This is the
alhamdulillah. Peace be with you.
Greetings. The best of greetings. The
same greeting that Jesus, Moses, and the
last and final messenger sent the
mankind Muhammad. They greeted their
followers with this greeting of peace.
And we're greeting you with that
greeting here today. And Muslims are
from all around the world. That's right.
We got a Greek Muslim, Hamza Dorses,
here on the De Show to tell us his story
on how he came to this beautiful way of
life, Islam, submission to the one God.
We'll be right back with his story here
in the D show.
This is the
show. This is the show. This is the
show. This is the dean show.
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Peace be with you.
peace be with you and you brother.
What's going on? How the people in
Greece?
They're okay. I guess
you like the Greek food.
Not really.
So now what? Did you become an Arab?
You were Greek now. Did you becoming a
Muslim?
You think I have the ability to change
my DNA?
I mean, what do you think this is?
So you're a Greek Muslim. Yes.
Is that that's like, you know, hey,
amazing. There's a is there are there a
lot of Greek Muslims in uh now people
who have descended from other places but
people from Greece accepting this way of
life
and it's growing there's Greek
organizations that are Islamic and
they're calling people to Islam and we
have some massagit and people are
calling to this beautiful way of life
how are you now how did you get to where
you're at now you were a background what
Christian
Christian stroke humanist stroke secular
so you were just it was a big buffet
buffet. It was a buffet, man.
It was a buffet. Okay.
It was a buffet.
And so, tell us a little about yourself
before Islam.
Okay. Well, my name is Andreas. That was
my name. Andreas Gis. And I came I was
born in London in England. My dad is
from Athens, but originally from
northwest Greece. My mom is from the
Greek part of Cyprus. She came to
England because of the 1974 invasion,
the Turkish invasion of one-third of the
island. So my parents met and I came
about and I was brought up in an area
called Hacknne. It's equivalent to the
Bronx at that time. Hackne was a bit of
a ghetto rough area. We used to live in
these block of flats based in a ditch.
Like for example, we're on the second
floor and the second floor was in line
with the ground. So this is the kind of
environment I was I was brought up in.
And it wasn't easy. There was some drugs
in the environment, gangs, Chinese
gangs, especially the triads.
You were in a Chinese gang? I was Yeah,
I was in 14K.
Okay.
14K. There was like Wing W and 14K. I
was in 14K. These way these trousers
with these stars on them and all these
symbols. We used to carry like choppers
in our bags. Yeah.
But, you know, I wasn't heavily
involved. I was always still a really
good kid. I was a very compassionate. My
dad brought me up in a very
compassionate way. Always talking about
love and compassion and stuff. But, you
know, you could be a product of your
environment sometimes. So, that was the
kind of upbringing and kind of
environment. Although I was quite an
intelligent kid as well at the same
time. So I was in two worlds. I think
many kids have that issue as well. They
got good family background, compassion,
love, they're intelligent, but they want
to conform to society. And all children
want to do this. They want to conform.
And this is how social norms are
developed in society by human beings
wanting to conform. We want to be
certain. We don't want to be alienated.
That's why Islam teaches you to be a
leader, to be a shepherd, not the sheep.
So you bring your flock. And this is
even in our community in Chicago
wherever we are that we have a distinct
character because we worship the creator
not the creation if that's the case you
be distinct and everyone wants to follow
you you know you follow them but
unfortunately I didn't have that Islamic
background because I wasn't brought up
as a Muslim and so that was my kind of
environment
how old were you around that time
well it was from the age of 14 to 19
14 so what happened at that age of 14 15
you're going along life you know you're
just doing what normal kids are doing
music you know um movies gang things.
I was a bit unique though as well
because my dad would take me to like the
Ro School of Music. I learned classical
guitar. I used to know how to read and
write music as well.
I used to learn Chinese, Mandarin.
I said, "You're very pretty."
So you
speak Chinese?
No, no. I I used to learn it for a year
and then after when I became Muslim, I
stopped and I went to go into other
studies. But I was dabbling into
Chinese, different cultures. I was into
kung fu, wing chung kung fu, shaoling,
still wa mantis. Yeah. So these I was
very cultural at the same time. So it's
like almost a double life or triple life
I was leading and you know women and
stuff like that. So I was a confused
kid. I didn't know who I was from that
perspective. But I always had a good
respect for traditions like Buddhism and
Islam and I used to read around these
things quite a lot even at a young age.
So how does Islam fit in? Did you meet a
Muslim? Did you read something on the
internet? How were you at Were you
seeking guidance? Because a lot of the
people we talk to will ask them, "Have
you ever asked God for guidance?"
Because we believe if you ask the
creator for guidance, he'll facilitate
the way. I
I'll get were you like, "Okay, did she
break your heart? Did were you just was
the night cubs getting played out? Did
the other gang kid be beaten up on you?
Or did you did you like get to a point
where you're like, "I'm just sick of
everything." What was it?
Well, I tell you what it is. I always
wanted to know truth. My dad said to me,
"Always have an open mind. and read
every tradition. So when I was at high
school, I used to have a Muslim friend.
He came from Bangladesh and he was such
a nice guy. He was very distinct. He was
a cool guy, but he went a makab with
women. He would honor women. He would
honor human beings. He'll be very
distinct, very his principles won't
change. They won't waver just to look
good. And for me that I found that so
attractive and I wanted to be like him.
So he was introducing me to Islam very
slowly. He gave me this booklet called
Faith in Progress by this brother called
Jamal Howard, right? And it was about
that God exists that you got think
reflect because the Quran teaches you to
think and reflect. It doesn't just have
blind faith. Think
do you not use your intellect your mind?
This is the verbatim word of God. The
Quran.
Yes. The verbatim word of God.
You're not quoting it in Arabic.
It is Arabic.
Yeah. Yeah. That's what I'm saying.
You're you're Greek and you've learned
Arabic also. You're quoting the
original. Like if the reason I'm
bringing this up, if you wanted to
follow, let's say you're a Christian
wanting to follow, let's say, the
original teaching of G, you can't, you
don't have the original. You don't see
someone quoting Aramaic or you don't see
that. But you're you're quoting the
original verbatim word of God in its
original text. Right?
This is why Professor Angelica Nureth in
the Cambridge companion to the Quran.
She says, "The Quran we have today in
Arabic is the same as we had 1400 years
ago."
So continue. I'm sorry for cutting you
off.
God says in the Quran which means and in
themselves do they not see. The Quran
uses the word
which means for those who reflect. Now
this doesn't mean any type of reflecting
like oh you have a nice beard Eddie. I
like your gel. The way your hair moves
you're a handsome guy man. Not that kind
of reflecting. This reflection is the
thing that you're reflecting upon. You
must think about its implications. What
does it mean? What does it mean? Quran
want you to think. Doesn't mean to be
blind. That's why it says, "Are you
going to follow your forefathers even if
they were based on falsehood?" So, this
small booklet was a fascinating booklet.
It opened my mind to something. I
thought I was like, "Wow, I thought
religions were all about blind faith. I
thought religions were about not
searching the truth and just just just
believing in your heart, but Islam is so
unique. It's believing in your heart,
understanding is part of your nature,
but also it agrees with the mind." And
that's the beautiful thing about Islam.
So, that started me off, although I
didn't become a Muslim. I didn't become
a Muslim. So what happens what happened
was I went to university to study
psychology. So I was studying psychology
and I was the kind of guy that I was I
was a bit rough on the edges. I was just
I was a nice guy like my dad you know I
wanted to copy my dad and my dad would
help everybody. So my friends would say
to me we have a dissertation to do. We
have to give it in. It's the last day. A
few more hours left. Few more minutes
left. Can I copy your conclusion? And I
was like that was a nice guy. Take it.
Copy it. What happens? University finds
out. I get in trouble. they get in
trouble. I have to start the year again.
This was the second year. I was upset. I
had to take one module again. I sat in
the tribunal if you like. I said it
really I didn't copy anybody. They
copied me. I'm telling you I this is my
spelling mistake. This is the way I
write. And they knew that. But they had
to be fair and said look everyone goes
cuz you gave them your work. So what
happened was I took a year. I started
working as a project officer to become a
project manager. So I was working in in
the British government. I was working
for the police IT organization at the
time. I was learning more about project
management. I was given a lot of money
to do a lot of project management
training. So I entered in that kind of
office environment. And then I was still
reading more about Islam. But Christmas
came and we went to a boat party
and
what happened in that boat party was
basically a small milestone to change
the rest of my life.
From a boat party.
Mhm. So, I'll tell you about the boat
party maybe after the break.
After the break. Okay. So, don't go
nowhere. We want to know about this boat
party here with Hamza Tarses on the Din
Show.
Is your boss driving you crazy? Are you
just living from paycheck to paycheck,
party to party,
and everything is just getting tiring?
It's getting played out and you're
asking yourself, what's this all about?
What's the purpose? Many people don't
reflect and why am I here? You're born
to die and then what do you got in
between? It's a big drama. Some days are
good, some days are bad. Some days
you're sick, some days are sad. We not
we might not make it to 85 years old. We
might not make it till tomorrow. And
this is something that we need to think
about. The lights will go on after the
party and the party will end. and you
will be alone and you will have to be
accountable for everything you've done.
Life is not all about just chasing that
man or woman or that good time. It's not
all about the baseball game and the
basketball game and chasing a position
and getting a lot of wealth and money.
There's more to this life. And it's up
to you to be sincere enough within
yourself and to want to know more.
What's the purpose? What's it all about?
Life.
attention.
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Back here on the Dean Show and we're
getting our brother Hamza
to say Greek Muslim didn't become an
Arab you don't obviously have to become
an Arab and Indian or anything if you're
an American you're American Muslim
Muslim is simply one who submits not to
the creation but to the creator and
you're following the best of mankind
Muhammad peace be upon him who's the
last and final messenger sent to mankind
is it true this is the same way that if
you're living during time of Jesus you
would have to follow his teachings not
worship him
is that true
yes
so before we go to the boat party now
were you because your family was
Christian. So, did you follow the
teachings at all? Did you do they
believe that he was God? He died for the
sins of the world. Did you believe that?
Well, the thing with the Trinity and the
incarnation is that it confuses all the
Greeks anyway. So, that's they just
believe in this man called Jesus. He was
a really nice man and we just have to be
really nice to people. That's the that's
Christianity in Greece now
because I mean the Greeks are thinking
people they got who well they're
supposed to be. Hey, you know, logic
origin
and now and now Trinity comes in.
Exactly. Confuses them because they
would think how can the divine majesty,
the divine reality incarnate into a
human being. How can there be three
persons and one consciousness, one
essence? Bit of confusion.
So, is it kind of just embedded into the
the race now? Okay. They feel like,
okay, this is a part of us. Okay, we're
Greek. Live Greek, die Greek. You can't
if you become another religion, you've
left Greek.
Well, this is the plan. been called a
traitor because uh I've become a Muslim,
but I try to explain to people that's
not true.
You're still Greek?
I'm still Greek, of course. I like Greek
food. I love my parents. The parents
love me. I still speak Greek. I love
Greek poetry. I like Greek literature.
And Don Samaris, he wrote an amazing
book called Zidis, Hope, Wanted. It's
very kind of psychological, social book,
short stories. It's fascinating. I'm
still Greek from that perspective. Okay.
I still know how to Greek dance as well.
I might show you later at the end. So,
the boat party now. We're at the boat
party.
So, we're at the boat party and
basically I wasn't the kind of guy that
like parties anyway. And I was more of
like want to have a conversation, a bit
of dinner, maybe do a workout, go to do
some kung fu, you know, or have some
friends. But what happened was is, you
know, an interesting uh human being came
up to me, a female, and you know, all of
creation is beautiful. Allah creates
everything that's beautiful.
So, uh I realized she was a Muslim. M
and I knew a lot about Islam and I was
really shocked. I said, "Look, one
woman, sit down, man. No dancing. Sit
down."
And she's shocked, right? She's like,
"What's going on?" You told her that
I was telling her that. He was like,
"What's wrong with you?" I said,
"Listen, what's your name?" "You're a
Muslim." So, you shouldn't be doing I
took the drink out of her hand. I gave
her an orange juice. And we start
talking about Islam. And I start saying
to you know, you shouldn't be doing
this. These guys, they're just You're
not even Muslim at the time.
I'm not Muslim at the time. And she's
like, "Who are you? Some kind of MUI?
Some kind of scholar? Some kind of
mull?" I said, "No, but you know, I know
this reality. They don't really love
you. They don't they just see you as a
piece of flesh. They objectify women in
this society. But in Islam, we see woman
as a holistic human being. She's not
just a piece of arm and a piece of knee
and a piece of leg and just some nice
eyes." No, we see everything in its
oneness. Holistic. So, we see that she's
a character. She's spiritual. She's an
intellectual. She's got a heart. She's a
future mother. All of these beautiful
things that we want to connect with.
These guys don't want that. What are you
doing here? She was shocked. You could
imagine, right? So, we exchange numbers.
I go back to the office. I lost her
number. Nothing happens. After 3 months,
I get a call from the HR department,
human resources. Bring bring Mr. Zis,
it's so and so on the line. And it was
the lady. She somehow found out where I
worked. She found traced me down. She
tracked me down, boy. So, I pick up the
phone. I'm discussing with her. So, we
we have some kind some kind of a
friendship or relationship if you want
to call it that. But even then, it was
emotionally allowing me to learn more
about Islam in a way because even though
she wasn't practicing, there is
something about a Muslim woman that when
she was brought up in a Muslim family,
it's like it's like a purifier. You
could have you could have a a bottle of
water that's really muddy, you know, the
really small tablets you put in there
and it cleans it up. That's what
happens. Even if you know just the iman,
just the faith in God and knowing that
you don't worship creation, you worship
the creator, that itself gives you a
different kind of I don't know how to
explain it, bro. It's like a a N and an
aura. And even though she wasn't
practicing,
she had that small belief. And that for
me was so attractive. Not her, but her
belief. And what made her that she loved
kids so much. I've never seen anyone
that loves kids like that. Right. So
that attracted me to read further. So I
was reading about Islam as well. Then I
was trying to teach her as well at the
same time. To cut a long story short,
she had to move back home. She was
teaching. She had to move back home. She
was studying and she had to move back
home, get married. You know what
happens. And uh she calls me after like
a year or something and I'm like what's
going on? You know, my dad picks up the
phone, gives me the phone and what does
she say? She says, "Andreas,
I want to say something to you. Don't
want to really want to speak to you." I
was like, "Wow, what's going on here? I
want to let you know that I'm wearing
the hijab and I'm praying five times a
day."
Amazing, huh? Isn't that amazing?
It moves me too, bro. It moves me too.
It was It was beautiful. It was
beautiful like a a non-Muslim, a
disbeliever could facilitate someone's
guidance. And then she put the phone
down and then that shocked me. Took me
way back. Boom. It's like a big right
hand like the one you gave me earlier.
Yeah. It's like a big right hand. And
I'm like, "Wow, what am I going to do
now? What am I going to do with my
life?" Because it made it real. It
wasn't just abstract ideas. It was like
it affected a human being in a profound
way. So I started to pray and I remember
praying and I
You had taken the show? Oh, I'm not a
Muslim,
but I'm praying, bro. And I'm doing
saga. I remember a college kid and now
he's a doctor. He's one of the best
doctors and he's a wrestler as well in
England. He used to train the English
team. His name is Dr. Amir, one of the
beautiful brothers I met in my life.
And Dr. Amir would come to college and
he'd be one of those distinct Muslims
that would worship the creator, not the
creation. It' be very unique. And I
looked up to him and he said, you know,
when we're in saga, frustration, just
like Jesus in the Bible, and he says he
put his face on the floor, that's how
you pray to God.
Absolutely.
That's how we pray.
And he said, "When you're like this,
you're closer to your Lord."
And that's what I could remember from
him. And that's why when Muslims when
they're listening to this, don't
belittle to the one word that you say to
people. It could affect someone for the
rest of their life. So I'm in saga and
I'm screaming.
I'm screaming to God. I'm like, "Help
me." So what's this? I was like
literally treating God like he's just
like, you know, I'm talking to someone
in front of me. What's up, man? Help me.
I don't know what's going on. Help me.
And then I'm keep on praying. I keep on
praying. I go to Greece. I go to Holl to
see my granddad and I have a Quran with
me and I learn fat in Arabic.
Now, when you were screaming, you were
you were was it a screaming of guidance?
You were like, "Of course." What were
of course I just wanted to know the way.
You wanted to know the way.
I wanted to know the way. I said, "Look,
God, you've always been in my life. I've
never really rejected you." I used to
even use the word Allah when I was
walking down the street and needed help
in my life. Said, "Ya Allah, if you are
Allah, whoever you are, just help me."
So when I was in sen frustration, I was
screaming out to him for guidance, for
help. I want to know the way. Okay.
You you see now things are transpiring.
Do you see the way it's he's
facilitating a way? You
Well, this what h well now I see he was
facilitating me. But at the time I still
was like I'm really frustrated. I go to
Greece. I don't dance this time. I don't
drink the alcohol this time. I don't
stay up late this time. I'm at home
reading an English translation of the
Quran. I'm learning how to recite
Arabic. I learn the first chapter of the
Quran. I learned the 112th chapter of
the Quran. I'm learning chapters in
Arabic.
And it continues
real quick. Real quick just the that you
said the first chapter define it in
English.
The first chapter is sort of which means
the opening and it's the chapter we use
is necessary for our prayers and that's
and that's the chapter. So we say it
starts off by saying alhamdulillah
all grateful thanks and praise is due to
the lord of everything that exists the
creator not Jesus not man not creation
not a stone not a book not a wall not a
pope but the creator okay so I learned
that in Arabic and I started to pray
even more I came back to England and I
start praying then I gave up existential
crisis which means what it it means to
exist I just had a crisis and I was just
in my own depressed moment mode. Then
you remember that guy I was talking to
you about, that Bengodi kid,
the boat. Yeah. You're the one that you
wanted to be.
He knocks on my door on a Friday,
October the 4th, 2002. And he says to
me, sitting in my car, I know you know
the truth. I gave you the booklet. You
remember that booklet, Faith and
Progress, Islam's the truth, proof of
God, proof of creator. He said, "This
the truth and you know." And I was like,
"Yeah, I do know, but I can't be Muslim.
It's not here yet." So what did he do?
He gave me an amazing story on death. I
can't even describe.
Every soul is going to taste death. The
Quran says and it was such an amazing
story, amazing narrative, imagery. I
don't even remember it, but I remember
the effect. It was 2:00 in the morning.
I went back home and all of a sudden
everything I knew abstractly,
intellectually came straight here. And
October the 1st, 2002, I took a taxi to
the central mosque. There was 50
brothers there. And I took my shahada.
My first prayer was dar and I didn't
need no one to teach me because Allah
already helped me.
You already learned how to pray.
Amazing. Amazing. We'll be right back
with more with the rest of the story
here on the Dean Show.
Islam privates killing of innocent human
beings. Human life is precious.
This is the danger.
This is the danger. This is the angel.
This is the danger.
This is the Dean Show.
Back here on the Dean Show and we're
talking to our brother, our Greek
brother who didn't become an Arab. He is
a Muslim, still Greek. And it's amazing.
You accepted Islam the same way that
Jesus lived. Jesus lived Islam, didn't
he?
Yes, he did.
Jesus submitted to the will of God.
That's Islam. So did Moses, Abraham, and
all the messengers of God, including the
last and final messenger of Prophet
Muhammad, peace be upon him. They were
teaching us how to get to paradise, how
to get the pleasure of God, how to
worship God. And now you decided to do
that. You took the declaration of faith.
Now the shahada, what did that entail?
Well, the shahada is that you witness
that there is no deity worthy of worship
but God, Allah. And interestingly,
linguistically, the word the name Allah
is genderless and cannot have a plural.
And Allah some linguists in the Islamic
tradition say is al which means the
deity. So there's no deity worthy of
worship apart from the deity the true
deity the true god and you witness I
bore witness that Muhammad upon whom be
peace is his last and final messenger.
That's the same testimony the swearing
to if you were living during the time of
Jesus.
Yes.
You'd have to make that same uh
testimony, right? You'd have to declare
that there's nothing worthy of worship
except the creator in Arabic. Allah in
Aramaic. Allah.
Exactly.
And then Jesus is the messenger of God.
Right.
So you didn't do anything different.
Oh, not just that. I accepted reality.
Like for example, say, "Oh, that's a
really nice jacket, Eddie." That's
accepting reality. It's a nice jacket.
Islam is accepting reality. Cuz some
people think, you know, there's going to
be fireworks and angels and the whole
universe is going to crumble when you
take the declaration of faith. But when
I speak to you, I'm like, "Look, you
already know. It's in your nature.
you've been committed in your mind just
accept reality. And that's what I did. I
accepted the reality that there is truly
no deity worthy of worship but God. And
Muhammad upon him beast is his final
messenger. There's no other explanation.
Now, if someone is just okay, they turn
in late at night and they see us and you
know they have that void and they're
listening but then they fall back into
the many pitfalls. You know again I talk
about you know the movies, the music,
the things that just warps the mind. You
get in the car, you go to bed, wake up
to music, wake up to move. Everything is
just, you know, entertainment. But why
is this so important to think about this
reality, you know, because when we die,
it's finished. You can't come back. You
can't once the test is over, then it's
hellfire. Is that right? Y
that's the warning that all the messages
came with the warning. Avoid the
hellfire and paradise.
Paradise is for forever, eternal
happiness, bliss. I mean, why is I mean,
why you you mentioned that your the
Muslim friend, he mentioned death. Did
that snap you out of it? Of course he
did because the way he mentioned it and
I don't even remember what he said. It
was so poetic the way he described
I remember him saying something like
imagine I just stabbed you right now and
then he described the whole process
people that you love your family friends
and everything just became so real. So
what the Quran does is it's a it's a
realistic book. It's a psychological
book. He wants to make reality appear to
you in front of your face. This is why
you know Allah God in the Quran he tries
to dismantle our own egos and arrogance
because our ego and arrogance is the
barrier to God isn't it?
Yeah.
And like and the way the Quran does this
is by saying you're going to be woret
you're going to be in your graves. Wake
up. You think you're going to last
forever. You're going to take over the
world. You think you're you're the king
of kings. And also the Quran says
remember where you came from. You were
despised fluid. You were a baby. You
couldn't even clean your own bottom. You
could even feed yourself. And now you're
arrogant. You think you can match the
mountains in height?
You think you're self-sufficient.
Exactly. And that's that's and self the
the act of self-sufficiency, the state
of self-sufficiency
is a barrier to Islam. Now, I want to
tell people though, say you're listening
to this message and you listen to
brother Eddie or you've read something
nice on internet, you have Muslim
friends and and you like this tradition
of Islam. You accept it's the truth, but
you think, "I'm still going to the club.
I'm still doing this. I'm still doing
that. I'm not worthy."
Never never ever despair of the mercy of
Allah of God. This is one of Shayan's
Satan's tricks. He wants to make you
think that you're not worthy to now
accept this tradition or not you're not
worthy to pray or you're not worthy to
repent to Allah. Allah says, "Oh,
oh my believing servants, do not despair
of the mercy of God for he forgives all
sins." And he even says, "Despairing is
an act of the disbeliever. Only the
disbelievers despair." So if you want to
be that believer, you know, you
shouldn't be in a state of despair that
God always wants U-turns. He allows
U-turns. He wants you back all the time,
you know, and that's what happens
sometimes. And it happened to me, you
know, you be watching, reading something
nice, then you go back into your old
ways and you think, "I'm not worthy to
go back." No, God wants you back.
Doors always open.
Always openage to the time of death.
Tell tell us now. We're almost out of
time. So I want I have a few more points
that I want to cover for the person that
had a bad experience, you know, and they
start to put all religions in the same
boat. They say, "Look, I don't want to
follow an organ organized religion
organized by man or men and and then
they go and take a psych what was a
philosophy class in college and then
they just, you know, they just leave it
all. They paint them all the same brush
and they put Islam in this bucket saying
it's all man-made. What do you have to
say?"
Well, the first thing is that people
have to read the Quran. That's the
number one point. This is our basis.
This is our premise. This is our
assumption. this is our foundation and
it's justified because we know it's true
because the Quran challenges the whole
of mankind. You find me a book that
intellectually challenges mankind very
brave from that perspective. In chapter
2 verse 23 the Quran says
which means and if you're in doubt you
took a philosophy 101 class you're an
atheist agnostic you don't believe in in
religion it's dogma what does the Quran
say if you are in doubt about this book
which we have sent down to our servant
referring to the prophet Muhammad upon
whom he peace bring one chapter like it
one chapter the shortest chapter
Al Kelar chapter al Kelar three lines
and no one has been able to challenge
this book as professor Abbus not says
although several attempts have been made
to challenge the Quran none have yet
succeeded and even western linguists and
academics like professor Bruce Lawrence
from Juke University in his book the
Quran a biography he says on page number
eightquranic verses as tangible signs
are expressive of inexhaustible truth
they signify meaning layered within
meaning, light upon light, miracle after
miracle. Professor Dr. Martin Zamit from
the Netherlands, he says,
"Notwithstanding pre-Islamic poetry, the
Quran is the most eminent written
manifestation of the Arabic language."
We have Professor Neil Robinson who
converted to Islam as a result of
understanding the Quran, reading it and
knowing it's a literary and linguistic
miracle that cannot be challenged. in
his book the discovering the Quran a
contemporary approach to a veiled text
in the chapter called the dynamic style
of the Quran he says the Quran is
amazing as a dynamic style that no one
no one can reproduce and no other
classical Arabic text can achieve what
the Quran achieves linguistically
can we make it even more simple for the
people now because they'll say that look
all religions you know all people they
claim you know if you don't believe in
this you're going to hell but really
when you investigate it there's only two
it's Christianity and Islam Correct me
if I'm wrong. And when you in
investigate the claim that let's say our
brothers in humanity make, the
Christians, they'll say, "If you don't
believe in Jesus, your Lord and Savior,
you're going to hell." When you
investigate it, Jesus never said that.
Yes,
he never said this. And when you
investigate it further, you see that he
never claimed he was God. He never said
he's come and died for the sins of the
world. So, but when you look in the
Quran, doesn't the creator say
that look, if anyone chooses
other than submission to the will of God
is a way of life, it'll never be
accepted? And this is clear. You can go
verify it.
Yes, you can.
Is that true?
Can it's in the Quran. And what's
interesting about the Christian claim of
our beloved human beings,
brothers in humanity, is that they say
the Bible is the word of God as we know
it today. And they say that Jesus made
these claims. But both of these things
you can't verify. We have 7,000 New
Testaments
in historical record, and none of them
agree with one another. And it's in
Greek. I know Greek. I' I've read some
of them myself. They don't. None of
them. Not one of them agree. So we don't
know what Bible we're talking about.
We don't have no originals.
No, we don't have no originals.
We don't have a copy of a copy of a copy
of anything original.
Bible scholars tell us this, right?
Dr. Bruce Meza, for example, when he was
talking about the textual integrity of
the Bible, says we don't know what's
going on here, dude. As simple as that.
As simple as that.
As simple as that. With the Quran, I
remember I mentioned earlier Angelica
Neith, a scholar. She's from, she wrote
the book or she edited the book, The
Cambridge Companion to the Quran. is
what we have today is what we have 1400
years ago from the mouth of the prophet
Muhammad upon whom be peace we have all
the scholarship agreeing on this issue
so one we know it's preserved it's a
linguistic and literary miracle and
therefore we know it's from God because
it can't come from an Arab they failed
to challenge it can't come from a
non-Arab can't come from Muhammad upon
whom he peace because he didn't have any
linguistic skills like the Arabs did at
that time therefore it must be from God
so the point is if God says if you don't
accept this way of life you're going to
hell you should wake us up
should we should at least look into it
take up the challenge.
Exactly.
Because what do we got at the end?
Death. Then it's too late.
Exactly.
But if we submit to what God wants us to
do, we got paradise and we avoid the
hell for amazing era.
Yes.
Tell us real quick in brief how people
can get a hold of you.
The Islamic Education Research Academy.
We've launched in England in the Canada.
We're going to go global soon inshallah.
And basically we want to call people to
the way of allahel to the way of the
prophet Muhammad upon whom be peace. And
we're dedicating giving non-Muslims the
call to Islam. And we train Muslims on
how to give da. We got literature and
leaflets and products. ier.org.uk.
Check us out
real quick. We got 30 seconds. And the
person is doing like you. He agrees that
none should be worshiped except the
creator and not his creation. And he
agrees that Muhammad is the last and
final messenger. He looked into the six
articles of faith, the five pillars of
Islam. Really clear-cut, simple. And
he's lost like that. Nobody's given him
the invitation. Tell him right now he
wants to accept Islam. What you got to
do? Well, all you have to do is just say
the following words and believe it in
your heart with conviction and
certainty.
I bear witness there is there is no
deity worthy of worship but Allah but
God and I bear witness that Muhammad
upon whom be peace is his final
messenger. This is Islam pure simple.
You don't need to
you're Muslim now. Say it in Greek. He
wants to know in Greek now for the
Greek. How do you translate this in
Greek?
In Greek.
Go ahead.
Wasallam or prophetist to Allah. So
there is no God other than Allah God.
And the prophet Muhammad upon whom he
peace is his prophet.
That's it. Thank you very much. Thank
you very may God almighty the creator
reward you.
Good to see you bro. We'll hear you back
again inshallah soon.
And it's that simple. It's that easy.
It's not meant to be complicated.
Worship the creator, not his creation.
And God sent the last and final
messenger,
Muhammad, peace be upon him. The same
way if you're living during the time of
Jesus. We said you got to follow his
teachings. But Muhammad is the last and
final messenger. Ask God to guide you.
That's the first step. And he'll
facilitate a way. He'll facilitate a
way. Parting all day, chasing your lust
and desire is not going to bring you
happiness. No, it won't. But submitting
to God, doing God's will will bring you
happiness. You'll have peace,
contentment, you'll have the best in
this life and the best in the hereafter.
Yeah, life is a challenge. But when you
got God on your side, you can overcome
those challenges. And for every
hardship, God will reward you. And
you'll be doing something that's
pleasing to God. And then you'll get the
reward from God. And you'll avoid the
hellfire and you'll attain the paradise.
Give us a call 1800662 Islamab to learn
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