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talk about interesting topic today
depression why is it that an alarmingly
amount higher percentage of people in
Western countries such as Western Europe
or Europe in general in the United
United States uh experience a higher
rate or percentage of depressed people
quote unquote than people in poor
developing Muslim countries throughout
the quote unquote developing World why
is it that these people in these
countries that claim to be Democratic
IND industrialized westernized and
expose values like absolute freedom and
democracy why is it then that they have
such an in higher number of depressed
people than say people in poor
developing Muslim com countries perhaps
they as they say misery loves company
because they love to force these values
down our throat in any event what about
have you ever considered this why is it
when you ask perhaps an average middle
class American or european for that
matter perhaps this man lives in a
three-bedroom house with two bathrooms a
front yard a backyard two cars and a
garage perhaps he has an advanced
University degree perhaps he has a high
paying job with a good salary and a good
career and you ask him how are you doing
so and so and he says you know I'm not
doing that well I feel depressed why is
it when we travel to Egypt for example
or Nigeria for example when we ask the
average person how are you doing today
they say alhamdulillah thank
Allah we're living in the blessings of
Allah what is the difference between
these two groups what is the difference
between these two psychologies the
condition of the hearts of these two
different people there's a big
discrepancy between them of course we
don't want to belittle this idea of
mental illness because of course many
people do suffer from mental illness
without doubt there's no doubt about
about that but what I want to
investigate and to discover in this
episode today is why is it that this
so-called increase and so-called
depression has coincidentally coincided
with the rise and emergence of
pharmaceutical companies with a huge
amount of profit so joining me today I
have the perfect guest he's a well-known
Muslim scholar he's a very humble man he
is the teacher instructor of tapir at
Huda Online Academy as well as the host
of dear sister and Quran and death he is
the shik from Chicago the IM of America
Z I'm sorry for giving you hard time I
like to te you sh thank you so much for
being on let's talk today it's been a
while since you were since you were with
us last time we have a new set new time
so thank you for coming it's my pleasure
and uh I just want to always tell you
I'd love to have you on the show when I
first became Muslim you had a great
impact on me I remember seeing you on
the dean show with Eddie and uh so you
know thank you for all the great work
you've done for Luma love it's my
pleasure thank you we also have our
studio audience asalamu alikum young men
thank you guys for joining us we have an
interesting group we have two brothers
in the front from Nigeria I believe a
couple Brothers in the back from Germany
Russia and brother where are you from
usbekistan so we have a nice mix I
believe it's it's h you guys there's
three of you guys the first time on
let's talk the Nigerian brother the
German brother have been here before so
welcome back we hope to have you guys
back uh in the future inshallah uh shik
ibraim I read an interesting article let
me read a quote from it published uh by
Forbes Magazine okay um let me get it
here Brit by a woman named Allison van
duen Shake she says and this was in 2007
she says countries that have the highest
rates of depressions are the wealthiest
Nations so wouldn't we expect poor and
developed countries like for example
your native country is Egypt right these
brother from Nigeria they're considered
developing countries not wealthy
countries so wouldn't we expect to see a
higher rate of depression in these
countries than in wealthy
countries these considerations if it's
based on what we see with our own eyes
and our own intellectual abilities yes
we can say these things but the whole
universe is not governed
by what we see and that's basically the
difference between the Believers and the
disbelievers the Believers they see
things through two set of means the
physical means everybody knows that okay
but the the most important set of means
are the religious means the means that
are get to known by the Revelation from
Allah subhana tala so the the the answer
to this is if a person receives or have
the Revelation the true Revelation from
Allah subhana T and following the orders
of Allah subhana tala what H what's
happening it's a mercy of Allah subhana
tal that these or things like that would
happen so that people will constantly be
in need and search for Allah subhana for
them to worship him alone to taste the
real sweetness of what's happiness and
what's content means and what's to be
away from all the different types of
depression and we have in the Quran a
very beautiful verse that Allah
says that whoever do righteous good
deeds and that's the key whoever do
right Good Deeds from male or female and
they are believers Allah says definitely
indeed for sure we would give them a
goodly life and they will be rewarded in
the Hereafter the best of the reward so
this is a challenge you have a challenge
in the Quran if you do righteous good
deeds and you are a Believer you will
have a goodly life and you can Define
goodly life with all its meaning yeah
okay and you know what was amazing to me
to see when I first traveled to uh the
Middle East that you see a man that
perhaps has one/ tenth or or of the
wealth of a man living in the United
States which is my home country and it
was just a really a pleasant surprise to
see that this man mallah is grateful and
appreciative of what he has and perhaps
the other man uh isn't sh I wanted to
ask you a follow up with that um
according to this article it says here
the US tops the list of depressed
Nations it tops the list you uh I
believe studied and lived in the United
States for some time does that fact
surprise you or strike you in a way no
and um part of the the reason as as we
said some of it is something chemistry
and and physics
but when you when you look at the the
life of the people say for example if
you take alcohol from the equation okay
how the life of the people would be
without being intoxicated yeah I think
without Iman of course the depression
will get even worse people run away from
the reality of this life by intoxicating
themselves and in many aspects of their
life they're looking for that form of
intoxication when they're in high school
they're looking to reach the age in
which they can drink and parties and and
people go to work and then come back
from work to get some drinks and so this
is definitely it's a cycle that people
put themselves in but imagine you're
happy when you are sober and you're not
intoxicated that's the real Challenge
and the only way that you can do this
and actually when a person is
intoxicated he is convincing himself
that he's happy yeah but you look at him
and you say I feel bad for you you not
you not even know what happiness is yeah
so people need to believe in Allah
subhana T because happiness if it's
place it's the heart who is the one that
is the owner of the hearts Allah subhana
tala and since this is the case the only
way to to bring the happiness Into the
Heart Is to follow the orders and the
ways that Allah subhana wa tala the Most
High created the human beings to do and
again that's the mercy of Allah imagine
I mean if if Allah subhana T would make
the the disbelievers and the Sinners and
everybody have the ultimate joy in the
face of Earth it's valid to happen but
it's the mercy of Allah that their life
will be like this so that they would
search for something search for the
truth that would give them the
contentment yeah excellent point sh you
know I I read an interesting article
also from the World Health Organization
shik Ibrahim in this Dr B nanin says
there are a lot of important this is a
quote important economic factors
relating to being depressed and you know
in the west we assume that money buys
happiness and we automatically assume
that accumulating wealth means by
default I will be happy and spiritually
satisfied but what you're saying this is
not the case at all in fact they could
be totally disconnected right this is
definitely the case because even the
prophet he said in the
authentic which means if the son of Adam
has a valy of gold he would never be
satisfied he wants another Valley of
gold and if he has two he wants to have
three and as the richest people on the
face of Earth are you satisfied that say
no till we make sure that next year we
top the list of the richest people in
the world there never satisfaction there
and the prophet wasallam said and the
only thing that would fill the mouth of
the human being or the son of Adam is
the dust basically means when he goes
into the grave and he's buried so if if
the concern is this world there's never
satisfaction the person is just running
and running after the materialistic
things of this world unless the person
understand the purpose of our life we're
not created just to eat and drink and to
accumulate wealth after a person dies he
leaves all of that behind so what's the
point of it you leave it behind you
don't take it with you right the only
thing that we take with us is the belief
and the Good Deeds or the bad Deeds so
if the concern is the Hereafter life on
this face of Earth will have all forms
of contentment and happiness and by the
way among the Muslims nowadays
depression is even getting higher and
higher why because many people are being
away from the truth they're so attached
to this world and religion becomes just
form of of some rituals yeah exercise
like jumping jacks right right or just
get some blessing sometime you know
making the Salah or even for the worldly
gain a person making the Salah and
establishing the Salah for what reason
so that his business will be blessed
right so that his family will be blessed
this is not the intentions why we do
worship Allah subhana tala right it's
for the Hereafter once the intention is
clear that we are in need and we want
the reward in the herea
then everything by the will of Allah
subhana would be very good and beautiful
I'm glad you mentioned that because I
did see online that some stats about
Muslim countries having increasing
amount of depression I believe this is
the Western influence and that Muslims
shouldn't be deceived because the grass
is always greener on the other side if
you're not confident with your Dean uh I
want to go to studio audience we have
this brother San abubakr he's a regular
to let's talk asalam alikum brother how
are
youum brother you I want to ask you a
question before I let you speak I'm
sorry first of all you're you're
studying to be a is that right insh okay
I want to ask you I know your native
country is Nigeria if I told you that
19.6% ofer Americans are depressed as
compared to 8% of adult Nigerians what
would you think about that does that
surprise you it doesn't surprise me at
all why not because um basically let me
start with a point uh as as true
believers we have to believe in one of
the six articles of Faith which is
whether it's good or bad so if a Muslim
doesn't willingly submit to the will of
Allah to agree that when a good thing or
a bad thing happens to me is from Allah
you will definitely be depressed I can
tell you in Nigeria uh about 40% of the
population are not just Rich they're
extremely rich but they're not depressed
at all because they're very religious
most especially from the northern part
where we have this is not stereotyping
but from northern part where we have a
lot of Muslims and they're very rich I
think the 53rd richest person in the
whole world is from Nigeria oh and and I
can tell you I know some of his family m
members and they're not depressed at all
he himself I'm not I can't say much
about him but well his family members
that I know they are rich and very
religious so the most important thing is
just like submitting to the will of
Allah willingly and just putting
everything putting your whole trust in
him that's just the most important thing
of course than brother you know I read
in the magazine in the United States it
said that more Americans are depressed
because they've been educated about
depression but isn't that like circular
logic like they tell you you're
depressed and then you oh yeah I am
depressed I uh personally I think
in America what causes depression I
don't think is the money but I think
it's the pressure the pressure to please
the creations of Allah not to please
Allah himself because in America I think
one one kind of thinking we have in
Nigeria is generally we see the
Americans as weaking no offense but we
see them as wanting to please their
friends wanting to please people and all
you go to you you spend money you don't
have money you know you wouldn't gain to
just please people I mean you don't
please the creations of Allah you please
allow excellent point thank you brother
for that sh also read actually the most
depressed country in the world was
France according to this article I
believe published by the World Health
Organization 21% of French people are
depressed and America dropped in there
at 19.6 but isn't it a little bit
interesting shake that these are the two
countries that continuously export their
culture to the Middle East and they say
we are so-called civilized Democratic we
enjoy absolute freedom we are liberated
you guys aren't we have the superior
Superior culture so why why is that then
how can this be
how can it be when they according to
these numbers are the most
oppressed well see the brother touched a
very important point the issue of the
Articles of Faith or the pillars of one
of which is the believe in the to
believe in the destiny of Allah subhana
tala and the belief of the destiny of
Allah subhana wa tala if you see it's
the last pillar of Al IM in order like
this the first one is is the believe in
Allah subhana wa tala if a person
believes in Allah subhana tala with his
names and attributes one of the
attributes of Allah subhana wa tala that
he is the most wise that means nothing
happens in the creation of Allah subhana
wa tala unless it's by the wisdom of
Allah subhana T and his knowledge and
his mercy so once you have that as as a
belief and anything that happens to you
why people get depressed they lose their
job economic problems depressions
whatever there is right so materialistic
things on the face of Earth for a Muslim
for a Believer he understands very well
that this has happened by the most White
Allah subhana t for a great purpose and
we even know the purpose we know the
reason behind it the the the very broad
reason for everything is is for people
to establish the worship of Allah
subhana tala worshiping Allah subhana
tala is not just to do some rituals okay
or not just to be grateful is also to be
patient because he's the Creator and
since the human being has this the
different many acts of worship that we
are different than the angels for
example and that's why the human beings
if they would fulfill these acts of
worship Allah
tala will be pleased with them so in
many of these countries when people do
not practice to be patient for the sake
of Allah subhana to believe in the
wisdom of Allah subhana wa tala and it
won't happen by just educating them and
telling them by words like this you have
to embrace and submit yourself to the
only Creator and that is Allah subhana
wa tala by saying I bear witness that
there is no one worthy of worship except
Allah subhana wa tala that's the only
one to be worshiped and the only one to
be followed is when you say I bear
witness the prophet Muhammad s aliam is
the final messenger everything will make
sense there won't be any more confusion
or why and where and how and things like
this yeah excellent point Thank you sh
IIM I want to touch on another concept
that we grew up with in America and
that's his concept of of absolute
freedom and it's not just in Western
countries we find it in Latin America in
some Asian countries I mean we look at
Mexico South America Brazil uh Japan
they have a culture of for the from what
I understand like open sexual activity
and they're quote unquote liberated also
shake when I was in the United States
people said oh this brother his wife
covers her hair she's not liberated yet
she's they're unhappy they're oppressed
but we see here according to the World
Health Organization um Brazil
18.4% uh depression so obviously doesn't
this can we learn a lesson from this
that this kind of free lifestyle of open
sexuality as we see in Japan and Brazil
and United States in Mexico it isn't the
way to happiness is it it's not because
no matter how much the human beings they
try their best to figure out what is
right and what is wrong they have no
capacity to do that they would never be
able to do that unless they get to know
that from their creator they can advance
so much in chemistry in physics
technology mallah no problem but once
you get to your happiness and to what is
right and what is wrong and things like
this you need the final Revelation from
Allah subhana so one of the examples is
the the the freedom when it comes to for
example sexual activities and so on
people think that those who would
deprive themselves from illicit
relationships and they would just make
it only permissible in in a husband and
wife relationship they're basically
deprived deprived from all kinds of good
things and it's the total opposite yeah
the real enjoyment comes when a person
is obedient to Allah subhana tala person
might say but a disbeliever doesn't
believe in this it's a fact of life and
we wish that people would ask the
Muslims about whether they are happy or
not and not to ask you know someone else
about them yeah yeah yeah ask the source
right so a person is just going after
one's desire it it breaks all kinds of
of goodness that is present in the heart
yeah and one of the the values in the
religion of Islam that is saved and we
were talking about that earlier is the
family when a person has a stable Family
Life a child is grown seeing a father
and a mother and each one knows their
role the father goes out and work right
and he does not come back reminding the
mother that he is the superior one that
he's the one that is providing and she
has to be subservient never he is
dealing with her with all decency
because the prophet sallam ordered him
and she is taking care of her children
and she seeking rewards from Allah
subhana tala by taking care of the
children healthy environment a person
growing up in such an environment he's
stable right but you find how many
what's the percentage of children being
born out of wock too many there's no
father in life yeah this is in Islam
called an orphan yeah you get rewards by
just if you put your hand on the head of
someone that doesn't have a father the
the reward that you pass your hand on on
his hair is with every hair you get a
reward from Allah subhana this is
orphanage many people are raised to be
orphans when their fathers are are still
alive why because there's no father and
mother figures in their life which
definitely affect their life so much
even breastfeeding it's mentioned verses
in the Quran that talks about
breastfeeding and that's the right of
the child and you can talk about all the
different research that talk about this
and the benefit that happen and the
stability in the emotions and the mental
capacity of children versus being just
raised on manufactured stuff course
business people want to make money you
know and they keep getting into the
woman that because of her shape because
of her look because of this and because
of that and then what happens
Generations are being lost yeah of
course excellent point in shim I think a
lot of people don't realize when they
say okay now you're Muslim Mal you're
you're married you've now you have one
wife whereas I have girlfriends and this
and that they don't realize now you feel
you do feel liberated because you don't
feel the social pressures anymore to
live up to those standards so I think
these people that are following their
desires they're really hollow inside I
know I live that life and many Americans
have live that life and this is the road
down the wrong uh path so we want to
give them the D we want to talk to them
about Islam you guys in the studio
audience you have any questions for sh
ibraim go ahead
brother my question is that according to
the the topic we're talking about I
think do you mean could we say that this
type of depression is not among the
minor signs of the day of judgment
because all what we are we are seeing
here and there that here there's no
peace in the world again here killings
present here and there so do you think
so or what you if and if yes what do you
think that you can tell before you enter
I just want to tell the all the viewers
that muhamad GAR is our good friend he
comes to let's talk very often he's a
student at alsar University he just
finished his exams brother how did they
go in do you feel confident I'm sure you
did wellah I'm confident okay thank you
so much Muhammad for being with us insh
today thank you so much so that
excellent question is like this sign of
of increasingly depr this a sign a minor
minor sign it's one of the signs of the
day of judgment not the depression part
but the sign of the day of judgment the
the too much killing in which the
prophet wasallam called it alj and when
they asked the prophet wasallam what is
Al he said killing in which the killer
he doesn't know why he's killing and the
killed does know why he's being killed
just killing for the sake of killing and
this is something that we see this in
many places in the world certainly
that's definitely the the the lack of
security that causes depression one of
the means or the the reasons for
depression is the lack of security and
the fitan the tribulations all over the
world which is also one of the signs of
the day of judgment there are more fitan
as the prophet predicted that would
happen it would make things as if you
are in a total darkness of the night
that you can't see what's the next step
to be so these tribulations also cause
so much depression but the way out of
this is to be steadfast on the orders of
Allah subhana wa tala and the prophet
sallallahu alaihi wasallam when talking
about matters of the the signs of the
hour and so on he said that there will
still be a group of
people they're always on the truth
nothing would affect them when it comes
to those who oppose them because the
pressure is too much for you to be
steadfast and to be patient applying the
way the prophet
it's not going to be physically easy
when someone looking at it from far away
distance but take this path be patient
seek rewards some Allah subhana wa tala
Allah subhana T will make it easy for
you and you will be the happiest person
on the face of Earth I remember the
sahabi the companion of the Prophet
imagine someone someone stab him right
the first words comes out of his mouth
in the battlefield when he sees the
blood you know from his forehead into
his hand that means he's he's dead he's
going to die the first word that comes
out of his mouth
is which means I'm a winner by the lord
of the Kaa what kind of happiness that
is present in the heart you know this is
the most the last moment so what was his
life wasik this is you know if somebody
would say this is like a fairy tale but
these are realities right so the only
thing that brings the happiness is Faith
the proper Faith right so we have to
seek the proper faith and this is a call
to everyone even again it's it's more
increasingly among the Muslims when we
get to attach to to this world imitating
the the disbelievers living their life
thinking that this is the way of
Happiness it's like intoxication right
and then after that a person would wake
up maybe late maybe early allaham we
need to make sure that the the honor and
the dignity and the happiness is in
following the prophet in all aspects of
Life Of course Muslims I think these
days are being deceived by this Western
Society uh sh IIM you had mentioned that
story about the sahabi that's a
beautiful story it reminded me of a sad
story of a man I went to high school
with he who was very depressed he said
and he shot himself and he died and it
really makes me sad but I want to share
the story with the viewers as well it's
I live in a small town and the the man
that works in the ambulance which
another one of our friend and you know
what he said when I picked up this man
and they saw him like this they drove
him to the hospital they knew he was
going to die you know what he was saying
before he died he said he said he was
saying I don't want to die so Subhan
Allah look at the comparison I'm I'm
getting sad just thinking about it but
this is because you said it's linked to
knowing who your creator is and having
good e and I want to say something if
you don't mind part of it is our faults
actually when we talk about others what
what are we doing with all the capacity
and the means we have to convey the
truth to the people it is the right of
every human being that they get to know
about the religion of Islam see people
talk about human rights right the most
important human right is that when they
are deprived from getting to know the
true message of Al Islam when it's
distorted this is the worst crime that
can be ever committed on the face of
Earth because it causes this it causes
for the person to die enter the Hell
Fire and we are relaxed and not doing
anything and not doing our job in
conveying the message and calling others
to Allah subhana wa tala but we have to
gain the knowledge first right that's
why the matter is so serious we cannot
just be saying a Muslim and then we're
living our life according to our own
desires we need to take the religion
seriously we need to learn it we need to
apply it and we need to call others to
see this truth it's not enough some
people say as long as you have good
manners and good character you don't
have to deliver the message directly
it's not enough you have to deliver the
message at some point actually it's it's
a good point because once you are a good
Muslim and you you you act and and you
talk like a good Muslim and everything H
you don't have to unless there is a need
and there is a situation where the
person he needs to know you're calling
them to Allah subhana tala and most of
the human beings they believe in Allah
subana right The Atheist are not too
many people on the face of earth right
most of the people they believe in Allah
they believe the existence of Allah that
he's the Creator the sustainer they just
need somebody to tell them if you
believe in the creator of the heavens
and the Earth worship him alone yeah to
go to the next step to not associate
partners with him right is natural and
most of the people they would agree that
that makes sense right and that's the
message of Islam you submit yourself
when you were born when you die you're
in state of submission you breathe the
air that Allah created you are in state
of submission right willingly submit to
Him worship Him alone yeah I like way
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physician right here uh San abubakr go
ahead brother it's not more of a
question but kind of like a a
contribution well if we take a normal
male female relationship we need
basically three things love Faith in
that person and Trust TR so taking this
we can put it into our relationship with
Allah most people have the faith most
people believe in Allah but most people
do not trust Allah very most people
think okay I love Allah so automatically
I trust him but it's not basically that
way and I think that's the main
ingredient in killing depression I just
think it's the main thing because if you
have love in your heart and you trust
well what he's doing is right for me
it's okay for example there was a plane
crash in Nigeria a couple of days back
uh 160 people died there was uh someone
who was meant to be on the flight and he
his his like his assistant called him
and said hey you forgot this file at
home when he got home he like queried
the assistant and they got into a hot
argument that why wouldn't you even put
it in my bag and this that only for him
to be on his way back to the airport and
he had the plane he was supposed to get
in crashed and there are so many other
stories that happened like that so
basically I think trust is just the most
important thing and that goes back to
your destiny doesn't thank you very much
brother that goes back to your destiny
being decreed your you know your destiny
is already written for you uh Shiki I
had an interesting experience a couple
weeks ago I was talking to some friends
and family back home on Skype and uh
something came to my mind when I thought
about some of my old friends and they're
old you know back in my life in the
United States before I moved to the
Middle East and I thought Subhan Allah
although these people are not Muslims
many of them like I said in the intro
they have a nice house with a backyard
and a front yard a garage with two cars
two bathrooms very comfortable lifestyle
and they're not grateful for it and they
even say I'm depressed after that and if
that's not bad enough sometimes they
openly say and by the way we're atheists
so this depression if it's not a a
sincere illness uh you know chemical
imbalance that's been confirmed by a
doctor uh isn't this linked to
ungratefulness right you're you're not
grateful for the big blessings Allah has
given you right I mean this is really
really really irritates me definitely
being grateful to Allah subhana T this
is an act of worship that we have many
verses in the Quran that talks about
this and the Hadith of the prophet wasam
and it doesn't take too much of thinking
for a person to see that we need to be
grateful to Allah subhana wa tala the
one that gave us this life the one that
gave us everything we have is Allah
subhana wa tala but again if a person
doesn't have faith gratefulness will be
for what for the materialistic things on
on the face of Earth if they lose this
then what they're being grateful for
right but if a person would understand
the purpose of the life and then this
life is connected to the Hereafter when
when a person get to see what is right
and what is wrong and he's guided to the
truth this is the the the most important
thing to be grateful for and that is the
religion of- Islam to be happy that a
person is guided to to be happy that a
person submit himself or herself to
Allah subhana wa tala and to the extent
of which when we eat we know the sunah
of the Prophet that when we when we eat
we sayah and then after we finish we are
grateful to Allah subhana wa tala and we
say
that that means a person is being
grateful to Allah the one that provide
for us food and drink without power from
us whatsoever this is another key that
you see yourself when it comes to your
relationship with the creator of the
heavens and earth that you have no means
whatsoever you're so humble you have no
power you have no might you cannot move
your hand from one place to the other
except by the will of Allah subhana tala
so you will have this trust in Allah t
as the brother was saying by the way the
example that he said which is a very
important one but I wanted to say
something about it this brother that was
saved from uh the plane crash why didn't
he why wasn't he happy when he missed
the flight from the beginning that's the
key oh good
point we need to choose to be happy at
all cases and all times before seeing
the outcome of our actions you're happy
at all conditions because why because
what happened now since it happened it
was written it was by the destiny of
Allah subhana wa tala and you know that
this is comes from the most TSE subhana
wa tala he's the most TSE right so since
the Believers they love Allah subhana wa
tala the perfect love they're happy they
choose to be in that state of Happiness
not to wait right to see the outcome
alhamdulillah that I didn't do that you
should say that early on yeah right at
all times what did the prophet mam what
did he say when he received bad news he
would say alhamdulillah mean meaning
which means alhamdulillah praise be to
Allah subhana under any situation okay
right when he would see something that
he
likes he would say
which means alhamdulillah praise be to
Allah subhana tala the one that by his
grace by his bounties the the
righteousness or the good things happens
so it's both alhamdulillah right but yes
as human beings we tend to be said
there's nothing wrong and even is it
valid for Muslim to be depressed it can
happen Okay it can happen but the weak
we are weak we are human being but then
we know how to get ourselves out turn
yourself to Allah subhana wa tala we are
not saying that we are perfect human
beings we'll have some moments of
weaknesses but turn to the creator of
the heavens and the Earth alone don't
think of anyone turn to him alone and I
don't want to keep it too but I remember
a brother and this brother I always
mention him in such cases like this he
was a non-muslim and he became a Muslim
and he was shot in his back and he was
you know on a wheelchair you know
totally paralyzed except the muscles of
his face and the index finger in which
he can move the the wheelchair and
things like this this brother he would
go from one operation after the other
cancer he died may Allah subhana have
mercy on him
but if someone wants to have some
inspiration they would go visit this
brother every time you go visit him the
first words that comes out out of his
mouth when he ask him how are you he
would say alhamdulillah Allah blessed me
by the religion of Islam yeah imagine
and he would call people to Islam people
were amazed that how can a person like
this would shoot himself out of
depression but instead he would talk to
them about how Allah subhana T bestowed
his Bounty onto him people would come
into the fold of Islam as a result of
this man tens of them you know he brings
to the Masjid and he would go all all
the time to the mjid don't miss the
Salah for the most part attend the
lectures and so on he's just an
inspiration to everybody it's just the
heart how the person is it's the heart
and Allah is in control of the heart so
in Allah will open all of our hearts and
to have this sort of appreciation for
life I have a list of the 18th uh 18
most uh depressed countries we said
France America Brazil let me read them
to you shake NE Netherlands New Zealand
Ukraine Belgium Colombia it goes on uh
just in short there's 18 there's only
one Muslim country on the list Lebanon
but of course Lebanon is a country that
has been highly affected by col
colonialization in this kind of Fran
profile country uh what I found
interesting was seven of them are
European countries and 10 are developed
countries Shake I heard an interesting
man say when we when Western people say
we are civilized and this is
civilization let he said let's define
this word civilization what do we mean
do we mean scientific advancement
without any moral development no that
that's not so we need a balance of the
two right sh correct and and the reason
real civilization is the one that would
have an impact and a benefit on the
moral level of the human beings and and
where is these benefits if if if people
are scientifically Advanced and created
all kinds of materialistic and good
things this is good and definitely you
benefit from it you know we benefit from
it in anything that we do which is a
great thing but without the proper
behavior of a human being without the
basically the faith if a person live the
most advanced life and then after he
dies or she dies where he is put he's
put in a grave he goes back to Earth no
advancement down there nothing
whatsoever so it's just the 60 70 years
that a person lives and then everlasting
life after that in misery what is what
is for what is the purpose of this then
so we do not undermine the the
advancement and and so on this is
something definitely that is good but
without faith without the righteous
Deeds without the morals that we need to
adhere to it is of no benefit it
beautify everything else if the person
have faith and righteous and
righteousness and so on it it adorns it
right but without it is just you know
it's just fake yeah of course and Shake
you know I've read a lot of articles
that say you know in the 1980s all of a
sudden there was an increasingly higher
percentage of so-called uh depressed
people at the same time we see the
emergence of pharmaceutical countries uh
companies so this has become a huge uh a
huge business I believe there's stats
here that say you know Americans have
spent annually over100 billion a year to
fix this quote unquote Disease by
visiting therapists and taking
medication of course we're not
undermining people that have sincere
illnesses illness and needs but this has
become a a big profitable business and I
believe Shake it's like we said it's
because people become shallow or hollow
inside because they have no link to
their lord and they look for any outside
mean any pill anything to cure uh this
disease but what is the cure they're
looking for cure but again no matter how
much a person looks we cannot figure
that out we need to understand that from
the creator of the heavens and earth
Allah subhana says about the
Quran that we bring down from the Quran
what is cure and mercy to the Believers
so the the answer is the Quran is the
way the cure to the disease to the
depression to everything is the Quran
the Quran for a person to believe in it
and to recite it and to ponder over it
and again if a Muslim is is feeling
depressed and again this is valid and we
receive more and more of the Cs where
people are being depressed as them about
how you are with the
Quran you you would find that they're
not spending too much time with the
Quran they maybe recite once in a while
and so on spend more time with the Quran
recite Quran if you do not speak the
language of the Quran learn it and take
the time to learn it and take the time
to ponder over the meaning and you never
know how long a person lives and
intentions goes beyond one's actions you
know if it if you take 10 years what's
wrong with that but then you would get
to taste the sweetness of the Quran once
the Quran is present in the heart all
the different beautiful meanings the
Trust In Allah subhana wa tala you would
always go back to the Quran and see
guidance from it and see things in the
clear way and that's definitely the way
of happiness and of course this is a
wakeup call for all of us because we can
use this as a preventative me measure as
opposed to waiting until we feel
depressed to seek uh to seek our U to
read Quran we can do this before in
establish a regime and this is also the
the the beauty of Islam developing a
prayer regime and reading Quran before
you get depressed it's important shake
what about look at this suicide rates
2011 uh the World Health Organization uh
made four groups High suicide rates uh
very very high high medium and low as if
we can right categorize it that way
right anyways the first group it says
Russia 38 suicide excuse me Lithuania 42
suicides per 100,000 then Russia 38
belus 35 Ukraine Hungary Ukraine Etc um
people maybe say there's something
linked to the to the weather because
it's cold there I don't know I don't
know if that's true or not but we do see
these countries they were uh outright
atheist countries under the Communist
Regime uh we know there's a high rate of
alcoholism uh in these countries so all
this has to be related having no faith
in God consuming alcohol of look what it
leads to Suicide right yeah the prophet
s wasallam said about those who are
attached to this world as if they are
slaves of the materialistic life
yes can you can you recite this read
this
Prophet which means meaning he is
miserable the slave of the dollar the
slave of the money the slave of the Nice
Clothing the slave of the materialistic
things of this world and then the
prophet s wasallam said that he is
inverted like this he's never he never
had it had it right he's always in a
miserable way of life and the point
is if he is poked the slight pain with
the with the thorn right he would never
the prophet as if he's making Dua onto
that for to that person that he it would
never leave him that means the slightest
pain that a person would get when he is
in that state it becomes a very huge
problem problem for him the slightest
pain okay and then the prophet wasallam
showed the sign of such a person who is
this person the one that when he is
given he's happy and satisfied and if he
is not given he's angry and mad and you
know protesting the the of Allah right
right so it it's basically Define or
divide the people into two groups right
okay either you want this world or you
want the Hereafter and we need to ask
ourselves this question Muslims and
everybody do you want this world or do
you want the Hereafter and we have to be
truthful with ourselves if you want this
world and the concern is this world what
happens to you the prophet wasam
said whoever this world becomes his
concern means Allah subhana wa T will
make his concerns so scattered that he
can't get things focused on what you
want and things like this
and and he would always his poverty
between his eyes meaning he always sees
himself as poor okay sees himself in
need he wants to do this and he wants to
do that and nothing of this world will
come to him except what what
destined for him on the other side
whoever his concern is the Hereafter
doesn't mean that we'll go to the Jungle
or the desert somewhere but the concern
is the Hereafter you would live your
life and you would be obedient to Allah
subhana T but the heart is attached to
the Hereafter what happens Allah subhana
will make his richness is in his heart
and he would bring things together for
him right makes it easy for him and the
dya this world will come to him will be
forced to come to him so this is
basically the point we need to be among
those who are seeking the rewards in the
Hereafter and it's it's very short life
is very short yeah of course certainly
Shake interestingly I know your home
country is Egypt uh group three very low
Egypt had zero suicide rates for 100,000
mashallah uh Jordan had zero as well and
Kuwait had two I thought that was very
interesting because those are Muslim
dominated countries without doubt of
course Kuwait and Jordan they they enjoy
uh perhaps maybe a bit more modern than
Egypt but Mah I was very happy to see
those or I thought those those figures
showed us a lot shik about the
connection that we have to have with our
creator in order to to be satisfied uh
shake when you talk about two groups of
people people looking at the afterlife
and here in this worldly life it doesn't
mean we can't enjoy this worldly life
right we can enjoy but we have to be our
priority has to be obedience to Allah
you can name any joy that people receive
on the face of Earth and will find the
Halal alternative for it if you talk
about the for men for example the desire
with the opposite with with women of
course we have marriage right the legal
the proper way yeah and yeah that's and
a person would enjoy his life like this
and if when it comes to drinking a
person leaves all the intoxications but
water is halal juice is Hal nice things
to so different things to be done the
same thing when it comes to food right
when it comes to just you know a person
can play sports do whatever a person
would do according to the proper
guidelines of course and people enjoy
their life but we have to set the goals
and the means straight right this is not
the goal this is just a mean to
establish the worship of Allah subhana T
when a person when it's time for the
Salah a person would leave everything to
establish the Salah alhamdulillah that
the Salah you won't find it 50 prayers a
day it's only five right and still it
becomes so heavy to some people when
when the meeting is at D time they would
prefer the meeting and not to worship
Allah subhana T that takes 10 to 15
minutes or even less which is a very sad
thing for us as Muslims Muslims when the
M they don't find it filled with the
people those who are you know
establishing the Salah and so on so we
have a problem we need to work on
ourselves and that's why the situation
of the Muslim all over the world as you
see it's because we turned away from the
from holding fast to the perfect truth
when you read these things people might
think Mah the Muslim world is you know
on the Sunnah all of them this is not
the case this is by the mercy of Allah
that with all the problems that we have
Allah is the most merciful there's still
there's still goodness in this um which
is true you if you if you see a Muslim
in the street for the most part doing
something wrong if you go humbly in a
nice way you talk to him people would
say you're right you know I have
problems I have this which is you know
imagine in the different parts of the
world people would say it's it's not of
your business you know go away yeah so
so there is goodness in the um but but
we need to work on on this so that
people would come back you know into the
issue of following the dean and
following the the prophet thank you sh
there's also Hadith that says I believe
something to the effect there will
always be goodness in my um right this
is true this is true always there will
be goodness in the and there will always
be group of people that would be always
on the truth and or goodness is present
in this um we just need to you know in
something you have a a beautiful diamond
for example and it's dusty right you
don't see it just need to brush it to
work on it so once the the Iman is there
we just need to work on establishing
this by being obedient to Allah subhana
wa tala and people are being bombarded
with with the with the media and all the
different conspiracies on the Muslim um
to make
them a copy from the disbelievers so the
struggle is to adhere to the way of the
prophet and to be honored and to be
dignified by the de of Islam you need to
be dignified with your actions and your
speech that the best way we see people
probably hear it in
every the best guidance is the guidance
of prophet Muhammad are we as Muslims
saying that with our actions and our
speech even the way we look even the way
that we dress the the way that we act
our belief our everything in our life
relationships at home outside buying and
selling the the the role model is the
prophet and where is the when we educate
ourselves about the way the prophet
sallallahu alaihi wasallam thank you sh
you know this is this show let's talk
it's geared toward toward youth so when
I see young people that have been
deceived for this to go away from their
Dean into this kind of Western culture
and they're smoking cigarettes I tell
them the prayers five times a day but
but there's 20 cigarettes in that 20
cigarettes in that pack of cigarettes
you're smoking so consider that you know
it's not that hard or for example young
people you know many of them have
girlfriends and we have to admit this
and we have to this is a um a temptation
of all people especially teenagers and
young men and women so I tell them you
guys I I marriage is something beautiful
and special and you don't don't forget
that and I've read I always remind them
this article that I read a percentage uh
it said that a higher percentage of of
people this was the United States uh a
people that were sexually sexually
satisfied in the United States were
married couples yeah Subhan Allah so
like you said when you're running for
the D all the time it doesn't come to
you so I think that's an excellent point
Shake thank you for your time pleas I
hope you come back soon to let's talk
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