asalam Alum greetings of peace I'm
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episode of the dean show with another
exciting guest now islamophobes have no
compunction hiding under the pretense of
free speech which is actually hate
speech while going on a bigoted hate
fueled Witch Hunt against Muslims and
Islam while my next guest get this my
next guest was fired from his university
job as a professor for critical thinking
and asking some of the six wi questions
and what are those six y questions we be
we'll be discussing and asking those
same questions with you today and let
you be the judge and we'll also be
trying to get to the bottom of why did
Alex Jones take a turn and all of a
sudden start attacking
Islam all this and more with my next
guest Dr Kevin when we come back Salam
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Dr Kevin how are you sir hey it's good
to be with you Eddie thank you for being
with us yeah well it's wonderful to be
on your show I've seen seen your show
for years going back and uh it's it's
great what you're doing thank you very
much thank you can you tell us um how
did you get into you've written a lot of
books you've gotten into an area that
many people would think is you know
there's labels people call people
conspiracy theorists you know they make
them look like they're crazy whatever
the case uh anyone who questions
anything of an official story it's like
okay whatever the media puts out there
you got to swallow what is that hook
bait and sinker right and anyone
questions anything but your question you
went down some rabbit holes I've going
down all the rabbit holes yeah it took
me a while you know but I started going
down rabbit holes when I was what the 16
17 years old and discovered that the JFK
assassination was a coupet in the United
States I realized that American
democracy was not quite what we were
being told it was and that didn't
completely change my life overnight I
still went through a normal kind of
academic career track looking to be at
first an English teacher French teacher
Humanities teacher then I came to Islam
in
1993 and decided to learn Arabic so I
got into my PhD program and I was
planning to be just kind of a normal
Professor but after 911 a couple years
after 911 actually at the end of 2003 I
looked into 911 closer after hearing
that David Ray Griffin was working on it
and saying it was an inside job and so I
looked at that evidence and was
convinced and realized that this was so
important that it was worth pursuing and
so I've been jumping down all the rabbit
holes ever since why was it so important
well this launched a new era uh not only
in American politics but in in the world
Politics as well you know we're now
living through the so-called Clash of
civilizations which is basically a war
on Islam and as Muslims we know that we
are obliged to stand up for what's right
you know to to enjoin the good and
forbid the bad uh to speak truth to
power to follow the example of prophet
Muhammad peace upon him he and his
companions were in a much more difficult
situation than we are today uh they were
under oppression uh by an oligarchy that
was mistreating people and that's the
real example of Islam at the ethical
level and I felt obliged to follow that
I couldn't see myself spending seven
years on the career track uh keeping my
mouth shut about this so I started
speaking out and uh all hell broke loose
so you you are a what how can you um
Define your career at that time wait how
old were you at that time oh I would
have been in my 40s I guess so you were
a university Professor no I would I just
finished my PhD in 2004 actually so I
actually it was just as I was finishing
the PHD that I discovered uh this 9911
evidence yeah and it was it was bad
timing because normally you have to
spend about seven years pursuing tenure
before you feel like you have any job
security but I couldn't see keeping my
mouth shut for seven years yeah so were
these some of the we're going these are
called like the six y's we'll get right
into that and then I we want to go into
uh some history because you're also a
historian well I've become a sort of a
an amateur historian my training is not
so much in history I've been trained in
journalism languages and literature
Humanities and area studies and to some
extent religious studies uh but all of
that of course is is all tied in with
history so I've been looking at what you
might call hidden history on the last
decade or so because uh many people are
in the same we're in the same position
because they know after because Islam is
the fastest growing way of life in the
world according to Gin Book of World
Records many people uh they connect with
it it makes sense and they go down that
spiritual rabbit hole and they find out
wow Islam answers all the questions to
the purpose of life why am I here where
am I going would I die it's it's a
peaceful way of life it it calls for you
know so many great things and to have it
you know attributed to to some one of
the worst things in American history we
take strong offense to that so was that
a catalyst where you took off to to see
like hold on where could some some any
any person get you know the the audacity
to try to use Islam to justify such e an
evil act yeah I I guess I saw that what
the authorities are saying about Islam
and the reality of Islam is very very
different and so that that's I guess by
coming to Islam and seeing that uh that
opened me up to going one step further
and seeing well if they can lie about
Islam if they lie about JFK and these
other events that I've learned about uh
it's possible they could be lying about
911 but honestly for 2 years I didn't
realize that they could have done
something that a audacious you know I
figured it was something relatively
minor maybe they steered and infiltrated
these hijackers or something but the
whole the whole 911 story never really
made sense to me but I just didn't get
into looking really closely at it uh for
two years and I feel really stupid about
that how could I have been sleepwalking
for 2 years actually believing this
official story most of my Muslim friends
in Wisconsin didn't believe it from the
get-go I was the only one who said well
let's wait and see how the evidence
shakes out but yeah you're right that
that it any of us who've actually looked
into Islam and seen this completely
different picture the reality of Islam
which as you say it's it's the best
preserved authentic uh tradition of the
Divine Revelations that have been sent
down it's well preserved and it offers
essentially perfect guidance anybody in
the world who prct practices Islam can
have their spiritual level uplifted uh
and see seeing that seeing that it
clears up the misconceptions of the
earlier brands of monotheism uh by
giving us the true Oneness of God uh by
telling us that these are all Messengers
who've come and brought God's word to
all these different people and here's a
way of life that's simple
straightforward makes sense has profound
ethical implications uh and essentially
really straightens people out and
straighten societies out to the that is
actually practiced uh you know all of
that is is so different from what we're
fed in the media that yeah it's another
Rabbit Hole as well yeah what do you
think about this term when people as
soon as you question you have we're
going to get into some question they're
just questions that that uh should be
addressed I think uh but when you're
called or have you ever been called a
conspiracy theorist have I ever not been
called a conspiracy theorist if I got
paid a dollar for every time I've been
called a conspiracy theorist I'd be a
rich man now there are people who you
know they come out with some crazy you
know theories conspiracy I'm not one of
them uh I I but there's questions and
I'm going to get into some questions are
very important but what what do you
think of the term when someone just
throw as soon as you ask a question
someone will label you a conspiracy
theories well that's a thought stopper
what they're saying is uh we don't want
to even think about what you're talking
about so here's a way to not think about
it and interestingly enough this thought
stopper was invented by the CIA there
was an actual CIA memo that was sent out
to all of the cia's assets in American
journalism and World journalism in the
mid 1960s and it ordered their assets to
start calling the people who were
investigating the JFK assassination
quote unquote conspiracy theorists
that's where the term comes from so the
conspiracy theory about the term
conspiracy theory is one of the many
conspiracy theories that are actually
true so if someone called you a
conspiracy theories which they have do
you do you agree to that term or you say
no I'm not a conspiracy theory what do
you say I would say I'm a conspiracy
realist you know the most commonly prose
uted federal crime at is conspiracy the
federal government admits that there are
conspiracies all over the place and they
prosecute a few of them so we all know
that conspiracies exist a conspiracy is
simply more than one person who you
working to accomplish something that's
illegal or unethical happens all the
time look around folks uh so this the
term conspiracy theorist really makes no
sense at all it it was used with the JFK
assassination to question those who uh
denied that one guy Lee Harvey oswal did
it it was more than one guy but today it
makes no sense with 911 we all know more
than one guy did it the official
conspiracy theory holds that it was 19
guys with box cutters LED not just guys
19 pork chop loving Whiskey Drinking
cocaine snorting uh stripper dating uh C
crazed you know cocaine freaks who
patronized Jack aboff's Casino boats and
kept flying to Las Vegas for gambling
junkets but they were also radical
Muslim fundamentalists that's the
official story those 19 guys led by a
man on kidney dialysis in a cave in
Afghanistan OS some of been Laden
somehow caused three buildings to
vaporize at Free Fall acceleration using
box cutters that's the official
conspiracy theory it is a conspiracy
theory it posits a conspiracy of at
least 20 people and that conspiracy
theory is one of the craziest conspiracy
theories that's ever been
promulgated well isn't there a new poll
or there are several polls uh that most
Americans now over 50% some as high as
80 85% don't believe the official story
yeah the polls are kind of all over the
place depending on how you ask but
there's one very clear poll from 2006
it's a scrips poll that found that 36%
of Americans said it was likely that
9/11 was an inside job designed to
trigger the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq
so 36% of the American people that's
over a 100 million people who say that
and there's another poll that shows that
some was it 84 85% of the American
people don't fully believe the
government's version yeah uh you know
Alex Jones oh yeah do I ever I was in
his Studio once you were yeah why why
did he take a turn you know I wasn't a
big fan of always watching him but I
sometimes someone would send me
something and I'd take a look and he'd
bring up some interesting points but
recently he started really going after
Islam yeah why did he do that he took a
a total turn in another Direction there
are two theories about this and I don't
know which is right or maybe neither but
the two I've heard one is there's a
whole school of thought that emphasizes
that Alex Jones has always been kind of
covering up for Israel now let's face it
Eddie I know this is very controversial
and people are going to throw rotten
fruit at us when we say this but making
Islam the great new civilizational enemy
to replace communism really did benefit
the state of Israel tremendously because
it United the whole West against the
people who were the biggest problem for
Israel and it led to Wars against the
very countries that were giving Israel a
hard time so Alex was talking about 911
not being what we were told but he has
always steered the conversation away
from discussing that aspect of the case
so there's some folks that think there's
something funny going on there and they
point out that you know he has a lawyer
who is the same lawyer uh as people in
the bramman crime family which is the
the Jewish Zionist crime family that
dominates Canada so that's one Theory
and I don't know if that's true or not
another uh and I think possibly more
plausible reason that Alex Jones would
have gone down this this crazy path of
extreme islamophobia even though he
knows 911 was an inside job is that he
makes more money that way because
remember he's looking for the biggest
possible audience he's selling snake oil
and he he doesn't really want a smart
sophisticated audience he wants a pretty
pretty dumb gullible audience so what's
the best way to get a bunch of dumb
gullible people who don't really believe
what they hear in the mainstream media
to watch your show well bash Islam
because there are a lot of people who
are not you know maybe they don't have
the time maybe it's they don't have the
intellect maybe they don't have whatever
to really look into things and they like
to look at the screen and they like to
get all excited and they don't quite
believe the mainstream media those
people are wide a wide openen audience
and some somebody like Alex can build a
huge audience of this Bottom Feeders
basically uh add add them to the more
sophisticated people who've been
watching him especially since back when
he was doing reasonably good stuff the
when he had Kurt nmo working with him so
anyway he's gotten much much worse he's
focusing on a much lower level audience
and it's really unfortunate because his
operation has done some good stuff over
the years or it used to anyway so you've
been on his show oh yeah yeah yeah so
you had a u have you tried to reach out
to him ever since went on this ISL
islamophobia bashing have you tried to
reach out I tried I tried a few times
actually I tried many times and and
there's actually a guy here in Chicago
who kind of knows Alex or was
communicating with Alex a bit and I
tried to go through him and then I tried
to be you know when he ignored me then I
you know I started being a little more
critical and in the last couple of years
he's gotten so bad that I've given up
trying to be nice to him and I basically
you know call it the way I see it yeah
we're going to go ahead and take a break
and we'll be right back with more here
with Dr Kevin
Barrett back here on the dean show Dr
Kevin thank you again for being with us
so we were talking about Alex Jones and
how he kind of took off and you know en
joined the hate parade of instigating
all this hate against Islam and Muslims
you're a Muslim yourself and you know
what it stands for and it's totally the
antithesis of you know what people uh
are saying out there and if somebody
would be sincerely and genuinely look
into it they would come to the same
conclusion that we have but many people
uh they just join that hay parade it's
like easier and Alex I'm really sad that
he joined that and he's instigating a
lot of Mis uh information and you've
reached out to him you've tried cuz I
think that would be genuine on his part
to bring a Muslim like yourself bring
someone we've also we we made a program
me and a friend of mine Dr seil and we
actually invited him to invite the
Muslims on come if you have some uh some
questions and uh some doubts about
something some misinformation come bring
us on but we also hit a de end yeah yeah
it's too bad he's he's a Christian or he
identifies as a Christian and his
audience is mostly Christian and I 911
was largely designed to cause Strife
between Christians and Muslims and to
make both groups look bad yeah and to
try to make the atheists look good you
know suddenly we had all of these
best-selling books of the new atheist
because of 9/11 and really Christians
and Muslims should be working together
and and really the good Christians and
Muslims are working together now uh but
it's really sad when somebody with that
huge audience of mostly Christians who
don't really believe the official story
of everything um gets misled by by Alex
Jones and you know there are some good
conservative Christians who are reaching
out to Islam and who are telling the
truth about Islam people like Mark
siljander have you ever had him on your
show no I would highly recommend that
he's a former Congressman a very
conservative Christian Christian former
islamophobe okay he was a yeah I I met
him I believe yeah he's a great guy and
and he's a Conservative Christian with
an accurate view of Islam it such people
do exist yeah he he goes into the
semetic languages and defines really
what the word Allah how it's there
Muslim is that the same yeah yeah yeah
same guy and and basically what he found
out is that uh the Quran is closer to
real Christianity than most Christians
understanding of Christianity why is
that well it's because if you get if you
actually study the languages you find
out that the Aramaic that Jesus spoke
contains words that are cognates of the
same terms that we find in Quran so the
quranic message and Jesus's message is
best as it can be reconstructed through
these Greek texts which were
translations from Aramaic uh it's it's
they're ultimately very similar and Sil
jender recognize that that's so
important and that actually vouches for
the authenticity of both Revelations
yeah didn't this also happen back in in
Rome and you discussed this nuro didn't
he set tried to set up and he did set up
the Christians and they were persecuted
because there was an attack that he did
can you elaborate on it it was one of
those uh yeah false flag it was one of
History's first big false Flags Nero
burned Rome and blamed the Christians
and we've had a couple of other of these
big false Flags aimed at religious
groups too uh the other really big one
that stands out is the Gunpowder Plot of
16004 I think it was Guy Fox was a
Catholic agitator who was set up as the
psy with a bunch of gunpowder and wet
gunpowder and barrels and he was placed
beneath Parliament and they arrested him
and claimed that he was going to blow up
the parliament kill all the top
government people in England and this
message against Catholics went out to
all the churches in the Church of
England and it was a lot like 911 except
that instead of TV screens this was
preachers and churches screaming about
the evil Catholic plot to blow up our
government and so this was the the
Gunpowder Plot was the false flag that
launched the British Empire by whipping
up hatred against Catholics and causing
England to go to war uh basically
permanently with Catholics Spain and
Portugal steal all of their colonies
ultimately and and the British Empire
was the result now what what you're
mentioning the the Nero what I brought
up and then this the Gunpowder Plot uh
will bring up some more are these
established um uh facts now this is
where historians or people have
uncovered this anything I'm I'm going to
be very skeptical because I'm sure there
are some things that are very
controversial debatable but when we talk
about these are these without a shadow
of a doubt things like let's bring up
one Northwoods okay yeah well things
that we can bring up it's Crystal Clear
there's no arguing over it ner Nero
burning Rome and living with Christians
I think that's pretty much majority
opinion that's majority opinion yeah
Gunpowder Plot being a false flag yeah
not not so much because that's the
official myth of the British Empire the
official version that the evil Catholic
guy did it and was trying to blow up
Parliament so that hasn't fully been
accepted by but I think that more and
more historians have seen that that uh
that that was a false where 90% were
it's how about Northwoods uh Northwoods
is pretty much a sure well we have the
documents uh and the only reason we have
these documents which proved that the
top level of the United States
government and Military were planning to
basically attack America yeah tell us
for people who don't know what North
Northwoods and the plot behind that
right well this was in
1962 and the hardliners in the US
military were looking for an excuse to
go to war with Cuba yeah so the Joint
Chiefs of Staff America highest military
commanders led by a man named General
Lyman lemnitzer drafted a plan that
would have involved uh sinking American
ships and thus Killing American Sailors
on the high seas it would have involved
bombing American cities and killing
innocent American civilians and it would
have involved a fake airliner shootdown
blamed on Fidel Castro and all of this
would have led to a US invasion of Cuba
but uh President Kennedy and his adviser
Robert mcnamer apparently said said no
to it uh so that is we know that existed
because we have the official document
somebody saved mn's copy apparently it
was discovered by an Australian
researcher in the 1990s after it was
released under the JFK official records
act and then it became very well known
interestingly right about the time of
911 what about golfa tonan again that's
another uh well one thing everybody
agrees on with the Gulf of tonen was
that what really happened and what was
reported were completely different that
was the the supposed North Vietnamese
attack on an American ship that launched
the big American escalation in Vietnam
however all historians today admit that
there was no such attack so the only
question is what really happened uh
there was maybe a little bit of a
skirmish with a North Vietnamese boat
and then there was uh a big the American
boat was firing into the sea basically
this was then reported as if it were a
serious attack by the North Vietnamese
all historians agree that it wasn't are
there any other in is that that we're
getting one story it's like if you if
you have someone now that you want to
trust but the person is coming out you
know through their actions untrustworthy
so you find out they lied to you once
it's again they lied to you do you keep
I mean do you just qu you just blindly
accept everything he's telling or you're
going to be really skeptical you follow
me you're not going to conjure up okay
I'm not Conjuring up some theories here
but I'm just asking questions so uh
another one I think Pearl Harbor right
uh that's one that's still debated
that's de so we won okay if you want to
get into that little well just briefly
the argument is that Pearl Harbor which
turned American opinion around upside
down uh and brought the us into World
War II prior to Pearl Harbor uh 80 plus%
of the American people didn't want to
get into World War II and then there was
a huge Japanese sneak attack out at
Pearl Harbor Hawaii that killed 2,000
plus American Sailors and gave us these
amazing images of ships blowing up it
looked a lot like 911 and the official
version of that is that was just a
Japanese sneak attack but the almost
certain reality which historians maybe
you know a third to a half of the
historians probably would admit this at
least privately now uh and the rest
would be lying uh this was this was
orchestrated uh there was an eighto plan
in the Roosevelt administration to force
the Japanese to strike the first blow
and Robert Stinnett in his book day of
Deceit has shown quite conclusively in
my opinion that the Americans knew
exactly when and where the Japanese were
coming in intentionally sent their
aircraft carriers out to sea because we
needed those they were militarily
important and left a bunch of mothball
battleships in the harbor with men on
them as a Target to be destroyed so
essentially the American side sacrificed
2,000 Sailors to Rouse American public
opinion into into the state of Fury that
would allow entrance into World War II
here's one for you I think this is
undebatable it's proven how about the
the invasion of Iraq based on a lie and
it's proven now nobody's going to debate
this right that there was weapons of
mass destruction what about that one
even president Trump uh got a lot of
mileage with that one bashing George H
George W bush and knocking him out of
the presidential race everybody admits
that there was no significant wmd now
there may have been some old mothball
WMT that they're they've actually lied
about and covered up but that's a whole
different kettle of fish here uh and
another one the first Iraq war the Gulf
War First Gulf War was sold to Congress
thanks to this bizarre lie in which a
public relations firm called Hill and
Nolton which is close to the Bush family
produced the Kuwaiti ambassador's
daughter and she posed as a nurse nurse
Nera from a Kuwaiti hospital she went on
television and in front of Congress and
told us that the evil Iraqi soldiers had
been grabbing poor innocent Kuwaiti
babies from their incubators in the
hospital where she worked and bashing
their brains out on the floor that was
the story that enraged American public
opinion and sold that war to Congress
and of course it wasn't really a Kuwaiti
nurse it was the ambassador's daughter
people started saying wait a minute
isn't that the ambassador's daughter and
so it was exposed fairly quickly and yet
no they didn't tell everybody
that we we see a lot of fake things
around us you have um you know uh fake
food okay you have a lot of this thing I
I talk about a lot now you know
nutrition because you have a lot of fake
food you have a lot of fake uh stories
people making up Conjuring things uh
Botox fake this fake that you know uh
and then why is this hard to believe
that you know these because there's also
um reports that came out not too long
ago of the Pentagon paying over half a I
mean billion dollars to a PR firm to
create fake terrorist videos right I saw
that that was one of these dozens and
dozens and dozens of false flag stories
that we report on over at false flag
Weekly News and that's also well
documented that not one that anybody's
arguing didn't happen uh so the idea
that terrorism is being used
clandestinely uh and and even the
spectacle of terrorism when maybe there
isn't even real terrorism in some cases
is being used to manipulate public
opinion it really should be a no-brainer
but because we're just pummeled
incessantly with the mainstream version
of things people have been brainwashed
into being afraid to even go there I
mean we I I have to admit in every you
know uh bag of apples you got some
rotten ones you do have some lunatics
that you know might attribute themselves
to being Muslim you know but anyone I
like who's sincerely practicing Islam
and sees what it stands for these are
the things that really agitate and
aggravate you when you you know really
what Islam is about and then you have to
keep defending it against these things
that potentially don't have even even if
even if all the Muslims were doing CRA
drinking alcohol for instance or eating
pork or uh being injust Islam calls to
be just Islam calls to stay away from
Evil so you can't blame Islam is right
as that good example you probably know
if uh the drunk driver uh crashes the
Mercedes Benz you can't blame the
manufacturer right for the drunk driver
right but now we're going above and
beyond and we're saying hold on you many
truth Seekers out there who are going
down these rabbit holes are saying like
hold on there's even more here right
when you start to uncover the the
history and we see that in previous
times certain things have been uncovered
then this thing half a billion dollars
on a PR firm fake videos terrorists I
mean to do what to what's that all about
well it's it's it's even worse than that
Eddie I mean that was one example but
the it's isn't it bizarre that the
public relations agency that handles
Isis videos is run by Rita Katz the
Israeli intelligence agent uh it's it's
called site intelligence group sit and
it's a mosad spin-off so it's it's
basically an Israeli operation and yet
we're told that essentially every Isis
video that is released goes through site
intelligence group now many of these
have been proven fake you know over and
over and over in fact recently there's
we discovered that uh one of the worst
supposed Muslim terrorist in the whole
world a guy named AUST Australia witness
supposedly operated online turned out to
be none other than Joshua Goldberg the
suspect rather that Federal
investigators stopped from carrying out
a terror plot here in Kansas City City
this was published in the Sydney Morning
Herald and they have been tracking this
guy online Joshua Goldberg a young
Jewish man operating out of his basement
in Florida who's been impersonating evil
Muslim terrorists and evil white
supremacists and people like that all
over the world just like this new guy in
Israel Kadar that was just arrested an
Israeli teenager has faced Court accused
of targeting Victorian schools with hoax
bomb and shooting threats he's alleged
to have made more than 2,000 calls as
part of a world worldwide campaign to
spread fear and alarm Michael Kadar is
accused of spreading Terror across the
globe for thousands and thousands of
threats against Jewish community centers
was actually an a Jewish Israeli kid a
young man whose uncle was a high up guy
in Israeli Black Operations intelligence
so we we've seen so many of these cases
uh and but one of the things that really
aggravates me the most is that they
blame this on radical Islam on
supposedly the more Pious the Muslim the
more dangerous and this is the exact
opposite of the truth even if we
accepted the official story of let's say
911 then it it's these guys were not
Pious they the people that were told
were the 19 hijackers there may have
been some identity theft there I don't
know but they were you know their
behavior was the least Islamic that you
could ever imagine and then that same
pattern repeats itself over and over and
over uh in so many of these cases the
PSIs were blamed for these supposed of
radical Islamic attacks are people with
radically unislim Lifestyles there's
stories you can't believe the The
Mastermind of the Paris attacks in
November 2015 was uh in a car he was SM
they were all drinking and and smoking
big joints and they got pulled over as
they were fleeing the scene of the crime
heading to Belgium I think it was and
the cops just let him go and waved him
on and and so what we're seeing in these
cases over and over is that these PSIs
the the supposed radical Muslims who
were set up to take the blame for these
things are marginal characters they're
kind of low-life characters often from
Muslim backgrounds but very rarely
serious Muslims and they get involved
with organized crime drug trafficking
the corrupt side of the police
establishment the intelligence
establishment they get manipulated and
they get set up I think now we're going
to take a break but we we can get past
the ad hominum attacks many people will
start you know attacking the person who
wants to bring up questions but I think
now we've proved something that okay if
we can't trust this person whoever is
bringing these claims we th shown some
examples through history and then we
gave the big example of the just
outright lie of you know that bush with
the whole weapons of mass destruction
which over 2 million innocent people
over span of 10 years were killed uh we
should be a right have a right to ask
some very important questions without
being labeled you know whatever label I
think is that a fair assumption without
would it's common sense and we have some
wi some of the top we call the top six
wise that have to do with what we're
talking about uh because that was a
catalyst this evil event that Islam
condemns Muslims condemn 911 and we're
going to be asking the six wise with our
special guest here Dr Kevin when we come
back don't go
anywhere back here with Dr Kevin
Barrett the wise now are you ready why
are over
2500 these are not just Layman these are
people who specialize in in um in
architecture Engineers scientists
mathematicians you know professionals
why are they uh demanding these are not
just people hanging out in the basement
and they're drinking smoking weed and
they're like hey I don't believe this
official story what's going on we want a
new one no these are these are people
the scientists you know professionals
who deal with buildings and you know
explosives or the Sciences The Sciences
in this area they are demanding a new
investigation why is that that's right
it's 2,500 Architects and engineers and
then there are lot many many many more
scientists uh on top of the top of5 so
it's actually more than that uh and the
reason that virtually everybody with any
technical expertise who's looked at what
happened in New York on September 11th
2001 is a strong skeptic of the official
version is that these uh that what we
were told happened cannot have happened
unless the laws of physics were
suspended now as Muslims we will admit
that there there is such a thing as
Miracles that there that's in our
tradition but the idea that these
buildings would be demolished
miraculously with the laws of physics
suspended seems highly unlikely and so
all of these hard-nosed Architects
engineers and then these other
scientists are all saying uh that that
actually if you sit them down privately
they'll tell you that the official story
is is not just false it's Preposterous
the next why is uh the third building MH
why did it just fall at freef fall speed
it it was one of those that someone who
looks at the tapes it didn't even did it
even get hit no this was building seven
which that was the highest Security
building in New York it was the C 's
second biggest headquarters in the world
and it also had the SEC investigations
of Enron all sorts of really serious
secret type stuff and that was also the
command center on the 23rd floor that
was supposed to deal with any emergency
in New York uh so Building 7 this 47
story building on the afternoon of 911
just boom just committed suicide that's
the official story just disappeared in 6
and a half seconds straight into its own
footprint in an absolutely classic
control demolition maybe the most
beautiful control demolition ever uh the
Professionals in this area like Danny
jnco the leading European demolition
professional was in awe at the job that
these professionals had done on building
s when he first was shown this he didn't
know it would happen on 911 he said wow
what a that that's an amazing demolition
they've you know these professionals
done a great job they said it was 9911
really that what that happened on 911
and remember most people still haven't
seen much of this they banned uh footage
of building 7 coming down from the major
American networks for many years for I
believe 78 years until they finally were
allowed to show it in 20072 2008 uh
because this so-called collapse of a
building never hit by any planes it was
Far Away From The Towers there were lots
of buildings that barely sustained any
damage much closer to the towers than
building seven was and it took the
government years and years and years to
come up with some uh ludicrous pretext
for what happened to it so so building
seven is in a lot of ways the Achilles
heel of 9111 there's really essentially
nobody on Earth that's looked seriously
at it that believes that official story
what if someone comes back and says look
that's only 2500 Architects and
Engineers compare that to actually how
many Architects and Engineers are out
there that that aren't yes but why
aren't people coming forward well it's
not great for your career to do that I'm
living proof you know I was on a career
track in in the academy you know I I had
the best offer out of my PhD program of
anybody in the history of the program at
University of California and I I turned
it down maybe stupidly I don't know uh
but I you know my career got blown up
for talking about this and basically
everybody knows that's that's your free
speech huh there you go yeah the land of
Freedom somebody hates our freedoms I
don't think it's the Muslims but yeah so
so these architect Engineers don't go
there most of them don't go there the
2500 are the people who are honest and
courageous and they don't care if it's
going to you know get bring them attacks
and career damage uh but the others all
know if they look at it the Architects
and Engineers for 911 truth has been
going to The Architects convention every
year and uh trying to get them to pass a
resolution calling for a real
investigation of what happened to
building 7 and they're not having a
whole lot of luck I think they got like
7% and then next year they got 20% this
year they get went back to 7% and the
reasons for that were partly the they
weren't given enough time to make their
case but it it when they went and talked
to people who were voting against it no
said that the government is right about
bilding seven nobody said that they all
say oh well this is this is going to
cause our association problems um this
happened a long time ago let's just let
sleeping dogs lie and so on and so forth
so that's the reason that that other
professionals don't take it up it has
nothing to do with the truth about what
happened anyone who looks seriously at
it knows the truth which is that it was
a controlled
demolition that's interesting if you you
ended up getting fired I mean you see a
lot of islamophobes and many people come
out and they start really like going um
at it with the whole free speech and ex
but as soon as you express yourself and
you ask questions uh you lose your job
yeah that's right it's it's that's a
huge double standard hypocrisy it is and
there's a contradiction really in in the
heart of this sort of Western
glorification of Freedom uh which is
that you have the freedom to stick with
that ideology and you can talk about
Freedom all you want but if you start
really using it to critique the the
dominant way the power wants you to see
things then you get get in trouble like
the Charlie ebdo thing in in France was
a classic example remember that where
they said these radical Islamic
terrorists shot up this cartoon magazine
and that turned out to be another false
flag I have a a book about that uh here
it's called we are not Charlie ebdo um
and features a lot of very prominent
people including Rabbi Michael Lerner
America's most famous politically active
uh liberal Jew uh is in the book not
necessarily agreeing with the false flag
interpretation but agreeing that there's
a problem with this whole way propaganda
behind this event uh and and that
Charlie hibo thing was all about liberte
Freedom right this is the West official
ideology these cartoonist should be free
to blaspheme and to say horrible
disgusting obscene things uh that's
that's Freedom well as soon as you
question what really happened there at
Charlie ABDO and you should question it
because there's video absolute proof
that what they claim happened couldn't
possibly have happened uh then you
discover the limits of this liberte or
Freedom that they're talking about uh
and it's it's a very sneaky orwellian
way of you know using words to mean the
opposite of what they really mean so
unfreedom is really what these people
are devoted to but they want you to lock
your mind down uh yourself they don't
want to have to threaten to throw you in
prison they would rather that you lock
up your own brain if they can train you
to lock up your own brain then they
don't have to spend the money and the
resources on coming and dragging you off
and throwing you in a prison cell well
this is a rapid hole that I I hadn't uh
gone down uh I I looked into because I
want to really be objective really
looking at things you know from a an
taking analytic approach scientific
seeing like okay not coming to try to
prove you know that okay this is uh you
know a setup or whatnot but then you
just can't help for instance there's
some questions that that many were
asking and I was repeating them because
they were important with the San
Bernardino when the witnesses and that
was one that I kind of looked into
because I wanted to do a show about it
again usually coming on and saying this
has nothing to do with Islam the guys
it's Ramadan he's supposed to where what
what do you do when you break like when
we're about to eat
that's yeah he's he's at he's at he's
he's at a at a homosexual bar uh he's
drinking he's doing everything like
these these 19 guys strip clubs this and
that and everything against Islam but
now the witness was were saying that uh
they saw multip
Witnesses three white men you're you're
certain that you saw three men yes uh
but the reason they believe that there
are three individuals is because
Witnesses told police that they saw
three men with what appear to be long
rifles uh leaving that scene and they're
now looking for a black SUV right now
Brook from what I understand uh there
was uh three shooters that went in tall
white men but over here the official
stories this a small young lady uh
that's San Bernardino that's San
Bernardino right you know you went
obviously that's what this book is about
so you got another book on that one too
yeah this is this is the uh it's called
Orlando false flag can you tell me about
the uh the three white men did you hear
the W yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah
multiple Witnesses three three sets of
witnesses all saw that the real Shooters
in San Bernardino were that wasn't this
couple that they blame with that short
little you know 5ft tall 100 lb Muslim
lady it was three large white
paramilitaries that did that shooting
Miss Abdul McGee can you describe to me
in as much detail as you can what did
the gunman look
like I couldn't see his face he had a
black hat on and um from my view all I
could see was just a black hat and black
long sleeve shirt possibly gloves on um
he had black cargo pants on the kinds
with the zippers on the sides and the
big puy
Pockets uh he he had a huge assault
rifle and he had extra ammo he he's
coming ready for he's coming ready for
something to reload I don't know he had
like
magazines um I I couldn't see what else
I saw it was I just saw three dressed
exactly the same you're you're certain
that you saw three men yes it look like
their skin color was yeah was
white they looked like they were
athletic bills and um they they appear
to be tall you're you're certain that
you saw three men yes it looked like
their skin color was yeah was
white they looked like they were
athletic build and um they they appear
to be tall when where I was at right
here we seen those three white men in uh
military fatigues um taking off what
were they driving uh it was was it a
black black Impala like SUV or yeah you
think that they might have been the
shooters yeah the way they were driving
yeah yeah and how many shots did you
hear oh a lot it was a lot it it sounded
like like I said it sounded like a gun
range just shots going off like crazy it
was a lot a lot of shots what's your
first name uh Juan Juan what's your last
Hernandez all thank you so much and it
just does make sense for for these two
um to be able to act like some kind of
uh Bonnie Clyde or something it it's
just ridiculous it it doesn't add up and
that's not just one person that said it
three different Witnesses all said that
they were recorded you can watch them
say it on YouTube and that the same sort
of thing has happened Elsewhere for
instance the parish 20 November 2015
attacks uh which I also have a book out
on uh and had the same situation where
Witnesses said that the people who shot
up the belly keep nightclub were
actually uh large white paramilitaries
maybe they're the same ones in San
Bernardino I don't know but they didn't
match the description of the Muslim pis
at all so yeah we see this pattern over
and over and somehow we're we're bullied
into not talking about it yeah wow U
again if if this was done by someone who
claimed to be Muslim again Islam
condemns actions like this this has
nothing to do with Islam but we're going
a step f further and saying that hold on
uh you know the evidence is showing that
this is not uh like the next question of
the wise is why the Architects and
Engineers are questioning why was there
this um this Namo thermite found in a
dust sample so they're asking why why
would there be this what is nanothermite
well nanothermite is a it's a mixture
basically it's a chemical compound with
aluminum that it reacts uh turns steel
into iron melts it so it reacts at very
high temperatures and it could be used
to create something that would slice
through the steel columns uh to bring a
building down because if you want a tall
building to come down uh in any way
other than sort of toppling slowly
sideways you know which would be what
would normally happen if you had an
earthquake or whatever a fire or
something if it were of course fire
can't knock down tall buildings but if
it could uh in any case nanothermite can
slice columns and so it could be used in
sort of cutter charges that would slice
columns and the interesting thing is
that uh the dust samples on 911 show not
only this remains of nanothermite chips
but also iron-rich microspheres which
would be what happens when the iron gets
kind of blown up by these cutter charges
there steel gets blown into iron and
it's sprayed out as a sort of an aerosol
spray and the little tiny bits of molten
iron coales as spheres as they go
through the air that turns them into
spheres so tons of that I mean a huge
actually a very puzzlingly large
component of the World Trade Center dust
that was tested by uh NE uh Neil Neil
Herod a chemistry professor University
of Copenhagen and Steven Jones the
physics Professor from Brigham Young and
many others uh showed a lot of that
stuff in in the dust so it it's actually
Eddie the real mystery is assuming these
samples are authentic and there's no
strong reason to believe that they
aren't the question would be how can
there be that much uh especially if the
iron R microspheres it's as if a
tremendous amount of energy was
Unleashed to melt melt and sort of
explode um both melt and explode
simultaneously uh very high a shockingly
large amount of the steel in the World
Trade Center structure almost more than
you would expect if it was just cutter
charges so even Neil's Herod is a little
bit puzzled why it's all there but
there's no way to interpret it
innocently so there really only two
possibilities either somebody has salted
those dust samples which is very
unlikely the government has dust samples
so if this weren't true they could just
bring out their samples and prove it was
not true but they haven't uh so the
other explanation is that the these
buildings were explosively demolished
which happens to be provable in many
other ways as well they're also asking
another one of the wise is why was
160,000 163,000 tons of concrete
pulverized right see that the amount of
energy available from Gravity as a
building comes down it's is that you can
quantify it and you can figure out how
much of it would be used to sort of
break up the building as the slab on top
falls on the next slab and what we saw
with these Twin Towers was a a very
sizable proportion of the concrete was
blasted out just blasted to smithin in
pyroclastic cloud formation these are
the kinds of sort of hot slurry clouds
that come out of volcanoes and so a
tremendous amount of energy went into
pulverizing this concrete a sizable
amount of the concrete dust that was
found was like talcum powder sub 100
Micron units of of concrete so again
Mass amounts of energy Unleashed far
beyond what you would get from gravity
and if you just look at the pictures of
these Twin
Towers collapsing they're not collapsing
they're exploding look at it again boom
you know you can see these gigantic 100
ton steel chunks of steel framing being
blasted upwards and outwards to impale
themselves on neighboring buildings and
it's happening uh in a perfect symmetry
it's symmetrical this couldn't possibly
happen from any form of natural collapse
a building it's the only way a building
could possibly naturally collapse would
be asymm metrically and progressively or
slowly bit by bit CH but this was just
it's just gone straight down perfect
symmetry obvious
demolition uh next one in and we're
almost at the end of the six was why why
were their Witnesses reporting that they
heard they saw explosions they saw and
heard explosions the third explosion the
whole Lobby collapsed on us what was it
like what was it like horrible it's you
know the whole building just collapsed
to us was that a secondary explosion yes
it was that was the yeah definitely
secondary explosion we watch the first
explosion he started run floor by floor
instead of popping out it was it was if
if they hadon they were planed to take
down a building boom boom just like the
last man out did you ever meet The Last
Man out yeah William Rodriguez is
actually a friend of mine he you know he
he came to Islam in in Malaysia and he
ended up accepting Islam yeah he
accepted Islam Mah Willie rodrig is the
great hero of 911 he's presented in the
mainstream media as the biggest hero of
911 who rescued all sorts of people the
guy with the only key he was a janitor
in the North Tower and he had a key the
other couple of people with keys fled he
was the last guy with a key he led the
firemen up there and they got people out
and he was the last guy out of the North
Tower before it came down he dived under
a Fir trck and then they had to dig all
the rubble away to pull him out from the
firet truck they got him out just a
couple of minutes before the fire firet
trucks tires popped from the heat so he
had a real brush with death and that led
him to accept Islam but he uh became you
know joined the 9911 truth movement
years later after the 911 Commission
didn't want to hear what he had to say
and then sealed his testimony but he had
he uh testified that the explo the first
explosion happened in the subbasements
below the floor floor one uh and he was
on on the first floor and this happened
before the plane hit he he felt the
impact of the plane maybe you know 7 10
seconds later but the first huge
explosion happened From Below blasted up
the FL uh many people were very
seriously injured and killed in that
explosion down below it happened before
the plane hit so that's one of the most
important parts of his testimony uh and
he he's a great guy uh if you ever have
a chance get him on your show you've had
firemen you have many officials who are
questioning uh because they heard these
explosion like some they they describe
it as a controlled demolition we're just
asking questions can we ask questions
well this is America right you know
actually in a way we're kind of uh
examples of
how the America is supposed to work
there's supposed to be Freedom above all
freedom of religion right I mean the
people that fled to this continent were
fleeing religious persecution in large
part uh so the first amendment that
ensures freedom of religion go and
freedom of speech stuck in there in the
first first amendment I mean that's
really what this country is about we're
supposed to have the freedom to think uh
on our own to come to our own
conclusions to investigate everything
and if for example we come up with a
slightly different religious view from
the majority as you and I have uh uh we
are supposed to have the full right to
not only do that and it should be
celebrated right and uh we can talk
about that and likewise when these
contested political events happen we're
supposed to be free to Hash that out uh
and obviously 9911 has led to a huge
roll back of Freedom as well as
islamophobia so it's really an attack on
the First Amendment and an attack on the
ideas of the founding fathers of the
United States so
you know Muslims today we as Muslims we
can be real American Patriots as well as
Muslim Patriots by just standing up for
the truth standing up for the right
thing and walking in the footsteps of
the prophets you know peace to all of
them the prophets have had tough
situations it's been hard for them to
tell the truth they've been persecuted
for telling the truth and yet they stuck
by the truth that's a lot of what
prophecy is about uh so we're the
community with the best preserved
Revelation from the prophets through the
last prophet man we we have to be
standing up for the truth that if we're
not who will absolutely and if you ask
questions and you get a legit answer
like for instance the first question was
why are there 2500 AR Architects and
Engineers wanting a new official
investigation and then someone comes and
says okay because these guys lost their
job they have nothing else to do and
they're the ETA you get and then let's
say it's something credible or I'm just
giving an example or why the building
Trade Center come down and then there's
a you know scientific answer or
something saying that oh um at the same
time the planes hit they were already
getting ready to take it down they were
going to destroy you get know what I'm
saying so it just simultaneously
happened and it's proven it did it just
coincidence right I'm just giving an
example but that's not the case right
well yeah see or the thermite what's
that oh there was they were doing some
experiments in one of the the the rooms
and then when it came down these were
just uh remnants of that so you see you
got a but have you gotten for these wise
have people gotten a an answer for these
you know that yeah that's that's a great
question and the you know every this is
I'm not really an expert in science you
know my father was an engineer he was he
if he learned German he would have been
a PhD engineer and I grew up dealing
with some of the stuff he did and so I'm
I'm not completely you know I'm not
exactly your average Humanities guy as
far as completely ignoring science and
engineering um but I am an expert in
arguments uh that's what we do in the
humanities you know we learn to argue
sort of like lawyers except you with a
broader scope and what I do is I look at
the arguments I did this back when I was
a kid with the JFK assassination you
know okay here's one group that that
says the president uh the auder film
shows the president's head snapping
backwards he's hit from the front and
they say here's Life magazine photos
that published those frames in Reverse
to make it look like he was shot from
the back so I look that okay what does
the other side say the other side says
that oh Life Magazine just made an
innocent mistake and reversed the order
of the frames and then life mag and then
the official story is that this magic
bullet did an amazing trajectory to to
you know hit hit these two guys in all
these different parts of their bodies
turning around and M there and all this
so essentially you look at the two sides
of the argument and you say well which
is the better argument and it was
obvious in the case of JFK and I could
see that when I was 16 years old and
with 9/11 it turns out to be the same
kind of situation and for people who
want to look at both sides of this
argument see whether the debunkers quote
unquote say and whether The Advocates of
the 911 truth movement say are really
good resource is the film uh it's called
September 11th the new Pearl Harbor it's
by an Italian guy named masimo mazuko so
if you were to feed that into a search
engine September 11th the new Pearl
Harbor you find this series of films
it's what 6 hours Al together but you
can watch it by bit by bit and he
carefully considers what the different
sides say in these arguments and of
course he concludes as as I have well
that's I think the evidence really
speaks for itself you don't have to be
an expert in arguments to figure most of
this out most people who argue this they
haven't really looked at the evidence
have they exactly yeah see the the whole
the way they can get away with this kind
of thing is by scaring people away from
taking a serious look at the evidence
yeah that's amazing and what and at the
end um when you when you look at what
this was a catalyst to the mo the motive
behind obviously uh this doesn't benefit
Islam it doesn't benefit the least this
is not good for business right but is it
good for business on the other end well
no kidding I mean if you look at
Sherlock Holmes doesn't have to we don't
have to bring him in to this do we I
mean what's the motive who gets the
benefit where's the money go well we
even have this document that was issued
exactly one year before 911 by project
for a New American Century which is all
of the Hardline militaristic
neoconservatives and the document was
called rebuilding America's defenses and
it basically said we need to do
preemptive invasions of the Middle East
and we need to double our military
budget and to do this it's not going to
happen anytime soon without and this is
like a direct quote uh some cataclysmic
and catalyzing event such as a new Pearl
Harbor so that was issued one year
almost to the date before
911 and they so we have evidence that
this group of people who dominated the
Bush Administration they were yearning
for an event like 91 11 uh so they could
double their military budget and they
could launch these wars of aggression in
the Middle East uh and a lot of other
people benefited as well of course all
the contractors all the people who
benefit from military money which is all
plundered from the American taxpayer
they made out like Bandits the people
who want the government to be a tyranny
that can totally control its citizens
minds and you know spy on them and
everything those people benefited a long
list of people benefited the people who
are are basically committing a very
aggressive agressive uh Invasion and
occupation and ethnic cleansing of the
Holy Land in Palestine that is the
Hardline zionists benefited tremendously
probably more than anyone else so there
were was a long list of these folks who
benefited from this and of all the
people who didn't benefit or who lost
the single biggest group would be the
Muslims and especially the Muslim sort
of anti-imperialists and anti-zionists
the Muslims who were committed to trying
to free the Muslim world and to develop
the Muslim world and to have an
autonomous Muslim world and to do that
we would have to kick out the reeba
banks and corporations that dominate
that part of the world and we would have
to make sure that the local people in
the Muslim world have control of their
own resources and benefit from their own
resources right those are the so-called
Anti-Imperialist and anti-zionist
Muslims I'm one of them and we lost from
911 it's been life has been very hard
for us uh since 911 so it's really
obvious who won and who lost so just
from from that on that basis I think and
the fact that every single major
American war since the Mexican war in
the 1840s has been launched by some kind
of big public relations stunt uh it
doesn't take an expert to see that
you're really they should have to prove
that it wasn't a false flag we shouldn't
have to prove that it was now is that
where you just stay away from because
that would be someone jumping into being
a conspiracy theorist because he's
trying to figure out how people
conspired because you have all these
departments so is that where you just
ask you're just asking the questions and
and and or are there some people because
some people can't rack their wrap their
mind around how could everyone be in
cahoots now every all these departments
everyone working together to uh have
this UNH hatch MH yeah that's one of the
first uh kinds of you know skeptical
responses we get when we talk about this
uh well how many people could have
worked together to do this and wouldn't
somebody have talked there are a lot of
possible answers to that uh there are
cases where huge numbers of people
people have worked on secret projects
and nobody's talked a classic example is
the Manhattan Project uh tens of
thousands of people had new classified
stuff about that and nobody talked uh
they built the nuclear bomb without
spilling that secret and operation
Northwoods that was mentioned earlier a
plan to mass murder Americans in a fake
series of terrorist attacks to launch a
war on Cuba in
1962 uh was kept completely secret from
1962 until by very bad luck for the bad
guys uh one document happened to be
uncovered in the late
1990s uh so there's another example
where a very nefarious plot that would
have involved huge numbers of people and
it was ready to go in a month uh it was
kept completely secret for all of those
decades and one could cite many many
other examples but the short version is
yes they can keep secrets and the the
other thing to point out is that you
know the people that did 911 probably
thought they were doing the right thing
they have a particular view of the world
and they see themselves as serving the
country in some cases another country in
other cases and the the world I mean
there are people out there who very
strongly believe that the only way to
world peace is a one world government
and that the best way to get a one world
government is to strengthen the big
Central institutions the banks
corporations and Military that are
strongest right now which would be the
West and us and west
so by unleashing those forces and trying
to go out and grab a world government
we'll be imposing world peace and that's
a wonderful glorious project that's one
ideology and then of course as you know
there are many people who don't like
Islam Islam is coming back it was it's
really going strong in the ' 80s and 90s
and uh there are people who honestly
have this anti-islam view they're afraid
of of Islam uh for many reasons in the
powerful people have really good reasons
to be afraid of it if Islam takes over
no more user banking running the world M
the New World Order bankster Syndicate
will be out of business so there are a
lot of powerful folks who clearly have a
good reason to actually think 911 would
be a good thing so of course those
people would do it in secret and you
know John Cobb the eminent Theologian
wrote about this in the book I edited
called 911 in American Empire this is I
think he's the greatest American
Theologian uh today and many many people
would agree with that uh and he would
he's in that book 9/11 in the American
Empire saying it looks like an inside
job and saying that the people that did
it probably thought it was the right
right thing to do and here's their
argument a couple more questions uh
we're almost out of time we have to Cil
it in a few tell me about the what your
experience that you had with some of law
law enforcement and the when the meeting
was over they had a different respect
for you after you kind of went over some
things with the was it some of the
organiz FBI or whatnot uh can you talk
about that oh yeah I I was wondering
about which one you met because I've you
know I've run into interesting
conversations with like Homeland
Security and uh you know ins and those
people like I I've flown I've been to
Iran four times now in the last uh three
years and so I was have you I always
wonder what my greeting will be like
when I get back um but the one you're
talking about was when I was flying home
from New York I'd done a talk at a 911
truth anniversary event on the
anniversary of September 911th September
11th so I was flying back home uh and uh
I was as I was dozing at the gate I felt
a tap on my shoulder and looked up and
there were three FBI agents flashing
their Badges and said Mr Barrett would
you come with us we should have a few
questions for you what's this about so
they drag me off to a interrogation room
and on the way the guy says I've seen
you on Fox News you know oh okay uh sits
me down and starts out pulls out a
notebook and says is this your notebook
and I said yeah that's my notebook uh I
think I left that on the plane flying
into New York he say why is there Arabic
in it and I said well I I grabbed that
notebook to write my speech on the plane
but I got into a good conversation with
a guy next to me and I forgot the
notebook it's my old Arabic notebook I
learned Arabic you know years ago says
could you read me some of the Arabic so
I had to read some Arabic to him and it
was actually lousy Arabic because it was
my second year and I was trying to write
an essay second year Arabic student
writing an essay anyway so the long
story short this guy suddenly barks at
me are you a terrorist I said no I'm
trying to help you guys catch the real
terrorists and then they just relax and
and well what do you think happened on
911 they all get out their tons of
notebooks and so I gave them a similar
you know spe that I've just given you
they wrote it all down very seriously
didn't look like they disagreed at all
and then when I left the guy shook my
hand in a very friendly way and wished
me good luck getting my job back so my
take on that was that these new
york-based FBI agents know pretty well
that what I'm saying isn't some crazy on
American conspiracy theory it's uh
pretty much in line with the likely
facts of the case what's your goal at
the end what would you like to see
happen well in you know best of all
possible worlds uh some you know by
Allah some some high level Insider comes
forward or some you know something
happens that forces this issue it forces
the case open uh and I think that that
process could really radically change
things for the better um I think uh a
Truth and Reconciliation Commission a
bit like what happened in South Africa
after the aparte era would be one way to
go and probably a good way get you know
trade truth if you give us truth we'll
give you leniency or even amnesty uh get
that truth out and I think that that
would it would end the current ERA of
extreme Western and Zionist uh
imperialist attacks on the world we're
looking at it right now we're facing
World War III with Russia with China
with North Korea not to mention what's
going on in Syria and the Middle East uh
and all of that is really it's it's
aggressive
coming out of our side here you know and
so we're sitting here in Chicago USA
it's our responsibility to try to get
our side to tone down before we blow up
the world and what better way to do that
than to force them to admit to the
American people the people of the world
that 9/11 was actually wasn't done by
radical evil Muslim evildoers it was
done by the folks who wanted to launch
this aggressive war on the world and the
result this I think would be the United
States would turn towards peace we would
take that money that we're throwing away
on the military for no good purpose
right now and use it to rebuild our
infrastructure and to save the
environment solve The World's
environmental problems and I think that
the rest of the world is really ready
for a multi-polar peaceful world and
would be very happy if this happened and
would go along with it and then I think
this would last but not least also force
a reasonable settlement to the situation
in an occupied Palestine uh so I I think
that we would have innumerable benefits
and of course the dean of Islam would
get a whole new look a whole fresh
perspective people would say wow this is
what this is not what we were told tell
us about Islam and your audience would
Skyrocket tell uh uh one more one more
you know someone who's genuine sincere
and they're looking to really find out
what the purpose of life is like you
were and they come to evaluate all the
different religions and they like you
know the concept in Islam of God that
you only worship the Creator not the
creation the belief in Jesus as a mighty
messenger and doing good deeds and
preparing for the day of judgment by
being the best neighbor you can be by
being the best human being you can be
and this this pure monotheism that's
there but now there's this uh propaganda
out there the Hate Machine is fueled I
think o over a quarter of a million
dollar annual business basing Islam and
someone's affected with this whole thing
of radical Islam radical Muslims you
know Islam is the enemy and without
going into a whole Spiel of all of the
you know the the history we went into
how do you in a short and you don't get
to spend much time with this person how
do you get them to drop a seat to think
beyond what they've been programmed
through the whole Hollywood you know
movie that's been created for them and
they bite on it how do you get them out
of that well cour depends who you're
talking to you know the first the first
and most important thing is to see who
you're talking to and kind of
communicate on their level
uh but right now I'm stuck talking to a
bunch of conspiracy theorists quote
unquote uh because you know I've gone
down these rabbit holes and so and I'm
writing interesting stuff so people are
reading my stuff and listening to my
radio broadcast and so they uh the
people I talk to are people who are more
or less aware of these kinds of
political issues but often you know they
don't know much about Islam or their you
know their spiritual side is different
so for those people I do try to
emphasize the uh know the spiritual
depth of Islam Maybe it has something to
do with the fact that in Islam we have
uh the first two most sort of tangible
names of God that really have a meaning
you know are
are and what that comes from the root
for womb and and translate it as as the
you know compassionate the merciful
whatever the all compassionate the all
merciful it has to do with the love the
loving mercy and loving compassion that
is the kind of love a mother feels for
her children uh this is really
interesting so our vision of God
actually is not the masculine vision of
the father and the Son and the Holy
Spirit uh which is a kind of an all male
reproduction fantasy it's very Mass it's
on one side and it's missing another
side of the Divine so I talk about this
kind of thing to make people sort of
rethink because there are a lot of
people out there now who realize that
the Trinity like H most of the
Christians I meet don't get the Trinity
um most of the Christians I meet or
especially the more sort of high-end you
know educated people see that there is
this kind of you know religion has been
like too male whatever Macho um you know
patriarchal they say well maybe that's
partly because of this God the Father
metaphor you know maybe that's not maybe
Islam is right maybe that's not the
right metaphor so this is the sort of
thing I I talk about to my audience um
but if I were just sitting down sort of
an ordinary person I would hope that uh
just by you know trying to be a good
example a good neighbor uh an honest
person speaking the truth as I see it uh
friendly and um relatively
non-judgmental you know I I I don't want
to be judging on my non-muslim neighbors
and friends too much for some of their
things that they I would like to see
them ultimately change but just just
actually you know be having friendly
relations with non-muslims and and uh
setting a good example that's how Islam
spread so fast across so much of the
world was by people being Pious and
decent and honorable and honest
Merchants uh that's that's ultimately
the bottom line thing we have to do is
to change ourselves we can't change the
world until we change ourselves yeah
that's the Islam that people don't get
to hear about they don't get to see or
read about with all of the the negative
uh stereotypes propagandist out there
how can people get a hold of you they
want invite you to a university to give
a talk to read some of your stuff how
can they get in contact with you well
they can find me through my website
which is truth jihad.com remember the
the best Jihad is a word of Truth flung
in the face of a tyrant uh so so that's
my idea we shouldn't the time for
Bloodshed is over the weapons are too
big and nasty you can't fight Wars
According to Islamic rules very well
anymore uh so we need to wage Jihad of
the tongue speak the truth speak truth
to power so that's that's the truth
Jihad concept the website is truth
jihad.com that's where people can get in
contact with you all your reading
material and yeah you can pretty much
find everything through that thank you
very much thank you Eddie thank you very
much now remember this important point
if all the Muslims were drinking alcohol
doing drugs going to nightclubs
fornicating gambling will that mean
Islam allowed it
no because Islam is clear on the issue
the same way if a Muslim or a group of
Muslims brings harm to an innocent human
being or human beings Islam condemns it
we condemn it and Muslims as you know by
now have become professional condemners
evil acts like
911 which was a catalyst for the war on
Islam that doesn't have any
justification in Islam but has brought
much havoc and harm to Muslims in Islam
we're the ones suffering the most from
it but now critical thinkers scientists
Architects
Engineers are asking the six why
questions like what we discussed on the
show and more are coming
out after investigating the the issue
but why is their right to free speech
which is not a hate filled bigoted
speech like what many of the
islamophobes use that incites violence
in many cases but is they're critical
questions being asked and people who ask
them like Dr Kevin are fired and can't
get a job because they're being censored
is this is that free
speech hate while hate filled speech
which in many cases like I said said
incites violence is is okay but critical
questions like the six questions that we
covered today the why questions you lose
your job is that right let's talk about
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