asalam alikum greetings of peace I'm
really enjoying talking with this week's
special guest
Dr Jonathan Brown if you guys were with
us last week you got to hear the
interview that we're going to continue
on with this week we're talking about
the new atheism you know many people get
caught up in the Trap monkey see monkey
do and they think okay this guy's an
academic
why would he be agnostic we don't
believe there's something anything is a
true atheist everyone deep down inside
believes and we talked about the
research that was done proving this by
academics and he's an academic he
accepted the true purpose of life
founded in this beautiful way of life so
why don't we continue on with the rest
of the interview with Dr Jonathan Brown
on this week's show enjoy
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sound this is
the this is the is
the is
the this is
the this is the
the this is a amazing a French
philosopher had said that we have
found over time civilizations that were
without science or Arts but none of them
without religion and we see that through
through we're not talking about people
now um because obviously in Islam that
complet complete submission to the
Creator it's pure monotheism only
worshiping the Creator not the creation
and you have people uh if not worshiping
the Creator they end up worshiping maybe
a abstract idea maybe dictators uh a
government a system like you know
communism whatever the case but what do
you think you know when someone has to
as they confirm that disbelief is
acquired it's something that you have to
work hard to fight against and nowadays
you see many Muslims monkey see monkey
do they'll have the professor they'll
walk into a class and this guy's very
intelligent and think how can someone be
so intelligent and he's an agnostic or
an atheist and then Muslims get caught
into this trap and and then now they
start to you know go towards arguing
Darwinism and you know what what what do
you have you been in these experiences
and talk to someone who's maybe having a
yeah I mean I think it's just it's very
people need to understand that reason is
not a an independent tool right so it
has to be anchored uh either um you know
anchored From Below or anchored from
above and you uh what that mean I mean
it's it's sort of like political parties
I mean you can find really intelligent
become Democrats really intellig people
become Republicans I mean it doesn't
obviously if
intelligence was a faculty that if it
was you know the more intense the more
the stronger it is the more likely it is
to lead to certain uh conclusion then
you wouldn't have people going Divergent
dire directions so uh you know is is it
just I me it's difficult because we're
sort of taught to say oh this person's
really intelligent therefore what
they're saying must be correct
actually that's not true at all um in
any way people can be extremely
intelligent and then they decide that
they want to murder and you know
eliminate entire race you they can be in
like James Bond villains that always
these super Geniuses like I need to
destroy the entire human race so that I
I mean so the point is that intelligence
doesn't uh lead you to truth
intelligence leads you to if you know if
you're rational it means that you can
follow a uh a chain of a sequence of of
cause and effect very accurately but if
the either the original premise of that
sequence is wrong or any premise that
you insert in there at a certain place
is wrong then you're going to end up
with a wrong result so that I think this
is very important you know that you that
students understand this um uh and that
that intelligence is very different from
being correct on issues of of
metaphysics or issues of Truth so that
that's I certainly uh try to get uh uh
people to understand that uh one of the
direct results I think of people turning
away from from Faith from God from
having that connection their heart
connecting to the Creator is what we've
seen not too long ago in Tokyo when you
had the stock stock market bust you had
people who had Millions jumping off of
buildings but here I mean what do we see
like uh the antithesis here we see when
people actually have a connection with
the Creator at times like I was sharing
my story you know with the toe I mean
thank God it wasn't something worse but
we have an anchor we have a reference
point that we go to that it can always
be worse you know there's always light
at the end of the tunnel I mean what
what what do you tell when you have a
heart-to- heart with someone who's going
down that road what hope does a person
have at the end of the day do you just
become dust do you die you just go to
sleep it's finished you know uh and and
this is can this be now this is the
direct result people jumping off
buildings cuz all hope is
loss you know for example um now and
this is kind of a silly example but it
always comes into my mind remember when
I was in I was in my visiting my friend
in Las Vegas and uh went to this um
block party you know on his block and
there was this woman there and she was
saying you know I can't be religious cuz
you know my cat died and you know why
would God kill my cat and I mean I don't
actually I I understand that because you
know I I used to we used to have cats
and I love those cats I mean they were
my my friends and I I love them dearly
uh but I think what this is a great
example she's saying you know I can't
but this pain for her and this loss was
so significant that she
couldn't cons she couldn't accept that
that somehow some some God would allow
this to happen yeah now um I I think one
of the you often find this uh in in kind
of weird popular versions of
Christianity that there's this notion
that the world is something is wrong
with the world and so um you have to
believe in God in order to compensate
for that so for example you have to
believe in the Redemptive power of Jesus
because Jesus has come to fix the world
so for Muslims you don't believe
anything's wrong with the world this is
the cat didn't die because something's
wrong that's what happens I mean animals
die human beings die cats run into the
street and get hit by cars people run
into the street and get hit by cars this
is the sun this is the sun of Allah this
is the way that God's creation works
there's disease people get disease they
die from the disease people try to find
cures for disease sometimes they do
sometimes they don't this is what
happens this is exactly what God has
planned for us and uh either these
things are these things are tests for us
they're tests if your my mother died God
Rest her soul she died of a brain
aneurism in uh when she was in Ethiopia
now I could get upset about that and say
oh if only she hadn't been in the High
Altitude Adis ABA she wouldn't have had
this Blain aneurism she wouldn't have
died you know I'm so Ang you know so
angry about this but you know know that
this is what God God uh uh took her this
was written this had to happen Okay um
and you know instead of getting angry
about that upset about that this is a
test for me I said alhamdulillah thank
God that I had my mother in my life
thank God that she you know had her her
life thank God that you know she guided
me in certain ways thank God I mean you
don't think about what you've lost you
think about what you were blessed with
um and you think that it is always God
gave us life God gave us um things he he
can also take these things away from us
as a test and that you fail the test
when you become angry and ungrateful the
like the root of kufur as I'm sure you
know kafur in PR Islamic Arabia Arabic
is actually ingratitude so kufur is
ingratitude ingratitude ultimately and
so when you fail the test is when you
become when you you hurl these things
back at God I'm ungrateful why did you
do this why did you take this from me um
God takes things from us because this is
the sun of Allah and our job is to uh
not to uh to become ungrateful but to
still say alhamdulillah and when you do
that it's not just be you're not just
passing the test in God's eyes you're
actually happier as a person you're not
going around angry all the time always
um always angry at the
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now uh tell me uh Dr Brown what was it
for you for me for example you know I
came to a point in my life and I I
really had experien many of the Finer
Things in life there was a empty void I
started searching and looking and really
using the gift of of intelligence that
God Almighty gave us and and at the same
time you know inside yearning to want to
be guided and I started to look the
different religions and uh in short what
I loved about Islam was all the the
authenticity of it uh its preservation
uh when I looked at just a basic book
like brief Illustrated guide to
understanding Islam it has a lot of the
different quotes from the Quran on
science about the human development from
the early stages of the embryo the
mountains I was fascinated and then some
of the the things that uh from the way
of the Prophet muhammmad that he had
talked about and I was just amazed it it
wasn't anything that now it was
unbelievable the message was just to
believe in one God worship him alone the
day of judgment that fascinated me what
was it about Islam that had you
fascinated and now you're living it here
with purpose
today uh so when I first learned about
Islam I learned about it in you know
class in University um and I learned I
really learned about it through the
books of Muhammad Assad read his book
the message of the qur sorry the the
road to Mecca I read this translation of
the Quran the message of the Quran and
so I really learned about it from a very
um I would say um sort of modernist and
rationalist perspective and that that's
not in any way a criticism um but I mean
is that uh you know he has his own
perspective on Islam and on the Quran
but I think that's uh for me and I mean
to this day I I still um I I I believe
this but you know I think like you it
was about um you know i' taken a class
on
the Old Testament um and I just said
this is I just I mean this is a great
book it's obviously very interesting but
there's just no way I'm ever going to
believe this I mean as a religion I mean
it's just no this is so inauthentic this
just so historically on non- intact how
could I ever base my my belief on I need
something that is intact I need I mean
if you're going to start asking
questions about what a book means at
least you have to know the book is
intact so the first thing you know is
the the the intact nature of the Quran
um and then uh the fact that you know
human beings are supposed to use their
reason they're not supposed to uh
believe in things because they're
irrational or believe in things because
they are you know
outrageous um you know like Pascal said
and then you know bled Pascal died 1662
and earlier uh St St Augustine died 1430
you know 430 ad you know this idea that
I believe because it's absurd I believe
something because it's absurd sometimes
we can believe things that are absurd
and that absurdity doesn't mean that
they're untrue that's fine um but you
don't I don't think you should believe
things because they're absurd right so
you you should be led to belief by
reason and then once you're you your
belief is confirmed or your belief is
set then you need to re recognize it
just because certain let's say
consequences or certain um things that
might unfold from that may seem absurd
that doesn't invalidate the original
belief but I don't think you believe in
things because they're absurd so I think
that really kind of the the historical
intactness of the Quran and then the the
urge to use reason uh was really drew me
towards they struck me as being a
fundamentally human uh requirements for
belief it it reminds me of a lot of
people uh you mentioned the theology
class or on the Bible um many people
quote nii is it he also took a theology
class came out of it was like this stuff
doesn't make sense and went towards uh
uh acquiring
uh agnosticism or atheistism there's a
quote that people they love to uh quote
him I think is is God Is Dead uh and
there's two interpretations I heard to
this it's possibly he meant it for him
or the people around him his his people
at that time had gone away from yeah
well I think what he meant I mean
obviously nii is a very uh you know
profound and uh sometimes unsystematic
uh writer uh but I I think what he meant
is that I think the full quote is you
know uh God is dead I think we we have
we ourselves have killed him or
something I think it's the original
quote is a guy is talking about reading
a newspaper and the headline is God Is
Dead this is we ourselves have killed
him I can't remember the exact context
of the quote but I think what he meant
is that
um European Society in the late
1800s had already move Beyond a belief
kind of a Christian belief in God it was
that that that belief was in effect
obsolete for that Society uh that that
Society had killed God and that um you
know for nii that wasn't
necessarily um I mean that's not in and
of itself bad it just means that people
need to come to terms with the moral
universe that they are created for
themselves and if you sort of if you
live in a post if you don't really
believe in God anymore and you continue
to live in this world where you have God
uh but you're not really living
according to that then you there's this
sort of internal contradiction and uh
hypocrisy that is going to there's this
dissonance in your worldview that is
going to uh uh hobble you that is going
to prevent you from moving forward so he
wanted to kind of super supersede that
that post that sort of early postmodern
or you know late modern uh 19th century
worldview I I think that so uh when he
says
God is dead I think what he's saying is
that modern and then postmodern European
Western
Civilization uh yes it killed its belief
in God and that's true I mean uh but you
know you don't that doesn't mean that
that just means that's the the belief of
a certain Society it doesn't make it
true or untrue yeah I have no doubt if
he would have walked in and took a
theology class of the basics of this
Universal message of Peace acquired by
submission to the Creator not the
creation and he would he would have
learned of the pure monotheism of Islam
original goodness you know I often make
this example if you got a computer and
it was full of
viruses uh you wouldn't stand uh uh to
uh be happy with that so the concept of
us being born with a stigma attached to
us this doesn't make sense to the human
being nor worshiping a human being other
than God but when you talk about
worshiping only the one who created
created Jesus Moses Abraham not the Sun
not the moon nothing in creation but the
one who created creation doing the best
that you can be to be the utmost and
righteous person and then the concept of
accountability day of judgment something
about this pure Message of Islam it just
resonates with the heart connects with
the heart and I believe that if people
like him at his time and people today if
they would give Islam a shot and sit
back humbly earnestly looking at it
sincerely that they would also recognize
it as the truth what are your
thoughts I think
that uh nii would not be become Muslim
if he learned about basic Islam come on
now no no but I I the reason I think
that is if he was sincere now if he was
sincere and he and he I think I think
that if you took nii as a child and put
him on the island he would be he would
be monthe you probably know much more
about him than people I mean by the time
people are let's say in their M their
their their teenagers or their their
early 20s I mean they've already the the
a lot of their background beliefs are
very firmly set and and sometimes they
they can change those beliefs uh but the
power of custom and the power of of
convention I mean what did the people
the the people who hear about the
message of Islam from the prophet what
did they say you know we did not find
our forefathers doing this you know why
Americans wear shoes in the the house
it's ridiculous to wear shoes in the
house I mean think about it you walk
outside you step in dog poo you walk
into your house but you know sometimes
you read you watch people when they
Americans when they talk about you
orientals taking their shoes off this is
Oriental custom it's actually a really
intelligent thing to do but people don't
want to give up what they're used to
people the power of custom the power of
culture is so strong it's so strong and
um even if it's irrational even if it's
baseless so uh you know when you look at
thought I mean I think he was so
fundamentally believed in the that it
was human beings who create meaning and
that uh human beings have to kind of
rebel
against the gods Rebel for against the
Divine and that's how they create
meaning I I think that he that was so
stuck in his mind that I don't think
that he could ever have beli believed in
a religion that was about submission
because for him submission was
fundamentally uh uh if you're being
tricked into submitting if you were
submitting you being tricked into
submitting and uh that so I I think that
I don't want to sit and talk about nii
too much because one I'm not a nii
specialist too that's not the point of
this discussion but I mean that I think
that to to make a maybe better point
which is that uh if someone believes it
submission is in and of itself
unacceptable then you can never get them
to to submit I mean no matter what you
tell them they're submitting to but what
what about if somebody cuz we know
there's hindrances obstacles to
connecting with God one is your desires
right another one can be imitation of
society right another one arrogance is a
key but if someone might have had a
Calamity in their life now they've been
humbled for whatever reason and they
earnestly at that point they realize you
know what I'm not truly self-sufficient
and they truly like deep down inside
they called upon God alone and they were
like really trying to let's let's remove
some of the obstacles any person be it
an agnostic an atheist whoever's out
there whatever Professor no matter what
you know uh class they come from if that
human being now sincerely wanted to know
the truth and within themselves at that
moment whatever you know we all have
those moments but like you you you
mentioned kids you know work everything
you know clouds the vision clouds the
mind you're just you know trying to U
rise that ladder to the top of whatever
an you know wherever you're at but if
that person is being sincere with them
themselves with
God would they find what they're looking
for in Islam and would God guide them if
they were sincerely asking because I ask
many people I say look have you ever
thought about the purpose of life have
you ever even asked the Creator for
guidance and if they did that wouldn't
God of at his Mercy guide
them um you get the question yeah I do I
mean I think God guides who who whoever
God wants to guide uh that's I mean so I
can't say that God would always do this
or do that uh but I would say that I
think the most dominant one of the most
dominant features of a human being is
it's the human power to forget I mean if
you think about I mean this is also
Doctor Who episode that talks about that
but I mean the the point is that uh you
know you um how is it that you take a
human being you uh he this human being
is you know on an airplane the airplane
starts jumbling about the person calls
out to God
sincerely and says you know please God
say if I if I'm saved from this I'll
believe in I'll search for the truth
I'll do whatever you you ask of me and
he's saved and the person immediately
just thinks either doesn't think about
ever again or says oh well the plane was
going to land anywhere I was just you
know so the point is that people forget
all the time they willingly forget they
willingly dismiss uh their experience
and um that's one of the features that
the Quran talks about human beings are
forgetful they're always forgetting yes
and uh that forgetfulness is um you know
allows people to
continue uh even after they've had maybe
proof of of of the truth or experience
with the truth and uh what I think sets
apart people who who accept guidance is
the ones who uh who don't forget at
least long enough to to accept the
guidance that's given to them
uh so again some people think it's
always about reason and and whether some
sincere or something but a lot of times
it's just people forget yeah people are
always forgetful what reminds me um when
you look back and you look at
om if you look at KH if you look
at he was on his way to no that was Omar
he was he um uh was going to kill the
prophet peace be upon him so imagine how
much hate you have there Umama IB he was
an Enemy of the State he also he was uh
the leader of um one of the tribes at
that time and he also had tried to kill
the prophet peace be upon him and he had
said I had never hated anyone as much as
as I hated you I had never hated a
religion as much as you he was a hater
he turned into a lover so my point is
these people they try to kill the
prophet muham peace be upon him but what
they once can you imagine he's tied up
in the mosque kumama he's hearing the
dawa he's getting to hear the pure
Message of Islam what's going through
when when people actually when they
clear these prejudices these biases and
they get to sit sincerely and hear the
pure message because of what we have
this fitra right so my point is what are
your thoughts on that when you know if
because somebody now is a professor God
guides him to watch the dean show uh I'm
trying to to spread that message of of
Hope for everybody you know and give a
shot a try because you're an academic
you gave it a shot a try you're here
with us today on the dean show I mean I
I think that uh I would hope that people
um you know ask themselves uh and this
is some the question that I asked myself
when I learned about Islam is it um do
you are you looking for
truth um if you find the truth will you
follow it if you're not looking for
truth then who cares whatever go your
way uh if you don't care if you find the
truth you're rather continue with what
you're doing and don't want to bother
yourself okay then it's fine but if you
are looking for the truth and if you
will find it when you see
it then be serious about that you know
um follow that logically don't think
about how much it's going to hurt or how
much um means you change your lifestyle
or something like that you know follow
the truth if if you want if you seek the
truth and if you'll follow it where you
find it
than um than do so and that's I think
what you when you see that the the Arabs
the time of the Prophet their their
culture was this very I mean it had a
lot of problems but it was really a very
um a direct culture uh people didn't
Cloud their decisions um a lot so you
know if they believed something they did
that if they didn't believe something
they didn't do it right I mean uh you
know that's why people would know come
to the you see they come to the prophet
and they would exper some and say I
believe you now and then they would
follow the prophet so they you know of
course you had you know Hypocrites and
there are people who who who who later
their belief faltered but I mean when
you a lot of the Arabs in the time of
the Prophet they they make these
decisions that are really you know if I
if someone convinces me something's true
I'm going to follow them and then they
do that yeah they don't say someone
convin me the truth I'm going to follow
them and then they're like yeah but you
know I really have you know I need to go
back home and you know I've cook my
dinner and stuff like that so they're
they're very direct uh in their decision
which is something that is admirable a
couple more questions we're almost out
of time someone is watching the dean
show um you know they're connecting with
you you're a professor you know they're
searching for meaning in life purpose in
life you know they they like this
message of U they've investigated a
little bit more the the worshiping the
Creator not the creation the full system
of Islam helping you to develop to be a
the best human being possible they hear
a lot of derogatory things against Islam
they keep hearing this I mean uh radical
Islam being thrown out there I say
there's no such thing as radical Islam
uh Isis you hear Donald Trump you know
people having a certain agenda using is
Islam Now to create fear and Division
and and the person says look Dr Jonathan
Brown why is all the chaos in the
world violence attributed to Islam and
they're scared of it what do you I tell
them it's very simple I mean look don't
just because people say stuff a lot
doesn't make it true I mean it's I know
that's sounds obvious to say but if you
think about it you know people say stuff
so I mean I remember one time I was on
the airplane a couple years ago this guy
gets on the airplane with a big beard I
got scared I mean you're like you know I
mean I was like God I'm a Muslim and I
got how can I the point is that you know
even if you know something when people
when it IT surrounds you constantly it
becomes like truth to you and you people
have to know that they have to resist it
and just and you you have to just sit
down sit back and ask yourself what's
actually happening okay if you actually
look at the world I mean you know this
Physicians for social responsibility did
a study about two years ago about a year
and a half ago you know how many people
have died since because of the war on
terror I think there I think it was 15
million people I mean since since 911 if
I I hope I'm quoting this correctly
Physicians for social responsibility you
can find the report online if I'm wrong
somebody correct me I'm just off top of
my head about 15 million people have
died since the I mean the the you know
every day like on uh Dowry killings in
India every year in Delhi or in India
there's like some five or five to 7
thousand women are killed in dowy
killings uh in by in in Hindu Indians no
one even knows about that in the United
States all they hear about is honor
killings there more honor there's more
honor killings in one you know in one
day in Delhi amongst Hindus then all the
Muslims you I challenge you to find all
data on honor killing in Muslim
countries in one day in Deli there's
probably more dowy
killings um than in the Muslim uh
population in the the world in that time
frame so uh what my point is that
people they don't they they they hear so
much about Muslims and violence Isis and
all this stuff you look at the number of
people Isis I don't like Isis okay I
don't support Isis um you know there's
lots of things they do that are
absolutely unacceptable
but if you look at the number of people
let's say that the Egyptian government
now has in prison number of people that
the Egyptian government killed since the
coup of 2013 I mean you're talking about
thousands and thousands of civilians you
know maybe dozens of thousands of people
in prison are wrongly being tortured and
raped in prison I mean is you know what
what's the difference between that and
Isis really I mean you know you're
talking about governments or or
organizations that kill thousands of
innocent people imprison or or torture
thousands of innocent people but no one
thinks about here is how bad Isis they
don't think about other things that you
so they convinced that somehow Islam
leads to these evils but there's exactly
the same number of evils or amount of
evil being done by something that's
absolutely that's not justified by Islam
at all not even attempting to justify
itself so uh I I think this is you know
Isis exists because the United States
invaded Iraq and destroyed all the
institutions of that country and left it
a complete mess that's that's a fact
okay okay uh Isis doesn't exist because
of Islam because Islam was in Iraq
before 2003 and there was no Sunni
extremist there was no Sunni terrorism
there is no Isis before 2003 this result
this emerged in Iraq because of the
United States Invasion that's what
caused Isis Islam didn't cause Isis but
if you look at the US media it's
obsessed with getting people to talk
about is Islam the cause of Isis is Isis
because of Islam why does it do do that
because the function of media and
government is to prevent people from
actually in this case prevent from
actually reflecting on the actual causes
of this phenomenon which is United
States uh unjust
warmongering because if people sat there
and said wait a second we got Tau in
invading this country it was a total
disaster now we have this Isis business
then they might say hm maybe we
shouldn't go and invade countries the
next time we're asked by our government
to support a war uh that's not what the
kind of uh Power Elites or the military
media industrial complex wants they
don't want people thinking like that so
they have to sit and place the focus on
some other cause oh this is because of
Islam they don't want Americans actually
thinking about really cause these things
so when I when I when I I tell you know
Muslims or even non-muslims about this
is don't be Bamboozled by what you see
on TV it's very simple I mean I know
it's obvious but just because people say
stuff a lot on TV doesn't make it true
and you have to practice I mean you
really have to practice and you know I
know my wife's going to get super angry
at me for saying this but like for
example if if you believe that people
are guilty until proven innocense you
really have to stick to that I mean and
you have to practice so for example Bill
Cosby I don't know what Bill Cosby did
he may have raped all these women and if
he did that's terrible but the bottom
line is he's not been proven guilty yet
the guy has to have a trial so is as
tempting it is to just sit there and say
oh uh he's guilty of all these things no
if you believe that people are guilty
until proen innocent you have to hold
that belief
and say even if you despise somebody
even if you despise what they accused of
even if you think they're almost
certainly guilty you have to say this
person is not guilty until they've been
proven so in court of law because this
is what this is how the media function
it functions to make us forget the
processes that we have in place to
prevent us from acting on emotion like
due process like uh uh the presumption
of innocence these things are so
important uh to keep in mind last
question Tell me uh for the person now a
lot of times I mean it's very clear
Anyone who reads a verse before and
after you know for instance in in in the
Quran of ver word of God God Almighty is
saying chapter 5 verse 32 whoever kills
you know one innocent being as if you
kill the world saving one innocent life
as you save the world and so many
teachings of mercy and compassion the
one who as the prophet peace be upon him
said the one who's not merciful to God's
creation God won't be merciful to them
and this is for all of mankind but now
you have many haters out there who when
you go ahead and you try to illustrate
and show you know the mercy of Islam
what do you say you've actually written
a book Mis quoting Muhammad they will
attack and they'll say you know what
kind of prophet was they call him a
pedophile they'll quote different verses
from from the Quran on violence and
whatnot too many um uh points to cover
but there's so many misconceptions we
know there's no honor killing in Islam
there's no forc marriages all of these
things are just hogwash baloney phony
whatever Mumbo jumo but what advice do
you give from someone who's been
affected they've been affected by the
false media hype and also people you
know of hate throwing one verse out
there and now they're like bewildered oh
you guys are just sugar coating it uh uh
do you cover a lot of these things in
your book yeah I would say read my book
I'm just quing Muhammad that's why I
wrote the book one of the reasons I
wrote the
book but but what do you in a nutshell
for somebody now maybe they don't have
time they don't have time to go and
purchase the book what advice do you
give this per they like the message of P
monotheism you know they like uh the
message that Islam say that you have to
keep in mind that the world is a human
the world is a bigger place than Urban
America okay the world is a bigger place
than Daily Show audience I mean what I
mean is there there are things in the
world that you think are you are going
to think are weird and that you're not
going to like and that doesn't mean that
those things are inherently wrong it
just means that they're you're not used
to to them
like people in some parts of the world
eat dog meat Americans think eating dog
meat is absolutely
disgusting I mean you know Americans if
you serve them dog they're going to get
physically
sick like this is unnatural to eat this
but then there's other people in the
world who eat dog me they love it so
your you feeling something is revolting
doesn't mean anything it just means you
think something is revolting you've been
taught to think this is revolting it has
no proof of anything that's what I would
say to people just
don't don't just simply dismiss
something because it seems weird to you
all the time you have to look into it is
there is there really a reason that this
is wrong that I should reject this or is
it just my my preconceptions the way I'm
used to looking at the world Miss
quoting Muhammad yes where can I get the
book the bookstore no I mean I don't
know places you get books you guys know
where to get books
amazon.com so someone who wants to get a
little more uh detailed and really you
know academic really or just someone who
wants to wants answers to some of these
more yeah I mean he wants to investigate
investigate Ming Muhammad yes God bless
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