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I don't know why I did that maybe maybe
it's just to break the iceam
alayum thank you for being with us it's
a pleasure and honor to be here thank
you thank you very much and it's a
pleasure and honor to have you on the
show tell us I got to apologize I
chopped your name up it's okay it's
quite commonly uh you know mistaken how
how do you say it now it's naade Aziz
okay naade Aziz tella you're with the uh
El magb Institute correct correct and
you're born bred in Montreal correct Y
and you finished from the prestigious
Medina University correct last year y so
we're not talking to a car mechanic
about Islam we're talking to somebody
who knows this Dean this way of life I'd
like to hope so tell us a little bit
more about yourself uh well I was born
in 1981 in uh Montreal Quebec and I
spent the vast majority of my youth in
Montreal with the exception of about 2
and 1/2 years which were between New
York and Pakistan and the rest of my
youth was spent in Montreal just like an
average guy and then around the age of
14 I was actually introduced to Dr Abu
Phillips he had come to Montreal and uh
he had a very large influence on myself
and upon my family and he actually
encouraged me to pursue the path of
seeking knowledge and that is what I
started to do at the age of 14 I started
memorizing Quran at that time and
studying Islamic Studies as well as
Arabic on the side and then uh Upon
finishing College I pursued the Islamic
University of Medina where I just
finished from last year now at the age
of 14 you got many youth involved in
gangs trying to get fake IDs to get to
the nightclubs doing all sorts of things
besides surrender and submission to God
alone right and you're over here
pursuing knowledge how did this happen
how did this come about um my parents
and my immediate family played a very
big role in that especially my mom's
sister's husband he was very practicing
at that time and he would see me all the
time he instead of letting me play
basketball he's like okay let's go to
the Masjid we're doing this or he tried
to actually initiate basketball at the
Masid instead so he tried to combine
them both and this is what you see with
the vast majority of uh youth that are
raised practicing that they managed to
combine their Dean with their D in one
way or another because if you actually
try to separate the two then that's
where problems occur but Islam rather
than just being a religion of worship
it's actually a complete way of life
unless you accept it as a complete way
of life there's going to be a deficiency
in one place or in the other so I think
that's what the biggest problem is when
people try to uh divide Islam into a
religious way and then um you know
another way of life or what it may be
how did you come to the firm conviction
that this was indeed the way of life of
all the messengers of God the last and
final messenger of prophet Muhammad
peace be upon them the way of life that
was ordained by the creator of the
heavens and the Earth were you just
going around uh going along with
tradition culture what your parents were
doing or did you actually look into the
other ways how did you come to know that
this was indeed the way of life from the
creator of the heavens and earth um upon
reading texts from the Quran and the
Sunnah I realized that Allah subhana wa
tala took into consideration the three
aspects of man the mind the body and the
soul and it is only a complete and
perfect religion that would be able to
do so and if it's complete and perfect
from that aspect it had to be revealed
from God and this is why I was convinced
that this was the way to go forward now
tell us the first
evidence that's a living Miracle is the
verbatim word of God correct Allah in
Arabic we say the Quran correct tell us
some of the elements that make this
indeed something that if somebody looks
into it they're going to come to the
same realization that over 1.5 billion
people have come to today well there's
several aspects to the Quran you can
divide the Quran into two aspects aspect
number one is stories of the people of
the past and aspects number two is in
terms of rulings and regulations and to
even make the first category more
General let's just conclude it with
information versus that of rulings so
when it comes to information Allah
subhana wa T gives us information about
the creation of the heavens and the
Earth the creation of mankind how he
came from a small clot of blood and thus
became a full human being obviously when
the time of the quran's Revelation these
things weren't known to scientists they
weren't known to the doctors so this had
to be from God himself that he revealed
this to the prophet sallallahu alaihi
wasallam so we have a scientific aspect
to it as well then you have a linguistic
aspect to it if you study the Quran
you'll see that the pros of the Quran is
so perfect and the grammatical rules of
the Quran are so perfect that had it
been from man himself you would have
found deficiencies or mistakes I mean
look at the best authors of our times
today they can write you know hundreds
and hundreds of books but not a single
of them will be free from flaw whereas
this book that was sent to a man who was
unable to read and write the prophet
sallallahu alaihi wasallam is free from
deficiency from a grammatical and from a
poetic Pros point of view so that is
point number two point number three that
there's other information in terms of
people of the past especially the
prophets and the righteous people that
it is not possible that a man who did
not know how to read or write and did
not leave meccah you know until past a
certain amount of AG that he would have
been able to gather this information so
thus it had to be from Revelation as
well so I think these are three key
aspects that prove the uh Divinity of
the Quran we have a lot of non Muslims
they're tuning in you said another
Arabic word you said Allah some people
might have a misconception that this is
some Moon God right some other crazy
ideas who is
Allah linguistically if you look at the
word Allah the correct position is that
the word Allah is actually derived from
the term Al which means that the one who
is worshiped and they often refer to
Christianity Judaism and Islam as the
monotheistic religions based upon this
very fact that they have this one entity
that they call God that they worship and
in theory this is accurate but obviously
due to other differences you we
eventually see that Islam is the only
monotheistic religion at the end of the
day so Allah subhana wa taala or Allah
glorified and exalted is he in Islam is
the entity that created all of us and
sustains all of us and grants us all of
our blessings and sustenance and
likewise if he is able to grant you all
of that then by default he grants you
that which is more important which is
guidance you know that which you need to
survive in this world and in the
Hereafter as well so that is what we
refer Allah so this is the one true
creator oh definitely without a doubt
now give us real quick because this is
very important give us some attributes
because some people would think that the
Creator is a man is the sun is the moon
and other parts of creation so give us
the true attributes of Allah when we
talk about Allah subhana wa ta'ala we
have to keep two things in mind mind one
Allah is not like his creation that
Allah being the Creator he is not like
his creation so when give when you give
him attributes even we though we may use
terms that are similar to that of uh
humans we still need to realize that
they're in a way or in a form that are
befitting his majesty secondly we have
to realize that Allah subhana wa ta'ala
he revealed characteristics about
himself so that we may actually know or
may be able to relate to it because
imagine if you have a God that you
cannot relate anything to you know there
would be that disconnect so Allah
subhana wa T is a balance between the
two that he describes himself as the
ultimate entity that has some Sim
similarities to man but in a way that is
befitting of his majesty so when Allah
talks about himself and this is the uh
the one proof from the Quran that
explains everything when we talk about
Allah Allah
says that there's nothing similar unto
Allah and Allah is the all hearing and
the allseeing so Allah affirms one hand
that there's nothing similar to him but
at the same time Allah is affirming for
himself sight and hearing which are
characteristics of a human being so in
terms of characteristics of Allah
subhana wa ta'ala you would have to
affirm several of them by default and
when you think about God you would have
to know that he is alive you'd have to
know that he is the all- knowing the
allseeing the all hearing and that he is
able to do all things these are things
that any common or any educate level of
Education would have to accept you know
you don't have to be a great philosopher
or a PhD doctor to accept this and in
terms of other aspects how you we Allah
also tells us about his Mercy because
you know when you think of God as humans
we commit sins we need a God that is
merciful likewise we need a God that
will that will hold us to account
therefore Allah is Al as well so there
are a lot of characteristics and
attributes that we can talk about Allah
subh but the ultimate Criterion of what
it comes down to is whatever is
perfection is Allah before we get into
our main topic tell us because you said
and there might be some non-muslim out
there who have has this in his head
because you said Allah is able to do all
things and some people think that he
became a man or had a son what do you
got to say about this I would say about
this that there's a problem in the
question and not in the answer itself
that in order why would God need to
become a man why would need why would he
need to have a son this would actually
be a form of deficiency yeah and
interesting story that took place by a
great scholar by the name of he was a
linguistic
uh scholar and people came to him and
they said you know the Christians want
to meet with you and they want to you
know have a discussion with you so he's
like sure no problem so uh he goes and
enters the uh the monastery and he
greets all the priests and he says you
know how are you doing how are your your
family how's your kids and people
started to uproar and they're like you
know how can you insult our priests like
that how could you insult our priest
don't you know that they're celbrate
they don't get married and they don't
have children and then he said that if
this is a disgrace for human beings then
how about the one who created you how
can you affirm children for good example
anal so you know it's normal for men to
have kids because this is what human
beings do but Allah is different from
man there's no need for him to have kids
and there's no reason that he would come
in human form this is what
differentiates God from man the fact
that he is different this is amazing
what a beautiful analogy let's get into
this subject of Hadith because we have
the miraculous living Miracle the Quran
saved, 14400 years that has been
unchanged Miracle after Miracle you want
science in there your purpose of life is
in there where you going when your diets
in there but now there's another part
there's some confusion for some Muslims
and also some people who are coming to
Islam they want to know the second
miracle that has come that goes hand
inand with the Quran is this Hadith talk
to us a little bit about the okay um in
terms of the Hadith of the Prophet
sallallahu alaihi wasallam I think when
we get into this discussion two things
have to be discussed number one is the
authority of the Sunnah and its
relationship to the Quran so I guess
we'll start with that first Allah
subhana waala throughout of the Quran he
says and in other ayat he
says that obey Allah and obey the
messenger and those in Authority amongst
you so Allah subhana wa tala in this
Ayah inaha which is I believe is Surah
number four Ayah number 59 he says obey
Allah and obey the messenger and those
in Authority amongst you so Allah
subhana wa tala over here is saying
unconditionally you have to obey Allah
and unconditionally you have to obey the
prophet sallallahu alaihi wasallam and
then conditionally this is actually a
linguistic benefit of the Ayah then
conditionally you have to Bey those in
Authority amongst you he says
he didn't
mention in this Ayah and the point of
this is that you have to obey the first
to unconditionally and the second the
third is conditionally based upon the
Sharia yes so in order for this
commandment to be relevant at all times
and we know that the Quran is a message
for all times this necessitates that the
sunah of the Prophet sallallahu alaihi
wasallam would have to be preserved in
one way or another but let's put that on
the side for one point IB Abbas who was
one of the greatest Scholars of t or
exist as we call in English He narrated
that when the prophet sallallahu alaihi
wasallam was alive this is what it meant
to obey the prophet sallallahu alaihi
wasallam and after the death of the
Prophet sallallahu alh wasallam it meant
that we would follow his Sunnah so this
is point number one in terms of
authority the Quran is at the same level
as the Sunnah and the Sunnah is at the
same level as the Quran and the texts of
this are many mhm
Point number two in this in terms of the
relationship of the Quran to the Hadith
Allah subhana wa tala says in another
Ayah in that indeed we have revealed
unto you a so that you may explain to
mankind that which was revealed to them
so here Allah is talking about a
different Revelation that was revealed
to the prophet sallallahu alaihi
wasallam so that he may explain a
previous Revelation so the initial
Revelation is the Quran and the second
Revelation that was revealed to the
prophet sallallahu alaihi wasallam was
the Sunnah itself and point number three
this is further emphasized in an Ayah in
where Allah subhana
says that he does not speak of his own
desire of his own accord but rather he
speaks that which is revelation so all
of these ayat put together with the
other various ayat they indicate and
prove that the Quran comes along with
the Sunnah and the Sunnah in fact is an
explanation for the Quran and this is
why you'll see that Allah subhana wa
tala speaks in various gener moralities
and ambiguities in the Quran and the
Sunnah there comes to explain it and
this is one of the easiest arguments
against those people that deny the
Sunnah of the Prophet sallallahu alaihi
wasallam how do you learn to pray how do
you know that you have to
pray all these things are not mentioned
in the Quran you can't do it without the
exactly you need the sun we're dependent
upon it so in terms of authority I think
the debate is pretty much of no value
where the debate actually starts to
occur is in terms of the preservation of
the Sunnah and its validity until our
times today this is where you can get a
bit Technical and if you allow me I'd
like to explain that as well yeah if you
don't mind can you go into that now for
someone who says okay I know that the
Quran is preserved but now how do I know
that man hasn't had his share of putting
in his own words into these Hadith
excellent so now we mention in our Point
number two that Allah revealed the Quran
in sorry he revealed the of the prophet
in order to explain the Quran so if the
explanation is needed almost as much as
the Quran if not more then how does it
make sense logically that only the
origin would be preserved but not its
explanation because what good is that
origin without its explanation so from a
logical point of view we understand that
the Sunnah needed to be preserved but
now let's look at some of the texts
pertaining to that as well Allah
says that we will preserve a right yes
we revealed the and we shall preserve it
so this is a promise from Allah subhana
wa taala that anything that takes the
title of a or the remembrance of Allah
subhana wa taala it shall be preserved
without a doubt so that is point number
one point number two if you look in
terms of the Chron chronology of the
preservation of the Sunnah you will see
that the prophet sallallahu alaihi
wasallam had scribes for the Sunnah just
as he had cribes for the Quran so these
two did mix now one was assigned for the
writing of the Quran and the others were
prescribed for writing of the of the
prophet and this is authentically
established and you'll see that even in
one of the narrations of sahkari we all
know that the most famous companion for
narrating Hadith when you think of the
most famous companion who do you think
of Abu
Abu he narrated the most from the
prophet sallallahu alaih wasallam he has
another narration in sahkari which says
that there is no companion that know
knew more Hadith than me except for
abdah and he said why is that he said
because he used to write down a Hadith
during the time of the Prophet
sallallahu alaihi wasallam so this is
indication number one indication number
two he had a scroll from the prophet
sallallahu alaihi wasallam that he had
written down himself that he had saved
in a treasure chest which is and had
saved in the chest which is mentioned
inah alar body as well Point number
three is when we study the chapter of
zakat we know that we derive the rulings
from the Quran and the sunah the primary
source for the Sunnah in terms of
driving rulings of zakat is a letter
that wrote to an who is a governor in
another land so Omar writes to anas and
he says that this is what the prophet
sallallahu alaihi wasallam taught me in
terms of the dividing of the zakat and
how much zakat to take and I advise you
with the exact same thing and he had it
written down and sent to us so we can
see that during the time of the Prophet
sallallahu alaihi wasallam a Hadith were
actually being written down and the
prophet sallallahu alaihi wasallam had
no problem with this a lot of people
will come up with a point over here and
they say we have an authentic Hadith
where the Prophet sallallahu alaihi
wasallam says that I forbid you from
writing down a Hadith they'll take this
general term and they say this proves
that he did not want the Hadith to be
written down but we say to this that
this has to be taken in its proper
context and one of the great Scholars of
Hadith who came in the 8th Century he
said that one of two things takes place
over here either this Hadith was
abrogated meaning that this is in the
advocacy of Islam and it was later on
abrogated because obviously we know the
companions they wouldn't to disobey the
prophet sallallahu alaihi wasallam thus
they would have destroyed their Scrolls
Point number two and this actually makes
more sense is that this ruling was
particular for those who were writing
down the Quran the prophet did not want
them to record Hadith so that it
wouldn't be mixed with the Quran and one
would be confused or construed with the
other so this is a reputation to that
point so this is in terms of the
companions writing down the Hadith and
you will notice that the prophet
sallallah Ali wasallam actually took
great precaution in the companions
narrating Hadith of the Prophet
sallallahu alaih wasallam as well just
to mention three brief points on this
issue the prophet sallallahu alaihi
wasallam says in one Hadith may Allah
brighten the face of a man who narrates
a Hadith from us just as he heard it so
here is a form of encouragement Point
number two the prophet sallallahu alaihi
wasallam said that let none of you
withhold knowledge if he is asked about
anything and if he were to do so then he
would be branded from the Hellfire so
Point number one is to learn the Hadith
memorize it and narrate it just as you
heard as you heard it Point number two
is that if asked about the sun of the
prophet sallallah alhi wasallam and you
don't make it clear to the people then
know that you will be branded from the
Hellfire and then pointing number three
he further emphasized this he said that
let whoever lies upon me intentionally
prepare his seat in the hell fire so he
psychologically prepared the companions
of the Prophet to memorize the Hadith
just as he learned them and convey them
diligently and to beware of fabricating
anything and this is why they're called
the most trustworthy of Nations so this
this is just at the level of the
Companions and I'm sure you want to
include something over here what is the
meticulous nature of the collection of
the Hadith knowing can you describe the
biography of the person and what would a
person have to fill as far as qualities
for that Hadith to be accepted and how
many people does it line up from a b c
to the last and final message of Propet
muham peace be upon okay in terms of a
Hadith to be authentic there are five
conditions that need to be met condition
number one is what they
call that it has to be a connected chain
of narration from the prophet sallallahu
alaihi wasallam to the person who's
compiling it so we got to know who's in
between you have to know everyone who's
in between and those people they
actually have characteristics condition
number two is what they
call means they have to have absolute
perfect Precision in narrating theith of
the Prophet sallallah alaih wasallam
Point number three
is that they have to be trustworthy
people that not only do their memories
have to be on point but they have to be
people who are away from sin and away
from Innovation yeah Point number four
is or a lack of contradiction or
opposition between the narrations
amongst themselves and then the fifth
condition
is or a lack or absence of a um what
they would call a sickness or a disease
in the Hadith or a weakness the Hadith
that would cause it to be weak to give
you an example of this um IM Muslim he
tries to make a point in his sah uh
about a particular Hadith and this is
the well-known Hadith the seven people
who will be under the shade of Allah
subhana waala on the day that there is
no shade except his shade all of the
narrations of this Hadith they say that
the a man gave charity so secretly that
the left hand will not know what the
right hand gave but Imam Muslim he want
to prove a point in his sah he goes on
with the narration that the left hand
will give that which the right hand will
not know so it's the exact opposite so
this type of deficiency it is even
recorded along with sah collections just
to prove a point that this is an
inauthentic narration so all these
things meticulously put together you're
studying a connected chain of people
where you know their names their
teachers names their father's names and
everyone that they study with and you
know the level of precision of their
memory and you know how trustworthy they
were in terms of their religion an
average person in our times not be
allowed to narrate Hadith due to various
reasons from them is that our memories
are nothing close to what the memories
of the people of the past were and two
our dedication to the religion is
nothing like theirs as well just to give
one example we have the likes of
imar who was narrated to have said about
himself that when he wanted to memorize
a book that had two pages he'd have to
cover one side because it would
interfere with his mind when he would
read the other side so he would read a
page once and he hadd have to cover the
other side so it wouldn't interfere in
his mind and he'd be able to memorize a
page like that and similar stories have
been narrated about Imam shaf and other
great imams as well and in terms of
their piety it's narrated that imari in
the month of Ramadan he would finish the
Quran every three nights at night time
in Salah and then during the day he
would finish the Quran once in terms of
sitting and reciting the Quran so this
is a totally different level of py and a
totally different level of you know uh
preservation and memorization of the
text that we're talking about so without
a doubt when you apply these very
constraining rules to Hadith without a
doubt you know you'd have to have even
this science of himself would have to be
a form of Revelation from Allah subhana
wa tala in order for it to be so perfect
so can you equate this from some of the
messengers in the past where at their at
that time their time if you were living
during the time of Jesus peace be upon
them Moses that they were the
walking instructionals they were the
walking examples of the Revelation that
was given to them for that time for
instance Moses he was teaching the
people about the
Torah Jesus peace be upon him he was
teaching the people about the inel so
today we have the last and final
Revelation sent to mankind the Quran and
the messenger the last and final
messenger sent to mankind he is teaching
us through the Hadith the Quran exactly
I definitely agree with that but this is
the same thing makes sense oh yes I mean
this was the job of the messenger to
explain the Revelation that was revealed
to him and it would actually be unjust
and unfair that a messenger would pass
away and his message not be preserved
and this message has been preserved
meticulously whereas oppose the
messengers before they were for that
time that people and we don't have it
today since this is the very last
message till the day of judgment it had
to be preserved meticulously whereas the
other religions they would have
abrogation and other religions would
come thereafter therefore it wasn't as
much of a necessity to preserve them
because a further Revelation was was
coming whereas in our situation there is
no further Revelation Allah subhana T
says that he was the Seal of the
prophets yes closing comments and
suggestions for those who are looking
into Islam for those who have accepted
Islam give him some uh some good advice
my advice for those people is something
which I personally benefited from sah
alari itself IM
alkar he starts off his collection of
Hadith with the first chapter being the
beginning of Revelation and this is what
you would think that Imam Al bukari
would be talking about in this chapter
but amazingly the very first Hadith he
brings is thei of where he
says
that indeed actions are by intentions
and every man shall have that which he
intends so from this we derive that imar
was setting a standard for all the
Muslims that whether you're writing a
book of Hadith whether you're reading a
book of Hadith whether you're eating
whether you're sleeping whether you're
drinking try to purify your intention as
much as possible purify your intention
because when you purify your intention
this is when the help of Allah subhana
wa ta'ala comes and this is how you
improve yourself that each time you do
something you have a specific intention
of what you want to achieve and what you
want to get out of it so you're actually
measuring your status in terms of where
you are going so that is point number
one point number two the last book inar
is called or the chapter of monotheism
of Allah subhana wa tala and the Hadith
he ends off with over here
is that there are two words which are
light on the tongue yet are heavy on the
scales and are beloved to Alman meaning
the most merciful and the most
compassionate and they are Subhan
subh and the point that IM is trying to
do over here is that at the end of every
act of worship that you do you thank
Allah subhana wa tala that you were able
to do this because it is only by his
favor and his Blessing that you are able
to do it and the fact that he chose you
specifically to increase yourself in
knowledge to do any act of worship to do
any form of good is a blessing from
Allah subhana wa T himself that he needs
to be thanked for so this is what I
would summarize as my advice to all
Muslims that purify and renew your
intentions and then thank Allah subhana
for all the blessings he has given you
may God Almighty the creator of the
heavens and earth Allah reward you for
being with us today amen and you as one
thank you very much and thank you and
everybody here for being with us here
today on the dean show we look forward
to to seeing you next week here
inshallah God willing until then assalam
alaykum peace be unto
you
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you take that necessary step you don't
know if you're going to live till
tomorrow so you got to find that urgency
to do the right thing right
now the reality of Life usually doesn't
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