the alhamdulillah peace be with you we
have another incredible story so many
people are coming to this beautiful way
of life this way of life that provides
peace happiness purpose you know what
your purpose in life is when you're
living this way of life because it
provides all the rational logical
evidences the proofs it's not something
this you jump into on blind belief and
Faith it provides everything you need to
test it to make sure that it is indeed
not man-made but from the Creator and
our next guest he tested it he verified
it and he said you know what there's no
other way except this way and he used to
be a Christian went to the nation and he
came to the way of life of all the
messengers of God Islam that complete
and total submission only to the Creator
not worshiping anyone else but the one
who created creation that's Islam we'll
be right back with his story here on the
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the peace be with you how are you
hamdulillah alhamdulillah I'm very happy
to have you on the show I I actually
interviewed your brother right uh Imam
kasim Khan yes yes and people can go to
the dean show to watch that it was a
show we did uh did Snoop Doggy Dog come
to Real Islam okay and you got to watch
that show to see to hear the answer so
that's at the Deans show.com website
mumc you're his uh
younger brother right yes yes so uh how
are you alhamdulillah alhamdulillah
Allah is merciful yeah now let's start
off look you you said some Arabic words
we said assalam alaykum I Define that it
means peace be with you are the the main
people that we want to reach out to is
the not yet Muslims our our brothers in
humanity because you know we want to
share this beautiful message with the
world because we care about people don't
we right yeah so uh you mentioned Allah
just before we start off is this what
does Allah mean Allah means the God
Allah is the one the Creator the one who
creates everything the one who is in
control of everything and the one whom
everything returns to you know the one
whom uh uh is the decider of all of the
Affairs of all of the people who he
created on this Earth You know he's the
Supreme Being the one that some people
call God some people say Lord but we
Anda tell all of those attributes by
saying Allah you know so they cuss is
Jesus God no Jesus is not not God who is
Jesus Jesus is one of the prophets of
Allah subhana wa ta'ala is uh what's his
name uh farad Muhammad is he God some
people say that he's God incarnate yeah
they they made a mistake he's not he's
not God he's not the Creator he's not
the Supreme Being you know at all it's
Allah subhana wa ta'ala the one who uh
created everything including those ones
whom they attribute to saying that is uh
he's God don't Jews and Christians who
are arabic speaking they also use the
word Allah correct yeah they do now you
investigated that you didn't just jump
into Islam you were from a Christian
background is that right correct tell us
a little bit about your story well um
the story was that uh I first uh came
into the Nation of Islam at one point
and Allah subhana wa tala blessed me to
start uh practicing uh uh Islam based on
the Quran and the Sunnah and that's a
short story you know hopefully by the
grace of Allah subhana wa tala that
Allah forgives me for all of the
misgivings that I had prior to the
information that uh he blessed me with
and now we utilize the information that
Allah subhana wa T blessed us with in
order to try to help uh to be pleasing
to Allah subhana wa T and live the type
of life that Allah created us to live
inshallah but before the nation you're
just like your brother you were a
Christian right we were a Christian came
up in a Christian household uh Baptist
Methodist um Jehovah Witness were you a
Jehovah Witness Jehovah Witness as well
was were your First Baptist or Jehovah
Baptist okay what Baptist uh going to
the church with my grandfather with my
mother um you know with my father you
know he didn't go that often but you
know and then uh you know alhamdulillah
Allah blessed us to uh to accept what we
thought was Islam anyway was back in the
Nation of Islam uh and then uh Allah
subhana T blessed us to progress and to
start practicing based on the
and the sunah of the Prophet peace be
upon him so you went from the Baptist
Christian what had you leave the Baptist
Christian denomination to go to the
Jehovah Witness uh just the my mother
yeah you know she was the one in charge
so we went where my mother wanted us to
go so you weren't really were you
reflecting were you just like okay I'm
just following my parents no we were
there you were there we were there but
at what point because we have to as
human beings make a conscious decision
is this the truth or is it not is it
based on evidence or is this just
something I'm following along blending
in on Sundays you know were you singing
in the choir no no as a matter of fact I
did as a matter of fact you know but you
know at some point you know as you grow
a little bit older you get to the point
where you start making your own
decisions some point you know you go
based on what your parents say and what
they direct you to and then as you get a
little bit older and you start utilizing
the faculties that Allah subh bless you
with you start making decisions for
yourself and you know by traveling and
moving around you you know and hearing
and and uh being able to read a little
bit and witnessing things then uh I
became uh familiar with a few Muslims
that uh gave me a little information and
uh my father uh was getting that
information at the same time and he kind
of pulled the trigger in the beginning
and became Muslim you know back at the
nation time and uh then he came in and
asked me about it and I visited and I
accept it and then over a period of time
over a period of a few years then uh
both of us started doing more study and
we decided that what was best for us was
to practice the dean or practice Islam
based on what Allah subhana wa T said in
Quran and the sunah of the Prophet peace
be upon him now what about Jesus being
Lord savior dying for your sins well you
know that's that's another whole uh you
know whole show but you know I didn't
ever believe that in the beginning but
again it was something that you know was
given to us you know as far as the
parents you know this is what we study
this is what we follow this is what we
uh look to and uh because we didn't have
any choice at that particular time but
now so but have you had these uh talks
with other Christians now that you you
ended up uh leaving the religion of your
your your parents or actually your
father accepted Islam but you left what
you were upon as a child really not
really thinking too much did you think a
lot of it like okay okay this is
supposed to be salvation for me if I
don't believe that Jesus died for my
sins a person will tell you're going to
the Hellfire believe it or not I didn't
think about it like that you know for
myself I didn't think about it like that
once I started thinking for myself and
and uh investigating for myself I made a
conscious decision to uh to study more
about Islam proper you know based on the
the the Quan and the Sunnah
alhamdulillah it's been good for me you
know because uh since then and after
accepting Islam proper I've been doing
daah you know in the institutions you
know Department of Corrections back in
Georgia Pennsylvania Virginia and so
forth and you know with the help of
Allah subhana wa tala did at least no
less than between 800 and about 1,200
shahada so these are questions that you
get asked a lot so someone says look my
parents they taught me that Jesus died
for my sins that he's God he's one and
three in the Trinity how do you tackle
this question well you know uh pretty
much I mean we you know we do just the
minimum yeah on that you know because
you know I think about a story you know
very briefly that um one
day was giving some of the he was
reading some information
toam and he was telling it was some of
the Christian doctrine and then alh
wasallam got upset and he told him he
said isn't it enough that I gave you or
that I gave you the information that
Allah subhana T blessed me with why
would you spend time with that you know
what I mean so you know we don't spend a
lot of time with it the way that I do
the dawa we don't spend a lot of time
with it and uh you know we just thank
Allah subhana wa tala that he blessed us
to have you know strong Iman enough you
know to we feel comfortable that we
don't have to rely to go back on those
particular things and those particular
questions and a lot of the uh
informations that we had studied and we
lived before you know we just give it as
needed you know so we don't go back we
don't study the Bible and go into it and
then recite different uh passages from
the Bible and so forth because the Quran
itself you know is enough what is better
than the word of Allah subhana wa ta'ala
given based on what he said or what he
uh gave far as the Revelation you know
to all of the people his companions and
the people that came after him all the
way down to us today we're going to take
a break and we're going to continue on
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back here on the dean show with shik
todic yes and we talking about your
story people get a little bit familiar
with you we talked about you giving or
helping people come to this way of life
the way of life that brings peace
contentment happiness is the fastest
growing way of life Islam submission to
only the Creator and you didn't want to
worship the creation we love Jesus is
there something now that you know when
you're doing the daah that what do you
tell people your relationship with Jesus
is now well I mean I respect him as one
of the prophets of Allah subhana wa tala
you know just like I I
um I'm I'm excited about the fact that
that I worshiped the Creator the one who
uh gave each one of them the Revelation
or Revelation uh but I don't look to him
as the one that I follow I look to the
last the last uh Prophet uh peace be
upon him uh Prophet Muhammad sallallahu
alaihi wasallam I Look to Him and uh you
know we always find out you know
somebody always tells us follow the last
instruction you know if you have a job
you have people working for you you know
somebody comes and gives you some
information you know and then you come
over there and tell them something and
then they say well somebody else told me
this and you always tell them follow the
last instruction yeah so the last
prophet peace be upon Him Prophet
Muhammad sallah alhi wasallam you know
is the one that we need to follow so we
just made that transition in order to uh
uh do the things that's going to bring
us closer to Allah subhana wa tala
Nation comes into the picture now you
went from Baptist to Jehovah and now you
jump into the Nation of Islam how why
did you end up leaving the nation and
coming to this way of life now the true
Islam well because it was true because
it was true because it was true there
was no information that you know needed
to be um uh uh dealt with you know other
than the fact that when Allah subhana wa
ta'ala touches your heart and uh gives
you the desire and the motivation you
know to follow uh correct Islam Quran
and the Sunnah there's nothing else for
you to stay you know and witness you
know because whenever Allah subh gives
you something that is good then you
always accept it and the prophet peace
be upon him said that when Allah wants
to do something good for a person he
merely blesses them with the
understanding of the dean
understanding of Islam and when Allah
subhana put it in my heart to accept it
and then try to live it and practice it
at the same time then alhamdulillah you
know there was no reason for me to stay
in the uh in the nation you know there
was no interest of mine to be you know
to stay back and try to you know uh
fluctuate and go back and forth it just
came into it wholeheartedly and it was a
blessing from Allah subhana wa tala and
it's still a blessing right now it's
like when you know the pure monoth is M
what this way of life from the Creator
teaches only worshiping the Creator now
you went from again Christianity
worshiping the creation Jesus who we
love rever as one of the mightiest
messengers of God we love him but as he
should be loved as a messenger not God
and then Master fraud Muhammad in the
nation again being Allah then making him
into a man to not worshiping anything
creation but only worshiping the Creator
was that something now when you explain
to people that just makes good all
common sense doesn't it yeah I mean it
does but you know to be honest with you
sh I I really don't get involved in that
at all because you know my focus has
been trying to strengthen the families
families you know the main reason why uh
you know I wake up in the morning for
the sake of Allah subhana wa tala you
know is to try to strengthen the um you
know and the only way that you can
strengthen the um is if you strengthen
the families you know because the um
itself makes up families your family my
family you know his family their family
you know and whenever you have strong
families with good understanding of what
is pleasing to Allah subhana wa T and
they work towards that then the um
itself is going to be strong but if
everybody is not strong in their family
and have a lot of issues and they have a
lot of misconceptions about this Dean
about uh life in general what Allah
subhana wa T has created for them and
the system of life you know then we're
going to have issues yeah so but
whenever we uh educate oursel you know
because that's the two major problems
that we have as far as uh trying to
educate the rest of the community and
strengthen them the um two major part uh
uh uh problems that we have is number
one the lack of information and
education of Islam and what Allah
subhana wa T has created for us and also
people don't fear Allah subhana wa tala
you know what I mean they do anything
because they don't have that desire to
please Allah they really don't believe
in Allah subhana wa tala the way that
they say that they believe because if
they knew what Allah subhana wa tala had
um uh obligated us you know Ed ation
wise as far as you know what it takes
for them to be pleasing to Allah they
would always do the right thing and if
they fear doing anything that's going to
displease Allah subhana wa tala they
would always seek more knowledge and
wisdom and understanding that's going to
help them to be able to raise thems up
and their family and then once their
self and their family is raised up then
they help to uh to deal with the
community as well it's like you know we
flew in yesterday and alhamdulillah you
know when we got on the plane the first
thing that the people said on the plane
is in the event that the cabin loses
pressure then the oxygen will come down
when the oxygen comes down said even if
you're responsible for children or
somebody else they say put the oxygen on
yourself first because what happens if
you lose oxygen you don't have enough
oxygen you become disorientated and then
you can't help yourself or the other
person so it says put it on yourself
first and likewise with us we have to
educate ourself on what is necessary for
us in this life you know in this family
in this community you know we have to
deal with it by ourself first you know
with the help of Allah subhana wa tala
and then give it to our family or you
who believe save yourself and your
family from the torment of the fire you
know so it's our responsibility to
educate ourself to get the education if
we don't know how to get the education
then go somewhere and find somebody that
has the ability to articulate the
information that is going to help you to
be a better servant of Allah subhana wa
taala therefore living the life that
Allah subhana wa tala created you to
live
you know and that's our major objective
and helping families we saved over a
thousand you know families from divorce
you know even some that had already
divorced you know they've already come
back you know some of them have come
back and uh uh and got remarried again
because they realized that they didn't
have the right tools or education in
order to be uh uh a beneficial uh person
in the relationship of marriage and then
whenever you have the marriages that are
strong and tight you know and they have
the love of Allah subhana wa taala and
they fear Allah subhana wa taala and
they have a hope that Allah will
facilitate their life then alhamdulillah
then you have a wonderful strong um
that's going to be pleasing to
Allah therefore warranting the blessings
that Allah is capable of giving them so
this is now what you do now this is your
passion this is what you are fully
involved in is
helping helping the CES counseling
marriage counsel marriages helping
marriages uh helping uh Muslims with
Muslims arbitration helping those
individuals who have teenagers that uh
they don't understand what they need to
do in order to keep them around Islam
people make a lot of mistakes because
they don't have the right understanding
they don't know how to facilitate uh the
growth in their own uh families you know
what is so tell us with your experience
what is one of the number one number two
three reasons that the families are
broken up is it that husband and wife
are not spending enough time together is
it that there's no order it's chaos
because what reasons it's it's it's
bigger than that because if people don't
really understand what their role is as
uh as a Muslim uh mate we got roles
everybody has roles you know and
everybody has rights inside of those
roles so the husband has certain rights
and certain responsibilities the wife
has certain rights and certain
responsibilities the children themselves
have certain rights and responsibilities
and the parents themselves have rights
and responsibilities and moreover Allah
subhana wa tala has rights over all of
us that we fulfill Our obligation inside
of the institution that's created by Him
A Divine institution that's created by
Him and overseen by him so we have to
find out you know what is our
responsibility in the institution of
marriage and family you know exactly
what am I supposed to do we we get
together and we get married married and
we say okay I'm going to bring you home
the the the money and you're going to
cook rice and you're going to do this
you're going to do that you know what I
mean but they don't really understand
what Allah subhana wa tala sees uh as
our responsibility what are what is your
wife's rights and are you fulfilling
those what are your husband the
husband's rights and is she fulfilling
those and what is the rights of Allah
subhana wa tala this is all part of
marriage in Islam you know it's not just
us coming together having a good wi Lima
you know what I mean and everybody
chicken and and kill to you know kill uh
uh sheep slaugh the Sheep Slaughter the
Sheep you know what I mean and everybody
comes in and talks and laughs and then
go on about our business no it's a
responsibility you know to Allah subhana
wa tala first and foremost and if we
don't do that then we're going to be
standing waiting to try to cross the
Sarat at some point and Allah subhana T
is going to hold us there because of we
did not fulfill Our obligation the way
that he had injected it in to the instit
tion of marriage we're going to take a
break and we right back with more here
with Imam todic on the de show no
problem you can take my daughter to
dinner you and my daughter and
me let me tell you something it's
natural that's the idea God created it
and he created us to have a good time we
should have a good time only with our
wives though Islam is the fastest
growing religion in the world and most
of the converts are women not men they
see that the rules of Islam instead of
constraining them the rules set them
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alone back here on the dean show with
Imam ttic you know time is short yes and
these shows are really short and we just
want to kind of give people motivation
to continue to research to continue to
get convinced that this is the way of
life that paradise is true there's
something Beyond this life Hellfire is a
reality day of judgment all of this what
you've done in this life you'll be
accountable for and the Muslim family
you know if you got good families you
have a good Society so give us some
tangible things that you know those who
are married who are going to be raising
the future Nation tomorrow you know that
they can do so they can produce good
children who are doing good in community
so we they can be successful in this
life and the next well first of all we
we encourage everyone to seek more
understanding regarding the in
institution of marriage you know we pray
five times a day and we're obligated to
pray five times a day but prayer is not
considered half of your Dean how about
once a week during Juma just or Ramadan
does that count not that no no no but
I'm busy working sh the guy said look he
says look I I got a job Allah is more
important okay Allah is more important
so we pray five times a day five but
it's not considered half of the de we
give zakat and we're obligated to give
zakat but it's not considered half of
the dean we go to Hajj one time you know
in our lifetime if we can if we're able
but it's not considered half of the dean
but marriage itself is considered half
of your religion and we have to
understand that it's one of the biggest
institutions of Allah subhana wa taala
so there's more to it than just a man
and a woman getting together you like
way she looks you like the way that he
looks and so forth we get together we
have two three children you know and so
forth like that we run a business or we
have a job it's bigger than that it's
trying to please Allah subhana wa tala
and whenever we sit down with in
indviduals when doing counseling
incidentally we have one Counseling
Center in Atlanta Georgia over in
Jonesboro and we also just opened up a
new Center in Houston Texas area
alhamdulillah you know but we always
tell people in the very beginning we ask
them number one do you have a love for
Allah subh T and pretty much every
Muslim is not going to say that they
don't you know then we ask them do you
fear doing anything that's going to be
displeasing to Allah subhana wa tala and
pretty much every Muslim says they fear
Allah subhana
and do you have a hope that Allah subh
wa T will facilitate your life that will
be present in your life and help you uh
be successful in this life based on what
Allah deems is success and they say yes
then alhamdulillah then you're obligated
to live in a certain way you're
obligated to fulfill your obligation to
Allah subhana wa tala by being good to
your wife by being good to your husband
by being good to your children and
educating them by being good and and uh
uh making sure that your parents you
know are safe and they're and they're uh
appreciate appreciated and making sure
that you have an understanding of Islam
and what Allah subhana wa tala has given
you as a responsibility to be able to
live in this life and be able to earn
Jenna a lot of us are falling short
because of the not because of the
intentions because there's a lot of
people have good intentions but there
are people in Hellfire that have good
intentions so we have to make sure that
we understand and educate oursel on what
our responsibility is even in the
institution because this is one of the
quickest ways that you could get to
Jenna is in your marriage and fulfilling
all of the rights of your wife of your
husband of your children of the parents
and of Allah subhana wa tala and also
one of the quickest ways for you to get
to Hellfire based on you not fulfilling
your obligation to those individuals in
your family whether husband or wife or
children or parents you know and most
assuredly Allah subhana wa taal because
of the fact Allah is the one who created
the Divine institution of marriage and
we obligated to go in accordance with
what Allah subhana wa T created
inshallah I hope that you know what you
you you do this now full-time yes and if
people now need some counseling correct
how can they get a hold of you they get
a hold to us uh at the office in Atlanta
Georgia we have opened up a brand new
office H everything is private and
confidential and uh they can call uh
2815 29
6272 to get any kind of information uh
regarding uh is uh Islamic counseling or
also they can go to our website Islamic
counseling.org and they can find the
information all of the telephone numbers
are there I'm to the they'll be able to
read and find out about what we do and
how we do it and how long we've been in
uh in business to helping the Muslim
families and so for keeping the families
together keeping the families together
there's nothing there's nothing better
there's a
you know he said he asked some of his
companions he said shall I tell you what
is better than Salat and fasting and
they said yeah what could be better than
Salat and fasting said bringing people
together yeah arbitration helping them
solve their issues what better issues
can you fight against Shayan with by
bringing families together and holding
them solid therefore Allah subhana wa
tal will bless the um because is
blessing the families and the
individuals alh you so much for being
with us alhamdulillah all right we'll
see you soon inah we appreciate you uh
for having me here inshallah and may
Allah reward you for the the work that
you're doing that's going all over the
place thank you so much alhamdulillah
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the ability the faculties to realize hey
you know what I'm not going to worship
the creation I'm going to worship the
Creator I'm going to humbly submit to
all the commands the wonderful things
that the creator has told me to do and
he's got a wonderful reward for me
something that you cannot imagine
something that's far better than
anything that you can have in this life
paradise and I'm going to work hard to
do good to be good and to avoid the
Hellfire God is the most loving the most
merciful and he has sent guidance
throughout all the messengers the last
and final mess of prophet Muhammad he
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