did you serve together at all I know War
what's going on in Palestine right now
is not a war I think it's a fair fight
that's happening in Gaza at this time
what about my statement of saying that I
also cry for Palestinian children Rogan
have an impact at all uh on you that he
put up on Twitter that shows them drone
bombing those kids that are those men I
should say unarmed people that were
walking towards the rubble there's
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Forces no no no I'm not talking about
jono wilnick what do you feel about that
from a from a moral perspective as a for
of seal do you think it's a fair fight
what's happening there no no no I got
someone who actually jco will Inc if I'm
pronouncing that right can can learn
something from a man of Courage not just
that but a show of extraordinary
humanity and I want to go ahead and
introduce my guest and have him come out
let's take a look here who he is and I'm
excited to have him on my name is Alan
sharo um I was with third Special Forces
Group I was with the commanders and
extremist force with b23 I was a sniper
assaulter and a breacher I know War
what's going on in Palestine right now
is not a war it's not it is the
dehumanization it's the genocide it's
the ethnic cleansing of a specific
people to take their land this is not
war these are people that are defending
themselves I see this constantly where
people are just repeatedly dehumanizing
these people this is wrong and there's
nothing more American than than speak
out against what's wrong I can't tell
you how many times I've seen horrible
things and this takes it to an entirely
new level the US taxpayer is paying for
this which makes it even more
frustrating I'm paying for this I'm
seeing what's happening to this this
needs to stop whatever you can do
anything this needs to stop I love you
you're when I was ready to talk about it
I would only talk to I was explaining
how much respect I for the Fai of
ISL Sergeant Allen Professor how are you
excellent how you doing good good great
to have you on the program thank you for
having me so uh former special US forces
and uh usually people think of uh jao
wilnick am I pronouncing his name
right uh are you famili you're familiar
with him did you guys were you did you
serve together at all do you have any
history together have you guys um so the
only history prior to this last August
was
um uh I taught at at the origin Camp um
that he has every year and that's where
I got to meet him actually talk to him
and um the only other time was actually
at Gracie Nationals in
2001 uh we were both purple belts uh
competing in the same tournament
but we didn't talk at all or anything
right that so we're just kind of like
you know interweaving you know how
Jiu-Jitsu is yes you you just like we
were talking about earlier you know you
know everyone kind of knows each other
in one way or another so what I was uh
what was extraordinary is your Humanity
you know coming out and these three
points uh nothing more American at this
point and you know speaking out against
is what got you to the point that you
are actually speaking out
um honestly the uh so I initially I I
went to the city hall meeting to because
I was frustrated and just saw the um
veto um from the US for the third time
um shutting down that the ceasefire
resolution and I was really frustrated
um saw that there was a city hall
meeting coming up
and you know what these guys get paid
for it they're going to hear me vent um
I didn't know anyone to going in I
didn't know that there was other people
that were um speaking for that cause
until later and
uh it was strange because I didn't know
it was being
recorded a a friend of mine from Houston
um asked me if I spoke at City Hall and
I said yes and they found the video they
edited it and asked me you know do you
mind if we send it out I think it' be
really powerful and I was like sure I
don't I don't see how that would be I
was just literally venting and ranting
um
but it seemed to make a huge impact so
I'm glad and just going to keep pushing
forward with it and carry the momentum
as much as I can now Phill Us in okay
you talked a little bit about that now
when you were when we played the video
so you're a former US Special Forces
Sergeant tell us a little about your
history in in the uh Armed
Forces um so initially I enlisted in '95
um and then uh as a lightweight vehicle
mechanic I was stationed at Fort Hood in
Texas and that's that's originally how I
ended up in
Texas there wasn't anything going on uh
during that time frame in the 90s the
Somalia had been over uh Bosnia um and
Kosovo had been played out and was
everyone was coming back from that and
um I just discovered Jiu-Jitsu in 96
so um you I caught that that addiction
bug and as we both know at the the time
there was very few black belts in in the
US and the only black belt that was
actually in the state was Carlos Machado
so I ended up moving up to uh Dallas and
that's how I end up staying
here um in the meantime I was uh in the
reserves going to school um I reclassed
to uh field artillery and uh I was a
drill
sergeant and um did my trail time in U
Fort S in Oklahoma and uh after 911 I
didn't want to um to be on the sidelines
you know there was a fight that was
going in and you know my grandfather was
in World War II my my father was in in
the Air Force in the 70s and I felt that
was like the calling you know of my
generation
um so shortly after that I U listed U or
went back active
duty and uh went to selection I made
selection uh went through the Q
and then got recruited onto
b23 and did my time with b23 and got out
in 2010 from active duty 201 from 2010
2012 I was in Special Forces National
Guard and then I got out entirely in
2012 and you said here in the um talk
that you were giving there that this is
not a war what did you mean by
that so in any engagement um any type of
conflict there's we do have to abide by
the Roes The Rules of
Engagement and that's taken very
seriously um you don't Target civilians
you don't you
know
the the games I say games
and the horrific acts that uh are being
played out there are literally an
extermination there's it there's so many
things missing from their narrative you
know going in there without names and
then when they come out they got names
oh yeah this guy's a terrorist well how
do you target them you know there
there's so many things are off on this
and by the time they actually go in
there do the mission you know they're
like oh yeah we got you know 50 of these
um Hamas well did you go on there
looking for 50 you know do you have
verification can you that is there
anything that you can do to verify that
this person was a terrorist or you just
saying they're a terrorist and that's
what it that from the very beginning
it's been going on and it's just
continually um escalated from there so
they don't abide by any rules of engage
any type of international law um and to
say that they're the most moral Army I I
think is is an absolute
joke I mean so I mean you're former
special us Force is so now you're
looking at it from a different lens from
a different way that the normal person
so you're seeing things that most people
like you know some common sense is there
and people who um because there's a lot
of programming also that's another thing
you know the media and you know the
common narrative and whatnot so how long
did it take you to and and what SP spoke
your interest interest had you get more
interested that you even went further
because it's for some people it's like
they yeah they see it but they're like
I'm not I'm not going to speak out that
the gr courage that I talked about you
need some some some courage and and also
the courage of of speaking out uh
against the herd the the masses right uh
the the common U narrative you went up
above and beyond what got you to that
point
um not so proud to admit this but the um
what
the moment that everything became
unraveled for me was maybe a few days
after October 7th
um that there' had been things along the
way for the last you know 15 years or so
that kind of popped up kind of like that
doesn't sound right and that doesn't
feel right
we now I'll just you know shelf it but
the moment that I heard the words um
unprovoked um it made me and and it was
being excuse me it was being imp pared
by all the major
media and so they uh they were literally
just reporting the exact same thing over
and over again and never mentioning once
what had happened October 6th you know
or October 5th or October 4th or the
year prior the year prior to that
everything else and it was frustrating
to like if you're going to be a media
outet you have to give uh the most
accurate account of the situation POS
possible and it was literally just
one-sided
and regardless
of I knew that there was going to be
repercussions I I already knew that um
but it didn't matter it's it's the right
thing to do I wholeheartedly believe in
it and that's really all I
needed um
the the other thing that that came up
were just kind
of how should I put this the um the
things that I saw the things that I did
and that the questions that I have
really became highlighted um after
October you know looking back and seeing
like how the media has played this and
how they're layering it and the uh
different reports that are coming out
that they're giving it it sounded
just it was to me it's it just sounded
way too falsified they're just they're
not you know realistic um actions and
reports it just everything seemed off on
it
there I can't really put my finger on it
but anytime that well I can it was
just anytime that you have you know
people that are um using starving people
to lure them into an area where you can
create
a deadly situation where you have
starving people and I can't get this out
of my head but when you have starving
people that are literally just trying to
get food and you know this and in the
dark while everyone is literally
starving to get the supplies that
they've been waiting weeks for and then
you use that opportunity to create chaos
and create a situation so that you can
you know make where so you can actually
take out more people and I I truly
believe that is their ultimate goal if
you look at it from a perspective where
they're just trying to get rid of people
everything they're doing makes sense it
doesn't matter if you kill them if
they're um if they move on their own um
if they you know migrate somewhere else
voluntar or involuntary it doesn't
matter just get them out everything else
starts to make sense and if you just
look at that perspective then all pretty
much 90% of your questions that you have
about what's going on are answered
because it's a method a a a way and a
manner for them to eliminate them off
that
land now you mentioned the uh the Carlos
Machado from the Machado Brothers
anybody who's in the Jutsu knows who the
Machado legendary Machado family now I
had me thinking about okay Machado you
got Joe Rogan he's also uh connected his
his lineage is there right with John
jocks that's uh he's his student John um
Joe Rogan is John Jock's student uh did
Joe Rogan have any impact on you because
he's also started to um he had I
recently had Dave Smith on he's also
Jewish he's talking about this the
common narrative and what we're fed is
totally lies it's not true and he says
he's I'm quoting he says look I I'm
Jewish right and I would wish the
Israelis I wish right it be make my life
much more easier The Joe Rogan have an
impact at all uh on you I want to know
what was what she was fired for cuz was
it criticism of Israel was it I mean did
she show that Edward Snowden video that
he put up on Twitter that shows them
drone bombing those kids that are those
men I should say unarmed people that
were walking towards the rubble that
clearly weren't causing any danger to
anybody just bomb them yeah know it's
your duty it's just like for Biden or
whoever you like you're supposed to
cover up for them because the whole
thing is like they're always saying
they're only targeting Hamas and
everybody else is a casualty well if
those guys are just unarmed civilians
and they're walking alone that's what
they appear to be Dr in and you just
blast them from the sky with robots this
is the tragedy of War yeah this is
insane and no one knows what to think
now because if you can't talk about that
if you can't say that's real then you're
saying that genocide is okay as long as
we're doing it and that is what we're
saying and if you're saying that from a
perspective of someone who literally
went through the Holocaust or your your
people your tribe went through the
Holocaust and now you're willing
to do it I hope the iron is not lost on
you it's so nuts it's so hard to imagine
that someone where a c a culture like a
country was like officially founded in
what 47 48 48 okay officially founded so
that's so recent and you and you guys
are willing to do what was done to you
that led you to believe that you needed
to start your own country you're willing
to do that at least in a small scale in
Gaza like there's nothing left if you
see the video and have you met Joe Rogan
since you guys have the same teacher um
so uh I got my black belt from Carlos
and we split ways after 13 years and
I've been ranked under Chris howder who
got his blacke belt from hegen Machado
so I know I know yeah he I know hegan
yes yeah so um Chris howder um one of
the dirty dozen got his black belt from
him and then um I've been ranked I've
been under him for better part of a
decade I gota so uh I'm I'm gonna go
ahead and um play this next click I want
to get this uh reaction from you in the
hopes of hopefully his Humanity can come
on I've read one of uh his books and he
uses the term uh this is jao Warriors
and warriors translating into people of
Integrity good character and whatnot and
this is really the time now we're seeing
a modern day genocide in 4k there's a
slogan never again but now everyone's
quiet silent uh except for people like
yourself so I want to get your reaction
to this and when you look at the
situation with Israel and their war with
Hamas and in particular the the
collateral damage of so many civilians
particularly children getting killed in
in the process of trying to eliminate
Hamas what do you feel about that from a
from a moral perspective as a former
seal do you think it's a fair fight
what's happening
there do I think it's a fair fight
that's happening in Gaza at this
time you know I saw I saw a video clip
the other day Pierce of some Israeli
soldiers that were moving down the
street Street in Gaza and as I was
watching them move down the street
I remember that that feeling I told you
you get in your gut of that
gut-wrenching horrible feeling when
someone's going to get wounded or killed
yeah as I was watching these Israeli
soldiers moved down the street I I got
that feeling what do you think the
question was this a fair fight how would
you have answered that and um what's
your reaction no it's not a fair fight
it's um
I I don't know how it I'd love to talk
about him I I do respect a lot of what
he says um I I got to meet him talk to
him this last summer I do also that that
that's why I you know I'm hoping that um
he sees this and he can connect with
someone like you and and he he can have
a a a shift in um and come out and start
speaking
out and that's the thing
um and I I understand his perspective
and I understand what he's saying um but
the larger context is is what's missing
you have a military occupation that you
cannot deny I mean if you this is an
apartheid state if you have different
roads that certain people can can drive
on and certain people cannot this is
part of apartheid that you were I don't
know ashamed of 90% of the job you had
to do here what was LE n
90% this I was in a patrol that
orted the engineers who sealed up the
doors of these families here so they
cannot go out to the street because the
Shu dri the road where we are now is a
sterile
Road Palestinians cannot step a foot
here and palan families who live on this
road their front door is welded shut and
for them getting in and out of the house
is climbing in the roof taking a ladder
and a backway into the old
city but this is Palestine Palestinian
territory yeah this is occupied
territories yeah even the most
right-wing government in Israel's
history which is the current government
never annexed Eon yeah under military
rule from 1967 to today more than my
lifetime Palestinians are no say um if
you have um different laws if you have I
mean the people in Gaza I mean for the
last couple of decades they've had bans
on everything from uh cilantro to potato
chips wedding dresses fishing poles I
mean all these different things how can
you not see that as like an occupied
State um you have the continuation of
settlers that are they're pushing
through you know trying to colonize
these are legal settlement that there is
no argument that they are legal
settlements bottom line and these are
the things that are that are not taken
out of context or excuse me that are
taken out of context when they're just
trying to give their narrative right
they're just showing yeah the Israeli
soldiers that are walking down something
bad's going to happen if you reverse
roles right you'd see it not as a bad
thing about to happen but a good thing
happening for the resistance right so a
lot of it is different you know having
to understand the perspective of it and
again my biggest thing is no innocent
civilians bottom line that that is that
is where I draw the line absolutely not
do I you know I don't agree with what
happened on October 7th because it
involves innocent
civilians um I also don't condem you
know condone what's been going on for
the 30,000 you know or was it up to now
like 36,000 you know 38,000 that have
been killed and it's not just the
proportionality but it's the intent of
what they're trying to do it it matches
up exactly for the last 75 years what
they've been attempting to do and that
is to literally to exterminate as many
Palestinians as possible so they can
just take their land resources anything
that you know that that's there you know
for the the canal the borian canal the U
the natural reserve gas excuse me the
national gas reserves uh off the coast
and on the land if you look at it from
that perspective it's very difficult you
know to see anything other than an
occupier that's oppressing uh the
population how do you think some of the
Special Forces some of the people in
your unit jao's unit jao himself his
unit and if they had to deal with some
people coming over here and they were
like you know our country all right and
they were like hey my great
great-grandfather uh he said uh this
used to be ours God gave us this land
how do you think that would be uh the
the reception of that would be
taken and this is one thing that's a
talking point that I that I do bring up
a lot when I'm having these
conversations with people that that
don't have the same mentality as I do MH
and when you
have if you if you just reversed the
roles the Mexicans crossed over the
Border they said This is Our Land This
Texas belongs to us there's an argument
to be made there right there is an
argument to be made and they use those
as their justifying rights to you know
attack Texas and then they separate
right and they have you know Austin or
Dallas in one and Houston in another and
it constantly gets smaller and smaller
and everyone else you they being killed
there's no there's no justice whatsoever
they I got evicted from my home they
killed my sister they killed my my uncle
um they they tortured and detained my
you know my younger brother I mean all
these things have to be you know
contextualized to understand what's
actually going on you know and if you
just reverse that same situation I have
yet to meet someone that honestly is
responding is responding in an honest
manner that would say no I would fight
back every single one of them is saying
yeah I would fight back then why aren't
you seeing this but but but but Hamas
but Terror but it's the same narrative
but you literally just agreed that this
is an occupied State this is you know a
clear occupation and apartheid and that
you would fight back so why can't you
see that and it's for some reason there
is the connection that I have the most
most trouble like you know for them to
see and I understand it's difficult
because you're getting all these
different um reports you know media mass
media that's funneling you know all
these different these narratives the
same narrative over and over again on
how you know oh well if Hamas lays down
their arms um there would be peace if
the Israelis lay down the arms they
would get
slaughtered if we don't have any more
slave rebellions here in the United
States because we don't have any humans
that are enslaved so there's no
resistance to be made that's the reason
we don't have SL you know slave
rebellions anymore there aren't anymore
slave there aren't slaves period so if
you look at that in the same context
what would get rid of Hamas it's the
resistance that that ideology because
you
can yeah absolutely I agree that you can
actually get rid of Hamas but something
will take over right away it's the
ideology of resistance that will never
be defeated military wise and we we have
this in in so many instances in history
and this is the biggest thing that I
find upsetting is that we we have to
learn from history so it's
repeated and it's repeating itself we're
seeing it happen you know
and we're and I see so many people
standing by this is what I feel is wrong
this is where I feel like you know
regardless of you know what the
ramifications will be I need to do the
right thing and the right thing right
now is defending you know the
Palestinians and what's going on right
now and and bringing my voice to as as
far reach as possible to make that be
known I wonder want to get you a
reaction to one more video um and this
is really important because all human
life is precious I like what you're
saying innocent life this all human life
is precious but it it it just seems like
the Palestinian life here it doesn't
seem like some people are taking it as
precious it's like um uh that's that's
the really crazy thing so I want to go
and this is somebody canace Owens who
recently got fired and she started also
speaking out I am uncomfortable with the
amount of innocent life that is lost
right now in
God and let's have a look at this and
this is one of the things you clearly do
not understand the same way most don't
are anti-em you don't get it I cry for
what's going on in Israel I cry just as
much for what we are forced to
do golden Meer had a great
quote she said that one day we may be
able to forgive them for killing Israeli
children we will never never be able to
forgive them for making them making us
kill their
children about my statement of saying
that I also cry for Palestinian children
is wrong to you if you also admit it is
sad when Palestinian children die it's
painful but it is not in any way shape
or form morally equivalent to October
it's mindblowing I don't what your
what's your reaction to that I I think
uh a buddy of mine that I was talking to
a couple weeks ago put it
best
and so he was comparing that to a
domestic call yeah
and when you put in that context I I
couldn't I mean it's not funny I get it
but the analogy was was got me chuckling
that it just
using the you
know I'm sorry this is not funny it's
not funny in both situations but I mean
it it is as ridiculous um you know cop
walks in and both in the kitchen the
woman's beat up and and the guy's
constantly well she made me do it I I
didn't want to beat her but she made me
do
it how can you I mean it's the same
thing he's saying pretty much yeah and I
don't that's the thing I don't
understand is is
there oh it's hamasat make it no you're
doing it bottom line I don't care what
you say what what your context is you're
doing it that's the bottom line you're
doing it there is no like oh he made me
do it no you're doing it um if T if if
Hamas built tunnels under Tel Aviv and
the exact same scenario they they they
took hostages and they were hiding in
tunnels in in a uh intricate tunnel
system under Tel Aviv not a person in
the right mind would say that would bomb
Tel Aviv and do the same thing to Gaza
they wouldn't flatten it right they
would do surgical you know entries the
whole thing that the first questions
that came out well after October 7th you
know they kept saying hostages we
hostages hostages hostages especially
after like a couple of months it just
start becoming like so old and
repetitive and if they knew where the
the hostages were why aren't they
getting them if they don't know where
they are I'm telling you I I don't have
you
know an entire career in SF I haven't
been there for 20 30 years but I was in
a hostage Rescue
Unit bombing the area where your
hostages are at probably isn't the best
idea I'm just saying you know it so if
it is the hostages that you're concerned
about and another thing is shooting them
probably isn't the best idea either
you're trying to get them alive back you
know shooting them when they're
surrendering and waving White flags and
speaking to you in
Hebrew you've seen that also yeah it's
very sad I want to thank you again thank
you for your Humanity thank you for
speaking out God bless you thank you
thanks
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