Keeping it real.
Greetings of peace. Welcome to the Dean
Show. You hear the term Islam, radical
Islam, Muslim, terrorist. So I brought
someone who doesn't only look like a
Muslim, but he's a Muslim to answer this
question.
Nice to be with you. Walaykum. How are
you doing?
Alhamdulillah. I'm fine.
President from the
Yeah. Let let's get let's get right into
it. Have you termed this term is being
thrown around constantly rad see it took
this beautiful word subi is submission
to the will of the creator.
True
Islam summed up in one word Islam to
acquire peace by doing what Jesus did,
Moses did, Abraham and all the
messengers of God. Submit your will
entirely to the creator of the heavens
and earth and that's how you get peace
from the owner of peace with one word
Islam. Can you put radical in front of
Islam? It's very absurd to do that
because you already defined what is
Islam. Islam means peace or submitting
in peace. Now to say radical Islam is
like saying radical peace and that
sounds it's just very absent to use
those words.
Yeah. That so that's like saying radical
peace. How could it be radical peace?
Absolutely.
Yeah. So we take just the same way.
Would you say we don't say radical
Christianity?
Yes. Of course we shouldn't. No. I mean
to to put Christianity into the frame of
radicalism is not just
because Christians some of them even if
a majority of them do something wrong
suppose if 95% of Christians become
radicals still you cannot call it
radical Christianity because all the 95%
hypothetically can be wrong practicing
wrong Christianity. So I mean a religion
is to be judged by the scripture. A
religion is to be judged by the person
who introduced the scripture. So if I
want to understand Christianity, I would
look at Jesus Christ, may peace be upon
him, his life, his teachings. The same
way I would do with Moses, may peace be
upon him. And the same way it has to be
done with Prophet Muhammad, may peace be
upon him. And if someone is to quote out
of context, you can do it from
everywhere. You can do it from the
religious scholars, from the scripture,
you can do it from the constitutions of
the world, you can do it from the
leaders and their speeches when they
give it in interest of nationalism, for
national security. And you can just pick
up a statement out of context to say
that this guy is a radical, this guy is
an extremist, this guy is a terrorist.
And without a second thought, there may
be so many out of context quotes that
can be picked up to prove that Trump is
a terrorist. And I don't think that's
right to do. That's not right to do. Now
you you see this happening. You see such
a a beautiful way of life, you know,
this whole concept, this whole religion.
And I said, "Look, I I have someone who
not only looks like a Muslim, is a
Muslim." And how does a Muslim doesn't
necessarily look like Praise be to
Allah?
Praise be to God. Yeah. A Muslim is
simply one who submits to the will of
God. So he could be Chinese. You're
actually from where are you from?
I'm from India. Yeah. But not all
Muslims are from from India, right?
Yeah. Absolutely.
Yeah. Same thing. You're looking at
myself here. Um so we have um yourself
Muslim and I'm saying come to the
Muslims to learn about Islam. what
people are propagating. Some people,
there are a lot of great people out
there who see past this. They see past,
you know, this smokeokc screen, this
this um nonsense that's been put out
there. But what people are trying to
uh propagate some many of the haters
because Islamophobia is a quarter of a
million plus annual business. People are
making money throwing dirt on Islam. I
know. So what do you say when people are
saying no no no Islam is what actually
makes people turns people into you know
there's this there's this version of
Islam this part of Islam that makes
people radical what do you have to say
to that
basically uh Eddie if you have heard
about a report that was published in
times magazine that was in 16th April
1979 and the report it said that 60,000
books were written against Islam
And what was the time period? From the
time period 1800 to 1950.
So it's like beginning 19th century till
the mid of 20th century. Now if you just
calculate that it would mean 60,000
60,000 books. That would mean more than
one book was published against Islam per
day in that period of 150 years. And
where was it published? It was mostly
published in the western community. So
unfortunately the innocent people of the
western world the common population the
common citizen the lay man here when he
learned Islam he learned it through
these books. So now that Islamophobia is
a reaction to the dishonest propaganda
that was done through these books to
defame Islam, to malign Islam because
the think tanks of the time, these
literature writers, they knew that if
there can be any challenge to their
stupid behavior in the society, of
fooling the masses, enslaving them
economically
again bringing them back as their own
slaves to do what they wish to do of a
very unjust capitalist economy, the only
challenge could be Islam. So before
Islam could reach through scriptures,
before Muslims could represent Islam in
this beautiful world, they made sure
that the masses here are already
ignorant about Islam or have a wrong
judgment about Islam. And that is how
you find the Islamophobia growing here.
And that's not stopping. There are so
many other books still written.
Let's go to this clip. There's a
gentleman who's out there and he seems
to be like a self-proclaimed
scholar of Islam, an expert of Islam,
and we're going to see what you have to
say. Let's go to this clip.
I am not a Muslim. I'm not any religion
at all.
But it bothered me when you were talking
about Islam being not a religion of
peace. Um,
Muhammad was a very peaceful man.
No, he wasn't.
Yes, he Well, he and he had a great
respect for women.
His wives were um given a great deal of
power over him. And
have you been reading Karen Armstrong?
Is that where
No, I've read
he's not. He was a conquering warlord
who spread the faith with the sword
quite successfully. So, as you can see,
he's uh the woman who's she doesn't seem
like she belongs to any religion, but
she's saying that Prophet Muhammad was a
peaceful man. And then he questions what
did you listen to Karen Armstrong who's
an academic, you know, wellressearched
historian and there's there's a great uh
that's a great reference point also for
someone who wants to to know more of the
history. And it looks like she did her
homework. But then he talks about, you
know, uh, the prophet Muhammad peace be
upon him being a a warlord. And what how
would you respond to him?
See, basically, as far as this guy is
concerned, I'm very sure he has ever
tried to read the Quran or the history
of Islam from the right sources.
And I don't know I mean listening to him
it's nothing new that I'm listening
being in this field we have been
listening a lot of debaters a lot of
critics of Islam cynics of Islam a lot
of anti-Islamic politicians uh running
their show or running their business and
in our time the easiest way to become
popular is speak against Islam and
Muslims and you have the whole media
backing you for that
unfortunately the mainstream media not
the whole media because this itself
didn't is a media source. So I would not
blame whole media but still the
mainstream media generally backs the
person who speaks against Islam very
easily. So this guy is getting that
publicity that's what I feel and I'm
very sure he has not sat down properly
with real uh type Muslims that who
should counter him in the right
perspective and as far as prophet
Muhammad sallallahu alaihi wasallam
radicalizing or something is concerned
you know I mean the great people in the
line of Karen Armstrong in our
contemporary times you look at Bernard
Shaw you look at Gandhi who was our
freedom national hero
that's a good point Gandhi Gandhi G
yeah in the young India back In 1920 he
says that it's very absent to believe
that Islam was spread by sword. He
starts praising prophet Muhammad for his
characters for his morals. And he says
the way he had devoted his life towards
his people and his self-sacrifice his
striving towards his goal and his
mission without a compromise and the way
the people around him they devoted
themselves to him. So Sud Gandhi G he
says this was the main power of Islam
and not the sword at all. You look at
Thomas Carol in his book heroes and hero
worship. I mean these are historians who
have studied history. This guy I'm very
sure what history has he studied. Once
he says I'm an atheist somewhere he goes
on to support Jesus and now he's being a
bigotry. I mean on one side he's talking
about prophet Muhammad. He doesn't
understand that prophet Muhammad
sallallahu alaihi wasallam when he came
how many wars did he participate in? How
many people did he kill by his sword? He
doesn't even know that historically the
sword of Muhammad sallallam it killed
only one enemy. Can you imagine that?
How many was did he participate in? How
many people were killed? A lot of wars
that took place at the time of Prophet
Muhammad have a background to it.
Yeah.
And those backgrounds I'm very sure this
guy has never studied.
Talk talk real before we go to break. Uh
someone might say what do you mean just
one one? You you said that only one
person was killed by his sword.
Yes. elaborate on this.
I mean, see, if a battle is fought and
if he is a person who is too interested
to be violent and kill enemies, he
should have killed hundreds of them,
thousands of them.
But then you find that only one person
is killed through his sword. That means
he is not of our lord. But as Quran
testifies about prophet Muhammad, Allah
testifies in the Quran in surah amyia
surah number 217
we did not send you but as a mercy to
the entire universe and mercy is that
the people who are innocent should be
given mercy and forgiveness and the
people who are criminals shall be dealt
with justice. So now if some criminal is
being dealt with justice that is not
being of our lord. If American national
security is defended by attacking the
enemies of America, by going for war
with the enemies of America, you are not
going to call that Americans are
warlords. You're going to say they're
defending their national security. And
if it is done in the just cause, then
it's a just war.
Yeah.
So that is how the history of Islam goes
with Prophet Muhammad sallallam. His
wars were just wars. And look at the
teachings. You study polyology the
subject in which you study about wars
and you come to understand that there
are different categories of wars and all
the wars that the prophet sallallahu
alaihi wasallam fought were just wars.
Just wars.
Yes.
It wasn't like he was going picking on
people.
Absolutely not. Absolutely not. I mean
this is what the Karen Armstrong you
even that historian they testify Gandhi
that's interesting about Gandhi. We're
going to go to break but he after he was
finished reading the biography of Proph
Muhammad he was sad. He was he was it
why would he that's I mean for the
intellectual thinking about he was known
for his nonviolent protest why would he
be sad and why would he be talking about
some praising a violent warlord may
Allah forbid
doesn't make sense doesn't make sense
but we're making sense of it all through
truth cuz you're talking you're getting
to know the Muslims make the human
connection we'll be right back with more
God willing don't go anywhere and
another common thing is that it's
religion So this atheist who's out
there,
you mean Sam Harris,
the likes. Yeah. They forget about all
of the, you know, wars that were done,
you know, by
uh people who are supposed communist,
atheists, and you can talk about the
millions, massives of people who were
killed. But what do you say to this
question when people ask religions are
the start of all?
I'm very I'm very surprised that a lot
of educated people who are with good
academic background even they have this
misconception. They think that religion
is the main sole source for all the wars
in the world, for all the chaos in the
world. But as I told you, polymology is
the study about wars. Now when you study
that the top five wars in the name of
religion, they start the top the top of
the line. They say it's the war that was
fought in the Holy Roman Empire and that
was that is known in the world today as
the 30 years war between 1618
to 1638.
So this was the war they say which was a
30 years war and this was fought in the
name of religion. The second is the
French holy war. The third is the
crusades
and the fourth is the Sudani civil war.
The fifth is the Lebanese civil war. So
of the top wars according to the experts
studying wars they say in the name of
religion in the world these are the top
five wars. What do I mean by top five
wars? So they say based on the loss of
human lives these are the top five wars.
And the lowest estimate of the people
killed in these top five wars in the
name of religion in human history they
say it is 7 million. 7 million people
killed. That is the lowest estimate. And
the highest estimate is 20.7 million
people killed. I say man okay that's
fine. Five wars in the name of religion.
The topmost wars and how many people
according to you highest estimate is
20.7 million. Okay let's come to some
wars that were not fought in the name of
religion to begin with World War I. It
was not in the name of religion. Who
fought it? No Muslim involved there.
There is no jihad in it. There is no
Quran involved. There is no slogan
called Allah Akbar in World War I. How
many people killed? According to one
estimate, about 21 million people.
According to another estimate, it may be
more than 30 million people. What about
World War II? The number of human lives
lost in World War II are recorded in the
Guinness Book of World Record. How many?
50 million human lives. Innocent human
lives. This is minus the soldiers losing
their lives. Who fought it? Muslims? No.
No Muslim country was involved in it. No
Muslim country initiated it. There was
no sole interest of Islam or jihad in
it. What about the Russian civil war?
How many Jews were killed in it?
Millions of Jews. What about the program
which started in Russia in Kazakhstan? A
program is a term a Russian term used
when innocent Jews were killed in riots.
What about the Kellenshot city of
Germany where 91 Jews were killed? 7,000
synagogues were burned down. Can you
imagine that?
And who was burning them down? Who?
That is my question. The Muslims were
doing it. No, you people were doing it.
And they were not religious people. The
atheists. What about the French
Revolution?
So these were considered atheists. These
were secularists.
Absolutely. I mean, no religion.
What What about the French Revolution?
It was not in the name of religion. It
was against religion. I mean, so many
Christians were persecuted in it. So
many churches were pulled down. So many
cross signs were pulled down. It was a
crime to show a cross sign in France in
time.
So I'm saying all this was done by
atheists. How many people did you kill?
Not in the name of religion but in the
name of materialistic world. Albania
in Albania in Albania you find that this
country for the past about 100 years was
ruled by a communist regime and article
37 of Albania it says it's a country
that promotes atheism for a progressive
world. And we all know what happened in
Albania. How many innocent lives were
killed in Albania? But nobody talks
about it. This was not in the name of
religion. The war in Vietnam did not
happen in the name of religion.
Vietnam.
Yeah. It was not in the name of
religion, the Vietnam war. And what
about the war that took place when
Hiroshima and Nagasaki were born? Was it
religion involved? No. And what happened
in Iraq in 2003? We all know if you hear
the present Trump administration has
selected Michael Flynn as the national
security adviser for Mr. Trump and
Michael Flynn was the chief of Pentagon
for about 2 years and he was into
intelligence services in the army and on
a public interview platform he says he
admits it was a big blunder big blunder
invading Iraq in 2003. What about Nigen?
Nigen is the person who has interviewed
Saddam Hussein several times under US
army. He was a former CIA officer and he
has come up with his book now. He has
written a whole book and his discussions
with Saddam Hussein. He says it was a
very serious error.
I mean you attack a country, you destroy
a country, its population, you displace
the whole system existing there. You
kill millions of people there. I'm
asking did America do this in the name
of religion? Absolutely not. So this is
all not done in the name of religion. So
don't blame religion for all this stuff.
Religion very less. This is what
polymology study says.
You look at all these events and you'll
find that it were not Muslims involved.
It was not J. Neither was any other
religion involved. These were done by
those people who did not actually
support religion or believe in a
religion. That's the problem.
Yeah. What do you you mentioned Michael
Flynn who was appointed by uh the new uh
upcoming Yes. new upcoming president.
What do you think now with the new
President Donald Trump and this
individual who he appointed who is
quoted as saying
it's like cancer. I've gone through
cancer in my own life. Okay. So it's
like cancer.
Islam is a cancer. Yeah. I understand.
See basically why did this happen?
Because most of the time when you hear
these people they have some personal
experiences.
Flynn he very clearly says that he has
interviewed a lot of terrorists from
Taliban and al-Qaeda on this public uh
media platform there. When he was
interviewed on the public media
platform, he has been very honest to say
that he has done this. And when he was
again and again asked by the anchor, do
you believe that Islam is a radical
religion? Then he says it's it was in a
context to say that if the people who
are terrorists derive a teaching from
Islam, from the holy scripture, so in
that sense, Islam is radical. So I don't
blame Flynn for all this. But definitely
a person of his reputation, a person of
his caliber should not have spoken those
words. That's not very fair on his part
to do that. But then I always feel there
is some lacune in our community, the
Muslim community, our representatives,
they should have met him. They should
have spoken to him, discussed with him.
And as far as Trump is concerned, you
see, no man on earth can do you good or
harm you unless and until the almighty
God, Allah doesn't have will that it
happens to you. This is what Allah says
in surah Ali Imran surah number 3 ayat
number 160 Allah says let the believers
put complete trust in Allah. If Allah
wills to harm you there is none who can
prevent the harm from reaching you. If
Allah wants to benefit you there is none
who can stop the benefit from reaching
you. So the believers we put our trust
in almighty God Allah subhanaa tala and
that is what is the message on the
dollar the US dollar in God we trust.
And I'm very sure Trump he already said
in his public speeches that he is a
practicing Christian. He believes in
Christianity. So a person who believes
in Jesus Christ peace be upon him who is
the prince of peace will not absolutely
do anything which will harm innocent
lives as has been happening in the past
few decades. I'm very sure. Let's I have
a positive hope for him. And this I'm
not saying because I am in America right
now or because Trump has become the
president. My concept has always been if
there is somebody who is very
anti-Islamic in his propaganda
let's go to him let's talk to him and
now that he has become the president of
America as a Muslims believe we believe
that this is because Allah willed so
this is the will of Allah subhanaa tala
now if this is the will of Allah
subhanaa tala let the Muslims put all
the trust in Allah let us have good
hopes from Trump and trust me personally
I feel personally I feel that inshallah
by Allah's will Trump will not harm the
Muslim community but something good is
going to come out in the future
inshallah which was not happening
earlier and what Trump was speaking
either it was something a political
agenda to come into power or maybe he
did not have the proper information
about Islam in the right perspective
once he gets that through the right
people through the right sources the
things will change and I have good hope
in the American system for that
inshallah in the coming days
I think we should pray for Trump what do
you think
100% we should pray Allah subhanaa tala
the prophet sallallahu alaihi wasallam
prayed for Abu Jahal and Omar
and we shall also pray for Trump for
every non-Muslim we pray alhamdulillah
we pray Allah subhanaa tala guide them
to your chosen path
I would not say convert them to Islam I
would say oh Allah guide them to your
chosen path oh almighty god guide them
to the chosen p path and for me that
chosen path is Islam and I'm very sure I
really pray from my bottom of the heart
that oh Allah guide Trump to the chosen
path of Islam. The path that Jesus
followed. The path that Moses may peace
be upon him followed. The path that all
prophets since the time of Adam may
peace be upon him followed till Jesus
Christ may peace be upon him. And the
same path that prophet Muhammad came to
complete the teachings through the Quran
as Allah testifies in surah maida surah
number five number three.
On this day, we have completed for you
your religion, completed our favors upon
you, and chosen for you Islam, meaning
the way of peaceful submission as the
way that Allah will accept on day of
judgment. So, I truly pray for Trump for
that.
We're we're going to let me get one more
question in. And and that just shows
you, I mean, if if we're people of hate,
I mean, why all the love now? Because
when you want the best for someone,
look, you pray for him. So we our people
giving this great advice to the Muslims
to pray for this man that he does the
right things that he's just that he's
fair that God almighty guides him and
that's 100%
that out of the love. Now uh real quick
uh before we go we're out of time.
People see the Middle East and that's
where all the conflict you know is
happening and the Muslim majority
countries are upside down. They
attribute this you know that's why
Muslims are backward. It's Islam is
backward. It's violent. What would you
say? See basically uh Eddie to begin
with uh I wanted to add one more point
before I concluded the last part of the
answer. There is a very major
misconception that American population
has a majority of the atheists. That's
not true. The government system is not
an atheist government system. The very
statement on the dollar in God we trust
is an indication that the system itself
believes in a god. It is the duty of the
Muslims living in America to introduce
the true God to them. There is no god
but Allah. That is the message that we
need to introduce to them. We need to
introduce to them that Muhammad wasallam
is the messenger to humanity to entire
universe. Muhammad rasool Allah he is
the messenger not for me alone to the
Muslims alone but to mankind.
Now when you say Allah many people
they're like what Allah but then Jesus
say Allah. Isn't this something in the
Christian Christians and uh Jews who
Arabic speaking they would use the word
Allah? In Encyclopedia Britannica, it
says that the most convenient word that
the Jews and Christians who were Coptic
Jews and Christians, Arab Jews and
Christians used for Almighty God was
only Allah. They had no other option for
that.
Would this be like the Christian uh so
they can like understand better this is
like the uh the father like for we don't
say that but for them like you know they
have the father son the holy ghost. This
is the the the god. This is the almighty
the almighty. They would say the father.
The father. They would say that. Yeah.
In the time of Jesus Christ and Moses
may peace be upon him, the father was a
common term used by a lot of people to
refer to the almighty god. And it was
never in the literal sense. So in that
sense
we don't say it because it's been taken
as a little
absolutely Islam changed it to from aba
it became in.
So we say lord now our lord.
Our lord. Our lord.
Our lord. So from our father it became
in Arabic it is abana. Our father. So
Allah made it ra no more abana only
banana
because of all the confusion Jesus being
his literal son God having children
absolutely and do you know the Gallup
survey Gallup is a big survey
organization in the United States of
America the Gallup survey for 2016 it
says 81% Americans adhere to religion
one or the other religion 81% meaning
the people in America believe in
religion they are not atheists so it's a
wrong propaganda outside or a wrong
belief outside that there is a vast
majority of people who don't believe in
a religion that's that isn't true that
is what Gallup service is then coming to
the other point the Gallup made an
extensive survey in 32 Muslim countries
and it came out with a result that 93%
of the Muslims in these 32 Muslim
countries they condemned they rejected
9/11
and they condemned every form of suicide
bombing from Quran There is no way of
supporting suicide bombing. It is the
only religious scripture where Allah
says in surah nisa surah number 4 ayat
number 29 do not kill your own life with
your own hands. Meaning do not commit
suicide. No other religious scripture
has an equivalent statement. Allah says
you cannot commit suicide. So forget
suicide bombing. Every form of suicide
bombing in Islam is haram. And what is
referred as salafiest scholars of Saudi
Arabia. If you go to the top of the line
of the scholars, Sheh binbas who was the
grand muti for a very long time. You
talk about Nasiroin Albani. You talk
about usim Shehusin in Saudi Arabia. The
three topmost of the line they strongly
condemn suicide bombing. These three
scholars they have given fatwa on more
than 72 pages saying that usama bin
ladin and his likes are terrorists.
There is no way they have supported
this. When it comes to middle east
problems Robert pap when he was studying
Robert Pape has written a book by the
name dying to win.
He's an expert now an academic
terrorist.
He's an academic. He's a terrorist
expert especially in suicide bombing. He
has written a book the dying to win and
it's a central research book on suicide
bombing for agencies to study. He says
out of the 315 completed suicide
bombings from 1980 to 2005
more than 90% were committed
only against foreign occupation as the
reason.
So this is the root cause. Now what is
the root cause? He says the root cause
of suicide bombing. If you want to know
call it why these people are doing some
that Islam also conducts.
So the expert on suicide bombing says in
his study he has come across that more
than 90% of the suicide bombings were
committed not in the name of religion
but as a result of foreign occupation on
their territory on their country or on
their land. This is what he says. And
then he continues to say more than 50%
of the ter suicide bombings were not
committed by Muslims. They were
committed by non-Muslim groups like
LTTE, like the IRA, Irish Republican
Army, which is a strong Christian
background army, and the PK group of
Turkey, which is a socialist communist
group and not a religious group. These
are the three most committing suicide
bombings in the world.
The Tim Tigers, are they also a part of
this? Uh,
LT, of course. LT,
the Tigers, they are the ones. LTE.
Yeah. So,
they're a secular secular group. They're
a secular group.
PKK is a secular group. Absolutely.
Turkey, they all secular. And if you
find individually, you will find in LT a
lot of the people who say we are Hindus.
But I know Hinduism of course does not
promote violence in this form of suicide
bombing. Absolutely not.
Yeah.
So these people, they are not Muslims.
And this is what Robert P says. And the
other astonishing
uh thing that has been found out on
American soil by Gallup survey and other
surveys that by the FBI the report says
from since 911 till date the Muslims
were involved only in 6% of terrorist
attacks.
Mhm.
5% by the communists
6 7% by the Jews 43% and 24% by the
Latinos and the white supremist groups.
Yeah.
So where did the Muslims do it? Mhm.
Even on the American soil. So what's
happening in the Middle East? We all
know who started the problem from where
did it start? When it comes to ISIS,
ISIS, I think this is the first time
ever in the recent past. You saw all the
Muslim scholars from all Muslim groups
coming together unanimously condemning
ISIS saying they have nothing to do with
Islam and we have been very very vocal
about it. When you meet a non-Muslim on
the road, no, you should speak about it.
Where does he want us to speak? Put a
earphone in his on his ears and say look
ISIS is a terrorist or what do you
expect? We have been doing it. So many
scholars have done it on the mainstream
channels. They have done it. Nobody has
ever supported ISIS. ISIS is a bloody
terrorist organization. I said don't
call it an Islamic state. Call it an
insane state of Iraq and Syria. It has
nothing to do with Islam. It is an open
condemnation given to them. So the
problem there, how did it happen?
Michael Flynn again on the public
platform he admits he admits that ISIL
was not a creation by its own but it was
a result of some other thing. He there
are intelligence experts from CIA and
Pentagon who had earlier said that the
Abuhari prisons in Iraq they worked as
the university of terrorism.
It's not the Muslims saying this. So but
then why is it that people don't count
on this? We say America is popular in
the world for its justice system. People
love America and I have been to America.
This is my fifth visit to America. The
first time I came here, I was called by
the US State Department. I was
apprehensive to come to America. But
once I came here meeting the people
here, I always tell him in public talks,
I have never never met people more kind
than the American population. The
non-Muslim population of America, the
common population, they're lovely
people. The thing is we need to reach
out to them to give the right message
and they need to understand that Islam
is not a threat to them. There are
millions of Muslims living in America.
Out of the millions, how many may be
terrorists? Not even 100.
Not even 100. Can you imagine that
figure?
Potential terrorists. On the basis of
potential terrorists, you can't keep
arresting every innocent person. And the
conviction rate, if you look at the
conviction rate in the UK, only only 12%
of the people who are arrested for
terrorism charges were convicted.
Not more than 12%. Meaning, in other
words, 88% were left by the court. Their
cases were dismissed. There were no
charges on them of terrorism just
because they were not involved in it.
But what about they getting arrested and
being publicized as terrorists only
because you felt they were a terrorist.
So you made them a terrorist in other
words now.
Yeah. Well, we got a lot of things
cleared up. It's not the Islamic State.
It's the insane what did you say?
The insane state of Iraq.
Insane state. And we also uh quoted the
terrorist expert Dr. Pap. We talked
about if you want to know why these rat
these these terrorists are being
created, they're not being created by
Islam.
Absolutely. When you bomb people up from
40,000 ft up, 10,000 mi away, you kill
people in the weddings, they're hanging
out. What would you I mean, you you you
you're going to end up producing these
mad insane individuals. Again, Islam
condemns it. It's not condoned by Islam.
It's condemned. But we can see the root
cause.
The unfortunate part Eddie along with
this is that a lot of people have
started think Muslims because they are
afraid against the system. The system
might do something to them. Therefore,
they are condemning terrorism. I swear
by Allah.
I swear by Allah. The Muslims doesn't do
that. Maybe few people do that way. But
as a whole, this is the book we read.
How can we after reading a book which
says you cannot kill an innocent life
even think of killing innocent people?
After the Quran, the Muslims give first
preference to Sahib Bkari. The book
which has the compilation of the
teachings of Prophet Muhammad sallallahu
alaihi wasallam. You read Sahel Bkari
volume number 43 hadith number 314 to
316 and Sahim Muslim volume number five
hadith number 4547
and 4548
the prophet sallallahu alaihi wasallam
said in the battlefield you will not
touch women and children
is this terrorism is the statement of a
warlord the prophet sallallaihi wasallam
says in sahim Muslim volume number five
hadith number 4541 and 4542
narrated by Aisha May Allah be pleased
with her his beloved wife. She said, the
prophet sallallahu alaihi wasallam said
never wish to initiate a war. But if the
war is imposed upon you, then don't turn
your back. The prophet is saying don't
initiate a war. Is this the statement of
a warlord? No. I say man, you are
insane. You are a cynic. You're a critic
who needs some treatment, some
psychological treatment.
All right, that's it for this episode of
the Dean Show. Doesn't stop there. If
you still have some questions, call us 1
800662 Islam. Remember, we're here every
week for you trying to answer those
questions, those misconceptions.
Subscribe if you haven't already. I like
to thank you for being on the Dean Show.
Thank you so much.
Thank you, Jakad. And we started with
peace and we end with peace. Peace be
with you.
Asalamaikum.
This is the show.