people have been able to recite it even
if all the qurans were burned to hide
this he had to burn the Quran even if
you burn every Quran on Earth we will
bring it
back cover to cover the Quan has never
been changed in never been changed the
Birmingham Quran you're looking at one
of the oldest fragments of the Quran
ever discovered Will Smith talking about
how the Quran is so clear I just I loved
the Simplicity the the the Quran is so
clear it's
do exactly what sneu did his response
was beautiful Candace is a Christian to
all Muslims going up during that time in
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Shak
greetings and peace welcome to host are
there 10 versions of the Quran seven
versions of the Quran or is there only
one version of the Quran this is what a
new Muslim was asked at the Speaker's
Corner by the name of
sneo was he shocked to hear this for the
first time this question being raised
let's go ahead and have a look at that
and also contrast that with the Bible
with my next guest as soon as we have a
look at this video we'll bring him on he
was actually mentioned in this
interaction
between um sneo and the other individual
the Christian I was wondering what your
perspective was about uh the
preservation of the Bible in the Quran
right the the Quran has never been
changed in uh never been changed there's
only one Quran yeah there's only only
only one version of the Quran only one
version of the Quran yeah and since then
like people have been able to recite it
even if all the qurans were burned we'd
be able right cuz the oral tradition you
know exactly what it is so you can
recite it I can't recite it but people
right right brother so do you accept
that there's 10 K of the Quran 10
different readings sure okay but those
10 different readings are obviously
different right okay so if they're
different then there's not one Quran
there's 10 qurans okay so do you take
that back that there's only one Quran
that's the first time I've heard that J
will tell you this to chat with him
about it Mal Mal owner or King in Arabic
they're two different words so if you
want to read up about this you can get a
book called The 10 Kat of the noble
Quran Dr Fidel man who works for the
bridges foundation in Cairo which is a
DA Institute and he's wrote a book A
book about it where he translates the
Quran into English but not just in one
reading he does it for all 10 so do you
accept then that the K is not perfectly
preserved now to help us answer this
question are there 10 are there seven or
is there only one is the person that was
actually mentioned in this video Fidel
suan he's an international speaker Oro
filmmaker and presenter of Islam also
the author and has a master's degree in
God's law and the Sharia he's the one
produced The Book translation of the 10
the noble Quran so without further Ado
let's bring out shik
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felan let me introduce you to my
face we have one God name Allah
Allah and his final Messengers muhamad
peace be upon him this is our religion
Islam Islam this is
the
love when I was ready to talk about it I
would only talk to I was explaining how
much respect I have for the fa show
Welcome to the de show the de show
allum how are you doing alhamdulillah
perfect alhamdulillah I didn't know that
so uh my book was publicized in by
non-muslims in U in height Park I
because Corner that's in your backyard
there isn't it yeah but I don't go there
usually so he okay so let's get this uh
point so this person there's a new
Muslim by the name of sneo so he's
visiting the Speaker's Corner and then
gets hit with this question now these
doubts start coming in are there 10 are
there seven and then you get mentioned
because you're the author he says check
out your book is he gonna check out your
book and get more
confused please how would you answer
this how how do we U how do we address
this okay
ald uh that's that's actually
unfortunate that many non-arab speaking
Muslims don't know that about the the
are uh seven not seven dialects so
actually even the the the Muslim brother
who was next to him who told him these
are seven like seven dialects like the
British dialect and that's that's also
not true H the
seven are seven modes of reciting the
Quran and they have nothing to do I'm
sorry it's not seven there are 10 I'm
sorry there are 10 10 10 modes of
recitation of the Quran and they have
nothing to do with the seven which were
mentioned by the non-muslim brother who
it looks like he gets bits and pieces
from everywhere but the seven aru are
completely different from this from the
10 um it all started by Prophet Muhammad
sallallahu alaihi wasallam being
worried that he he is sent to the Arabs
in the beginning and the Arabs have
different dialects and some of them uh
may be uh less educated than others so
they may not be able to manage
uh learn the Quran in a dialect that is
not theirs completely so he told jel he
is the one who asked for the he told him
oh jiel I was sent to an unlettered
Nation a nation of unlettered people who
don't read or right among them
is the the old man and and the old woman
and and the young child and the man who
never read any book before so jel told
him don't worry this Quran is descending
on seven which means means it has many
meanings but the the meaning that most
Scholars understood it is that it had on
on seven different ways of uh or seven
dialects so it will be suitable for
everyone like for
example the Believers but
says they don't
say whenever the Hamza comes in the
beginning of
the root of the word
because comes from the
root the H that comes in the beginning
of the root it it does it is not
pronounced okay so it's it's it's a it's
a it's a knowled it's a science anyway
so the it was descended like that and
then by the end of the life of prophet
Muhammad Sall alaihi
wasallam he found that the
dialect of quray was accepted by
everyone because actually everyone loved
quray quray were the custodians of the
Kaa uh the Arab pagans used to go for
Haj in Mecca so they were okay with
quray so what the prophet was worried
about was not
really it never it was never a problem
so the pro the prophet himself in the
last
in his last presentation of the Quran to
jel in Ramadan in the presence of some
sahab he presented the Quran only in
one which
ISR so he the prophet who asked for more
he is the one who abrogated six and only
one is there good but this has nothing
to do with
the the seven modes of recitation
existed in
every and I'm going to show you
why when we speak about
different we are speaking about
variations in the
recitation 70% of them do not affect the
meaning only performance variations like
for example how long do we extend the
vowel
for examp example some uh the the the
medinan people they
say which is
called but others just
say normal or
natural
uh length so this differs it's only
performance like for example when I say
heavens and the Earth we
say this is what most people read in but
worsh people people who
read so mostly Moroccans algerians
tunisians they read it like
that
not and there is Hamza reads it like
that he stops for for he poses before
before this is just performance it does
not affect the meaning and of course I
could not embrace it in here because to
embrace it in your translation this is
by the it's not a book it's a
translation of the Quran but translation
that Embraces the
10 so the second type of variation is
what is embraced in my translation
because it affects the meaning and the
non-muslim brother actually gave a gave
a very good example of it he said for
example
in or this one means owner and this one
means or this one means uh uh
King which one of
them it's both of
them and that's what he does not
understand that the Ayah the Quran is
precise and at the same
time uh concise it's it's brief it's not
a very big book like that it would be
hard for people to memorize it it will
lose even its uh its its eloquence if
it's too long and too so some ayat can
be read in two different modes each one
of them gives a different meaning but
not one of them contradicts with the
other so if you want to know the meaning
of this Ayah you have to put both layers
of of each other so Allah isik and
Malik Allah is the king and the owner
King gives the uh denotes Authority Rule
and Malik denotes ownership not every
King is the owner and not every owner is
a king Allah is the owner and the one in
authority and the and the ruler
understand me so not every owner rules
and not every ruler owns so he is Malik
and Malik at the same time so that's I
want to tell you
something I am a Muslim a born Muslim
but had I been have been a
non-muslim and I studied all what I have
studied in
Islam the would be the the point that
attracts me to Islam the because it's a
miracle
it is the miracle of the Quran in my own
opinion this is the miracle of the Quran
lately alhamdulillah we
finished let me stop you there so what
you're saying is on top of all the
Miracles embryo in the Quran cannot be
based on scientific knowledge in the sth
7th
century
m Muhammad could not have known these
facts about human development in the 7th
Century because most of them were not
discovered until the 20th century these
facts could only have been revealed to
Muhammad by the one known who knows all
about us the last and final messenger
sent to Mankind pro Muhammad Muhammad he
did physical Miracles then he had the
living Miracle of the Quran the
preservation of the Quran then you had
the prophecies all of that you would say
this trumps this would be on top of all
of the evidence already to convince you
that the Quran is the verbatim word of
God Almighty the creator of Allah this
that this this person this Christian is
trying to cast doubt into the new
muslim's heart sneo this would
actually counter and come out as a
miracle for you well well this is also
very complicated because the word
miracle in English is just something
outstanding that is against the laws of
physics but in Arabic doesn't mean that
literally means something that
incapacitates the foe or the the the the
uh the
opponent the of prophet Muhammad the
Miracles that the physical Miracles that
happened to him were not in the Pres in
the presence of the
opponents they were in the presence of
the sahaba so they were miracles in a
sense because they are outstanding when
for example the Pebbles made this in his
hand when for example his uh the the the
the trunk of the of the palm tree uh
uh smoke no no it actually it cried
because he left it and started standing
on a member that was made for him a
Pulpit so these are water from his hands
exactly feeding a whole Army from the
food of two people only but these are
not because they did not happen in the
presence of opponents why because
physical Miracles are a plea against
only those who have seen it and watched
it or some people who learned from them
about it maybe two generations who
learned from Daddy and gido you
understand me so these physical Miracles
are only a ple against a few people and
at the same time that did not really
work with many people so for example far
and all the Egyptian people attended a
huge physical miracle and they still did
not believe only those uh uh magicians
believed because they knew that this
cannot be magic so usually prophets are
called magicians when they do physical
Miracles Quran Islam is the last message
of Islam or Islam is the last message of
God so Allah wants the last message to
depend on an ever lasting message an
everlasting miracle and that's the Quran
it is the only miracle that does not
need its Messenger to do it the can of
Moses is a miracle but it needs Moses
and the the miracles of Jesus need Jesus
to do it but the miracle of Muhammad
does not need Muhammad now to work it's
working it's the Quran okay so that's
that's the issue um and the main Miracle
of the Quran is people say it's
eloquence I don't believe it's the
eloquence because eloquence is
unmeasurable so to challenge people with
something it has to be measurable and
that was
the the okay we all know that Allah
subhana T challenged the Arabs who are
them actually The Poets of the Arabs are
the masters of the Arabic language he
challenged them to bring a Quran like it
and they couldn't so he gave them a
discount 10 suras they couldn't more
discount one Surah and one of the suras
here is only 10
words only 10
words they couldn't it's not only they
couldn't n none none of them dared to
accept the challenge and many people
don't understand why it's because of
the this when they heard
it I said we don't we we don't fathom
what's that
it's it's the same letter said L same
words even but it's like a different
language and anyone who knows Arabi
knows that there is poetry and there is
pros and there is Quran the Quran is
cannot be categorized as poetry nor Pros
why because it's a different style no
one can come up with a Quran like it I'm
going to give you an example in the
beginning of Surah
I'm going to read to you in Arabic and
in English the
aah you would find it beautiful and
acceptable and nice in Arabi or even in
English but if I say it outside the
Quran you will not be able even to hear
it it will be painful I'm going to it
says like
that
it
says Allah has heard the argument of the
one of the woman who came to argue with
you about her husband and Allah listens
to to your to you and her arguing with
each other and Allah is indeed all
seeing all
hearing if I say this outside the Quran
by replacing the name Allah by a
different name Andy for
example Eddie has heard the argument of
the one who came to you arguing about
her husband and Eddie is listening to
you and Eddie is all seeing all hearing
it's painful So when you say it outside
the Quran it's
unacceptable what inside the Quran it's
fine because the Quran is in itself a
miracle being a a unique style and the
is one of these things that makes it a
new style of the
language for example I'm going to give
you another example now we all know that
Pharaoh told his assistants allow me to
kill
Moses I am afraid that he changes your
religion uh or uh makes Mischief uh or
or makes Mischief in the earth there are
four different for this
a which explains to us why he did not
kill Moses because he started the Ayah
by saying allow me to kill Moses and
then he didn't kill him and no one told
us why he didn't kill him only theat
will tell you why he didn't kill him
the fourat
say allow me to kill Moses I'm afraid
that he will change your he may change
your religion or make Mischief appear on
Earth the
second I am a I am afraid that he may
change your religion and make Mischief
appear on Earth not or
okay yeah I'm afraid that he may change
your religion
or mischief may appear on Earth and he
excluded Moses from this which means
that maybe an enemy will make use of the
upheaval in the society and do something
and the fourth one is maybe he will
change your religion and Mischief will
appear on Earth what does that mean it
means that this was a long meeting with
his assistance and he started by allow
me to kill
Moses which means
pave the way start spreading the word
that this is a terrorist and it's okay
to kill him yeah by dehumanizing him and
his people and then what happened it was
a long meeting every alternative was put
on the table every possibility or
probability was put on the table and
they ended up telling him no you have to
debate with
him send callers to call on people in in
in in the different Villages so the told
us what because those are four different
meanings but none of them contradicts
but it shows that every single
possibility was put on the
table the most the example that I that I
love most is that when Allah made Moses
become a prophet Moses
was afraid of his own shortcomings that
they would affect the dawa so he was
trying to convince Allah not to send him
alone and maybe bring his brother with
him to be to assist him so he told
him they there's a there is a them
against me there is a crime that I there
a charge I'm charged with killing I'm
afraid that they will kill me if you
send me to
Egypt then he told
him and my chest constrains and my
tongue is not fluent this has another
instead of
the instead
of
and instead
of does it affect the meaning of course
it affects the meaning the first one
means I'm charged I have a there's a
charge against me there's an accusation
against me I'm afraid they kill me I am
afraid they kill me and my chest Titans
which means I lose my temper
quickly and my tongue is not fluent but
the second
of it means and my chest May
tighten which means I'm afraid that they
may kill me and my chest May tighten I
may lose my temper not my chest tightens
already by default
and the second one is and my tongue may
not be fluent when I speak to Pharaoh
the first one my tongue is not fluent he
has he spent 10 years outside Egypt not
speaking the Coptic or the the the the
language so he lost most of it or he
won't be able to speak fluently so which
one did he say this is here did he say
why neither one Moses did not speak
Arabi the Quran is rewriting the
scenario of the old narratives of the
prophets in an artistic way in the Arabi
in the Arabi language that's the that's
the
mindblowing Moses said both of them
Moses was trying hard to convince God
not to send him alone so he told him
there's a charge against me and they may
kill me and also I may lose my temper
because I already lose temper quickly
and I may not be fluent because I'm
already not fluent so he said both of
them so to understand the meaning you
have to put the layers it's like you
know when a child draws a drawing on
several layers of calc paper the
transparent paper and each layer gives
more
details it's mindblowing mindblowing yes
mindblowing I'm telling you this would
be the thing that attracts me to Islam
the problem is many Muslims none Arab
SEC was don't even know anything about
it that's why I spent four years of my
life doing this but also if you want to
talk about the translation one of the
features is talking about the Hereafter
in past tense Allah spoke about the
Hereafter which is f about 500
occurrences in the Quran all of them in
past tense all
translations made them in future
tense wow
it's they were worried that the English
reader will find it awkward when it
speaks when IT addresses the events of a
future event in past tense but actually
I'm sorry the Arabic reader also found
it awkward because even in
Arabi uh past tense never denotes future
tense but it made you ponder it made us
Ponder why would Allah speak about that
important future event in past tense
it's because Allah is Al
he is not confided by time Allah is
outside time and space so yes the he
after is a future event for you and me
but not for Allah Allah is outside time
for Allah there's no future so when
Allah spoke about a future event like
the Hereafter he spoke in past tense he
said and the evildoers were driven to
Hellfire in Surah aumar if you go to 168
translations they change it to Future T
shall be drawn to in Hell Fire but Allah
said they were already they are there
already wow this is uh like you said
mindblowing so this is actually
something that's more Technical and just
to summarize we have the seven dialects
so the seven dialects and then you had
the 10 modes of recitation yes so we can
say there seven dialects can you say
that this is like when you're in Britain
British English English from USA Texas
English even within the USA um hi howy
uh things like this that now but these
were abrogated these were abrogated
there is no more only one dialect now
the dialect of
quray are not there anymore Prophet
Muhammad himself who asked for it and he
abrogated six of them and only one state
now you have 10 modes of recitation
exactly still being today ex of course
and they are they were inside every half
of the seven because if they give
different meanings so they were in every
one of
them and now this is these 10 modes of
recitation this is like the long how to
maybe stretch how to recite and and then
the way you were explaining some of them
are like that yes some of them are like
that and some of them are grammatical
which okay with okay with all of this
now you now when I open up up the
program I said is there 10 versions of
the Quran seven or still one no one
what's the question one there's one
without a shadow of a doubt yes
absolutely there's only one Quran but if
you want to know a meaning of an Ayah
that has variation of you have to put
the whole meaning is the meaning of all
the in it usually it's two or three in
Somey you have a lot of experience
you've been helping to educate people on
Islam for a very long time do you think
now many people they do this maliciously
they have this intent to try to like
they try to confuse a new Muslim sneo
deliberately putting this out there
because it's technical this something
takes it's not something you could just
answer in 30 seconds in five seconds do
they do this deliberately to go ahead
and confuse to stump someone yeah
actually um uh the first people whom
I've seen holding my book were actually
some islamophobes who are attacking the
Quran some of them is called something
white or something like that or J Smith
so they appeared attacking the Quran
using my book which is actually is is is
uh is not good but of course they do
that deliberately definitely so they do
this uh deliberately but when you come
down to it and you speak to an expert
that's why we brought we actually
brought the person that he
mentioned in the interaction with the
new Muslim sneo how would you advise
someone who's now let's say in this
situation and now sneo new Muslim and
he's like what you know because it's
very standard that we talk about there's
only one Quran one version of the Quran
so what do you advise someone when they
get into something like this that's
Technical and then you're kind of like
you you you're not going to be able to
articulate it unpackage it like you did
how should they in a condensed version
be able to uh address exactly do exactly
what sneu did his response was beautiful
no I didn't know that you are not
supposed to know everything by the
way no one knows everything and it's not
it's not wrong it's not wrong not to
know but it's wrong not to
learn this book of Allah is an amazing
book it's not ink on paper it's a spirit
Allah said to Prophet Muhammad
wasallam and I have revealed to you a
Spirit by my command if you establish a
relationship with the Quran by pondering
upon it because Allah sent it to us to
be pondered upon not to be just
memorized without understanding and this
is very dangerous I see many Muslims
just memorizing without understanding
thinking that this is okay this is not
okay Allah ordered you to understand it
it's like instructions from
Allah and it's beautiful but just do
effort and yeah some people told me yeah
but like that it looks like the Quran is
that it's not very simple
of course it's not simple why do you
want the book of Allah to be simple if
this is the miracle it's not going to be
simple you will spend all your life
learning it and you will not learn it
all one of my uh former teachers um he
said that the Quran is like an ocean you
can enjoy the water in the shallow and
then the deeper you go the more you can
go ahead and enjoy of the ocean but but
it is it is opposite to other oceans is
safer when you go in depth and it's
dangerous when you are only in the
shallow don't stay in the shallow go in
dep keep going keep going
deeper was there now like and we'll
contrast this with the Bible with all
due respect was there a committee now
did you have Scholars did you have the
companions of that time arguing and
setting up committees and over over this
issue was it a contentious issue was
this something now through history like
he's mentioning the burning when you
hear this
they that now to hide this he had to
burn the Quran even if you burn every
Quran on Earth we will bring it
back cover cover how do you answer that
yeah that's that's a very good uh by the
way I answered all these in some
misconception videos that I have whatman
did was very good because whatman did is
not quran's the what what he he burns
not qurans he burned the M of the sahab
the word m means BL
note it means notes so the sahabah had
notes in which they wrote what they
heard from the prophet they wrote Quran
and they wrote the T of the Quran and
they wrote many things that and there
was no uh uh red color pens and blue
color pens no so it was all like CL
cluttered in their Mah in their notes so
the the
he made actually the Quran was collected
a few weeks after the death of prophet
Muhammad s wasallam and everything was
written in the presence of the prophet
he just collected Abu Bakr sik collected
the parchments that were in the houses
of the sahabah and he made a committee
that not one parment is added except if
there is a uh if there are uh uh
Witnesses who witnessed that that was
written in the presence of the prophet
sallallahu alaihi wasallam and all of
that was kept in in uh in a form of a
book in the house of H the daughter of
Omar and the wife of prophet Muhammad
and then when came the the the Muslim
state has grown and he needed to make
copies so he made the com the same
person who was the head of the committee
of collecting the Quran he is the same
person who will copy it and at the same
time he uh will the only difference is
that they rearranged the suras according
to the presentation of prophet Muhammad
because what Abu Bakr was focused upon
that nothing of the Quran is lost but
some suras was were not in its order so
it was reordered according to the
presentation of the Prophet s wasallam
and copied and sent to the different uh
uh countries what what he did after that
is that he told the sahabah you are
commanded all of you to bring your notes
and they will be burned because this is
in favor of the um of the nation because
if it stays and someone after the death
of Abdullah
Mas a second or a third generation says
says that oh there's a word that was
written in this Ayah that is not in the
Quran this will create a problem because
this word was what was just a tap was
watched an and comary a commentary
exactly so he burned in order not to
have the problem that Christians have
today with the Bible wow this is theep
so let let's unpackage that again let's
simplify it so you have the Revelation
coming down from the Gabriel uh Angel
Archangel Gabriel and then it's coming
down to the last and final messenger
Prophet Muhammad peace and blessings be
upon him from from there now it would
come in different ways what are the
different ways that the Revelation would
come just for Simplicity sakes it would
come down in wh which which ways would
it come down to Revelation well it were
downloaded on the heart of the Prophet
wasam used to hear very high very very
painful voice sometimes he used to feel
pain and then he asks for scribes he had
48 scribes so that's the next step so
now the scribes so now the Revelation
comes he's got the Revel now he had 48
scribes now this is this is very
important because this is not 100 years
200 years after the fact or even a year
after the fact this is during his
lifetime he's got 48
scribes exactly which where did Zade
ibit fit in he was the main scribe the
chief scribe he was one of the scribes
of course
yes scribed a lot mu scribed a lot so
whenever the prophet is receiving he
would tell someone bring someone bring
Al and he's receiving and someone comes
and then he starts telling him and he
writes in in in his presence now people
are thinking how are they writing they
didn't have pens they didn't have iPads
what how are they writing at that time
no no iPads yeah but uh no they had pens
but their pens looked different it was
like um
um uh a piece of uh of a branch that is
that is um uh made C way and it's put in
ink and they write on but they wrote in
different things they they did not have
paper like ours so they wrote on
parchments of usually of of um leather
and sometimes uh also parchments made
from the uh uh leaves of the palm trees
like like the pharohs like everybody
people wrote on these things so now you
have the scribes and then the prophet
muham upon him he's about to um leave
this earth die and then now you have the
Quran compiled during his lifetime is
that correct no not compiled but written
all of it every SLE Ayah every single
sign well by the way in my
translation we we translated the word
the Ayah to sign not verse and I think
it's wrong to say verse so you have he
recited it twice in the before he this
is very interesting and then and then
you have the uh the verse that came down
uh this day I have perfected your
religion at any time he could have been
how many assassination attempts on like
13 or or something like that you had uh
assassination attempts he survived yes
all the way into the end until this
verse is revealed this day I have
perfected your religion completed my
favor onto you and picked for you Islam
here can I stop you here Prophet
Muhammad used to recite the whole the
Quran every single year in Ramadan in
Ramadan the last Ramadan he recited it
twice twice I mean these details are
very very important this is mind yes in
its later in its latest and the final
form because I want to tell you
something when we hear for example that
albak was the first Surah to descend in
Medina but it stayed descending for
about six years other suras was also
descending so whenever jel gives him a
little bit of Al Bak he tells him to put
it in
how how far after this Ayah was revealed
this day have I perfected your Dean your
way of life did his about 80 days about
80 Days 80 days this this is very isn't
this very not the last ay it's not the
last Ayah there's yeah but this was
right to the completion towards the end
18 days it was in the day
of on the day ofaa before the death of
prophet Muhammad days okay so so now
everything of the Quran has come down he
passes away way and now you have the
next kff now who steps up Abu Bakr sadik
now and what happens with the Quran now
he compiled it by bringing all the
parchments from the houses of the people
and from the houses of the Prophet The
Prophet had several houses for several
wives and they compiled it all in a form
of a
book now we have the book yes but it was
focused on not losing anything so the
suras were not in the same
of copying and at the same time he
reordered the SAS is this the same now
we have the same scribe is this correct
the same scribe who's alive who was
during the time of prophet Muhammad he's
also there at this time okay by the way
by the way there were others but he was
chosen by Abu Bakr and byman for being
young and young people it's not only
that they are energetic and no it's also
that they are open-minded and they are
not going to stick to their opinion so
if he if for example he someone says no
this was not written in the presence of
prophet Muhammad and there's no
Witnesses and so on he will not stick to
his opinion because he's young he's
open-minded you understanding yeah so
they they obviously cross check they
cross checked it the witnesses who saw
everything is there the memorizers are
checking it also this is profound this
is amazing it's truly a miracle and now
you have it going out and you're in UK
you have this Birmingham Quran this is
is this dating back now to this time
that we're talking about the Birmingham
Quran you're looking at one of the
oldest fragments of the Quran ever
discovered it's written on parchment
most likely made from sheep or goat skin
and it's been dated by experts as being
more than 1300 years old and that makes
it among the earliest known fragments of
the Quran anywhere in the world and it's
here in the University of Birmingham we
did not I think in our wildest dreams
expect that it would roughly correlate
to the lifespan of the Prophet Muhammad
and where else do you find the Quran
Yeah well yeah there are there are
several um in several museums there are
parchments here and there and they are
all uh actually there is a non-muslim uh
scholar on on this called Marine vtin uh
in in Holland and and he tested all that
and he found that it's
everything matches the Quran that we
have today nothing was changed
uh by time it's truly a miracle I want
to get your reaction to this now we want
to before we conclude I want to contrast
this because people they try to compare
the Bible with all due respect and how
it was compiled and they can't wrap
their minds around this is truly when
you study this this is indeed an
Evidence a miracle that you have it
preserved the way it was I wish I wish I
don't go into this they don't go into
this because people of course call The
Gospel books Matthew Mark Luke and joh
well they call them Matthew Mark Luke
and John because we don't know who wrote
these books and there's no point calling
them Sam Fred Jerry and Harry I mean
they're they're written by people we
don't know who they were written by they
are Anonymous you might not think so
because they have the title The Gospel
according to Matthew whoever put that
title on it was an editor later the
followers of Jesus were Aramaic speaking
peasants From Galilee lower class men
who were not educated in fact Peter and
John in Acts 4:13 are literally said to
be illiterate they couldn't read and
write of course not they were fishermen
they didn't go to school the vast
majority of people in the ancient world
never learned to read let alone write
and their native language was Aramaic
these books are written in Greek by
Highly Educated rhetorically trained
writers who are skilled in Greek
composition and I know this can be very
sensitive for for many people this is
not our intent to try to offend anybody
this is just uh an academic this is a
Bible scholar you also have other Bible
scholars Bruce Mesker and others who
talk about the uh how the Bible was
compiled so now if you contrast that
where he's talking about Matthew Mark
Luke and John you don't even we don't
know who the ma who the authors most
Christians think that this is actually
the disciple the companion of Jesus but
we don't even know who that time no one
was called Matthew people were called
Matthew the son of so Jean the son of so
but not one of the four is is is called
by the name of his father too really
strange wow then you have the then the
other point and again in that video with
the new Muslim sneo the uh person is
saying look these are ad haminim attacks
you're not addressing the point we
addressed the point now now we're moving
on to make a contrast just for better
Clarity and understanding and I would
love to meet that non-muslim if he's in
London actually I'm a l i love to meet
that non-muslim who appeared actually
because it looks like he's getting bits
and peace but he's not having the
real picture I mean we want the best for
him also I mean we want the best for
everybody this is Islam the Quran is a
mercy and a guidance for all of mankind
he's has a misunderstanding he's not
getting it right and we got the person
to help to unpackage this so now when
you look at the the Bible Anonymous
authors and then you also have a
language that the bar mentions that the
language spoken by Jesus was closer to
Arabic Aramaic can you elaborate on that
and then the Greek manuscripts that we
don't have a copy of a copy of a copy of
anything original is that right yes of
course the Quran is in Arabic and it was
compiled by Arabs sent to an Arab
messenger but the gospel was sent to
Jesus but we don't have of Jesus the
gopel of Jesus we don't have it but
actually there is it is there is a
mention of the Gospel of Jesus where is
the Gospel of Jesus they keep telling us
Gospel of so Gospel of so and every few
years we hear about a new gospel too so
yeah actually we do not disagree with
everything in the Bible by the way there
are things in the Bible that match with
the Quran like for
example we do not disagree with that on
anything but there is other things that
I don't know why Bible Scholars insist
that every single word has to be the
word of God for
example don't forget to bring me my coat
which I forgot in carpus
house this is an Ayah in the Bible and
according to Bible scholars it is the
word of the Holy Spirit I'm sorry I'm
not I'm not disagreeing with the content
of the Ayah but don't force me to
believe it's the word of God it's a
friendly message someone reminding his
friend to bring him his coat which he I
think this is in the letter of uh Paul
to someone actually and or for example
give my uh give my send my greetings to
Priscilla frisa in Arabic this is an
Ayah in in the book of God Don't force
people to believe that everything in
that book is from God I'm not talking
about the other things that may cause an
embarrassment I'm talking just about
things that cannot be the word of God
you uh mentioned in um the language
there you repeated something for people
that don't didn't understand what were
you saying the commonality that we do
agree with 100% and I kept putting my
one finger what is that the absolute yes
this this is an aah in in the Old
Testament this is in Aramaic it means
your lord is one yeah your lord Lord
your God is one it's it's it's one of
the F of the Ten Commandments hero
Israel the Lord thy God is one hero
Israel the Lord thy God is one this
isn't yes so we agree with this yes of
course of course we we agree with all
the Ten Commandments all the Ten
Commandments another thing let's give an
example of things that we would say
because we know the Bible is you have
some of the word of God in there word of
the prophets historians and then
ananymous books like you know we just
don't know who they are so you can't
blame us for being skeptical you can't
blame us for denying things that now are
in there let's give an example like when
you have um prophets being degraded you
know we hold them to the highest level
and you have prophets of God things that
are said in there that we wouldn't agree
with of course of course uh well
unfortunately for for U for the people
of the book prophets are like
celebrities they are cool but corrupt we
don't accept that because saying so it's
like saying that God himself is not
perfect because he did not he wasn't
able to choose good people to carry his
message couldn't he find more
respectable people than those who
committed adultery and and betrayal and
and all of these horrible things I'm
sorry I think I am much more better than
all of those prophets of the Bible
actually when I look at my my life I
didn't do these horrible things though
I'm a sinner and I committed sins but
not like that
this is attacking God
himself God is able to choose the best
of people to carry his message what's
what's difficult in this uh just to
bring it home before we conclude uh
people are seeing the manipulation the
spin that's happening with now this uh
genocide Gaza and you see um the control
of the media and whatnot but when you
had people at one time we know that the
Torah was revealed the inil was revealed
and it was left on the people to go
ahead and to not corrupt it they
corrupted it so the the spin at that
same thing you have the spin at this
time people at that time so people can
understand same thing happening can we
say that now people twisting and for
their own uh gain like God Almighty
Allah is saying woe to those who write
the book with their hands woe to them
for what they make bu therein and
whatnot so so people can understand
better the this can this be an example
that now those are those certain
passages of twist for what whatever
political gain personal gain those many
of those verses are the ones that uh
people change just and manipulated it's
not only manipulate it's also it's it's
there in the racist
mindset that's the problem when the
religion is built on
Race anti-sites what does Semite means
it's a race you shouldn't be anti anyone
you shouldn't hate anyone but the
problem here is okay when we tell them
okay guys how can we be andite if we are
Smite as well I am as an Arab I am a
descendant of them they say no don't you
know or not you're descending from ishma
yes ishma is Smite no because his mother
was Egyptian copt which and cops are
hites not seites so is was not 100%
samite and then is married also another
cup so his descendants are like 25%
samite so it all it's all here in the
racist mindset yes God said love your
neighbor said don't kill don't don't
don't but this applies on
semites equality for the equals
understand here and that's what Islam
came to destroy Islam came against this
mindset racist mindset Islam came like
telling us there is no privilege for an
Arab over in an Arab nor for a white
over a black except according to the
righteousness
I'll tell you something you know
B this black
Ethiopian uh ex slave you know who who
who he was married
to he was married to the sister of the
most uh Rich billionaire in the Arab
world at that time he was married to uh
what's her name uh the the sister of
ABD
ABD his Caravan when when his Caravan
entered Medina people in Medina used to
feel like it's an earthquake 700 big
trucks big camels uh uh loaded with
loads of merchandise coming from Syria
so people used to feel like there's an
earthquake no that's a caravan of ABD
well his sister was an Arab from high
lineage who meets with Prophet Muhammad
in the sixth uh uh grandfather and the
the sister of the the richest person in
Arabia and she's married to a black
person a non-arab he's African and EXs
slave but that's what Islam came to do
to change the culture to change the
mindset to clean it from racism does
this book that you read the Quran this
way of life that you follow Islam that
we follow teach you to be
anti-jew no no no no no no the Quran
speaks about Jews very objectively the
Quran Praises Jews here do you know that
the Quran
says
um and we have made from among them the
sons of
Israel leaders who are guiding people to
my command when they showed patience and
perseverance but at the same time he
criticized killing the prophets or does
anyone agree with killing
people especially prophets so and the
Quran says for example if you sometimes
yeah there are people who are antistatic
and when you stop them in the seat and
you ask them about Jews they tell you
Jews they don't respect a word they
don't respect their vows the Quran
said isn't it true that every time
they make a vow a group of them breaks
that vow he didn't say all of them the
Quran teaches us not to
generalize the issue is we do not think
Jews are bad people but also we don't
believe that they are chosen by God no
one is chosen we believe that Jews are
people normal people like any people
among them are good people and bad
people that's
it were they um chosen at that time and
then they lost the responsibility I mean
they didn't f up fulfill the
responsibility or has some explained or
no there's nothing to say chosen but
they were preferred by sending them a
lot of Messengers but actually sending
them a lot of Messengers and Prophets
like that may not also be a good
sign yeah so the issue is they were the
Nation of Islam they were the Muslims of
that time for over 2,000 years they were
the Muslims of that time so if you post
something out there I've put out there
that Jesus Moses was a Muslim and now
people are trying to figure that out
they think like what are you talking
about Islam came uh 14400
years this book should be read with
pondering Moses
said and Moses said oh my people if you
really believe in Allah then put your
trust him if you are real Muslims he
didn't say
Jews Jesus
said and Jesus said who are my helpers
to Allah the disciples said we are your
helpers to Allah and bear witness that
we are Muslims the Disciples of Jesus
are like Abu Bakr and Omar and Ali and
for us so Jesus was a Muslim of course
Moses was a Muslim of course Abraham was
a all the prophets that God Almighty
Allah the Creator sent they were Muslims
uh and that that Define that word
because you were quoting the Quran a
Muslim is what what does that mean what
is a Muslim excellent excellent we
believe that there's only one God and
many people will agree with us on that
one God and only one
humankind because there's no difference
between us men are not better than women
whites are are not better than blacks
Arabs are not better than Indians so if
there is one God and one humankind this
means that we have one sender and one
recipient if there's only one sender and
one recipient why would the same sender
send to the same recipient different or
contradicting messages to confuse them
definitely not so it was always one
sender sending the same message to the
same recipient good so it was always one
religion we don't believe in religions
with an S one religion so one God
one humankind one religion but many
books and many messengers of the same
religion good which religion is this it
has to be a religion that is suitable
for
everyone for the whites and the blacks
and the men and the women and the tall
and the short and the fat and the thin
for everyone what is suitable for
everyone if I want to offer you tea I
have to ask you first do you drink tea
because maybe you don't drink tea if I
want to offer you coffee I have to ask
you first maybe you don't drink coffee
the only thing that is put in front of
you without asking is what
water why what's the difference between
water and tea and coffee they're all
liquids no they are not all liquids
water has no color had water been blue
which is a beautiful color some of us
will not drink will not drink it water
has does not smell anything had water
smell Beautiful smell like uh musk or
davidof some of us will not drink it had
water been sweet or salty some of us
will not drink it but because water is
pure no color no taste and no smell
everyone drinks it so the religion of
God has to be unlimited suitable for all
people it cannot be named after
someone Christianity after Christ I
person a beautiful person but a person
Buddhism after Buddha it cannot be
called after a a group of people Judaism
after Judas the tribe of Judas it cannot
be called after a geographic region
Hinduism after hind India limited it has
to
be
named um to uh obey God the religion of
obeying God surrender to God Islam so we
are not named after Prophet Muhammad
when we are called muhammadans we find
it offensive though we love him so much
we love the dust that he that he stepped
on but we cannot accept to be called
muhammadans because we're not
muhammadans so what are we we are
Muslims like him and like Jesus and
Moses and Abraham it's one religion with
many books and many Messengers believe
me Islam is is a beautiful philosophy
that does not need people to be
philosophers to understand
it how do you like to address the
question when they say you are the
Muslims are
Antichrist oh my
God we we are always worried about the
Antichrist when he appears the is the
Antichrist when one day he is going to
come and show people who he will follow
or who who who will be his followers and
who not actually I'll just tell
Christians one thing pray like
him go to the to the to the to the uh
passage I think in Matthew
2639 yes and he went a little further
and fell on his face and prayed do you
know how this is translated in
Arabi Arab Christians transl pled it and
fell on his knees and prayed not on his
face though in Greek it's on his face in
Aramaic it's on his face in every other
language on his face but not in the
Arabi Bible
why they don't want who to know that
Jesus prayed like them
wow Muslim Jesus prayed like us Jesus
greeted like us
shalum what all I want to tell my
Christian Brothers follow Jesus as as he
preached in your book in your book do
you agree with me that God has to be the
greatest no one can be greater than God
definitely okay Jesus said the father is
greater than
I is Jesus lying he's not lying so Jesus
is saying that the father is great Jesus
is saying that he's not the greatest how
can he be God also God must be able to
do
everything Jesus said I can I can do no
out of my own self I can do nothing
which means he needs the help of God
this is not the tone of a God speaking
also G Jes God has to be all knowing he
said about this day or this hour no one
has
knowledge not the angels and not the son
the father alone has knowledge oh Subhan
Allah that's why Allah told
us they made God one out of
three they worshiped God and the
messenger that he sent and the angel
that he sent to the messenger a package
why did you do
so so we love Jesus of course we love
Moses we love all the messengers of God
and the final messenger Prophet Muhammad
peace and blessings be upon them they
were all ones who did Islam submission
to the will of God Almighty and they
were Muslims those who submit and
surrender to God as you beautifully
stated I want to get your last reaction
to this because a lot of the programming
Muslims are terrorists this that and the
other and we have one of the most famous
Christians in
America tackling this topic as a bank
really for these wars is because
Americans don't know anything we know
very after 911 I think about it now the
propaganda to make me afraid of Muslims
I can't even imagine being a Muslim
growing up after 911 in America because
I know how I felt about them and I was I
was young I was 11 years old but that
beating every day in our heads that
every Muslim was a terrorist was the
idea that you got I make jokes about it
but like you don't like I had to shave
my face to go to airports my mom would
make me shave my face like at school
like I was so young this is actually fun
I had a mustache in like the fourth
grade and my mom made me n it cuz she
was like you got to like because it was
really really bad cuz whatever your like
the household would say the kids have no
filter so they would just say whatever
they wanted to me but at a young age I
realized that I myself as a middle
eastern was racist too I was like oh
it's not us it's them and so I would
point my finger out of fear I'm like no
no they did it but then I went to um uh
what country did I just go to sorry um I
went to Saudi Arabia and I don't think
I've ever been to a country that was
more hospitable to me the the love that
I got the respect that I got I literally
sat back and I myself out to draw on a
podcast I go wow I was brainwashed I was
so scared I didn't bring her yeah yeah
same and and so first I want to say just
like to all Muslims growing up during my
time in America I am sorry on behalf of
America for the way that you were
treated that it is so unacceptable when
I go back and I reexamine that
propaganda that brainwashing that took
place in the classroom to make me scared
of something I didn't even know what a
Muslim was I remember going to the
airport and someone was a Hindu and I
was scared of him like oh my God they
going take this off of his head I
thought that was a Muslim right there
was no education about anything and the
reason for that you know he who controls
the textbooks controls the entire
country in my view right it was because
everything that we did responding to 911
should be assessed as whether or not
they were crimes against humanity bombed
a million Iraqi civilians we killed a
milon what we doing in Iraq were they
just said there's weapons of mass
destruction and then they never found
them but they in the process they killed
a million Iraqi civilians right and we
it made us think it's okay to just keep
bombing Muslims that that was the
purpose to me of that educational
propaganda and brain your reaction what
my reaction I'm a Muslim I was a Muslim
in America after 911 actually actually
I'm a Survivor of 9111 itself but that's
a different topic okay we can talk about
that later but on the day on that day
when we went to the uh back to the to
the hotel and there were other people
with us with beers and stuff and they
were afraid to go and walk in the street
I we were we became very hungry we were
in the Broadway area we became very
hungry and I told them you can't go out
and walk like that in the street of New
York I'll go out and see if we can find
something to eat because actually even
room service was not working in the
hotel everybody left uh to to their
houses and stuff so I went and I I I I
walked the street of New York on that
day and I was able to buy things and I
went back and I told them guys because
they are all the time watching CNN and
they are very worried I told them guys
everything is normal downstairs we are
in the Broadway area nightclubs cinemas
theaters are working I can hear the
music inside and people are entering
they say get out I said I I swear while
eating Rudy Giuliani appeared and he
announced the closure of all theaters
starting this moment so it was working
and then I made it after a few days to
Washington DC where I lived because I
had to go there for my family and and uh
when I went there I found something
amazing many Americans were very
supportive many non-muslim women were
wearing hijab coming to the to the
mosques telling us we will escort your
women to the malls so that if any
fanatic is going to attack a Muslim
woman should know that he is maybe
attacking one of us a non Muslim after
one month the same
supporters used to spit in the on the
floor when they see us and walk to the
other on the other direction why what
happened don't tell me
911 after 911 they were supportive but
it was the
brainwashing that they were subjected to
in the media at that time I remember if
you sit in front of TV any channel for
one hour you will see the footage of the
Taliban uh shooting a woman in her head
in the soccer
field five times before the program
after the program during the program
during the commercials brainwashing all
the
time so we hate actually uh terrorism
but when we are when you point at people
and charge them with something you need
to know what it means what is Terrorism
do you know that
150 monarchs and presid presidents met
in the United Nations in 2003 for two
days a summit on two days to Define
terrorism you know what happened after
two days the summit ended without a
definition you know why they said
everyone knows what it is no it's not
that it's because had they Define it
half of them at least have to go to
jail terrorism according to political
scientists is to Target not to kill
Target because you may not kill you just
Target to Target non combatants not
civilians because some civilians can be
militia if you target non-combatants
with the aim of pushing a political or
an economic
agenda so definitely what happened on
911 was terrorism and it's unacceptable
but what happened in Hiroshima and
nagazaki is also terrorism and
unacceptable 77 unacceptable terrorism
the blitz
terrorism bomic London terrorism all
this is
Terrorism but don't tell me that you're
going to apply the definition on only
people because of how they look or
because of their color but you're not
going to apply it on other people or on
governments actually governments should
be more
responsible but governments are not
responsible at all many people who are
by the way you know what I mean I
believe I believe that there is no
terrorism at all there's no terrorists
there's only something worse than
terrorists there is
politicians they far more dangerous than
terrorists some politicians are in
office and some are not in office and
those in office call politicians who are
not in office
terrorists and maybe they are not maybe
both of them are seeing someone like
Candis Owens a Christian someone who is
one of the most um on the conservative
she just got fired from the daily wire
to hear her come out like that we
commend her we really do and I invite
her to come on the program so we can
have a nice discussion and talk about
those commonalities and work together on
the common good what would you uh say to
uh Candace Owens I mean and others who
are also brave enough and seeing her now
and they feel that inside they know
something's not right but it's her to
come out brave enough to go ahead and
apologize on behalf of the American
people this is so brave this is so Brave
and and you started to see the truth
continue searching for the truth is a
journey is a very beautiful
Journey don't think that you will be
alone even if people boycott you you
will not be alone if you read this you
will never be
alone because if you are backed by God
who can be against you but if God is
against you who can be backing you no
one if people want to see more uh you've
produced some you're the director of the
fog is lifting it's a series docu series
YouTube channel this is not a gas
station I work for it's the organization
Bridges Foundation Channel on YouTube
and there's a lot of English playlist of
course you'll find over 100 Arabic
playlists but there are also English
playlists go to them and watch one of
them is called the fog is lifting
documentaries three documentaries that I
made one of them is about women called
Islam in women not women in Islam it's
not a mistake and one of them is called
Jihad on terrorism one of the speakers
is is is one of the lawyers who spoke in
the icj by the way Philip Sans and um
and one called Islam in brief which
explains Islam briefly in 77
minutes I want to thank you thank you
for spending some time with us and
clarifying all of this and we did not
even tackle the topic that we were
supposed to speak about today next time
inshallah
inshah thank you thank you very much sh
and I want to thank you guys for tuning
in and we cleared that misconception or
the doubt that try to put out there so
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charity and walk for yourself in this
project that brings you continuous
charity for the rest of your life until
the day of judgment support the dean
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