all right this leades a this leades a a
pretty organized day for us tomorrow
tomorrow basically we're going to talk
about all you know ways of refuting
arguments ways of explaining Concepts
ways of convincing people and then we're
going to work on the questions and we'll
do some reenactments you know generally
you know it's it's not permissible for
one Muslim to play the role of a CAF
okay it's not permissible at all even as
a joke even as acting to say you know
I'm a c you can't that's why a lot of
times people come to me after the
workshop you should have had one brother
pretend to be a CF no no no no no you
know it's the one thing that's more
hated to us than anything on Earth is Ku
so we don't pretend to be anything or
speak like a one time some sisters were
doing da training one of them already
Hada the kind of she would make do 50
times for Salah and she had like ad0 or
not add um OCD and she plays the role of
the kaf so she's calling me up I played
the role of the CF and now I think I'm a
CF yeah why did you even do that you
already have these issues with and stuff
just couldn't have pick the wronger a
wrer person to do that um
look now someone said something to me I
put a note now I forgot what that means
learn it says learn here what do we talk
about
okay what do we talk
about oh
yeah okay someone else all right um
there's a anyone know much about Mormons
here yeah okay right there's for those
who don't know you just go on
YouTube and you write down Mormon band
cartoon oh yeah and just watch that and
in 10 minutes you're going to learn so
much about the Mormon faith
and it would be so easy for you to talk
to any Mormon from that day forward so
go on YouTube Mormon band cartoon
10-minute cartoon you watch it explains
their belief about God that belief is
not in the Book of Mormon by the way
it's in what
book anyone know the other book anyone
else know the the name of this book just
one person in the room anyone else
what's the name of that book pearls the
pearl of great price why doesn't anyone
know this name
everybody knows the Book of Mormon
because it's loaded with these
embarrassing beliefs the stuff you'll
see in the cartoon it's from that book
the pearl of great price they never talk
to you about the pearl of great price
because it's too embarrassing you have
to go through a process of
desensitization before they tell you the
stuff in the pearl of great price you'll
see why when he wants that cartoon okay
so he wants a cartoon it's going to be I
mean would you imagine that watch a
cartoon and you'll be able to give good
that why Tom and Jarry
right
so that's as far as that the brother is
saying that when you have a booth if
someone's being argumentative you're
saying look we're just out here where
this is Islam award this week and we're
talking to people about Islam you're at
a DA table someone comes up to you and
they know you're going to invite them to
your religion you know and so they know
also that you can use the table as an
excuse well you we have this table here
we've got materials and we're all trying
to let people know about Islam and so
people can know one another you know all
that sweet talk and people like oh yes
you know open broaden your minds widen
Your Horizon whatever they say okay
great that's it so on argumentative you
just say look we're here to share
information that's all okay
umth I still have something it says
learn here I put it to remind myself
something oh oh yeah you could probably
also tell the person who being
argumentative that you know uh that you
know it's all about education knowledge
is power and the more you know the
better and you know we're living in a
global village all that fancy thought
you give it right back to them the stuff
that they just give back you know Global
Village you know knowing one another Co
peaceful coexistence all that fancy talk
let them have it so then they want to
they feel okay well maybe I need to
broen my horizons and not be
argumentative and listen to what this
guy is saying we're going to do an
exercise right now that I like very much
it's I call it the because it's based on
a booklet that I written many years ago
never
published called it the virtual book got
a lot of virtual books out from well non
author virtual landb you know so it's
called the senseless evasion of the
Muhammad
equation it's it's a technique
that well I don't want to say I
developed it because actually after
developing it I discovered that the that
the classical Scholars have developed it
and there many books on the same topic
and so on and so forth so it's not mine
really but it's it's a way of proving
either the existence of
Allah or the veracity of the message of
Muhammad wasam through analyzing his
life and his teachings and his sayings
and his actions it's a very simple
premise and it it started uh I first did
it so many years ago there was a Muslim
guy he wanted to marry an atheist
obviously you can't marry her until she
becomes Muslim or Christian or Jewish
but I'm not going to give her da to
become Jewish or Christian so he said
can you prove to her that Allah exists I
said actually that's that's a very easy
thing if she's willing to listen so we
sat down and we proved the existence of
Allah just through by analyzing the life
of Muhammad Ali wasallam we're going to
do the exercise
together now it starts off like this
this is the this is the the premise or
the idea behind it is that with the
prophet s alaihi wasallam we have two
options right only two only two not
three not four that he was one a genuine
prophet of Allah or that
two that you were an imposter okay these
are the only two someone want to argue
for a third
one he was either genuine or he was not
genuine anyone want to argue a third one
that's saying that oh like he's not
genuine whether he thinks he is or not
yeah exactly he's not genuine I he's
genuine prophet got a message from Allah
or he's not genuine he made it up he
heard from a devil copied from another
religion whatever it is everyone agree
great so this is what you do with the
non-muslim this is the case I he was
genuine I he was not genuine now if if a
if a false prophet now if someone
entered this room right now and he said
look people I'm the prophet of
Allah now obviously we know there's no
Prophet coming after Muhammad wasallam
no new prophet so if someone walked in
this room put that aside could you ask
them questions to find out if they were
genuine or not yes or no yes yes now
would it take you a long time to
discover if they were genuine or
not yeah long time no very short period
of time right give me examples of a
question you might ask this
person yes sir how do you know your
Propet okay how do you know your Prophet
there's no wrong answer whatever
question you would like to ask yes sir
how did you receive the message how did
you receive the message what are you
looking for here
I'm exactly that's a good question you
see how it's a good question who who
brought you the message what's the name
of the Angel who brought you the message
you might say well it was like El or
something like
that you're right what if he tells you
you know is or is or something what do
you tell them it's actually not even
authentic that it's the name of the
angel of death but on top of that the
one that usually visits prophets
Isel so if they give you any name but
jel you have you know you have a problem
what else what other question could you
ask yes sir perform a miracle can you
perform a miracle please one time we met
a guy he said I'm Divine we said fly he
got upset said why is it every time I
tell people I'm God he tell me to
fly
because you should
fly what you expect you're God you
should
fly all right what else other question
don't tell me this guy will walk in this
room and stump us yes sir you know
the do you know when is the day of
judgment are you sure because a genuine
Prophet wouldn't know it either oh so
you're saying what if he said yes it's
on April
okay yes sir to resurrect someone okay
some miracle yes we're done with
Miracles yes well you know CU you're a
prophet I think you should live wealthy
so I'm going to raise you a millions of
dollars for you so you can have a big
mansion and if he agrees to that then
it's not problem okay and if he doesn't
agree he's probably dinner and Propet
yes I just have questions that like all
these things are things that are found
in Islam so how would that convince an
atheist which things
like um no just just stay with us in our
scenario here our specific scenario I
guy walked into this room I'm a prophet
of Allah what questions would we ask him
to see if he's genuine or false who's
you know who's the the the angel that
spoke to you uh Hamza ask him to recite
your his Revelation to okay I want to
hear your message right and what are you
really looking for something that like
agrees with the past uhhuh good so what
if I tell him what's your number one
message he says my number one message is
that blank blank blank and it's
something besides to you know for a fact
he's not a prophet why all the prophets
the number one message was every single
one of them
yes sir what's your book what's your
book okay it tells you it's called the
you know the I don't know the a
kiwii
huh so you won't be convinced because of
the name of the book the ban is the name
of book called the
ban okay it's a name yes sir the
physical signs
like well the mark because we were aware
that would look like that so what if he
tells you I'm one of those prophets with
no
marks what questions would you ask to
find if this person who's genuine or
false yes sir ask what's your bloody
name he tells
you so huh because you don't like the
name it's a nice
name has a nice ring to it yes
s
okay good what else by the way there is
no wrong question your name is probably
a good question too yeah maybe
ask he's in line with them it's probably
a good thing if he's not probably a bad
thing what do you think of the other
prophets ah I'm the only real one okay
you can probably X them up okay last on
yes who's is that me or is that
somewhere else that's you
how how
touching it
up look too much reverb when I put it
hey what um who is God okay does he
believe that muhamad was the last of
okay as said like all of the prophets
has been Shepherds something like that
uhuh so we're just going to point like
what's I like that what what's your
experience
about what's your exper what's the job
I'm a stock
broker second thing is said all all the
prophets have warned their people about
theel right so just started man give me
a minute I'll tell you about him
tomorrow I just started but you're right
excellent the brother's using Hadith
signs and Prophets and what what about
his lineage you know are you from the
lineage of
ibraim you know so great excellent that
means then we can ask certain questions
and find out if someone is a genuine
Prophet or not can we do that about a
prophet in the past if we have a lot of
information about them yes so we said
with the prophet we have two options
either he was genuine Prophet or he were
an impostor using what we know of his
sayings and teachings and so on we can
definitely come to a conclusion if it
was genuine or not genuine and you can
do this this is the exercise that you
actually do you you only need a pen a
piece of blank paper and the
cafer I like that like approves people
approves so you need a pen a paper and a
CET and this is to do with the
exercise you explain the two choices
that's number one the two choices either
there a genuine Prophet or not a genine
prophet then number two we talk about
you describe the environment in which
the prophet showed up in you know
pre-islamic Arabia the Customs the wars
the fighting the things the tribalism
how they held certain things very dear
they would fight over the most
ridiculous thing 30 Years War over the
most ridiculous thing so now in this
environment I hope you're taking notes
because this is exactly how you do this
exercise in this ex environment this
what you're telling the
non-muslim a person is going to pretend
to be a prophet
in this environment people fight Wars
over the most ridiculous thing he's
going to challenge their gods their
Idols their status in in
Arabia what he has to have a motive he
knows they're probably going to
assassinate him go to war against him
hate him try to kill him all these
things what would he he must have a
strong motive so what could his motive
be and here is when you start writing so
number
one someone give us a motive yes sir
money money so everybody write down
money time it's couldn't get any worse
so I'm not going to write down you write
now money okay someone else yes sir
power and women power and wom those are
two so power three women thank you for
saying women now because you have to
pull it out of people so money power
women what else yes sir wealth money
what
else status status okay so power SL
status money SL
wealth fame
fame put it in your power status uh-huh
retribution retribution for
what anything money H retribution for
something like Tri okay retributions
very good what
else sister is
just thank you very much
yes yes mad man may just mad attention
attention Okay Fame
attention maybe he EnV
else uh so you can put you know Envy or
just just pure evil whatever it is
whatever the non-muslim tells you you
write it down someone once said from
outter space write it down yes he might
actually be a prophet okay well that
we're saying now we already saw they
said these are the two options where
pursuing the path of him being not a
true Prophet what would his possible
motive be he has to have some strong
motive because they he knows they're
going to fight him and try to kill him
but you're right that's on the other
side anything else why would he pretend
to be a Prophet by the way you know with
mad man you can put schizophrenic right
or epileptic sorry schizophrenic also
yeah possessed by a gin so possessed put
that
down sko SK i t s
o
yes um my great joke made you forget it
try to regain lost land like a king or a
a from a kingly
things like that okay so he's trying to
regain some kind of Legacy some kind of
old Heritage or some old dominion of his
parents or something like
that
jealousy jealousy we have that right
Envy jealousy
okay anything
else people n just just a just a problem
maker just wants to divide people
possible I mean whatever people say
write it down no matter how ridiculous
yes
sister okay so someone like confuscious
just wants to improve just wants to help
things you know make things better right
very possible write it down what else
yes M puppet n puppet like the puppet
like there's someone else moving moving
people say like that right uhhuh so
someone else behind him so he actually
it Okay aw so it's being edged on by
someone else so write that
down all right you would stop or keep
going power n political power political
power okay last one n manipulation just
wants to manipulate people feel control
last one uh desire to cause corruption
on land okay so he like the people that
run M now America I
mean
kidding all
right
I think I had to buch te
morning is
that extra
C okay now what you do you let the
people you let them empty out whatever
is in their heart put any possible
motive and then what you do you go back
using what you know of the prophet
sallallahu alaihi wasallam and of his
sayings and his and his brother
I think someone's waiting for you inside
I think
yeah so just the brother just the
brother for him so what happens now you
go through these possible motives one by
one and see are they plausible or not
right did you write down Martian Alien
all that cuz someone said it once fine
put it down whatever they say put it
down okay so then let's start with the
easy ones so he pretended to be a
prophet in Arabia because he wanted
money now you start to refute it that
why it couldn't have been because of
money that he pretended to be a prophet
such
as yes he of course he was not like
hugey
person that he has there's proof from
that he has R behind W or something if
that was the case then he could do that
with all the wealth has been given to
him for for Zak and then for the resps
for Muslims and things like that you're
100% right give me specific examples
this incident that incident Z he was
actually offered they they they came to
him and said look if it's money you want
we'll give you all the money you want if
it was women we'll give you I'll stop
you there because I'll have to repeat it
all of bit anyway so the came to him at
the beginning of his call and offered
him if it's money you want we'll give
you money if it's Women will'll Marry
You to the best looking woman if you
want leadership we'll let you become a
leader and the proam refused something
else very good Z something else specific
uh sh uh
for Mad Men possessed by a no no sorry
we're just on money now we're taking one
at a time but you're ahead of us that's
good ahed he
died so when he died there were like
seven Dirhams left and that's not an
indication of someone who wanted money
something else specific like that yes
his room's room was like a look at the
size of's room
yeah so seven arms length and you know
and you know Palm stocks and mud walls
branches to cover and and a blanket to
stop the rain from coming in broken pot
a pillow filled with palm Fiber One
blanket that's the bed where's the we
specific example let's do um you can
tell like like a story of one when he
was CAU by by Roman general first the
general offered him I'll I'll I'll marry
my daughter and give you half my wealth
and he said no he said then I'll kill
you like I do this man and uh and he
actually like fight a person in in in
like uh boiling oil and he still said no
right and then he was about to throw him
in and and like like he refused all that
wealth so so like from his teachings is
that is that is that okay this this was
what he established with okay that's
good so if his followers were refusing
wealth it's possible that he was also
not one after wealth
yes one time he came to the
house
and he he when he opened the door saw
there was nothing there of substance
fiber Maps uhuh so then he started to
cry and said that the King of
Persia I'm sorry I'm cutting you off
because get yeah when we get the point
because I want to finish the exercise
before the end of the day so very good
excellent yes sir it's also about
when he could have taken all the wealth
and use it for luxury and like that he
did not
the brother
saying he could have used the world for
luxury just on that point itself a
little before that he was already
wealthy when he was before he became a
prophet true or false very wealthy he
became poor after becoming a prophet
that really goes against the plan right
what
else what the story me is not know
that even if it's WR in an Islamic book
or so it's
corre okay
got I'm actually going to have to answer
that one how you answer that one
tomorrow just so we can keep with the
flow but it is a it's a very good
question what do they say I don't know
this bukari and Muslim you're talking
about so that's why you have to actually
give some kind of explanation to how
authentic Hadith are and so on we'll
probably do that tomorrow okay some give
me some specific things about wealth in
the prophet yes okay if if he was going
for money as the as Islam grew his money
would would uh would increase but he
said that he started he was rich
initially and his money went down
soly uh I believe there's ath near the
end of his life he mortgaged his armor
get some food for uh uh for his family
but at that time he was the head of a
state right basically compens almost all
very strong point IIM there's a I don't
know said that if I
had it days it give it away give me
examples of actual times when he gave
away all right
sorry so would give you know tens of
thousands of camels and goats and herds
to people after battles know 10 you know
70,000 give it out 10,000 give it out to
the poor you know he just keep giving
and giving and giving well he lived in a
state of poverty even the problem that
happened with his
wives was related to them asking for for
a higher stipend or higher salary he
still refused to the point where it
caused him problems and imagine now
someone gives you $70,000 cash and you
distribute all of it and you go home and
tell you wife give us me 70,000 and I
distribute the whole thing and then she
gets upset with it why don't you bring
us some look at the condition that we're
living in so that how about when asked
when she told him that for two months
there would be no fire lit In The House
of the prophet he asked her how did you
survive she said dates in water so all
these things you keep listing them and
listing them and you see that he wasn't
you can easily cross out money that he
wasn't after money one more thing every
one of these motives think of it as it
relates to the
Quran okay we're talking about an
impostor who obviously would have to
write his own Quran how would money be
reflected in the Quran someone tell
us he's an impostor that's his motive
and he wrote the Quran yes give me more
money that's what it would say you know
bring you know of some money to their
Prophet make sure you know the prophet's
taken care of bring your wealth to the
prophet you
know what about the 1 The Spoils of War
is not saying he give it to Allah and
his
messenger so it's not a sign that he
wanted
money it huh but is it a sign no because
what happens to that 1/5th of this
Spoils of War they give it to the poor
it's not for the prophet personally so
you understand how you know then now we
can everybody can ex out money you can
prove to them it wasn't about money
right next what's which one you would do
so money wealth is out we've got power
status
Fame attention how do how can we
attention how can we prove it wasn't
about any of these give me specific
incidents ahed said that we'll worship
your God for one
year so during that year he could have
been you know the old powerful right in
the area yes sir uh when he said if they
put the sun on my right hand and the
moon on my left hand I wouldn't give up
this message
okay okay yes sir you came in can was
here by the way sorry can was here no I
apologize okay you would go into a room
where the Prophet s were sitting in you
wouldn't know which one the prophet
give me a second excellent point let's
just think about that point a little bit
so the Arab comes and he has he can't
tell which one he come to the m of the
prophet he can't tell which one is the
leader so he has to ask Muhammad can you
believe that can you walk into any room
now or in any religion and not know who
the big shot is if you ever heard of
someone walking to the king's court and
talking to the jester at your your
highness center it's so clear who the
King is who the big shot is from the way
they sit from the way they dress
buildings now when you walk in the
architecture of the room tells you who's
the big shop all the chairs facing that
one if you go to a you know a meeting
room can you tell where the the CEO sits
or the chairman of the board yeah
because he's the one who has the chair
with the arms uh the arm what do you
call armrests on it you know it's at the
head of the table so you you can tell
easily you know you go into any
religious establishment there's a guy at
the door he's got a hat like this you go
further inside he's got a hat like this
further inside the guy's got this huge
hat is breaking his neck that's the guy
who's a Chu the biggest cloak the
longest scepter whatever it is but the
prophet said it couldn't have been that
he was after power Fame for or something
like that because he would sit like the
companions dressed like the Companions
and it's so clear
that yes oh it's like
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whenever initi project he used to take
part in the project like as physically
like as the thinking of the trench
building the mid excellent he used to
like separate himself from anything else
so the brother saying would physically
take part in diing the trench building
the Masid he did all this work
yesing excellent for being so insightful
never heard that one before he used no
power F political power control and he
uses sh consultation excellent sh will
get to you
now his uh people his
successors uh they were they lived brly
as well they didn't uh from the to the
generals excellent they didn't they
didn't do anything even though they
conquered EMP so you use and even they
live this this type of life and and of
course as well and even actually more
authentic narration so excellent uh yes
about power about power and status
and
fame the B he fought any
other
okay
people EXC so you get me idea now we'll
take the last one ham you had to hand up
for a while during
the I said we don't want the messenger
of Allah on the on the contract he
actually own hand erased ited it so
that's something excellent did you hear
that sisters the treat ofia he said we
don't want Muhammad he erased it with
his own hand okay
great uh how how ahed on time are we
doing half an
hour
yes give it exact it's not an issue try
to end on time all right let's do the
next one
women you're ready go
ahead I didn't mean that the bad way I
don't know you're
laughead didn't get married till he was
25 and he didn't get married again till
after his first
wife have until he's over like 50 great
but don't skip any point you skip some
important points there so the accusation
is that you're you know you're saying he
pretended to be a prophet because he
wanted women that's his whole motive to
pretend to be a prophet he wanted woman
so Muhammad is saying didn't get married
until he was 25 that's first thing all
right second thing there's one more
which is
what he limited he limited the number of
okay but there's one more let's stay
with yes she was 15 years old she was 15
years older right she was 40 no woman
iser does that woman eyes always goes
younger right so then first he was 25
second thing she was 40 let's stay
withad people we're staying
withad okay so the sister staying with
she saying that remained with only for a
while that's another Point stay with
please
yes was the one who actually sent the
proposal for wedding to excellent point
not the way womanize it works she
proposed to him staying withad she
was was that what everybody else was
going to say she was widowed twice
excellent yes shut up uh
he he was he worked under her he wasn't
uh her boss she was his boss and he
didn't uh like steal her wealth or abuse
her wealth okay does explain link that
to him not being a womanizer if he was a
womanizer he would just use her okay
very good you see how we this is just
now already made like five points just
from this wedding you want to go to the
next step next wedding or next yeah to
who was it to first of
all Yes um first he only married um
after khad he married the wives that uh
their husbands were killed okay that's
true that's very true but I just want to
go in order just so it's easy for us so
he
married how old was
she years narrations go anywhere from 50
to 65 years old right that's one she was
older two she was
also widowed right she was married to if
I'm not
mistaken I think right
right uh then what else
about
okay uh she was also the only one of the
wives of the propham that was not known
or celebrated for her exquisite beauty
okay she's of the all the wife she's the
only one not known to be extremely
beautiful the rest were all known to be
extremely beautiful people you go now on
the internet you find Muslims who have
written books saying they were all not
known for beauty they were all
unattractive what's the matter and
there's not a brother in the room he
wants a beautiful wife but you want your
Prophet to to have all and 11 women who
are not attracted that's not true but
they're just trying to move it away from
having any kind of any beauty or sexual
connotation so they say the mothers of
the Believers were unattractive we don't
bend the truth to suit some kuar who run
after beautiful woman all their
life what are we ashamed of so we don't
say things like that ever so uh so as
some of the people were saying yes all
of them were except for all of them were
widowed or divorced or um some of them
were married for social reasons some of
them for human reasons like so it is
said she had no place to stay the prop
married her brought her into his home uh
some of them had a DA benefit like the
the marriage of to the daughter of Abu
sufyan her name
was the which other ones that was
related to marrying the daughter of a
leader of a tribe
very good excellent now the weddings
that showed the status of the father
of when you it also showed the position
ofak when he
married showed the position of yeah um I
just wanted to interject that all these
all the reputations have Muslim con like
they're from the Muslim right because
obviously that's where the majority of
the information is so we're saying look
at the information available we're using
that to analyze now we need to we need
to reassure them that this information
is very authentic because of time we're
doing that tomorrow so first you're
proving to them look this is where we
get our info from all right you can
trust it and now we use it to say look
could he could he have been a genuine
Prophet or not
um uh where was I yeah which wedding had
to do Witham and and religious
Revelation
Z right great so now we're starting to
see when you look at it you don't see
this trend of someone who's a woman you
see someone exactly the contrary of that
yeah anything else you want to add to
the to the marriages of the Prophet that
he wasn't about women blink it now to
the teachings to the Quran just like we
did with
money yes two of the two of the
marriages were
okay which
two and z z is actually the easier one
right so AA and Z yes if he was just
using them for sexual reasons why are
they called the mother of the Believers
okay and why they just who said the put
a limit the Quran put a limit and says
you know
that that it's not permissible for you
to marry after this why put an end to it
and why 11 if you're making up the dean
and you're a womanizer and that's why
you made up the dean disguise the limit
right what about the teachings the Quran
an impostor of course would write it and
their motive would be reflected you have
to write that down the motive would be
reflected in his teachings because he
made it
up Quran the environment he was in
before is actually much easier to do any
type of womanizing so right so why make
it a religion that restricts it and then
what about the message what would his
message say if he wrote the Quran with
that motive in mind yes
S I think you're saying with the Quan
said the men are to take care of women
that's not a writing of a womanizer
right he doesn't want to take care
womanizer doesn't want to take care of
anybody right specifically what would
the Quran say yes inheritance about the
Wom possibly uhhuh you're not wrong yeah
go ahead huh what would Z be excellent
what else it's like why the hij issue
should be enforced because they need to
woman be exposed at womanizer okay
womanizer probably want woman uncovered
why hijab anything else would would just
like with the money people with the
Quran what would it say if he wrote it
for the sake of money it would say bring
your money to the prophet
yeah good and if it was for women again
it would say you know let let them be
blessed by the prophet yeah this is now
happening in Muslim lands all right
where the she you know that would say
you know let me bless your wife this
night and the Sheik would bless her and
the Govern pick her up in the morning
Muslim countries Arab countries this is
happening okay so it would have been
this is just some so-called sh so this
if this person was an imposter Prophet
it would be so much easier for him to do
things like that
you know and possibly blessing people
left and right but this not the case
here but so we can easily now cross out
women but what else uh we said mad man
possessed schizophrenic how do we refute
those
yes said didn't know him as
a speech of
even right excellent so what you're
going to do you're going to use the same
arguments in the Quran or you're going
to say look if he were a Madman or a
skitzophrenic because one time this this
person was telling me that have you ever
thought what if he was someone an
epileptic when he went into epileptic
seizures he he heard voices when he
revived he said well this is the Quran
he heard these voices and that's what he
came up with how he came up with this
religion
so I mean it's in his mind it's a
possibility I to refute it so I told him
listen since the time before the prophet
and after his time until today how many
epileptics have lived and died he said
maybe tens of thousands maybe hundreds
of thousands said okay of all these
thousands upon thousands of epileptics
and all of them having their seizures
not one ever again in the history of
mankind when they got into to the
seizures Heard a Voice and came up with
this phenomenal system of government how
to deal with your wife and how to run
the state and how to deal with one
another and and how to be merciful with
animals and all of this from an
epileptic
seizure and no other epileptic ever has
come up with something great they all
get the
seizures no one of them heard anything
else he said yeah right so you can you
know you can argue with that cross mad
man okay mad have you read the Quran you
telling me a mad man wrote that look at
it so you can argue each one with the
message of the Quran with this with the
content yes sir um I've heard of uh the
idea of a mental disorder specific for
prophets MH so prophets only since they
all have the same message it's not
because they hear it from Allah but
because they all have the same mental
disorder MH but at the same time this
mental disorder brings out this good
message if well it's the same message
anyway oh I see and so this is just the
culmination of yet another message this
was the same person who made this
argument wow so how do you refute look
can we stay with this one how do you ref
refute this specifically shut up uh
that's just a medical disorder uh common
to one person like your asthma or your
cancer is not related to the next
person's cancer so why does the prophet
sallallahu alaih wasallam talk about
isim and and all the other
prophets okay okay okay so that's
actually another section when you look
at let me take the brother go ahead
theet
question he
he he was skeptic that he himself was
getting mad when he first with with
Z
yeah getting married you said no he he
questions the same oh receiving the
message when he received
the he I
am yeah he himself thought of that but
I'm sorry I'm going to pause a little
bit here and go into the message of the
Quran what can you tell me about the
message the teachings of the Quran that
prove it couldn't have been written by a
man 1400 years ago in Arabia number
one says anyone can come up with a book
like it then you challenge so the
challenge if anyone if anyone can
produce a book like the Quran has anyone
being able to you've seen some attempts
right and they were all utterly
ridiculous great quick Point
yes okay so basically you're trying to
say the science in the Quran true
there's a lot of Science in the Quran
very good yes the moral teachings and
scientific uh evidence okay scientific
evidence moral teachings give me
something specific mamad oh specific I
say no contradictions uhhuh okay that's
good no contradictions you know look let
me ask you this sorry think of it like
this if if you told the Quran was
revealed over a period of 23 years yet
it remains consistent right isn't that a
sign that it's not from a human being
what if I told you right now start
writing a book and finish it in 23 years
is that book going to be the same no way
you're going to start off you know you
know writing you know not much
contemplation not much wisdom as you
grow older you know and we shall do this
and we you and your language improves
you use big English words
like uh elephant and hippopotamus
excellent so so would change in 23 years
your writing would change your wisdom
would increase you would go back and
rewrite certain chapters Quran remains
consistent even though it's revealed
over a period of 23 years that's a sign
it couldn't have been written by some
human being what else also if I'm trying
to pretend that I'm a prophet I wouldn't
write in 23 years I'll try to get it
done in a few months and say here is
your book for the end of life most
likely right I'm not guaranteed
that okay
yeah was like he didn't use he could
write read so something so how could he
what if someone says he dictated it to
someone and also like how could he then
know the all the events of happened with
the previous prophets also future events
excellent so the brother brought up two
important points
too much too much history to know back
then and then we'll take this point then
we want to discuss future events yes he
was an and how could he write such a
like a classical Arabic grammar he spoke
well though we know that right he was
the most eloquent so he dictated it to
people they'll tell you but the point on
the future give me quickly some points
about the future mentioned in the
Quran yes in the Quran it says that the
trees have sexes and female scien just
50 6 years ago that's science stay with
future future something that will happen
in the future
H excellent is that what you're going to
say yeah that the Romans have been
defeated and then they after their
defeat they shall become Victorious
again in an odd number of years and this
was something in the future and it
happened how many years later n nine
just as the the Quran said this is a
knowledge of the future couldn't have
known this right um yes the future's
body sorry how how Pharaoh's body was it
said it was going to be found many
generations how okay how faroh's body
would have been found later on would be
found mentioned in the Quran it was
found later on how time would speed up
in the Quran in the future later okay
sir when we get to Hadith it says those
things stick with the Quran but you're
right though you are right yes they
Au okay science science future things
about things in the future AB would be
in Hell AB would be in the Hellfire
right that was what it's a
mean but AB died after the hij to Medina
so how did know that he was going to die
as a CF that knowledge of the future
only Allah could have known that and
ABAB to disprove that he would just
say he would disprove the Quran but it
never happened it's knowledge of the
future
in the Quran sorry the split of the Moon
the splitting
oh okay that's a very powerful Miracle
it's also and and actually there's a
point coming with that very good but
we're just very busy look I'll come back
to the Moon uh yes future victory of the
musl and that was proven by
the okay and and but okay also and also
about the Conquering of makah right
mentioned in the Quran when when was it
mentioned in
after yeah after the Treaty of hudia
could you imagine that theat would come
down on the way back from the ofia the
oppressive rules in that treaty again
knowledge of the future so we'll stop
with the future but you get the idea why
he couldn't have written the Quran
because you know stays consistent for 23
years never changed
the you know linguistic style of the
Quran the grammatical style the
challenge for anyone to write a book
like it and still until today it hasn't
happened knowledge of the future in the
Quran science in the Quran how about
when the Quran mentions rep
like reproaches the prophet Sall wasam
or mentions a flaw or fault of the
Prophet with an imposter write about
himself like that do you think
like he wouldn't write like that he
would write about himself as number one
would he say verses like you know that
Muhammad is not but you know but a human
being would probably Elevate himself you
know what else are we on faults or
reproach all the all the questions sorry
to cut you off again but all the
questions you know they ask you about
the day of judgment you know you don't
know the answer to it why would an
impostor say that he could make up some
future day 300 years from now he'll die
they'll die nobody will fault him for it
also um how about the fact that the
names of Isa and M are mentioned in the
Quran more than the name of Muhammad
sorry time how about that fact you think
of that the name Muhammad how many times
does it appear in the
Quran four times how many times the name
of and M
139 28 139 but an impostor he wants to
pump himself up bring himself up to a
high level and he writes more or not
more but he mentions other names of
prophets more than himself does that fit
the mold of an impostor so the more you
examine it with your non-muslim friend
you he starts to see that you know what
this book doesn't look like an impostor
wrote it it doesn't add up why is he
talking about other people and I want to
when the moon SP by the way why didn't
the for example look the prophet during
he would
recite people come to pray with the from
old you know areas old Tri new Muslims
old Muslims they all come to pray with
the prophet he
recites what's the wisdom behind
reciting go ahead what year did this
happen I don't know just
okay why the end of
the no why did
yous about
thees almost to to remind people of day
of judgment possibly anything else why
specifically he could have
recited you know it's look let me ask
you this the did they ever what what was
their problem with the
prophet
that they made the he made the that was
a big issue for them right maybe they
found some other issues here and there
why didn't they ever and they would have
taken any opportunity to attack the
prophet if they saw any flaw true or
false he's their number one enemy any
opportunity to attack him they would
have why didn't they ever once
say pedophile for example why didn't
they ever say that because it wasn't a
crime in their time that's tomorrow's
argument but also
why didn't they oppose
to why didn't they oppose to I didn't
say what what is this why not they all
happen in their time because they knew
it happened no one objected to it
Prophet would
recite in because now people from all
parts are there new Muslims and old
Muslims they're all there and they all
here the hour has drawn near and the
moon has been split so so everyone knew
that that happened that's why with this
huge Gathering and Salah no one opposed
it no one said wait a minute what is
this talking about is it reaffirms all
of them recognized that's going back to
your point about the moon splitting that
all of them recognize this happened
that's why their complaints weren't you
said the moon split or you married more
than one or the arguments that had that
existed today if anyone was to argue
against the prophet it would have been
the qur who hated him more than anyone
so of course the orientalists are unfair
their arguments but the arguments that
they have today they're just based on
today's culture you know why marry more
than one why marry someone who's younger
than 18 why do this why do that but the
would have been the first to object they
would have objected to the Surah saying
the moon has been split but they didn't
because they know it was a reality so
anyways so when you look at the
Quran the more you look at it the more
you see that it could not have been
written by by an impostor or by a human
being and if you claim it was written by
an impostor somewhere somehow the motive
of this man whatever it is must have
been must be reflected in that book that
he wrote by himself and so what you do
you go through the entire list all right
and that he just he was someone who just
wanted to divide people he wanted to
divide people but he's the one who gave
the had that you should not even you
have animals fighting against each other
you should even RI one animal up against
the other and he telling me he was there
just to split then why theat
about hold fast to the Rope of Allah
telling them that the Muslims are like
uh like the building the bricks hold one
another and that if one part of the body
is ill the other part responds
with fever so it doesn't add up
something else an impostor would not
practice what he would preach
right that's how you find the impostor
so you go the prophet he would say
and he would sleep most of the night
except for a little bit but the proph
would stand in prayer until his feet
would swell so what kind of an imposter
does that you don't have to put the act
when you're at home right so the fact we
have this testimony into his life in
detailed aspect we know how he bathed
you know how he put on his clothes how
he spent time in his personal life with
his family how he ate what he like to
eat what color he like to wear how he
combed his hair how he parted his hair
we know everything about him if there
was anything private that that we that
we would have known it would prove to us
that he was not a genuine Prophet that
he would not practice what he would
preach but everything we see tells us
that he was a genuine prophet and so
basically you go through the entire list
and you keep showing them like I said
you know you I know some of you are
thinking well we we're using Hadith
we're using Quran and they don't believe
in Quran they don't believe in Hadith
but we'll discuss that further tomorrow
inshallah um and when we do you go out
and you try this exercise like I told
you the person was an atheist and you
know she became Muslim she's still
Muslim she got two children now mallah
happily ever after inshallah um there's
also um like one time I tried this with
a cooworker and you know there was no
work and we just kept talking about this
and in the
end he said we also by the way did
something else that day we listed all
the skills of the Prophet every skill
that he had we can make a long list now
every skill that he had you know his
skill to of arbitrating between people
speeches military tactics and you know
raising children dealing with their
spouse um you know also you know
counseling all every skill that Prophet
has we listed it on a piece of paper and
then of course if you're saying he's an
impostor and he wrote the Quran he has
all the scientific knowledge back then
so oceanograph
you know you know the stars and the
planets and orbits embryology or biology
it's so many you just list keep listed
overwhelm the person just list all the
skills that he has just keep listed you
know his knowledge of the animal kingdom
the bees all that stuff make a huge list
and in the end made that list said okay
you think what do you think think one
person can have all that so this guy
came up with something he said look I
think that Muhammad wasam was probably
The Reincarnation of all the great minds
in history into one
man so I said this let me ask you
honestly what do you think is more
probable that he's a Reincarnation of
all the great minds because you know
when you look at you know you look at
quotequote great minds you'll find this
guy excelled in this thing but it was
one field you know Thomas Edis what if
you have 200 inventions he did steal
some of them from other folks by the way
but at the same time it's all dealing
with electri electricity D Vinci how
many Sciences did he deal
with physics right biology right he was
doing the section and all that but in
the end how many were there and it
wasn't like he was so ahead of his time
things that are impossible to know back
then like the science that we have in
the Quran and so in the end he said you
know so I said what is more probable
that he was The Reincarnation of all the
great men in history or that he's just
probably one of the genuine prophets of
Allah the man looked down and he said
he's probably a genuine prophet of
because when you do it like this you
leave no Avenue you leave them no Escape
either he's a genuine Prophet or he's an
impostor we looked at it it didn't add
up he was he was an impost we have the
book that you allegedly you say that he
wrote you look at it and you don't find
you know any indication that there is
anyos I just don't see his argument he's
saying that all the minds of the past
genus whatever but didn't come before
all of them well he's trying to make a
he's just trying to get get out when
when you're trying to get out you hold
on to anything you know so I know it
doesn't add up but I mean I didn't even
want to go there I just said look what
do you think cuz also part of the
argument of reincarnation is that it
just keeps going you know so whether it
started here or goes there it's just
going to keep going so but you're right
but the point is that what is more
probable he said it's probably a genuine
prophet of Allah
so uh try it have fun with it and this
is the plan when we come back tomorrow
we're going to discuss first of all a
little bit how do you how do you
convince them about the Quran and that
they're authentic that you can rely on
them then we're going to probably take
one or two of the question the most
difficult questions and discuss them
then we're going to go through the
different ways of refuting arguments and
convincing people and then we're going
to spend the rest of the day answering
those questions and maybe some of you
will come up here and then we'll go back
and forth show it's your skill in right
and in that way you'll be somewhat
prepared in for uh what LS ahead of
Islamic awareness week and other weeks
so anyways um again I want like to
really thank you I had a lot of fun
today it was great and you know excuse
me for my jokes if they were too
good
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