is so ridiculous yet another person
claiming it's racist to have a white
Santa you know and by the way for all
you kids watching at home Santa just is
white Jesus was a white man
too and you heard her she said it Megan
Kelly Jesus not only is Jesus white but
Santa is white so we had to bring a
former Christian White
Irish Englishman and get this a former
believer in Santa 2 to clear up this
topic here on the dean show we'll be
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brother alhamd John Fontaine yep how are
you you heard the clip we're going to
play it again Megan Kelly yes we're
going to go to this clip right now and
by the way for all you kids watching at
home Santa just is white Jesus was a
white man too so you heard it say it and
you heard me open the show I had to
bring a former Christian and white Irish
British English yes English
former believer in Santa yes to help us
cover this topic yes so what do you
think about what she said well it's um
it's a fictional character you know no
one's actually seen the real F Father
Christmas in England we call Call Him
Father Christmas I know you call him
Sons right yes so um yeah it's fictional
you know there's there's a few people in
history which he's based on uh we've got
St Nicholas who's a Christian Bishop uh
in the area of turkey which we know
today as turkey and St Nicholas was uh
was from that part of the world the
Mediterranean and he he wouldn't have
been white you know this area certainly
certainly wouldn't have been my complex
mhm which I would regard as white um so
I don't know where she would get this
idea that Sant is white mhm but it's
fictional you know the the fact is they
arguing over a fictional character
doesn't exist so you can make him he can
be black if you believe in him he could
be Chinese doesn't matter because he's
fake he's fake yeah but St Nicholas by
the way let's go to this clip there's
some um forensic evidence that also
shows that he wasn't white yeah of
course the real St Nicholas was from a
part of the world that is now turkey and
according to forensic scientists who
studied research originally commissioned
by the Vatican he probably looked
something like this so in this clip that
we just saw it obviously shows him being
someone from the Mediterranean region
there someone like a yeah someone he
would maybe have darker skin you know to
coope with the sun and things like that
but yeah he's not white yeah you know
but I mean um I mean St Nicholas himself
uh he he as a historical figure he
actually took part in the Council of NAA
uh 325 ad which was actually the council
uh which decided that Jesus was a part
of God so it's a very important uh
Council very important for the history
of Christianity yeah so we'll get to
Jesus in a in a minute let's still you
so you grow up you grew up tell us a
little about this you grew up believing
in Santa Claus that uh you know the big
fat man was going to come down to the
chy leave his reindeer up on the on the
roof and come bring you your presence
yeah we used to believe this my family
taught me that Father Christmas Is Real
uh Father Christmas was coming to up
come into our school you know we would
sit on his knee he would give us a
present and ask us what we wanted and
and we would um and we we believed in
Father Christmas you know it was a
reality he was real and when we're told
that he's not real it's it's a big shock
to the system mhm you know it's uh it's
a moment in our life when we remember
exactly where we were was at the time uh
you you mentioned something that you at
one point in your life you thought he
was racist yeah I mean I used to think
Father Christmas or Santa was racist
because after the holidays I would going
to school and my Pakistani friend didn't
have any presence you know so Father
Christmas he missed out all the uh
pakistanis all the Africans you know it
seemed that only white people got gifts
yeah that's real interesting we got a
clip over here we're going to go to the
actually
that Jesus he I mean not Jesus peace be
upon him but Santa he's also been locked
up a few times there's toys and
electronics everywhere I bet everything
in that bag is hot it's larsy Criminal
Trespass I think we got enough why don't
we just head on downtown huh I'm going
to need a whoa he's
running
what so you can see Santa here getting
locked up you know but also you you have
in today's day and age you have a lot of
pedophiles you have so I wouldn't really
advise would you you know letting your
your your child sit on some stranger's
lap especially in the sick society today
that we you know with all these weirdos
out there yeah you don't know who he is
you don't know who he is so how did you
snap out of
this I just I I came to the conclusion
that there's something going on you know
I mean I
was I can't remember how old I was but I
was questioning my mother I was saying
is he real is he not real and uh
eventually she told me that it not real
mhm you know and uh
yeah it's big shock big shock but it it
makes me wonder why we teach our
children this you know why would we lie
to our children because it's um it's not
a good thing to do it teaches you that
you can't trust your own parents if I
can't trust my own parents who can I
trust mhm yeah people see it as a bit of
fun but in reality it's not really
helping but isn't it I mean you were a
former Christian and any Bel uh
believing Bible Bible believing
Christian
if he looks into his Bible the opposite
is told about Christmas that you
shouldn't because when we look at the
roots of Christian of of of uh Christmas
we see that these have pagan origins yes
so the Bible says don't follow Pagan
cultures and actually you know it's
severe against it that God will punish
you yes did you know about that yeah I
mean all the prophets were sent
throughout time to correct the mistakes
which their people is making you know
cuz their people was following uh you
know Customs which were not a part of
the True Religion uh such as Abraham
peace be upon him he was correcting the
mistakes of his forefathers and the the
Pagan religions which they were
following and the same thing with with
Jesus peace be upon him you know he was
correcting the mistakes of his people
and this is the thing we shouldn't be
following uh pagan origins I mean if we
look at Christmas uh there's many
Origins you know such as Mithra Mithra
was a a son God uh which was which was
born on on the 25th of December you know
this this son God died was crucified was
was uh 3 Days Later came back to life
it's it's the same story as what we're
hearing uh with it with with the origins
of Christmas you know the 25th of
December you know I mean even according
to the Bible and the Quran uh Jesus
peace be upon him could not have been
born around the time of December or the
time of when they're declaring our our
suggesting he was born it would have
been uh most probably in the summertime
do you really think now Jesus would if
he was alive today a would he be
celebrating Christmas would he condemn
it condone it what was be his attitude
to a lot of the things that are
attributed to him in today's time yeah I
mean we can see many uh Traditions are
formed uh from from the supposedly
Jesus's birthday but we should look at
the look at the teachings of Jesus
himself you you know he he never told us
to celebrate his his birthday this was
not something that we was told to do and
we should and more importantly we should
he would never told us to take him as
God you know this is this is the this is
the new thing people uh taking Jesus as
the Son of God or God himself you know
we should we should follow the teachings
of Jesus where Jesus says worship the
one Creator you know this is this is the
message we should be we should be
following yeah if you stem now if you
look look at his teachings like you're
saying so uh these holidays obviously
are have pagan origins was he even born
on would can you say that he was born on
this day the 25th certainly not he
wasn't born on this day we can see from
as I said from the Quran and the Bible
we can see that he was most likely born
in the summertime with a result of
evidence to show that he was born within
the Su summertime so I mean you you
would say we almost before we go to
break that a lot of these lies they end
up catching up to you because this is
what atheists they take this you know
and they come from Christian backgrounds
and they see a lot of these things that
just don't make sense you know lies
after lies and then they end up you know
leaving these man-made religions yeah I
mean this is the the thing what's
happened especially in in Britain as
well many people have left religion
altoe because they can see the problems
with uh the Bible and the Bible doesn't
make sense they can see the Bible is not
from the Creator therefore they leave
religion altogether and this is why in
Islam we have to try and help people
come back to the current religion which
is Islam and that's the interesting
thing that what we have is is something
that's pointing us to asking for
evidence so when we look at the evidence
we see that no way that the Creator
sanctioned this is not from any of his
prophets including Jesus who we love and
rever as one of the mightiest Messengers
that God sent so we'll be right back
with more we have the next statement by
Megan Kelly that we want to clarify and
hopefully she's tuning in and she can
get the benefit and because we're really
not trying to to bash her at all we're
just trying to clear up and bring to
light some of these facts not fiction so
we cleared up if Jesus or Santa was
white yes and who he was fiction fiction
fiction and then we also and and most
people obviously know this but then we
we're going to get into Jesus she made a
bold statement talking about that he was
white yeah and we're going to talk about
his true Mission when we come back with
the author of Jesus and the inil John
Fontaine here on the de show we'll be
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author of Jesus in the inil John
Fontaine former believer in Santa yes
not anymore not anymore all right let's
go back to the unfortunately let's go to
the to the clip again Jesus was a white
man too Jesus is a white man too what do
you got to say about
that well Jesus was from the children of
Israel is that correct yeah yes of
course I mean we we all accept that you
know Jews Christians and Muslims accept
that Jesus from was from the children of
Israel so he would have been from the
part of the world in the Middle East uh
we say that he was born born in
Bethlehem and he was from the Middle
East you know Bethlehem so he was most
likely again not white like me where
funny enough if we see the Christians
the way they uh paint Jesus and draw
Jesus he would usually look something
like me he would have mostly Maybe red
hair red beard and a thob you know he
would look like a
Muslim mhm so yeah so Jesus was what
what in reality was from the Middle East
he was he was not white in the sense of
the way I'm white he was not
European he he was from the Middle East
and that becomes a big problem when you
give the attributes of the Creator to
the attributes of the human being and
then you give him a color skin tone a
nationality a language so now people
start now the race Wars begin because
now you have the African-Americans who
are making Jesus being black the um
Hispanics got Jesus you got a picture of
him and now it becomes a a race problem
isn't it yeah and this is they've not
only done this with Jesus they've also
done this with God uh if you go to Italy
you you look on the the walls you know
uh God is also um a white man you know
he looks Italian yeah you know you have
to you know there was appealing to the
audience if you like the the Italian
stallan mhm if you like you know he's a
he he he would look similar to Sylvester
Salone yeah you know it's quite a so so
where if you go to Africa these parts of
Africa where Jesus uh you see on the
churches I've seen myself that Jesus and
the angels are are carved into the into
stone they look black yeah this is where
where is it this is in Sagal inal yeah
parts of Sagal sier Leon yeah you know
they portrayed Jesus is black uhhuh so I
mean it it's it's about people trying to
fit in and trying to fit their beliefs
within what they feel comfortable and
they probably both of them that end up
uh Santa Claus and Jesus if they were
trying to fly nowadays they probably end
up on a no fly
list right yeah it's true yeah isn't it
true yeah I mean generally you know we
we don't get an easy you don't go
through the airports easy you like okay
so uh moving along I mean I think now
that we've cleared up
okay the doubts about that that
obviously Santa and this is that time of
Christmas we see that there was no
sanction for it in the Bible Jesus never
taught it nor was he born on that day
now the message I think this is even
more important because we have a lot of
fictional characters and fictional
events they're just made up and suited
for the times and a lot of this make
believe
is just going on and on and people are
just getting fed up and like you
mentioned earlier you know the The
Atheist people are leaving religion and
now here comes Islam telling the truth
what was the true message of Jesus you
know what what did he actually Proclaim
did he Proclaim to be God Islam clearly
says no let's elaborate on this and
truly letting the people know that this
what we're going to say right now this
is not fiction this is fact the true
message of Jesus peace be upon him what
was that yeah it it the thing when Islam
came it came with the the final
Revelation which is the Quran which is a
perfect guidance for for which we use in
our daily life you know it's not just a
law but it's it's teachings within which
we would take use as an example not only
the Quran but also the the prophet peace
be upon Him Prophet Muhammad peace be
upon him we use the example of his life
in our daily life and when we look into
uh the the pre previous uh if we look
into other holy holy uh books which
claim to be holy books such as the Bible
we see that there's a lack of teachings
within the New Testament especially uh
within the Christianity which actually
which actually lead Christians to
actually now look in other in other
directions for teachings uh to for
direction in life as well so when we
look at the Quran we see it's the final
Revelation and it is from the Creator
and the Quran talks about the previous
prophets it talks about Jesus in depth
it talks about how uh he was he was born
there's a whole chapter named after his
mother Mary the Surah Mariam which talks
about the birth of Jesus and and also
Surah Imran it goes through the the the
family of Jesus as well and we can see
that Jesus peace be upon him he came
with the same message as all the
prophets which was to worship the one
Creator the one God and the way we do
that is that we have uh the five pillars
of Islam the first form of worship is to
acknowledge your creator okay this the
the first thing we have to do is
acknowledge that that there is a Creator
and the only the Creator is worthy of
worship and this is this is the this is
the first pillar of Islam so once people
understand that and they can move on to
the rest but so we stick to that first
that acknowledging that Jesus peace be
upon him was the Paragon example of
Human Excellence yes the best of
character a teacher just like Abraham
and Moses teaching the message that was
sent by the Creator for Humanity yes but
now people get confused because you ask
someone do you believe Jesus is is God
was he sent by God and most people agree
yeah he was sent by God but he's the son
of God yes so they attribute God having
a son yeah and then being one yeah how
do you clear this confusion I mean we we
look at when we say the Son of God Jesus
I mean we don't as Muslims we don't
believe that Jesus is a physical Son of
God now if you're talking about
metaphorical we can see that
metaphorically we're all children of God
okay uh David in the Bible is described
as as a Son of God but uh the Jews and
the Christians have never said that he's
a physical Son of God you see so we can
see even within the Bible that is
metaphorical okay so Jesus yeah as a
metaphorically a Son of God but
according to Islam God does not have
children okay God is not like the
creation we can't imagine the Creator is
beyond our comprehens mention okay so
Jesus is a prophet of God he's one of
the mightiest messengers of God he came
with the teachings and we follow Jesus
we love Jesus as a Muslim we have to
love Jesus if we don't love Jesus and we
don't believe in Jesus as a prophet we
we can't be muslim okay because this is
one of the Articles of Faith as a Muslim
to believe in all the previous prophets
now if you ask obviously Jesus peace be
upon him he did he didn't speak Greek he
didn't speak English he spoke Aramaic
correct and you talk about this in your
book Jesus in in
so Jesus today if we we mention a word
that he's never heard like for instance
was Jesus a human was Jesus a human I
think everybody who knows English would
say yes yes correct but now we're going
to use a word that sums up what he did
his whole mission and that word is Islam
and Muslim can we link that back to
Jesus that Jesus was a Muslim who did
Islam and now connected all together
because many people have the Mis notion
the misconception that Islam is some new
religion
this is something new that came along
Christianity came way before it but you
know when we explain to him that no
Islam has been there from the beginning
Jesus was a Muslim but now there's some
confusion like how is that can you
answer this I mean people always say I
hear this all the time you know they say
oh Islam came later no is the first
prophet in Islam is Adam peace be upon
him you know Prophet Adam and and Jesus
and all the prophets were worshiping the
one Creator if we look at Abraham peace
be upon him he he was not Jewish or
Christian and no Jew or Christian will
tell you that Abraham is is Jewish okay
Abraham was a monotheist he was
submitting to the one Creator the one
true
God as according to the what he he had
been revealed and the Arabic word for
this is Muslim so someone who submits to
God is a muslim okay so at the time of
Moses Moses P upon him was a Muslim he
was submitting to God the one true God
the creator of the universe the same way
Jes Jesus peace be upon him was
submitting to the one true God and the
the the the Arabic word for this is
Islam now you obviously being a former
Christian was in your your in your
studying did this Fascinate you and this
is one of the things that led you to
Islam along with all the evidence not
blind just blindly jumping into it
because you have to sacrifice a lot to
leave your your parents religion to come
over to Islam is this one of the things
that fascinated you yeah I had many
questions you know I was asking the
church I was asking the people at the
church and they couldn't answer me they
was just telling me have faith have
blind faith I couldn't I wanted answers
and if you want answers you have to go
where they have answers and when I
started to look into Islam they had
answers all the answers you found them
every answer you everything was made
clear purpose of life everything's there
why you've been created where you going
when you die everything is there the
Quran is the perfect Revelation for the
rest of time yeah yeah all right we we
want to assuage any fear because now we
have some more questions because the
Skeptics might thinking terrorism his
suppression of women and Megan Kelly's
probably toing in she's like
come on what they do to their women
right just hold on Megan please we're
going to address these issues with the
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back here on the dean show and hopefully
our special guest tuning in Megan Kelly
we got to clear this up for her and now
you've just expressed what Islam is
really about worshiping the Creator not
the creation explain this confusion
about the literal meaning that God
actually had a su cuz that doesn't make
sense you know and when you really think
about it how can you know it does make
sense were you battling with that for
some
time and the whole idea of God dying you
know you God sending his his only son
why wasn't the daughter do you ever
think no one can explain it but why I
mean look if this is true I mean isn't
this you know shouldn't this the the
women the feminist movement jump up and
say why why didn't God have a daughter
think right yeah and then they come
together and have grandchildren
yeah doesn't make sense doesn't make
sense I mean it God created Adam yes so
how can God be Adam how can God how can
God be a part of the creation you know
the Creator cannot be a part of the
creation you know it doesn't make sense
yeah it's uh and it it when you ask
start to question they they won't answer
your questions in the church yeah no one
has answers because there's no answer
and you went through this I went through
through this yeah yeah so Megan Kelly
now she's hopefully God willing we want
all of our viewers to reach out to her
and her Twitter and send this to her and
have her get involved and really see
where we're coming from because there's
a lot of misconceptions but you got an
American and Irish English here we're
not Arab because that's one of the
things people think okay you know you're
you're a Muslim so you're an Arab and we
see that obviously Jesus was not white
he was a CTIC so he spoke Aramaic sister
language to Arabic he called on God by
allaha Allah who right so this is
amazing you're learning some very
interesting amazing facts but now
someone's like look not every how does
the saying go not every Muslim is a not
every terrorist is a Muslim but every
Muslim is a terrorist right yeah and
people ask you oh you became a teror as
soon as you tell them now you became one
who submitted to the will of the Creator
you're a terrorist now that's what say
yeah so what do you say to assuage any
fear so you know people are really
having some bizarre crazy things
associated with Islam well many times
people
judge Islam or they judge they judge
Islam by the People by the followers and
that's not correct you wouldn't judge a
car by the driver would you no you know
you would judge the car by the
instruction manual which is the Quran
okay so we have to judge Islam by the
actual fundamental principles of Islam
if you go to the Quran and the hadiths
the the sayings of prophet Muhammad
peace be upon him we can judge Islam by
this and when you see this you see that
Islam is perfect and the funny thing is
when you look on online or you look into
the media whenever they attack Islam
they attack the Muslims okay they don't
actually attack the sources of Islam
they don't attack the Quran they don't
attack the Hadith they attack the the
actual Muslims but when you see people
attacking Christianity they tend to look
at the contradictions in the Bible they
look at the problems with the actual
Source do you understand where coming
from because they they see that the
source has a lot of problems but the
thing with Islam is the sources in Islam
are perfect as I say we have the
original uh Quran uh letter for letter
word for word it's the same Quran which
we recite uh every day which we had at
the time of prophet Muhammad peace be
upon him any contradictions in the crown
because people say okay look you know
something that was written that long
time ago these men were inspired they
wrote the Bible so even with all the
mistakes and contradictions not trying
to disp on anybody just trying to bring
just like we brought Santa Claus to
light you know the two fairy we didn't
talk about him but you know now we're
trying to bring this to light the true
message of Jesus peace be upon Him amen
yeah I mean and the thing with me I
didn't just accept Islam I tried to
prove it wrong for many years it maybe
two years I was I was Pro trying to
prove Islam wrong I was going to to the
Quran to the Hadi to try and find
something to to Pro to disprove Islam
and I couldn't find it
eventually I had to submit myself to
Islam but do you think before we leave
we have to cut out people have this
illusion in their head what the truth is
they want God to look like this color
like them speak this language and now
when the message doesn't fit with what
they want it to be it becomes a problem
do you see what I'm saying yes and now
isn't this an obstacle for many people
because you have to humble yourself it's
not like what can God do for me it's
like what can I do for my creation
yes so when the message comes now you
have to eliminate all this racism all
this hate and block it out and really
just you know examine it humbly this is
a part of the submission you know
because everyone be before Islam your
your ego is telling you that God should
be white or God should be black no God
is something that you cannot comprehend
and once you understand this then you
can submit to God and you have to think
of it like this if the create if we look
at the creation okay now if we look into
the heavens and the Earth and we look
into the stars and and and and the
universe Subhan Allah if if if God
created the universe surely this God is
worthy of worship yeah and we can't see
God we can't even look at the sun if we
look at the sun we go blind we can't
even imagine the next solar
system understand where I'm coming from
so how can we imagine God how can we see
God we can't it's beyond our
comprehension yeah so when once we
understand that that that God has
created the universe this God is worthy
of worship and as I say that the the
first form of worship is acknowledging
your creator actually acknowledging that
he is there that there is a Creator and
acknowledging that he's worthy of
worship and you do this by testifying
and you make a statement you testify the
shahada which is the Declaration of
faith and you say that there's nothing
worthy of worship except Allah God and
that Muhammad be upon Him is the final
messenger and once you accept this you
have come into the fold of Islam and
that's all it takes it's so easy to
become a Muslim and this is the same I
mean declaration you'd make during the
time of Jes if you were living during
the time of Jesus there's during the
time of Jesus there's nothing worthy of
worship except the Creator and Jesus is
the messenger not the god or the son
literal Son of God correct so you start
to connect this to make sense so
terrorism with Islam
baloney
exactly suppression of women doesn't
happen baloney so all these things
people if they really look at it I mean
we're not denying that that uh maybe
some people are oppressed by Muslims but
Muslims are not perfect okay but Islam
is if if this is happening this is
against Islam yes definitely so much to
talk about go ahead before just one one
last thing uh the reason it's so
important to submit to your creator okay
because it's easy to believe in the
Creator when we look into the into the
proofs but you have to submit okay Satan
believes in the Creator okay he believes
that the Creator exists but it's not
enough mhm okay you have to submit to
the Creator you have to acknowledge the
only the Creator is worthy of worship
give the example that you gave about
someone denying their own mother yeah I
mean if I'm a good person I do the best
amount of good deeds in the world you
know I can I can be Nelson Mandela okay
but if I ignore my own mother am I a
good person
no it outweighs everything I do so how
can I be a good person a truly good
person if I don't acknowledge the
Creator that's deep yeah thank you very
much we we look look we got to still you
know it's coming around that time
Christmas so we're thinking about doing
another show yes you're going to be
around yeah I'm around okay so God
willing we have you back again yeah all
right thank you very much peace be with
thank you very much for tuning in Megan
Kelly hopefully if she hasn't watched or
she's watching you guys can reach out to
her and get her this show on her Twitter
page we have this on our Twitter page go
ahead and forward it to her and God
willing if she Tunes in you know because
there are a lot of misconceptions you
know when the truth comes you know she
was an attorney and she can understand
that you know the attorney's job is to
try to if you're in
this part of the law where you're trying
to discredit someone so an old lady
comes up very Innocent but if you're in
the opposition your your job is to to
make this lady look out to be the liar
so now you have Islam come in and it's
the truth but it has all of these
negative connotations attributed to it
but when you come to to know it for what
it is that it's Simplicity the
believable message and then you as a
woman if Megan Kelly you're tuning in
you you start to see these facts that
the first person to embrace the
submission to the to the crator when it
came to the prophet Muhammad peace be
upon him during his time was a woman
that's right the the first person to die
who was a martyr defending Islam she
stood for Islam was a woman the greatest
scholar in Islam was a woman so talk to
a Muslim woman and see if she's
subjugated or oppressed because that's
usually what they'll bring up and then
you see that through watching the dean
show you see that a lot of these lies
that been told to us the whole Santa
Claus Fable and then you have the two
fairy and then Jesus his true message we
tried to clear we clear that up Jesus
now never claiming to be God or a
literal Son of God so if if you were
lied to once you'll be lied to twice but
Islam sets it straight and gives you the
evidence and the proof so you can go
ahead and submit knowing that indeed
this is the way of life from the Creator
that gives you peace prosperity and
purpose in this life and Paradise in the
next definitely without a doubt you'll
come to know that if you humbly seek the
guidance from your maker your creator so
hopefully this show has been of benefit
and during this time now it's time for
for us to really reflect if this was
brought to your attention and to go
beyond just blindly following the custom
and cultures of your grandparents
forefathers and be someone who is humbly
seeking to know really what's the
purpose of life why have I been created
and where am I going when I die tune in
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