this is the
the greetings of Peace assalam alaikum
welcome to the dean show and our next
guest went through the bar mitzvah
celebrated Hanukkah Yong kapor and here
is to tell us about his journey to where
he's at today started with Judaism and
he ended up it's a surprise when we come
back many of you guessed it already
those that haven't sit tight we'll be
right back here on the dean
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the assalam alayum greetings and
peace thank you pass Stanford pass yes
yes uh we have a yes aldah we're here in
New Jersey so you're you're you were
born in New Jersey no actually I was
born in St Louis Missouri moved around
the country a lot moved to New Jersey in
1966 when I was a senior in high school
then my life became like an odyssey a
lot of traveling came back to New Jersey
uh most recently after the death of my
father may Allah shine on his grave he
he he uh he said he saw the light he saw
that Muhammad was a prophet and he saw
that that the Torah and the gospel both
came from the same one God before he
passed so uh I came up here to be with
my mother and to help her uh who also
who just passed away 3 weeks ago so I
came up here to to be near my family you
just gave away the surprise they
everybody's figured it out
already there's more surprises all right
uh Bar Mitzvah most people have no idea
what what does that mean you are bar
English when uh when a Jewish boy turns
13 he's considered a
man I guess because uh puberty setting
in in the old days and you're 13 it's
about time to get married and take a
plow and go down to the South 40 and uh
and go live your life when you're a
young teenager in the old days but now
it's a more of a a traditional symbolic
gesture where the young man is called up
to the Torah reads a portion and then
he's considered a man in the Jewish
faith you need 10 people to pray so if
he goes to the temple at the prayer time
he's considered he counts after that and
now I also mentioned the Hanukkah what
is Hanukkah Hanukkah is celebrated
around the same time as a fora
Christmas um it is not the same holiday
at all it's uh there was a battle the
makabe brothers were fighting a tyrant
um they were cornered in a place where
there was only enough oil in a lamp to
last a day and um Allah made it last 8
days so alhamdulillah that's what they
celebrate and uh but nowadays it's been
kind of degenerated into a materialistic
thing with presence to compete with what
else is going on in the world but it was
originally a holiday to celebrate a
victory uh a military victory that was a
miracle and also Yong Kapur what is this
Yong Kapur follows rosashana rosashana
is the New Year then there's 10 days of
atonement and then there's one day of
fasting yum kipur which is the day of
atonement um where the Jews stand most
of the day in the temple they fast from
the night before to the following
evening and it's the only fast in the
religion that I'm consciously aware of
uh and they're asking God to forgive him
and to be written in the Book of Life
for the coming year that was what Yung
cap is so we pretty much know that uh
Jews they end up believing in the
prophets up until Moses they fool stop
there yes they do a full stop at Moses
and then and then from there they reject
uh Jesus peace be upon him and mhamad at
best they say Jesus was a great
teacher at worst I don't even want to
mention it okay and then Muhammad they
also don't accept I don't even want to
go I mean no yeah um but these aren't
you see just like in Islam
where I'm only a 5-year revert so I
can't quote chapters and verses but I
remember some of the stories the prophet
sallallahu wasam said that there would
be
71 misguided there' be over 70 misguided
sects in Judaism Christianity and Islam
and the only straight path is the
straight is the straight way Quran and
Sunnah without Innovation so when I
first became Muslim I said oh great I
thought I was home free I became Muslim
this is it home base and they said no
this is the where you start learning
this is you have a lot to a long way to
go Jews they stop at Moses yes
Christians go ahead they elevate Jesus
to God yes and but you ended up
accepting Jesus yes and as as a Jew you
ended up you know accepting Jesus and
Muhammad and now you're Muslim today yes
I was I was in a Christian Monastery
during my search I was on a hippie Farm
I was in I did some Eastern
meditation um in my search for the truth
um when I was 14 years old two things
happened um most of the hair fell out of
me that's why I don't have a beard if I
could grow hair I'd have a beard that I
have to put in my
pocket but Allah gave me a few whiskers
since I became Muslim but I haven't
grown hair on my body since I was about
20 so uh it's encouraging though I read
that the people of Jenna have no hair so
maybe maybe I don't know Allah's he
separated me from the at when it first
happened I F it was very terrible I was
a teenager teenagers can be very tough
on you but now as you know when I grew
up and and uh became a man it became
popular to to shave your head and now as
a Muslim I it doesn't matter it doesn't
matter been married twice have two grown
sons one is Muslim the one who led me to
Islam so he accepted Islam before you
you're old about Islam but the two
things that happened when I was 14 is
one I lost all my hair two President
Kennedy was assassinated
and I was watching the TV and I saw I
could tell they were lying to us about
what happened I saw pictures that didn't
coincide with the with the story so at
that point in time I knew that something
was going on that was fishy and that
began my search for like truth what's
really going on in the world what's
really going on in life and I started
looking behind the scenes of everything
that was happening in the world and
found out that there's a reality going
on that we most people know nothing
about and the rest is an illusion that's
been created that we live in and uh when
it when I finally got to the point of
when 9/11
happened then it got to the point where
I realize the illusion even extends
to God not that he can be touched by it
but people can people can be influenced
by media by stories propaganda and so
forth
so that is very much of a reason why I
was in a position
where Allah allowed me to become Muslim
because my mind was open I wasn't into
peer pressure because of the hair I was
into finding the truth because of of
Kennedy's assassination and I wasn't
letting any fences in front of me or
peer pressure or anything stop me from
getting to where I wanted to be which
was I wanted to know why am I here why
am I alive now for a lot of people they
didn't have as as Intense or as um you
know uh heavy experiences grow gr up so
a lot of people who may have had a very
sheltered life may not may look at me
and go well you know that's good for you
when people say to me I'm glad you
finally found something in your life
that works for you it feels like I'm in
a burning
building and I found the fire escape and
I'm telling people around me there's a
fire escape right here and they're going
I'm glad you found something that works
for
you I I'm telling you it's like but you
can't all we're here to do is convey the
message Allah Knows Best
now your story doesn't stop there you
also spent before we go to break uh tell
us you also spent a some time in a
monastery yes um when I left the farm I
was hitchhiking around and I uh was in
Chicago and I uh I saw a brother a young
man uh doing some exercise on the beach
but I saw some light around him and I
said where are you from who are you and
he said I'm with this holy order so I
went back to his house with him and
where there was was like a monastery and
I didn't leave for 3 years um and I was
sent around to different places around
the country and they were teaching uh it
was called Pauline Catholic and I don't
even know what that really means I guess
because they base it on Paul and um they
were teaching uh the Christian Mysteries
so to speak
um but it was in the Trinity was
involved and I you know anyway I heard
about the eastern meditator and then I
left the mon went to do Easter
meditation got married during that time
for 21 years had two two sons so I've
been searching for the truth since I was
14 and look at us
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pass that's your last name yes and tell
us a little bit more for those people
that don't know you know about Judaism
what were some of the beliefs and why
didn't you stick with those
beliefs
well the basic belief of Judaism is the
same basic belief of Christianity and
Islam it's
monotheism uh we from the time I could
hear and understand English I heard here
o Israel the Lord our God is one when I
would go on Friday night to the temple
with my family they I'm eternally
grateful to my parents for um putting
monotheism into my into my head in my
heart at such an early age um in Judaism
there are sects as we all know in all
the religions ranging from way out
Orthodox to way out
reform so so you've got extremes on both
ends and then you've got a lot in the
middle I was raised in what they call
conservative Judaism which was kind of
Judaism American style uh Judaism kind
of watered down it it didn't practice
all the laws and my mother kept a kosher
home so that's like Halal I ate Halal
like kosher food all my life she lit the
candles on Friday night there were
celebrations at the dining room table
family was a big deal always a big deal
which is the same as in Islam but I mean
in in the original Commandments of the
Torah there's like 10 basic Commandments
and then there's like 613 other
Commandments and the priesthood of the
Jewish people during that time the
rabbis were getting really corrupted and
holding people's feet to the fire about
every little thing and really make it a
a killing on on uh sacrifices and so
forth like the money changers at the
temple that Jesus turned over over when
he came peace be upon him so when Jesus
came peace be upon him I learned he's
the last prophet to the Jews and the
Messiah of the Old Testament he wasn't
the world prophet he was the last one
that came for the Jews and that's even
explained in some places in the New
Testament a Canaanite woman comes to him
and says would you heal my daughter and
he said I just came for the Lost tribe
of Israel I didn't come for you and then
she humbles herself and says to
something and he heals her daughter by
the power of
Allah and uh
so to me Jesus peace be upon him did not
come to start a religion to me in
reality there is no such thing as
Christianity it's an illusion people
created it Jesus did not create
Christianity peace be upon him it was
created after him it was a brand it's a
money maker there were sincere people
involved but the ones who really Juiced
it and turned it into a big
business um
what can I say may Allah guide them but
in order to be Muslim it's like I didn't
renounce Moses or renounce Jesus I just
backed up and read the last chapter of
the three volume set and I and I accept
them all I accept them all and um that
doesn't mean I follow the 613
Commandments of the Old Testament when a
New Covenant is made the old Covenant is
not is not necessary anymore what I
follow now is the Quran and the sunna
which is the the updated Sharia The Ten
Commandments were Sharia the golden the
gospel was Sharia yes Sharia just means
what passage way to water the God's law
it's God's law so the God's law now is
in the Quran when people get attached to
the prophets or get attached to the book
or get attached to the religion it's
like waving the flag at summer camp my
cabin can beat your cabin it's not about
that it's about following God not
following a prophet not following a Rel
religion but following where God's
leading and God led us led me from my
from my Jewish roots which being born
Muslim of course at
first with the fitra and all but then
being raised Jewish and then going
through everything I went through was
like a loss like sped up my my just took
me around the block Allah took me around
the block and dropped me off where I
belong because I love God I've always
loved God I love the truth I've always
loved the truth and so Allah said meet
your family meet the people that are
following me that are in real time yes
that are in real time this is real time
in in in video you've got real time not
tape not you know if this was live it's
not live but real time is now right now
this
is the um of God it's the um of Muhammad
but it's the PE the Believers in the the
one God yes doing it the way he said to
do it yeah so so tell us now we know
that we as Muslims we truly want the
best for all of mankind doesn't matter
if you're a Jew watching this a
Christian whoever is out there we know
that the last and final messenger peace
be upon him we see from his tradition
even when there was a Jewish funeral and
the prophet peace be upon him he stood
up and His companion said this is a
Jewish man he said is that not a soul
right right so definitely now we also
see through history and can you explain
to us is different coming from someone
of who was formerly uh from the Jewish
background we see at the time because a
lot of this conflict this is something
new now but way back in the day didn't
Muslims when Jews were being persecuted
and we have a famous Rabbi who's out
there today he's an orthodox Rabbi Rabbi
Weiss and he talks about this and a lot
of the Orthodox rabbis they talk about
how you know the Muslims would babysit
the Jewish people's kids they fled
persecution you know the Jews and
Muslims protected them can you talk
about this and these
are I have a picture on my Facebook
wall um of a old Jewish man with the
black hat and a black coat and a beard
walking arm in hand in hand holding
hands with uh an Arab uh Palestinian
Arab wearing the the I don't know the
the the cloth on the head with the ring
around it and the thob
yeah this is what was cir
1923 all right here's what
happened World War I was going
on there were a group of German Jews who
were zionists who had immigrated from a
place called khazaria which is Eastern
Europe it was a mass conversion of of uh
who whatever they were before to Jews
they're ashkanazi Jews Eastern European
Jews all right
among those Jews there were some there
was a small group of them that were like
had to control
everything small group of them and they
still exist and they are controlling
Allah is allowing
it and these people went to England and
said to England we can help you win
World War I they were in World War I
they said we can help you win World War
I we can get the United States involved
so England says yeah
what do you
want the and the Zionist said we want
Palestine okay not as a Homeland that
the the story line is as a Homeland for
the
Jews what's really going on is something
else which I won't go into right
now
but so it was called the Bal for
declaration
1917 where England gave
Palestine to the zionists but it wasn't
theirs it's like if I gave him this
jacket this is your jacket I can't give
especially you know I can't do that I
can't take your jacket but is but
Palestine didn't have guns you see pal
is Britain had a lot more guns than
Palestine so Britain says sure we'll
give you Palestine which wasn't Theirs
to give and that was the beginning and
then all the people that I grew up
thinking Were Heroes
who built Israel were really had really
like um decimated the Palestinian
people um and and just as a footnote my
parents are good and decent people they
were in the dark they didn't know a lot
of American Jews have no idea what's
really going on so since the balfor
Declaration this whole thing about
babysitting the kids while the other
ones would go to pray and being next to
neighbors Jews and Arabs and Muslims and
Jews that
away and all of a sudden you've got you
got a a political agenda which has
nothing to do with the religion trying
ID thefting the the place called Israel
and saying this is the Jewish homeland
when in
truth semitism Semite is someone from
Southwest Asia most of the people in
Israel are from Eastern Europe they're
not from Southwest Asia if they want a
Homeland they can go to Southwest Asia
the the the semites are the Palestinians
they're
from uh that area they're from Southwest
Asia which is that whole what they call
the Middle East yeah so there's been a
tremendous bait bait and switch kind of
thing happened and it's been political
and it's got bigger it's got bigger
ramifications as we approached the hour
now when we come back we want to also
find out what actually at the end now
you went from Judaism father mother
Jewish we talked about the Hanukah bar
mitzo you did all that and now you're
actually a Muslim one who submits to the
Creator alone not the creation you
believe in Jesus Moses and the last and
final M Pro Muhammad you're a Muslim
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this incredible story of brother pass
father mother your father actually your
son first accepted Islam yes and your
father also accepted
Islam yes he did not have time in his
life to openly practice it uh he was he
was dying yeah um but he declared his
understanding and his acknowledgment and
his belief that that there is only one
God which he believed all his life and
that Muhammad truly was a prophet
sallallah alai wasam and that the Torah
and the Quran both came from the same
God you have I mean instances where many
uh Jewish Scholars one in particular uh
during the last and final messenger of
pro Muhammad's time he was one of the
chief rabbis at that time he also was
someone who was familiar you know about
the story yes yes uh so that reminds us
now that you know any sincere person
rather he be a Jew a Christian anybody I
mean who's looking for the truth as this
particular person when he saw the signs
of Muhammad he came investigated and he
was the chief Rabbi at that time and he
accepted that Muhammad peace be upon him
was the last final messenger but now for
those Jews that are out there according
because they're waiting for the Messiah
right which we believe Jesus peace be
upon them is the Messiah but now
according to the Christian description
of course they were going to reject him
because now they look at him as a
literal Son of God as a God but do you
feel now if the Jews would really look
into Islam to see the description that
we have of Jesus that they were actually
accept him and then move on to Muhammad
peace be upon him you get the point yes
I do and from my experience with
dawa what I have to say is
this you can have every fact you can
have every piece of information just
right you can present it like a champ
you can present it that would put a
smile on the prophet's face sallah alai
wasam but guidance is in the hands of
Allah but let's say there is that those
few sincere people let's describe now
what was the description of what the the
Christians are describing so now someone
if he's sincerely looking at that he's
going to reject that as aah but the
Islamic view right of what Jesus is
right right that sincere person if he's
a Jew and he's out there and he's like
this guy's Jewish I'm having some
trouble here you know what I mean yes
and I it looks like you know something's
pointing him in the Islamic Direction
right he wants to move on right so maybe
attached to his preconceived notions and
if he looks with an objective eye and an
open heart he'll see it unless Allah La
for some reason has something over his
eyes because of something that we don't
know is in his heart but if his heart is
is pure if his Tasia is clean and and
his heart is sound and his mind is
objective he will see it yeah but
unfortunately that's not common may
Allah help this to become more common my
and I again I don't know the chapters
and verses but my understanding is that
when Jesus returns peace be upon him
that the a lot of Jews will accept him
and will understand who he is I guess
you know yes something like that happens
what are you going to do you going to
say I still don't believe some may I
don't know but
um from what I understand they're going
to have an opportunity mhm and uh uh I I
I want to be part of that when I became
Muslim before I became Muslim I was a
caricature artist I used to draw
people's faces I used to make a lot of
good money doing that at parties and
things like that um when I became Muslim
they said you can't do that anymore you
can't draw faces I said well what I was
making good money when you give up
something for the sake of Allah he'll
give you something better so I moved
from the little town in Arkansa where I
lived up in the hills and I moved to
Jonesboro which was the nearest
community of Muslim Islamic Center of
Jonesboro say hey to Imam rakman Harvey
out there in
Jonesboro um I it was Arkansas State
University was there and um I that's
where I found out I could go back to
college for free because they give uh
it's called the silver scholar program
and they give free tuition to people
over 60 so I said alhamdulillah I can
finish college and show this degree to
my father whose heart I broke when I
dropped out of college 45 years
ago he was lying on his deathbed and uh
I showed him the
degree and uh the look on his face was
priceless and then he he told my son and
me that he he understood what we were
saying so there was a tremendous amount
of love and letting go and opening
there so did I answer your yes yes
absolutely we we're almost out of time
so now that you're a Muslim is it so far
off now for someone who would have to
he's a uh someone of the Jewish
background and now the person is sincere
what would they have to do what are the
things that you had to do now to end up
becoming a Muslim so we talked about in
the beginning okay the Jews they stop at
Moses right but you cannot reject if God
sent Jesus which he did not as a God or
literal Son of God you cannot reject
Jesus and now say you're obeying God
because if God sent a messenger so you'd
have to accept Jesus and Muhammad as the
last let's talk about this the
importance of this
okay there are so many versions of the
New Testament out there it's it's a
challenge
um and there are so many sects of Jews
and Christians that it's a challenge to
try to syn up with someone because there
are some Christians who don't worship
Jesus and there most of them do there
are some Christians who don't believe in
the Trinity and there are some
Christians that do so one of the basic
points when I'm having da with a
Christian is number one they start
cracking on the women wearing things on
their head I said did you ever see a
picture of Mary peace be upon her may
Allah be pleased with any with her head
uncovered did you ever see a picture or
a statue of of Miriam may Allah be
pleased with her head uncovered no oh
what's this with you having multiple
wives I said Abraham had multiple wives
Solomon had multiple wives um Islam
didn't invent multiple wives you know
every time you know it comes on uh what
about stoning people for adultery I'm
going you know this was meant to be a
strong deterrent if you look at the the
parameters for that it's all next to
it's it's like very unlikely you're
going to get four Witnesses and all this
other it's it's a strong DET turn it's
not meant to be a weekly event after
Juma you know so but a lot of the people
in the world they have Concepts because
they believe the media just like people
believe what the doctors tell them
instead of going to Nature or going to
Natural Remedies they'll go to
Pharmaceuticals instead of going to the
source I tell people they need the
authentic beneficial
knowledge you know it's just like saying
there's 2,000 Architects and Engineers
on the internet that all say 911 was a
controlled Demolition and what caught my
eye is more than 1300 Architects and
Engineers examine the evidence about
building seven collapse and disagree
with the official report issued by the
National Institute of Standards and
techn techology I certainly am much more
open-minded about it than I was and it
is because of the involvement of the 911
families and all these engineers and
Architects you are about to hear from
architect of 23 years Richard Gage AIA
member of the American Institute of
Architects and founder of Architects and
Engineers for 9/11
truth now there are more than
1,500 Architects and engineers who say
that it could not have been brought down
by office fires they are backed by 9911
family members were are calling for an
independent unbiased investigation I'm a
family member trying to find out the
answers to the murder of 3,000 plus
people the bottom line is that it needs
to be investigated
properly please look at Architects and
Engineers people all around the world
scientists all around the world are
questioning this and there's some deep
deep explaining to do it took some kind
of Consciousness raising on my part
before I was willing to look at the the
possibilities and really you need to go
where the evidence leads as an engineer
I have three degrees in engineering I
signed that petition for Architects and
Engineers for 9/11 truth some time ago
because the American people absolutely
need the truth of 9911 look at the
evidence in fact I'll say this very
categorically any reasonable person who
looks at the evidence that's been
brought forward has got to come away
with the feeling that something has to
be done a real investigation has to be
put
forward we will never heal this country
will never ever never ever forget that
day we have to demand a new
investigation I want Justice
here and there's still people those dog
on Muslims did it you know it's just
like some people just won't and some so
all I'm trying to do is hone my skills
to be the best conveyor of the message
that I can be that's all I can do and
make Dua for them that's powerful I
learned I heard something recently that
says Dua can change destiny
to to think of that it's like I want to
make more Dua for because there's so
many people I want to help but you can't
help them on this plane but you can make
do off for them and it can it can it's
very powerful because you got a law then
working on your side for that person too
before we go also you mentioned some of
the misconceptions and you know people
that they quote things out of context
what about now with all the hype with
all of the uh you know attacks on Islam
and people showing The Fringe element a
group of extremists and they're now P
what what do you get hit with this a lot
sure sure I do I tell people that Isis
is to
Islam what meat glue is to F
minan okay it's all it's not now someone
so explain what what miklu is for people
that have no idea mlu is that stuff they
create nowadays it's kind of like the
pink slime they make McNuggets out of
only it's red meat instead of pink slime
it's they take scraps from the machines
on the floor and they adhes they use
some kind of a chemical adhesive that's
digestible and they shape it into steak
and shape it into things you got to
really keep an eye on things and that's
why it's such a blessing Allah knew
Allah knew what the food supply was
going to happen and he made Halal for us
for and he
knew so um I tell people to do some
research I tell people to do some
homework and don't believe everything
they read they see in the media don't
believe anything they see in the media
without doing some research that's what
I tell people to do and uh depending on
where they're at I say different things
to different people now you also had a
did you have that special message you
wanted to share with the world that we
had talked about I wanted to Express
gratitude to my
family uh to my
parents for putting me on the path of
monotheism when I was a little
boy and uh I'm eternally grateful for
that and they they did the best they
could with what they had what do you
have uh last closing comments and
suggestions for the people who are
searching for what you were searching
for you you went all around basically
you know the world almost uh you know
searching for the truth and you found it
for the individuals that are out there
who are searching and now they're kind
of in stuck but they've tuned on to the
dean show what advice would you have
okay lose your hair be a hippie no no no
no it's different for everybody pray to
God to help you to guide you that's what
it's about the name of this channel is
so appropriate because we ask a lot of
guide us how many times a
day
uh this is the most powerful thing we
can do is we can ask a lot to help us we
make Dua to be kept on the straight it's
all in the first chapter it's all in off
you it's all there it's all there I
couldn't make I couldn't say it any
better of course
not thank you very much for being with
us thank you may reward you greatly for
this and thank you for having me thank
you you're welcome thank
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