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you welcome to the dean show we're very
excited that you're joining us here
tonight on The Dean show you got away
from the Late Night Football game you
got to wait from all the all the things
that are out there distracting you from
the most important questions in life
what's the purpose of life why am I here
who created me what's the correct way
that I need to be upon to be successful
in this life and in the Hereafter and
this is a very very important topic
because many people are heading in
Direction and it's the wrong direction
they're taking a man as God saying that
God had a
son and all other sorts of confusion is
out there but today we're going to clear
the confusion about one of the most
mightiest Messengers God ever sent to
mankind Jesus peace be upon him we have
Dr Lawrence Brown here on the dean show
we cleared up the confusion about Jesus
being the only begotten son but in
today's episode we're going to clear up
the confusion about him being the Son of
God when we come back sit tight Dr
Lawrence Brown coming up next this is
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the Salam Alum peace be with you Dr
Lawrence Brown how are
you thank you thank you for being on the
Deans show again people can go to theen
show.com you have your own private
section there they can read a little bit
about you you have a PhD in
religious in religion you have a DD
you're a Doctor by
profession and
you love talking about these important
issues and when I started the show I
thanked everyone who's joining us
because these are serious issues so they
took a timeout from the basketball games
the football games maybe they took a
timeout from going to the nightclub just
for this night this show because we got
serious things to talk about people are
just getting fed up it's a rat race out
there they want to know the purpose of
life they want to make sure they're
going in the right direction if they're
not and this is a crucial topic cuz many
people they believe in God it's inherit
in their nature but there's some confus
confusion about Jesus there's some
confusion about Jesus now in one show
that people can see that we did it's at
the Deans show.com we cleared up the
confusion you gave the top five reasons
Dr Brown's top five reasons why Jesus
peace be upon him who we love dearly he
is not the begotten Son of God now you
have some a few more that you're going
to share for us how many exactly right
well on this episode we're going to be
talking about eight top reasons eight
top reasons why Jesus Christ was not the
Son of God we got to get right into it
let's start with number eight wasting no
time take it away last time we were
talking about the tenant of Christian
faith of Jesus Christ being considered
the only begotten Son of God we
dispelled the only we dispelled the
begotten now we're just going to talk
about the concept of Jesus Christ being
considered the Son of God okay so number
eight the reason why Jesus Christ was
not the Son of God many Christians say
Jesus Christ was the son of God because
Jesus called God father Jesus called God
father so Jesus must be the Son of God
however what do you call
God I mean I bet that most people out
there when they pray to God they say oh
you know our father and why do they say
our father because Jesus Christ
instructed his followers he said when
you pray pray in this way I our father
he didn't say my father he said our
father our father that's a key he
instructed everybody to pray in this way
Our Father who art in heaven Hallowed be
thy name etc etc etc The Lord's Prayer
so the point is that this is not this is
not a an argument hold that holds water
you cannot use this argument to say
Jesus Christ was the son of God because
he called God father because Jesus
Christ told all of his followers to call
God our Father that's number eight
that's number eight moving on
on moving on let's go to number seven
number
seven some people say Jes Jesus Christ
might be the Son of God because other
people identified Jesus Christ as the
Son of God first of all this is not
quite
true the passage or or the words P Theo
are translated to Son of God but the
primary meaning the primary translation
of pisto is servant servant vant of God
okay now all right don't trust me on
this let's say that you even prefer to
translate pisto as Son of God look at it
from a different angle we find pisto
eight times in the New Testament five
times referen Jesus once in Book of
Matthew uh 12:15 and four times in Acts
okay but there are three times that we
find P Theo that do not relate to Jesus
at all two of them relate to David and
once in Luke and once in Acts one
relates to Israel in Luke uh4 so you can
look all of these up but the bottom line
is that five times Jesus Christ is
identified as pisto twice David is
identified as pisto once Israel is
identified as pisto if P Theo means Son
of God that means you have to include
not only Jesus but you have to count
David and Israel and the formula as well
all right and since nobody does that you
have to throw the entire concept out mhm
okay um moving on so now we covered we
got eight of of the top eight why he's
not the Son of God and we're moving on
we went from 8 s let's hit six because
it relates to just what I was talking
about take it away with number six okay
pisto means servant of God but it's been
translated to Son of God the other word
that you find in the New Testament most
commonly that is translated to Sun is
spelled hu ioos huos this is translated
metaphorically when you see son of in
the Bible almost always it's huas but
almost always it is translated
metaphorically or the meaning is
metaphorical I'll give you an example
Matthew 17:25 the Believers are
identified as sons of the king sons of
the king Luke
199 God's elect are identified as sons
of Abraham Matthew 79 the Believers are
identified as God's Sons as what God's
sons and those are the Believers okay so
if the Believers are God's sons that
means all believers are God's Sons okay
now are you going to understand that
literally or figuratively metaphorically
I'll give you a hint students in Matthew
12:27 students are identified as sons of
the Pharisees in John
19:26 the favorite disciple is
identified as Mary's son even though he
wasn't Mary's son okay you go on to
Matthew 8:12 you find sons of the
Kingdom you go to Luke 10:6 we've got
sons of Peace Luke 168 sons of Light
sons of this world sons of
thunder does any of this sound real I
mean does any any of this sound literal
sons of this world sons of Light sons of
thunder of of Kingdom sons of God Sons
of Abraham sons of the Believers sons of
uh no this is all metaphorical and if we
look at the scholars leading to item
number five if we look at the scholars
the scholars tell us this has to be a
metaphor it can't be anything but a
metaphor right this is reason number
five so we're moving on to five now
reason number five why Jesus Christ is
not the Son of God is because Scholars
tell us it's not possible for this to be
literal it can only be metaphor why
because if it was intended
literally in in the time of Jesus Christ
it would have been considered blasphemy
and anybody who had said it according to
the laws of the Old Testament would have
been considered as disbeliever and would
have been executed so you have to either
accept it as a
metaphor or if not as a metaphor it
would have been Blasphemous and those
who those who proposed it would have uh
would have been punished for blasphemy
so we're going to stop at 5: we went
from 8 to 5 so when we come back we're
going to do four sounds good to me we'll
be right back with number four the top
eight Dr Lawrence Brown here on the dean
show I don't say the people I used to be
a Christian I still carry the values and
principles of loving Jesus Christ and
perhaps maybe more than the people who
call themselves Christians so I think I
got the best out of Christianity by
becoming
Muslim so many other things that you can
enjoy without drinking a of alcohol
death is the same thing it's not an
obstacle it's not something to cause
people to get completely desperate and
start stopping living their lives No it
should be a motivation it's only one
life that you're going to be living so
you better do it for Allah subhah wa
tala
alone I am not afraid to stand alone if
Li by I am not afraid to stand
alone I am not afraid to stand alone if
a by side I am not afraid to stand
alone I am not afraid to stand alone if
I li I am not afraid stand
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Al back here on the dean show with Dr
Lawrence Brown and we're giving the
people the top eight reasons in this
show why Jesus is not the Son of God
never claimed to be the Son of God could
not be the Son of God and you're on a
roll you went from eight now we're on
four mhm please continue on okay number
four number four reason why Jesus Christ
was not the Son of God or why we should
believe that Jesus Christ was not the
Son of God is that Jesus Christ did not
call himself the Son of God okay we have
to believe that Jesus Christ was what he
said he was he never called himself he
never called himself the Son of God okay
okay what do we have to back up that
position okay Hastings Bible dictionary
says whether Jesus used it the term s
Son of God whether Jesus used it of
himself is doubtful Harper's Bible
dictionary says it even more clearly
quote Jesus never claims for himself the
title Son of God now these are these are
from
respected uh Bible dictionaries and they
are telling us that Jesus Christ never
called himself the Son of God now I know
what a lot of people out there are
thinking they're thinking I read my
Bible I find Son of God you have to
understand that what the scholars are
talking about are not what you find in
your translation what the scholars are
talking about is what they find in the
manuscripts from which the Bible is
translated okay it's a very important
Point uh a person can translate a
document to read whatever they want it
to read you have to go to the source
documents to really understand what it
says precisely okay but even in your
Bibles even in your Bibles you will find
that Jesus never called himself the Son
of God in a literal begotten not made
sense so that's number four that's
number
four jump to number three we got three
left there
is uh there is a statement among
Christian missionaries it's called the
trilemma right they come up to us and
they say look Jesus was either a liar he
was a lunatic or for he was the son of
God as he said he was mhm okay well look
as Muslims we agree Jesus Christ was not
a liar he was not a lunatic he was
exactly what he said he was but where
did he say that he was the son of God he
didn't but what did he say he was reason
number three Jesus called himself what
the son of man 88 times go and count
them 88 times Jesus identified himself
as the son of man not as the Son of God
as the son of of man the new Catholic
encyclopedia States quote this title is
of special interest because it was the
one employed by Jesus by preference to
designate himself and his mission now
that's the new Catholic encyclopedia
telling us that Jesus Christ employed
the title Son of Man by preference to
Des to designate himself and his mission
that's number three reasons why
we should understand that Jesus Christ
was not the Son of God these are very
simple and not complicated to understand
I want to get through these that's the
best and I have a few important
questions very important questions I
want to ask you so continue on we're
going to number two now number two
reasons why Jesus Christ why we should
realize he's not the Son of God Jesus is
identified in the New Testament 14 times
14 times as the son of
David who was J Jesus's father
was it
David no no we find in the Book of Luke
a list of genealogy from David 41
Generations until it works its way down
to Jesus Christ and even then we have to
remember that Jesus Christ didn't have a
father okay he was born by he was born
to the Virgin Mary as a Divine Miracle a
sign from God of of the of the fact that
he was a prophet but in any case we have
David 41 Generations in the Book of Luke
before we get to Jesus if you look in
Matthew it's 26 Generations let's not
get hung up over the fact that Luke and
Matthew can't agree that's a different
point to be made about the Bible let's
just acknowledge that Jesus Christ is
called the son of David 14 times in the
Bible and he most definitely was not the
son of David so what do we have here if
if the Bible is saying literally that he
was the son of David the Bible is wrong
and you have to rectify an error in the
Bible with your belief that the Bible is
the word of God because obviously God
doesn't make a mistake or you have to
recognize as we have already discussed
that in fact the language is figurative
it is metaphorical it is not meant to be
taken literally now that's that's number
two that's number two now people are
going to have to hold up for number one
because I have to ask you a very serious
question now Dr Brown now someone might
say you know what okay this sounds all
good you're making sense but you know
from from a child you know I've been
brought up to believe that you know
there's a big fat man Santa Claus coming
down to chimney I've been I've been
programmed to believe you know the uh
too fairy is going to come and you know
uh take my tooth under the pillow etc
etc we get get programmed a lot of
things you know some people grow out of
that all right but now this this is
something that's even more serious and
they say you know what what's the big
deal I'll just if I make a mistake if
this is wrong on that day of judgment
I'll look God in the eye and I'll say
you know what God I'm
sorry and we'll take it from there what
do you got to say about that well you
know I think that we've um you know
we've touched on this before I mean the
bottom line is that this life is our
test and with the end of this life
that's the end of the test and there are
no apologies later in the same way that
you can't go to your teacher at the end
of your final exam and ask him to open
the book and let you change it yeah once
the exam is done once that exam book is
closed your your Deeds are
done in this life when you die that is
the that is the closure upon your deeds
and that at that moment you lose the
ability to go back and fix anything you
can't it's finished this is your shot
right now our shot this this is what
life is all about look God could have
taken all of us and put us in Paradise
directly if he wanted to or he could
have taken us and put us in Hellfire but
instead he put us in this life with free
will to choose our own Direction and
based upon our choices based upon the
path that we choose for ourselves
whether to be Pious and righteous or not
that is going to sort out the people who
go to paradise the people who go to hell
and the degrees of their punishment and
the degrees of their
reward okay but but but our Deeds our
Deeds end when our lives end now is this
an insult to God to say that God had a
son is this something that is absolutely
it's an insult absolutely why because
because first of all how how can God
have a son when he doesn't have a
consort all right uh SE secondly we know
from the first commandment right not to
place Partners beside
God and we know that the most important
important important commandment is that
know your God is one God all right three
times in the Bible three times in the
New Testament Jesus Christ uh is asked
about the most important command and
this is what he states he
says no oh Israel your God is one God he
look if there were such a thing as a
trinity if Jesus Christ were the Son of
God if there were mysteries of faith
that would have been the place to have
said it m i mean that would have been
the place to have said no oh Israel the
Lord your God the Lord is
one but it's not quite that simple there
are other elements to it let me explain
he didn't say that all right he said the
Lord your God the Lord is one period and
it's recorded three times in the Bible
and there is no you know there are no
passages which contradict that or shed
another light on that and what is
revelation what is revelation
revealation the point of Revelation is
to
reveal this this is God con conveying
through a human agent his word to
mankind to reveal to us the reality of
him and the reality of his laws okay so
this this is where he's going to make it
clear to
us why would there be such a thing as a
trinity and he doesn't make that clear
to us why would there be such a thing as
a Son of God and he doesn't he doesn't
clarify that I'm giving you all the
reasons why we should realize that Jesus
Christ was not the Son of God and we're
going to give them the number one reason
and they're going to have to hold on
till after the break we'll be right back
with the number one reason why Jesus
peace be upon him was not the Son of God
with Dr Lawrence Brown be right back
from and if we're going to worship
something I figured I might as well
worship the Creator instead of any of
the
Creations now in upon investigating all
the religions I remember finding out the
meaning of what is Islam is what a
Muslim is those who surrender theel to
God is a Muslim those who surrender
submit to God God's will that is it
Islam was pure it was just you just pray
to God your
Creator on the outside everything looks
good you see the $100,000 cards you see
a lot of diamonds you see a lot of
females and they think that this is you
know this is a life this is this is like
you know Paradise right here on
Earth it's not anyone's job to go into
someone's heart and change their heart
your job is to tell people what the
truth is and the reality of it is while
we're sitting here while I'm sitting
here constantly paying for the disease
The Cure was
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free back here on the dean show and you
been patiently awaiting for the number
one reason why Jesus say peace be upon
him who we love very dearly he was one
of the mightiest messengers of God we
believe but he was not the Son of God
never claimed to be and you're going to
now give us God willing the number one
reason from your top eight please go
ahead Dr Brown all right the number one
reason is well how many sons of God are
you going to believe in Christian
doctrine tells us that Jesus Christ was
the only begotten Son of God there was
only one son of God and that was Jesus
Christ and yet Jeremiah
319 States quote for I meaning God this
is God speaking for I am a father to
Israel and ephra is my first born well
now wait a minute if Jesus Christ is the
only begotten Son of God how can God be
the father to Israel and Ephraim is his
first born how is that possible but
that's what it says Jeremiah
31:9 Romans
8:14 quote for as many as are led by the
spirit of God they are what they are the
sons of God Exodus 4:22 Israel is my son
even my
firstborn now what part of that is
mysterious Israel is my
son even my first born um so you have to
you have to start making a list really
of who is who is a Son of God and who is
not and that list is not short Luke
338 Adam which was the son of
God okay two Samuel 713 identifies
Solomon as the Son of God Genesis 62
64 Deuteronomy Deuteronomy 141 you can
go to job 1:6 21
387 all of these passages identify
individuals or groups as sons of God or
children of God everybody knows the
passage Matthew 5:9 blessed are the PE
peacemakers blessed are the
peacemakers for they shall be called the
sons of
God okay so let's just tabulate a whole
list here we've got Israel we've got
Solomon we've got Adam we've got
countless individuals who are identified
by group not by individual but by groups
as children or sons of God so where does
the list end on one hand you have the
Bible saying all of these people are
sons of God on the other hand you have
the church saying Jesus Christ was the
only begotten Son of God again there's a
big problem you cannot Rectify these two
they are mutually exclusive you can't
say one person is the only begotten Son
of God and then all these other people
are Sons or children of God as well okay
so something's wrong the church is wrong
the Bible is wrong something is wrong
and I think most people know it so this
is the number one reason why we should
realize Jesus Christ is not the Son of
God it's because so many people were
spoken of as sons of God literally in a
begotten not made sense no once again we
have to realize this is metaphorical it
is not meant to be taken literally it is
an expression of closeness to God it is
it is an expression of piety but it is
not an expression of reality it is not a
literal expression of sunship as we
understand sunship in a literal sense
now we're almost at a time in the last
minute that we have please tell us cuz
some people might think man these guys
are the Antichrist what's going on here
so are we the anti christ and tell us
just in in the one minute that we have
briefly you know where people can also
go after you explain that we're not
Antichrist uh how people can get in
contact with you and learn more about
this topic look you're not the
Antichrist when you speak up for what
Christ himself taught we are supporting
what Jesus Christ actually taught we
believe in him as a man and as a prophet
as he taught us to believe in him okay
you you you do not denigrate the profit
by tearing down the the lies that have
been constructed in his name because
should he return he would be the first
one to attack those as well he would be
the first one to say I never said that
where can you find this information
everything that you have heard tonight
you can find on my websites and a great
deal more uh level truth.com and eth
scroll.com.tr
e scroll is uh dedicated to a book
called The Eighth scroll just look it up
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ERS he was not a man or woman he created
man and woman he's the one God who Jesus
prayed to throughout time God has sent
Messengers and that message that they
delivered was always the same worship
the Creator and not his
creation and we hope that you got to
benefit and we look forward to having
you here again with us next time
inshallah God willing until then peace
be unto you