this is Muhammad haib I believe he and
like you said we're not trying to change
the age of consent in any country what's
he saying they're defending he's
defending Muhammad is us I don't believe
in that I've never said that once in my
entire life the prophet Muhammad was
betrothed to Asia they're not interested
in honest academic discussion they're
interested in insult a relative that's
our guy mohed go ahead even when they're
attacking him they're affirming the
miraculous nature of that verse of the
Quran anyone or anything from his
enemies brought this attack up against
him at that time is believing that AA
being the age of 9 years old an article
of Islamic faith is it one of the five
pillars of IM or one of the five pillars
of Islam No it's not Elon mus also
tweeting something about how I actually
agree that there should be an age of
consent because not just about clicks
and Views and whatnot you're going to
end up leaving all this money behind
you're going to be in the grave if he
was in the United Kingdom I would sue
him for defamation of character uh was
he a virgin Tom Jesus Christ yes okay
and 1,00% disagree with numbers chap
31:8 just one question what is an adult
you think you're going to be spoken
about in the year
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welcome to the dean show looks like
Islam is still living rentree and
Patrick B David and the pbd guys Crews
heads it's like Islam is the only
religion that's got them talking now
there's a recent show they just did that
was brought to my attention and we're
going to go through this episode their
podcast with the person that they were
actually talking about it's my brother
and your
brother Muhammad hijab let's go ahead
and look at this clip and we'll go ahead
and cover this together if you're a
Muslim you can say yes we're winning
we're taking over yeah you're right you
are guess what UK allowed you to do it
props to the religion of Islam for being
able to infiltrate so props to them for
infiltrating but guess whatam
alayum this is
the is
thean this is the
Dean this is the dean
show what's up my brother how you doing
how you doing you okay we missed each
other in Bosnia man what happened ah it
has to happen I was coming you were
leaving yes yes Subhan Allah Subhan
Allah it's true we need to make it
happen properly you know yes
alhamdulillah but we had the other crew
there all of us were together had a
great time inshallah we can connect next
time there how was your trip there great
beautiful beautiful country honestly
it's a very beautiful it's a Hidden Gem
really I think Bosnia is one of those
destinations that people um don't know
about like it's especially if you're
coming from the UK uh or Western Europe
it's pretty cheap to get there and
you're getting a good bang for your buck
as a holidays got a beautiful um Vibe
very vibrant very culturally rich and
the food is beautiful and the the
weather is beautiful as well so yeah I
like I'm coming back for sure inshallah
next trip inshallah we'll see each other
there inshallah tell me what you think
now we got Patrick B David Islam is rent
rent living and him and his Crews there
the pbd podcast it's like they they it's
living rentree uh and then here he's
talking about Islam in the Muslims
infiltrated they have infiltrated the
UK congratulations to um what do you
think when you hear this well I mean the
thing is the lived experience of most
Muslim people in the United Kingdom is
not um of some kind of orchestrated
infiltration I mean most people if you
look at the Muslim Community right the
Muslim Community is
composed uh mostly of subcontinental
Asians so you the number one Community
is Pakistan I think there's about a
million of those and then you've got I
think now draw second place are both the
Somali community and the bang Mongolia
Community um so and then you've got like
Arabs you know maybe 3 400,000 Arabs in
uh in the UK as well which is not as
much and then maybe some other Africans
from other places and about 100,000 um
converts according to Stats maybe
150,000
um who are indigenous white Brits um
living in in the United so about 6% of
the population um of the United Kingdom
is Muslim um and so if you look at the
history of how then and why they came
over it's actually uh mostly to do with
World War II and after World War II
Britain wanted because they had had
severe infrastructural damage due to the
Germans they wanted people from their ex
colonies to come and fix up the country
and so it wasn't like some planned
orchestrated infiltration that's
historically inaccurate you know it's it
was just the fact that you know the
britishers at the time they wanted
people to come and fix the country from
EXC colonies and they allowed Indians to
come in they allow pakistanis to come in
they actually called them to come in
benulis to come in ETC uh when they did
come in obviously the reproduction rate
for Muslim people is more than
non-muslim people and so they were able
to exponentially grow and it's not even
when we talk about exponential growth
once again let us put things in context
there are 6% Muslims in the United
Kingdom so it is what it is that's how
it happened and you got other
communities of afghanis and somalis Etc
who have come as refugees after Wars
that had um taking place a lot of it due
to actually Colonial intervention um and
a lot of it due to foreign intervention
a direct intervention by the United
States of America in the case of
Afghanistan they invaded Afghanistan and
so they had to now deal with the problem
of the immigrants coming from
Afghanistan uh and Iraq and other places
uh to the United Kingdom so here you
have obviously you've got Syria as well
is another prime example of uh a country
that was inflicted by War and people
coming so it wasn't some plann
orchestrated infiltration this was just
poor people in disenfranchised positions
in different countries in the world who
had either been invited to come by the
state who had been fleeing some kind of
War situ situation um and they just
wanted to protect themselves in their
life so this is the reality of the
situation let's go on to this next clip
here and at the first time I went to
London I thought that I'd be eating teen
crumpets old time turns out I was almost
under Sharia law he what pretty
interesting so you can see this guy uh
here he's talking about the first time
he went to the UK he points out he felt
like he was almost under
Sharia what do you think about that well
I mean London is Mega City and it's one
of the the most uh well-known cities in
the world there's about 10 billion
people in London and to put things in
perspective London is bigger than any
other city in the United States so if
London was a city in the United States
it would be the biggest city in the
United States even bigger than in size
and population than New York actually so
10 million is a big city of the 10
million population is about 1 million
Muslims so the
majority of London is actually composed
of non-muslims about you could say let's
be liberal about say 15% of the
population of London is uh Muslim and
there are areas which have a high
concentration of Muslim people like T
hamlets parts of West London parts of
Northwest London parts of uh obviously
East London as well as the in the main
area but it's inaccurate to suggest that
Muslims number one are so pervasive in
that City that there are not it's a
multicultural City it is a multicultural
City and even in places like um East
London you'll find there's a very
interesting mix between people who are
from different faiths different
countries different communities there is
no Sharia law in in London you know the
the aan is not even said out loud I
think it's only said out loud in one
Masjid in the entire city so what he's
doing is he's insulting the intelligence
of what you know people who are cultured
in World Travel because anyone who's
been to London would not characterize it
in the in the way that he has his
praying I think and uh taking advantage
of the fact that majority of American
people will not leave their own country
and so will not be able to verify his
nonsense H the truth of the matter is
that you know London is a Cosmopolitan
European city with a 15% Muslim
population uh which is largely dispersed
a lot of them are concentrated in East
London but East London as I say is go
and see what East London looks like East
London has got places like brick Lan has
got places like um
sh dit sh dit is very much you know
gentrified if you want to put it in that
language no one no one walking around in
sh ditch okay which is in East London
and right next to the major Muslim
Community no one walking around who are
homosexual openly homosexual openly
wearing all all kinds of clothes that
you can can see that they are from a
left leaning kind of background are you
know uh compromised in any way go and
ask the people of shortage how they feel
about living with Muslim people Etc and
U you'll see you'll see that this is
nonsense it doesn't happen what they're
talking about is is a fiction it's a
mythology it doesn't exist in the real
world I think you once told me that they
actually have in certain parts of the UK
you have the Jewish quarters that they
have their own Sharia courts they have
their own ambulances their own police
but nobody's making a fuss about that no
we're not making yeah I mean the Muslim
Community in London is much more than
the Jewish Community there's no question
about it but there are areas in London
like Gold's green um which which are
very openly like you know you can see um
hered Jews walking around everywhere
they have their own some of them you
know they have their own systems they
have their own ambulances Etc but once
again the dominant culture in London is
that you canot say oh the Jews therefore
are taken over London it's just some
little pockets of the of the city that
they have some things going on some
hospitals they have their own sections
like rural free hospital it's one of the
main hospitals in London they have a
Jewish kind of area you know what I mean
but no one's going to say anything about
that so I think this is a fiction if
someone comes to London they will see
that this is all a fiction This Is A Lie
basically and this guy I'm surprised
that he's he has the audacity to insult
the intelligence of the American people
in this manner that's a good point you
had Elon mus also tweeting something
about how many Sharia courts Islamic
Sharia Court did you see that that are
there in the UK but nothing mentioned
about you actually have the Jewish
Sharia courts said in uh Jewish Sharia
law is that correct that's absolutely
true the same thing that they're having
they have no really uh jurist Prudence
in the law but these are just can you
expl break that down what what these
actually what what are they trying to
insinuate the Sharia qutes in in the UK
everywhere like you know they are just
basically places where you have IMS
Mas whatever word you want to use to
them who who
receive people coming in who basically
have issues with divorce marriage and
divorce and then they ask the she they
ask the the religious person what is the
Islamic opinion for example on somebody
who gives talak three times in one Magus
or one one city and then he will say
according to this school of thought it's
this thing if according to the school of
thought or something like that will
happen and then they'll offer their
opinion and then after that they can
either take that opinion or reject the
opinion there is no legal enforcement of
these laws or these verdicts there is no
legal enforcement so in other words um
the Sharia courts have no legal
Authority they are just you know mas and
given opinions and it's the freedom of
expression and freedom of religion of
people who either want to accept those
opinions or reject them and if you try
and erase or eradicate them then that is
a blow to uh freedom of expression and
uh freedom of religion you can't say you
have freedom of religion expression but
you can't have centers where people are
giving religious advice to each other
that's uh that would be that would be
considered a breach of um of freedom of
expression and religion but yeah Jewish
courts uh there's Jewish courts all over
the city as well no one's speaking about
that so you'll always find a parallel
between the Jewish community and the
Muslim Community in almost all of these
issues you'll find a parallel and so
what you have to ask because they're
very similar religions if you think
about it I mean there are many s
similarities between Orthodox Judaism
and Sunni Islam and therefore you'll
find that the practices are very similar
in some areas in some of
things so if you'll find that people
some people they'll just have one
attitude towards Muslims and a
completely opposite attitude towards
Jews and that is because they they fear
Muslims um for one reason or another or
because they have to have someone to
blame uh and Muslims for them are the
more convenient scapegoat at the moment
let's go to this next um clip here it
comes down to one word assimilation
Muslim world is they don't want to
assimilate they want to infiltrate they
want to populate and then they want to
dominate but if you want to basically
set up your own version of sharia law in
our country after fleeing a country that
has failed man I don't know what to say
um when you hear this I mean it's uh I
feel like really low IQ individual like
you know he's not he's I don't very
surprised that he's he's got confidence
to speak um about anything because the
thing is he he look what he said in the
end of what he just said there let's
let's take that right he goes they're
freeing a country that has failed
they're fleeing a country that's has
been bombed by your country that that's
what's happened the United States of
America in the case of Afghanistan in
the case of Iraq have killed over a
million people and so what happens to
those people in that country when they
go to other countries in order to seek
Safe Haven you're now blaming those
people for from fleeing so they were in
their place of residents they were in
their indigenous lands whatever you want
to call it and then you bombed them
because you wanted to take their oil you
wanted to steal their oil your
government Elites wanted to steal their
oil because your your professional
thieves uh since the Inception of the
United States of America that's what
you've been known as your professional
you've stolen Land from the
indian-americans and now want to steal
oil from the Muslims and now that you've
stolen their oil and that you've bombed
their lands and they're running away to
try and seek Safe Haven and they find
the West because they realize that you
have their stolen goods they want to
come back to a place like the West
because for all these years the colonial
Empire has been amassing okay the
resources of these countries so they go
back to these places to try and seek
Safe Haven now they're condemned once
again because they're fleeing
persecution they they're that you've
inflicted on them by the way uh so
that's the first thing it's not
necessarily failed States these are
states that have been destroyed through
War which either have Colonial Roots A
or B have direct directly been attacked
by the United States of America and NATO
and all EU countries Etc uh the second
thing I'll say is that when he says that
well he he mentions
assimilation look there's a difference
between integration and assimilation all
right so assimilation is where you
remove your um identity and it kind of
subsumes into a dominant identity in
America the word the key word that
people use policy makers ET is
assimilation in the United Kingdom is
actually integration it's not the same
because there's a different culture in
America versus England in England the UK
um the culture of integration is that
for example if you see a black man in
the United Kingdom you ask him where are
you from he will tell you I am from
Nigeria for example right he will tell
you I'm from the ebo tribe the euroba
tribe the Howa tribe he'll tell you the
exact tribe that he is from in Nigeria
you will you will not you'll be hard
pressed in fact I think it's pretty much
impossible to find somebody who is black
in the UK who will not tell you the
country of their forefathers residents
whether it's the Caribbean uh Dominica
Jamaica St Lucia wherever it may be or
whether it's in West Africa or East
Africa they tell you exactly where
they're from and tell you the tribes
that they're in as well that they belong
to so they will maintain their cultural
identity they'll they'll maintain their
you know their lineage if you want their
all of that kind of thing at the same
time they'll tell you yeah we're British
as well they will mix those two things
together so they'll call themselves for
example um you know British Jamaican or
British Nigerian they'll con connect it
like that in the United States it's
different so for example if you see a
black man and you say where are you from
he's going to say Brooklyn he's going to
say he's going to tell you what city is
from and you ask him no where are you
originally from he may even take offense
to that question because all he knows is
that he's African American that's all he
knows he's African-American so he's
assimilated into American culture in a
way that the black man in England has
not assimilated into UK cult it's a
completely different
Dynamic so you people need to understand
that there's a difference in culture
between the United Kingdom Western
Europe in general and the United States
on this issue for simulation versus
integration and therefore I mean when
you find the Muslim communities yes they
will tell you I am from Pakistan I am
from Bangladesh I whatever and I am
Muslim and I am British I I've you know
I'm from London so that the way they see
identity is different to the way many
others will see identity in the United
States maybe even in Canada maybe in
other places of the world as well so so
once again it requires Cultural Literacy
which I I think this man does not have
but I'm trying to be I'm trying to
scaffold everything for him so he
understands they're using these uh these
really trigger words you know that they
want to um they don't want to assimilate
they want to infiltrate populate
dominate I mean if you um if you want to
use the same argument and come back
because you have a lot of America
first um politicians unfortunately not
too many but people I think it was Jim
Macy who says that every politician has
a APAC Handler Handler everybody but me
has an apack person what do that mean an
APAC person it's like your babysitter
your apack babysitter who uh is always
talking to you for APAC uh if you come
at it and you look at who's really
infiltrated um you know the the US I
mean it's not Muslims uh and these are a
lot of American a lot of lot of people
you know Tucker Carlson and and the like
people are exposed a lot of this and
it's not like you have Muslim I cannot
remember ever sitting around and
listening to a Muslim say how we going
to get in here at the UK the America to
infiltrate I mean uh very it doesn't
happen like that you're absolutely right
there's a book by John mimer called the
Israel Lobby where it goes into detail
about how the lobbyists and the zionists
have have infiltrated the communities in
the United States of America in a
completely disproportionate way in
almost every sector in Industry so if
you want to infiltration I think with
with with the Zionist project is pretty
clear and calculated actually to a point
where it's almost quite frankly
impressive quite frankly
disproportionately impressive how
they've been able to manipulate the
Zionist how they have been able to
manipulate politicians how they've been
able to manipulate economies how they've
been able to infiltrate uh all of these
things and it's clearly ever since the
beginning of the Zionist movement where
CH chame wisman was sending letters to
Arthur balur
in the um beginning of the 20th century
in the
1900s and they were going back and forth
and these letters are in the public
archive there's there has been an
orchestrated and a concerted effort to
try and create um a difference in public
opinion a difference in policy a
difference in economy a difference in
these kinds of things so I think that
you know if someone looks at the history
someone looks at the history of Zionism
then there's no question that what he is
describing
best fits Zionism it does not best fit
100% you know Islam which is clearly
people coming from war torn countries
people coming from countries after World
War II being invited to come from the
dominant the host nation so they can fix
their country people mostly in the UK
for example they workingclass people
they they're not even thinking about
these things quite frankly go and ask
people in Birmingham and Bradford the
average Muslim man or woman uh have you
ever considered you know infiltrating
and dominating
you know this that and the other that's
not even on they haven't even thought
about that that's not something they
think about that's the truth of the
matter whereas the zionists in the in
the is as you mentioned the Israel Lobby
Etc they do think about these things and
they calculate in exact ways how to try
and manipulate people for their
strategic and political
objectives let's go to the next clip
over here you got all these guys social
media influencers the younger guys that
on uh uh Twitter on X on YouTube that
they're talking about
Islam and Muslim and they're getting
into the heads of a lot of these younger
guys are say man maybe that's the way to
go maybe that's the way to go and then
some of the stuff that you hear about
the way they look at kids underage well
you know because of this you know it's
Justified if somebody this the other day
one guy said well if you show too much
of skin and you get you know this quote
every accusation is a
confession uh so it seems like who keeps
talking about this the young girls and
they keep bringing up what they're going
to bring up with you right now I mean I
don't see the any Imam or any she or
lectures on this um but we we discussed
this what we're going to be going a
little bit deeper in why because it's
putting things in context uh it's
refuting the lies the distortions the
deliberate attacks against the last and
final messenger sent to Mankind pro
Muhammad peace and blessings be upon
refuting the lies there's no muslim
talking about marrying his uh his young
daughter at the a at that age today or
whatnot but they keep discussing this
and you see the numbers of people who
have the most mestation the abuse of
women coming from that demographic on
that side uh what are your thoughts well
let's start with that actually let me
read out something that um is is going
to I think interest your viewers quite a
lot right so this is
um this is from I'll tell you the exact
source so that you can see it is from
equality now.org right now this is what
it says I'm going to read it out okay it
says child marriage occurs when one or
both of the parties to the marriage are
below the age of 18 child marriage is
currently legal in 37 States okay and 20
US states do not require any minimum age
for marriage with a parental or judicial
waiver and then it continues it says
nearly
300,000 children were married in the US
between 201
2018 uh the vast majority of our girls
to adult men many much older now the
thing is if if you look at what's
happened in recently with the grooming
situation the way they've described and
framed the situation
okay is that you know you have these
Muslim men these Asian men going for the
young young girls it's legal in in in 37
states to do that it's legal why are you
even talking about this
300,000 if you consider that to be pilia
300,000 you if you consider that to be
and this is not you know we're talking
about 1880s on the screen right we're
not talking about 1880 CU someone say
that's historical right and the age of
marriage was seven years old in Delaware
in you know 1880 Etc I'm talking about
2025 I'm talking about today and so if
if this is if you consider this to be a
problem my my point is why are you
pointing fingers at 1,000 white girls
that have been groomed in the United
Kingdom in Northern towns not even in
the major cities by the way except for
potentially greater Manchester this is
where the issue is with app with with
quotequote Asian Gro gangs according to
the J report the Casey report the
greater Manchester report etc
etc but why don't you look about what
going on in the United States of America
if you consider this to be a problem if
you consider this to be pedophilia all
right
300,000 I would even wager that if you
compare that with Muslim countries you
will not find that so in on what basis
okay on what basis are you making an
inquiry if it's about okay well you got
grooming going on or couldn't someone
argue quite easily that this is
grooming I mean at what point is it
grooming and what point is it not
grooming when you have people that are
you know of a certain age and much older
what's what's grooming what how do you
define grooming so all of these
questions here are coming to the four
but the main thing is as you mentioned
every accusation is a confession and the
more we look at these numbers and stats
the more we realize that actually the
the issues that they need to be looking
at are uh in their back Garden not uh in
some some town in the United unit
Kingdom in Rochdale or tord or Ru you
you see the point that I'm talking about
we wouldn't even be talking about this
it's not like you know there's certain
things that that now Jihad for example
is to struggle and strive you know they
keep bringing it up we must Crush Jad um
this whole issue that we're discussing
right now we don't sit around a dinner
table disc we're we're we don't sit
we're not talking about these things
unless we're refuting it putting it in
context uh clearing up the lies and I
want to play this next video here and
usually when this is brought up I'm like
do you have a do you have any comment on
this even Rebecca was only 3 years old
when she got married a three-year-old
then was equal to who knows probably
20-year- old today again you bring this
up and everybody goes Hush Hush nobody
will put this uh this religious group
under a microscope uh look at their
faith we're like let's talk about let's
talk about Islam let's put things in
context but I don't think if someone
came you have a daughter who's 910 who
wants to marry her right now I mean you
probably want to knock the guy out I
mean I I I don't think there's any
Muslim who be like okay go ahead I mean
so why is this Del this keeps coming up
it's like this is the low it's like a
low blow and it just keeps coming up so
now we got to we're going to go go into
it we'll go into it deeper but what is
this like they can't challenge Islam
intellectually on on the the the most
important fundamental uh belief of Islam
that pure
monotheism Bel only work
exactly that's right I I think that's
basically it's a red herring the whole
thing is a red herring this questions
here um as as red herrings and then they
mention the prophet's marriage to AA
especially and for them that's the
that's the main argument and it's not
even an argument because what it is is
an insult because they've understood it
and this we've discussed before the the
fallacies of anachronism and presentism
and stuff like that applying modern
standards on Ancient societies etc etc
um but they've done that and so what
what they're doing is not actually
they're not interested from what I've
seen because I've been engaging with
them they're not interested in honest
academic discussion they're interested
in insult okay so now it's become an
insult so I've gotten to the bottom of
this because I started asking a question
and the question I started asking I said
no problem you know you have different
rules of Ages of consent because I said
something which will probably come up
here in the next um in the next uh you
know thing that we're going to be
looking
at speaking to sneo and what I said to
him was that the pedophilia okay it's
relative that's what I said to him and
what I mean by that is that it's legally
relative so in one place for example is
14 years old as the age of consent in
the other place is 16 years old is the
age of consent and another places 12
years old as the age of concern in
Western countries in Germany in Italy in
Spain in seven EU countries it's 14
years old as the age of consent in the
UK it's 16 years old as the age of
consent so it's relative based on the
country that you're in there's there's
no question that's objectively the case
and I double down on this I say to you
now that it's absolutely relative based
on what country what time what Society
etc etc so I asked the public in some of
my ex- tweets and I I asked some of
these right-wing people and in fact some
academics have been responding a few
even um one Cambridge academic responded
and he couldn't answer this question
it's a simple question okay and I
challenged everyone with it what is an
adult you know Matt Welsh recently made
this thing called what is a woman yeah
and it became very popular because they
said a woman is this and okay and these
guys are the leftwing were not able to
answer that question etc etc and he was
trying to make a whole point out of it
I'm making a very similar I'm asking a
very posing a very similar question
which is what is an adult give me an
objective scientific Criterion for what
is considered to be an adult now you
can't say well an adult is someone who
is under the age of 18 because as if
when you're 17 years old and 364 days
and then you wake up on the 365 fth day
and you look at yourself and you become
something completely different
physiologically and scientifically it's
not the case so what is it it as a
scientific measure that makes you an
adult and this qu this simple question
what is an adult which they have not
been able to answer I think is the thorn
in their side so I've realized that this
one simple question is the thorn in
their side what instead of engaging with
them and trying to justify and say it
was a different time and a different
place and the age of De in Delaware was
seven years old and this and that
instead of going through all of that my
strategy with dealing with these insults
now is to just simply ask okay you
talking about pedophilia pedophilia is
contingent on the definition of
adulthood that's what it's contingent on
because you have to be able to
differentiate between a child and adult
okay so if the definition of pedophilia
is contingent on the definition of
adulthood in order for us to understand
what pedophilia is on an objective and
scientific level then let's ask the
question of what is an adult when you
then ask them you'll start seeing either
they'll say oh scientifically is this
it's capability it's maturity it's when
they start using these words they
realize there's not actually one fixed
age and that's why Societies in
different times in different places
different countries and even now ages of
consent are different because that is a
subjective to a high high degree is a
subjective value judgment based on what
physiologist would say based on what
psychologist would say based on what
there are some things which are not uh
highly subjective for example a
three-year-old we just saw what the guy
was talking about that that's not
subjective you can see that there's no
argument to be made for any kind of
development there okay you cannot make
the argument a newborn or a
three-year-old is we don't agree with
that obviously this is
we're talking about the area which is
gray area which we are talking about
there's a there is a whole gray area
that societies have differed on for
thousands of years and countries differ
on
now but but they they should be actually
because now I mean here if you look at
the arguments putting things in context
no nobody's trying to change any age of
consent I'm sure right now if you take a
woman if take a woman from that time you
know and try to uh equate her to a a
woman of this time you got two different
1,400 years ago I mean it's a different
standard of living different
U different um expectations of how long
a person is going to live Etc you got so
many things into the equation yeah and
we'll go a little bit deeper but my
point here is why are they not Muhammad
why are they not going after the person
who's making it really clear on
three-year-old why why are they not
putting this way of life under the
microscope it's because there's a
political ambition that they have try
Stamp Out Islam and Muslims because they
are threatened by Islam and Muslims and
so they have to attack us they have to
insult us they when they mention the age
of AA interrogation they're not doing so
because they have a genuine intellectual
concern they are doing so because they
are trying to insult us it's a simple as
that they're trying to insult us they're
trying to you know make us into
backwards people etc etc and that's how
I see it and that's why they're not
mentioning like you mentioned this guy
here the rabbi coming out and talking
about three-year-old which there's no
difference of opinion among anybody that
that's not a that cannot be an adult he
said a three-year-old is like a
20-year-old it's not I don't see how a
three-year-old can be at any any in any
metric that's not the case but they're
Hush Hush when it comes to this they
dare not speak out they they they dare
not insult exactly exactly and like you
said we're not trying to change the age
of consent in any country and I think we
should always Preamble what we're saying
with that if anyone asks me a question
about this I'll say listen I'm pream
everything by saying just to be clear
I'm not arguing for a change of the age
of consent in the UK the us or any other
other place I actually agree that there
should be an age of consent because
there's all kinds of abuses happening to
people and stuff like that before and I
think an AG of consent is probably a
good thing to try and stop those abuses
yes in Saudi in Saudi I think it's uh
what is it 18 inq it's 17 in Afghanistan
I think it's 16 yeah yeah and some
Muslim countries have it as 21 by the
way which is surprising because they
have a even higher age of consent than
the Western countries but you just you
just said earlier present day on the
books actually in America it's at it's
at what age it's at lower ages in the
Muslim country Texas it says that for
example that you can get married under
the age of 16 There's A legislature that
says you can get married so it's higher
in the predominantly Muslim
countries yes definitely the age of
consent is higher objectively in the
predominantly Muslim countries than it
is in Western countries Germany consent
in Germany today is 14 years old which
means that if if I go to Germany and
have intercourse with a woman according
to German law I'm not a pedophile but
according to British law you're a
pedophile in one place you you're on a
Sex Register in another place you're not
doing anything wrong okay Germany though
it's it's Italy Germany SP seven
countries in the EU they if they cannot
see then they're low IQ this is how I
put it you are low IQ if you cannot see
this if you cannot see that it's
different in this country pedophilia is
understood differently in Germany one
hour flight you can get from Germany to
United Kingdom if you cannot see it's
different from Germany to United Kingdom
then you are low IQ that's what it means
that that is legally relative I stick by
what I said it is legally relative
according not just to Muslim majority
countries put the Muslims to the side
put those brown people to the side no
problem you know these backward people
and these bad people no problem put them
to the side no issues at all I'm saying
that if you go to Germany if you go if
you hop on a plane one hour flight
Germany then you hop onto the plane and
you go to Spain you go to Italy this and
that and then you go to United Kingdom
the situation is different what is
considered pedophilia it is different in
those countries what you what is the
English word that you would use to
describe such difference relative
therefore pedophilia is relative
according to what country you are in in
the west it's relative in Western lands
in Western countries nation states and
legislators
programs that's what it
is and again just to reiterate this
point we are talking about this because
they keep bringing it up and this is
defending the honor of the last and
final messenger sent to
mankind who they are trying to judge
according to
presentism and isn't it if he was going
to be charged they would have charged
him at his time and it's interesting
that you don't have any even of the
islamophobes from 100 years ago trying
to attack him with these arguments is
that right absolutely right yeah
absolutely they wouldn't attack it it's
not even anywhere in the world you only
find that these
discussions uh I think the the the first
person to ever come out against the
prophet and speak about is probably
marolia one of the orientalists who came
out in the late 18 to 19 uh early 1900s
in fact not see as aberrational in the
United Kingdom or in the west generally
speaking cuz you'd have to condemn all
the founding fathers of America wouldn't
you you'd have to condemn essentially uh
everyone I mean before the 1900s because
the thing is everything changed after
World War I if you look at for example
there was something called The Marriage
Act in the United Kingdom by the way the
United Kingdom was one of the first
countries to change the age of consent
from 12 as as it was at the time to 16
and there was something called The
Marriage Act okay and The Marriage Act
took place after World War I Marriage
Act was basically said that the age of
consent will move from 12 to 16 and it
corresponded with education okay because
now people had compulsory education up
until 16 years old so what then happened
is it became a social construct that
some the education of a person is
connected to their being an adult or not
before there was no such connection
between whether you finish education
before or not whether you'll be
considered to be an adult or not now
what you for you to finish education
you're considered to be an adult if you
have not finished education you're still
a child but that that kind of metric of
seeing whether someone is capable of
being in a marital situation reproducing
etc etc was never the case anywhere in
history before so this is a new it's a
social construct the the the new um if
you like if the new um definitions of
what it means to be an adult are social
constructs of the 19 of the 20th century
that's what they are they're social
constructs you can't use a social
construct of the 20th century which was
uh actually put in place by feminists
and what I find very interesting is a
lot of these far right anti-feminist
people are still using this were put in
place in feminist because it was the
first wave feminists who protested the
government to change the age of consent
from 12 to 16 and you can see this in
the Hansard records and other places you
can't use a social construct of the 20th
century to go and attack people of the
past about why they married at this age
or that age or another it's not an
objective measure and so when you start
speaking to them about facts they don't
really have an a question an answer to
the questions but as I mentioned the
best thing to do when when anybody comes
this is my from my practice anyone comes
and ask you about the age of instead of
answering this question ask them one
question say fine I'll answer you
everything you want to answer no problem
just one question what is an adult give
me an objective and scientific measure
when when they then you'll see them
going from Pillar To Post because
there's no one answer for this whatever
answer you give you say it's
unsatisfactory you can just simply say
your answer is unsatisfactory because
what about this and what about this can
you not see how this can be subjective
can you not see how in one culture they
can consider it this way and other
country when they start realizing that
the idea of an adult is to a large
degree socially constructed to a like
when they understand that then they can
grant concession but until they cross
that barrier and break that down in
their minds they can never uh give
concession to people that lived 1,400
years ago they cannot see in
head okay let's go on to the the next
part of the podcast where you actually
get brought up uh this is Muhammad haib
I believe he what's he saying they're
defending he's defending Muhammad is uh
sex with children and calls pedophilia
relative at all we think that it's just
because we have a different idea of what
it means to be a child which can be
tracked historically on in these
countries where we live in now one is
legal and one is both are one is illegal
is this guy trying to justify having
sexy is this what he's trying to do
right now Adam you have to listen to the
end he's not finished once again
pedophilia is very relative very
relative and so what are you trying to
do mam you trying to change hold on so
is it not is pedophilia is legally
relative as a matter of fact that's not
my opinion that is a matter of fact as I
mentioned if you go to Germany the age
of consent is 14 years old if you go to
the United Kingdom the age of consent is
16 years old if you go to the United
States in some places the age of consent
is 18 years old in some other places in
the EU it's go back to 14 in Italy in
Spain Etc there seven European countries
EU countries which the age of consent is
14 I actually mentioned the age 14 if
they had a real problem with it I don't
see them protesting against the German
laws I don't see them protesting against
the Spanish laws I don't see them
protesting against Italian laws the
point I'm saying is this is that it's
relative by virtue of fact and it's not
my opinion that is a fact if you're in
England and you have intercourse with a
13-year-old you ped or 14-year-old your
pedophile and if you go to uh America
and you have intercourse with the same
age then you're not a pedophile so it's
relative based on the arbitrary measures
of uh policy makers in different parts
of the world that's that is a matter of
fact if they want to reprimand they have
to now come with an argument against so
is he trying to justify sex with
children children that's the whole
question that's the inquiry what is a
child that is the qu the question he's
poisoning the well he is begging the
question which is a fallacy it's called
begging the question fallacy I'm not
saying that they're children I don't
believe in having sex with children no I
don't believe in that I've never said
that once in my entire life you never
said that once let's make that clear of
course I've never said that once and I
think the low
IQ uh hot noodle eating you know uh
weirdo that was sitting there that maybe
he was sorry to say watching something
maybe that he shouldn't had been
watching before you know eating his pot
noodles eating his Crispy Cream watching
what he shouldn't have been watching and
his mother's
sell uh had the audacity to speak in
that manner and try and inquire in that
way without humbling himself and asking
questions and being a real man which he
cannot be and he is not yeah and the
other ones there sitting like sitting
ducks low IQ they don't realize that
actually there was nothing in the speech
of this man that suggested what this man
is suggesting I'm saying if he was in
the United Kingdom I would sue him for
defamation of character now the reason
why I'm not doing that because in the
United States is much more difficult to
do that and it's much more costly and
he's not that significant anyway this
individual who look like he was a shoe
Shiner for Patrick Bet Davis maybe he
was shining some some shoes and stuff
like that and cleaning in the toilets
and then they said just come in for a
second we've run out of guests today
come just say just sit here and just
fiddle with the computer make s useful
and give us some coffees and teas as
well and some crispy creams and you know
how to make the pot noodles might as
well make that one as well so this guy
who is a nobody who's you know trying to
challenge me and and pet D bet Davis we
spoke to bet Davis me and you and we
spoke you know we had a good
conversation never disrespected the man
myself uh I've only hold him held him to
account in the proper uh and meaningful
way where he has you know over crossed
the boundaries should have had the
integrity the intellectual Integrity to
stop this uh this Chum from from saying
the stuff that he was saying but he
didn't have that and we don't expect
that from
them let's go on to um couple more Clips
let's go to the next one hey guys and
let's just go back because Jesus Christ
you know what I'm saying we're
Christians and and you you have to say
what it is Jesus Christ spread love
spread peace spread all that type of
stuff uh was he a virgin Tom Jesus
Christ yes okay he treated women great
if we're going to go according to many
Islamic historical sources including the
Hadith collections of the sah alkari and
sah Muslim the prophet Muhammad was
betrothed to Asia when she was 6 years
old and the marriage was consummated
when she was 9 years old I'm just
throwing out facts this guy's name is
Muhammad that's what he's basically
preaching is that this is that type of
uh mindset I mean we've read this and
we've seen this right all right he
brought up uh Jesus he started off with
uh Jesus um we we can have a lot to say
here what you here the first thing I
will say is that they believe that Jesus
is the author of the Old Testament
because he's part of the Trinity because
don't forget they believe that the
Father the Son the Holy Spirit are one
God and therefore it would follow that
he's the author of the Old Testament and
it would also follow therefore that when
Jesus uh the part of the Trinity
mentioned the person of the Trinity
mentioned in Numbers Chapter 31:18 that
take the young ones for yourself and
almost all
rabbinic commentators said that young
ones means prepubescence actually there
is no such equivalent verse in the Quran
there's no such equivalent Hadith in the
prophet's sayings there is nothing in
Islam that says you can take the young
ones the prepubescence for yourself so
according to them Jesus Christ okay he
ordered people to essentially and some
commentaries actually say them sexually
assault them without their will to sorry
to say so if you're saying you 1,00% a
disagree with it then can you please
come online and tell us that you 1,00%
disagree with the Bible and 1,00%
disagree with Jesus Christ and 1,00%
disagree with numbers Chap
31:18 and 1,00% disagree with the
injunctions given
therein I can 1,000% guarantee that this
chump will not do that because he um
does not have the intellectual prowess
or the uh the Integrity he's not
integrous enough to be able to face his
own contradictions and in fact his
argument has collapsed under the weight
of the internal contradictions therein
so I would say to you that the first
thing if you wanted to mention Jesus is
to mention what I've just mentioned and
especially this verse of Numbers Chapter
3118 you can look go and look into there
there is a website called safam uh.com
which shows you all of the the
commentaries of the Old Testament
especially the the Rabin commentaries
using the Hebrew language a four time
about this the talmudic commentaries the
Babylonian talmud the Palestinian talmud
uh about this particular verse and it's
pretty clear and even some translations
into English talk about young girls it's
pretty clear if you look at the sources
this is talking about the prepubescent
ones so the right-wing people and this
man and other people that want to accuse
the prophet Muhammad wasallam of such
and such and this and that you have to
first deal with this inquiry before you
start speaking about Islam and then now
we've already addressed this but then
I'll address it again he started
mentioning about AA you know at the age
of nine etc etc and the response to this
is as follows as we both mentioned and
quite rightly so me and you and the rest
of the Muslim people and majority of the
populations especially in the west do
not condone or are asking for a change
in the age of consent whether in the UK
in the US in the EU or even in the
Muslim countries we we have no such
desire there's not there's not been one
protest movement one lobby Group by the
way there was a I'm not sure if you know
this in the UK there was in fact a an
organization called piie which is linked
to the labor party which is the party
that is in charge now of government that
was offici
politically lobbying for the reduction
of the age of consent yeah so the only
people that actually have that history
are the very people that are in power in
these countries we don't have uh such a
wish or desire to change the age of
consent H having said that when we make
the apologia for example for the or the
argument the pical argument that's what
we're doing we're making a historical
argument for the age of AA at year old
and by the way if we really wanted to
say this we could that someone could say
is it possible the question is to be a
Muslim and believe in the revisionist
account of her being 18 for example it's
possible it's not an Article of Faith
there is no Tech fear or excommunication
issued therein is believing that AA
being the age of nine years old an
article of Islamic faith is it one of
the five pillars of im or one of the
five pillars of Islam No it's not so
someone conceivably be a Muslim and not
even believe in that anyway but putting
that to the side I will say this I do
believe in a historical account of 9
years old and I personally believe it
goes back to Social and societal Norms I
personally believe it's to do with how
people defined adulthood at that time
comparative to how we can we in most of
the world Define it in our time due to
society and someone will say and this is
the counterargument well didn't you say
that your Prophet was a prophet for all
humankind so how comes he's he's doing
this and we you're saying we shouldn't
do it the answer is the same Prophet
that told us this also told us that
Society changes and he told us all of
the rules he told us all of the rules of
how to deal with a changing Society for
example the the principle of harm the
principle of necessity in
Islam these are all hadiths of the
Prophet that you cannot harm or
reciprocate harm and I would posture and
wager that what you do with a 13 or 14
or 12 whatever it is you're old a
thousand years ago where they had a
completely different upbringing and a
completely different social structure
is completely different to what you do
with them here where they are
mollycoddled and got sent to school
every day and they have a completely
different lived experience and therefore
I would say yes pedophilia it is
relative to one's definition of
adulthood by historical fact by current
legalistic reality and therefore you
don't have a right I would say to accuse
our Prophet Muhammad s Ali wasallam of
such a helious crime without taking into
account those relativistic differences
and cultural difference sociological
differences that's how I would
say you mentioned Jesus peace be upon
him who we love and rever is one of the
mightiest Messengers sent at his for his
people at his time and now if you make
that argument that now because he
started off as he's um he's love he's
peace and so if he's one in three in a
trinity he's God so he's putting giving
these orders which you quoted numbers
you know take the little ones for
yourselves exactly wouldn't he also be
the one that dictated that Mary that she
be 12 when she gave birth to Jesus yes
exactly and the there are many many
reports that indicate that age and just
as as there are many many reports that
indicate Rebecca with three year years
old and you'll find that all over the
Jewish sources but these are things that
they'll just handwave off they don't
care about any of that stuff because
remember now Christianity has become a
thing which you can just pick and choose
from so people metaphorize that which
they don't want all those genocides that
I mentioned in the Old Testament all
those things they don't like they just
metaphorize it they just all those
scientific inaccuracies that bogus
claims of the creation of the universe
seven day rest anything they don't like
they'll just metaphorize as a metaphor
and so for them the situation they'll
just hand wer off but one thing that
this guy said which I think is also
worthy of mentioning is that he
connected this Hadith of the Prophet
mammad wasallam with the behavior of the
groomers in the UK now in so sociology
okay you need to be able to prove
causation if you want to make a
causative case a cause is something when
you say a is the reason for B it's the
reason a correlation is different you
could say for example okay that it's
getting hot uh in July but at the same
time pumpkin s pumpkin sales are going
going higher there's no correlation
there's no causation there's a
correlation but there's no causation but
if it's Halloween time and it's October
then you can make a causative case they
say people are buying pumpkins because
of Halloween now if you're making a
causative case between the religion of
Islam on the one hand and The Grooming
that took place on the other then what
you need as a sociologist as a proper
academic is you need to make a causative
argument to show the link between a and
b and in this case what would be
sufficient or at least something to
speak about is a testimony from these
groomers themselves saying we were
inspired by theith we don't believe it's
Haram we don't believe it's wrong to
take these white girls and to do this
how comes from all of the reports that
I've read and all of the police reports
and the people that I've challenged in
the last two weeks not one of them has
been able to show one single report in
the United Kingdom of someone citing
religious reasons religious reasons for
the reasons why they've done that
whether obviously if they're non-muslim
but if they are Muslim if they are Asian
we don't find one single report of an
individual saying I have been inspired
incentivized or otherwise motivated by
my religion the challenge therefore
would be produce one Rapport surely you
should of all these cases that took
place in Telford in rotheram in Rochdale
and there was over a thousand white
girls that were uh badly badly abused by
these horrible horrendous horrific
monstrous condemnable abominable
individuals not one of those individuals
has been able to come with a single
report saying that the reason why I did
this was because of my religion how
comes the fact that you have not been
able to produce one report like that
means you are disqualified from being
able to make a causative case the like
of which you have tried to make and
that's why there's no Bonafide academic
that makes by the way theive case not
one b B ified sociologists in
peer-review journal journals that make
the causative case because it's too
difficult to make they know that and in
almost all the reports that have been
written by the CSA and the home office
and the Cobain report and this and the
book that she wrote in 2018 El Cain in
2018 none of that links The Grooming
Asian grooming gangs Etc to the religion
of Islam so this man is academically
inept he is incapable of reaching that
level of of inquiry he's incapable of
making the case he's creating a problem
out of nothing and as I've mentioned if
his issue is of that of men who are over
a certain
age being in sexual relationships with
women that are uh under the age of 18 or
even the under under the age of 16 then
you've got 300,000 cases according to
statistics from the from the year 2008
in 20 2018 in the United States of
America itself which by the way as we
mentioned the majority of the states
don't even have a age of consent or they
have an age of consent which is below
the age of 18 okay what you have to
worry about why are you worrying about
what's happening in tord and rdale and
RAM in these towns by the way if you've
been they're not even cities in the UK
where disenfranchised and poor people
are doing all kinds of mad stuff yeah if
you meet these people you're got to tell
me they're religious they're not
religious people these guys are Thugs
and they were they were giving alcohol
and feeding giving alcohol and giving
drugs to the girls and stuff like whys
alcohol and drugs now become part of the
Islamic package I don't think so so I I
think that the fact that they're making
this case is is pathetic and it's
embarrassing and it's something which uh
they're only doing because they their
prophet and their true God okay Elon
Musk decided because of his H1B Visa
situation to say such and such a thing
but there will be something coming out
about Elon Musk which will shock the
public which I will be publishing on
Thursday which will shock the public
it's it's the most scandalous thing and
I'm keeping it with me it will
completely shock the British public it
will come out in two days it will shock
the entire public about Elon Musk and I
have the information and no one else has
the information that I have and I'll be
producing this information in in two
days and people will be shocked to know
what happened couple more things I want
to ask you about so during the time of
the last and final messenger prop
Muhammad peace and blessing be upon him
was there any law that he was breaking
was there any religious code tradition
anyone or anything from his enemies that
brought this attack up against him at
that time exactly that's a very good
question because there wasn't there
wasn't a single person how look for
examp let me give you an example right
you've asked a very pertinent and
poignant question and the reason why is
because we have even books that have
been made or have written by for example
Salon rushy called The Satanic Verses
okay and Satanic Verses if you know the
story of it is basically Al They accuse
the prophet of conceding on issues to do
withed they accuse him of conceding on
issues to do withed okay and they base
it on a particular Hadith and the Hadith
is you know is is in these collections
of Hadith and most of the scholars have
made of them and said they're weak
Hadith anyway no problem the point is we
have hadiths like that okay in our
collections we have almost we've got
more a million hadiths so we know
exactly what the enemies of Islam are
saying we know what the Muslims are
saying we know what's going on in that
time where the Prophet muhammmad
wasallam is saying what he's saying and
by the way the Quran gives you an
indication of the main interrogations
and insults and attacks of the Prophet
Muhammad that they say he
is they say he is they say he is a is an
insane man they say that he is a poet in
fact they say this and they say that
never once in the Quran or in one single
Hadith from the compendious and
voluminous collection of Hadith that we
have of over a million hadiths do we
find a single adversary of the Prophet
saying well this man's a pedophile they
didn't even have such a word to describe
people because it wasn't something it
was it was welldeveloped didn't even
have that as a slur back then or that
he's marrying the young ones or he's
marrying someone that's too young and
he's she she's being abused etc etc in
fact the AA herself she never once
complained of anything you know in fact
she showed severe jealousy in her uh
love to the prophet compar to the other
wiv this is not the behavior of somebody
who's being abused and and somebody
who's trapped in a relationship they
don't want to be in this is the this is
the behavior of somebody who wants to be
in this relationship and in fact
probably desires exclusivity in the
relationship because obviously it was a
poist relationship but the point I'm
making is that there is nothing of a
psychological nature of a historical
nature that indicates that there was
abuse going on in that relationship
quite to the contrary in fact it shows
that there was a deep love relationship
and or that she was trapped in the
relationship and that she didn't want to
be in etc etc and or that one of the
adversaries of the Prophet Muhammad
wasallam was in fact um you know
attacking him for marrying her to the
contrary in fact that was not the
case I want to just show you this real
uh this clip that is kind of relevant to
what we're talking about we're talking
about consent and age and whatnot and
here you have a rabbi Zionist Rabbi
who's on the pbd podcast and Patrick B
David he's a Christian but you don't you
know sadly see him coming from an from
from an angle talking about how we
should ban porn you know how we should
be against it uh his main concern is
this this is risque let's not put this
one up and let's not approve it that
still makes pornhop the god of deciding
if this video was shot at a time where a
person was above age or under age while
the video is being shot there needs to
be someone saying before we do the scene
this is what it is I am at this age
we're shooting it at this age what are
your what are your what are your
comments on that I mean so this is a
longer episode but back and forth he's
really just focusing on just as long as
the person's 18 it's fine otherwise it's
not fine this is talking thing is I
think bet Davis you're coming to us
about morality but at the end of the day
yeah P David is that's what he is he's a
crash capitalist that he doesn't have um
I don't if something is you know
consensual or if something is you know
not breaking the laws I think his Pro
his stance is likely to be that it
should be permitted and that there
should be no censorship etc etc but
therein lies the issue because actually
this shows you that they don't actually
take their religion very seriously if
you consider yourself to be a Christian
um you should be actually advocating
against the things like this but the the
fact that you are incapable of speaking
about pornography in any derogatory way
or a strong way or uh or want to see
that it's no longer a society or want
there to be government action taking
against that thing shows you the extent
to which you're actually willing to
advocate for your religion on policy
policy issues and this is the reason why
Islam is strong and this is the reason
why a Christianity looks weak because
it's impotent it doesn't have solutions
for society is it's just a theoretical
exercise it doesn't have anything to say
about governance it doesn't have
anything to say about what should be
allowed and not allowed etc etc but you
know it is what it is and he can have
his opinion and to be honest with you I
don't really care too much about him in
that sense you know he can say what he
he wants but I'd invite him to Islam
openly I think me and you have done so I
think he would open to Islam because the
thing is Islam is a very pure and easy
religion one God to believe in one God
not the Trinity not Jesus Christ being
the Son of God or God himself not the
the Holy Ghost being uh God himself or
the Son of God it's a very beautiful and
easy religion it it allows you to take
the role as a man your role as a man as
a protector in society it allows women
to take their role roles as women it
advocates for family rights for family
values advocates for the for cohesion
and Society for Collective Spirit that's
what Islam really is and if I think they
should start by with the basics they
should start with just understanding
Islam through the basics instead of this
adversarial and this hostile approach to
Islam they should start from the basics
we want to know what the Five Pillars
are we want to know what the six pillars
of Ean and Faith are we want to know a
bit more about the prophet let's read
his life objectively and sincerely
instead of trying to cast aspersion on
his character and try and attack him and
all the let's look at this man's life
because what whether you like it or not
let's be honest I mean Patrick or
anybody else you attack the prophet
Muhammad s Al wasallam you say what you
are saying about him but there's one
thing you have to speak about him which
which shows you his influence he's even
from an atheist perspective you cannot
deny the prophet Muhammad Sall alaihi
wasallam you can if if you're an atheist
and you're a secularist you cannot deny
him you can say what you like but you
one thing you can't do is deny him you
cannot deny him soop politically you
cannot deny him militarily you cannot
deny his influence you can the fact that
you're speaking about him is a testament
about his greatness because the you're
not going to be spoken about 1,400 years
to this to this point your kids are not
going to be spoken about that way
there's not one person on this planet
that is likely to be spoken about and to
be discussed and to be uh uh analyzed in
the way the prophet mammad wasallam is
spoken about 1,400 years from now in the
year 3 imagine that in the year
3,400 you think you're going to be
spoken about in the year 3,400 00 you
think people are still going to remember
you you think people the ones who
attacked the prophet you think you're
going to be spoken about the year 3,400
that your kids your kids probably will
not even remember you your grandkid
probably won't even know who you are
your great grandkids but who who is my
great- granddad don't even know his name
full name oh he was a billionaire he was
this he was that we don't care what is
he what has he done he's written a
couple of books here and there whatever
how much has he left me in inheritance
compare that with the legacy of the
Prophet Muhammad wasallam compare that
with the legacy of a man who's still
being mentioned the fact that in the
Quran it
says that we have raised your mention
the Quran mentions that that when they
mention the prophet Muhammad wasam even
when they're attacking him they're
affirming the miraculous nature of that
verse of the Quran the fact that Subhan
Allah when they attack the prophet they
affirmed the Quran by doing so because
they they're doing they're increasing
the remembrance and The Mention Of The
Prophet Muhammad sallam because that
verse means that we have made your you
mentioned a lot you're mentioned a lot
so it could be mentioned for good it
could be mentioned for bad could the
fact that he's mentioned a lot the
prophet mhammad wasallam now I was I
went on a website Pantheon and stuff and
this AI they use AI to see the top 10
most influential people based on their
mentions online in different languages
Muhammad s wasallam is always number one
and this is not the Michael har thing
100 most influential people know this is
a different thing now using AI current
day this is what this is the reality of
the Prophet M you can say what you want
he was militarily successful he was soop
politically successful he was
religiously successful he expanded in a
way that nobody could expand before him
or and will do after him because he
expanded politically socially
religiously in all these ways you can
say what you want about Prophet but you
cannot deny him and you must bow your
head to uh the fact that sorry to say
you're you're never going to reach his
level or none of none of the people that
are alive Trump musk any of these people
will reach even a 1% of 1% of 1% of his
level and that's not me saying it as a
religious from a confessional
perspective that's reality that's
objective fact live with that fact
that's the prophet Muhammad that's the
man that we follow not some social media
person who's got 15 minutes of fame or
some billionaire who's going to lose his
money when he dies or some guy who's
this that no we follow that guy we
follow mhammad s Ali wasallam who is the
greatest human being to have ever lived
uh and if you look at it from a metric
perspective you can't deny him let's
finish off with your reaction to this
yeah by Mel Gibson uh you know when they
appoint some Cardinal in some dasis and
he's been covering up for like people
who are child molesters you know like
Theodore mccarrick or Cardinal whir or
those kind of guys I mean for the pope
yes absolutely I'm I'm Benedict oh not
Ben well he was was covering up but like
so is the guy now is he really oh yeah
yeah it's it's not great I thought he
was like the more Progressive Pope oh
he's very Progressive yes but he's
covering up for stuff as well well they
they all are I mean it's a it's a a dark
institution in a lot of ways cuz it's
history what do you think when you see
that yeah I mean the thing is this is
well known and the Catholic you know
there's been many reports that I've been
done a bit I think there was a report in
1994 or five called the report as well
actually that was done on this what's
going on in the clergy and stuff in the
in the UK and it's was National scandals
many many times and to be honest you can
make a robust psychological case for why
people who are celibate would become
sexual
deviants you can make a you can actually
make a psychological case for that
because if you're if you're being a
celibate person for all this time on a
on a Freudian psychoanalytic analysis or
a normal psychotic analysis you would
say if you suppress something so much
actually it comes out as more deep it
becomes worse in fact there's names that
they call it the Romeo Juliet effect
they call it for example there's this
that and the effect they they they have
names for it but certainly this is the
the classical psychological
psychoanalytic way of looking at that if
you suppress something too much
especially something like sexuality that
can come out in perverse and deviant
ways and so that this idea of celibacy
which the clergy uh the Christian clergy
obviously not all of them like for
example the anglicans in this country
they don't have to do that but certainly
the Catholics they they have to do that
you can make a robust I'm sure many
already have made a robust psychological
case for how that can mutate into sexual
perversion because the question is I
mean it's a very simple question but let
me ask it for the public think about it
for a second yeah why is it that a lot
of these priests Catholic priests they
end up going for the young ones young
boys especially why y why young boys why
not women if you're going to break your
your celebrity thing why not just go to
a prostitute or put a mask on this that
she doesn't need to know who you are go
to another country it's not like you're
world famous because someone will say oh
the prostitute can expose him no no go
to another country go to The Prostitute
why why do you have to go to the
boy well because there might have been
and this is something I'm putting out
there from a psychological there might
have been a process where your
suppression okay where you've suppressed
something so much your sexuality
something so uh important you've
suppress it so much that it has now
become deviant Behavior now has become a
perverted thing it has become worse than
it would would have been same kind of
thing as you see in in prisons and so on
so why don't you maybe start speaking
about that let's start speaking about
what's going on in in Catholic societies
again with the clergy and this that and
the other the biggest names that we have
of traffickers and groomers and abusers
have been of people from a Jewish
background like Jeffrey Epstein or from
White backgrounds like savil Jimmy Sav
and yet these are huge cases I don't
even know how many people Sav molested
and abused I think it's in the hundreds
that's one guy one white man done more
than what a whole village could Asian
Village could do what you talking about
about this and that and the other how
dare you speak to us about this time and
the other there's a there's a greater
connection between IR you can make an
argument once again you can make an
argument between
atheism irreligiosity and believing in
no morality and having intercourse with
kids or having intercourse with a
newborn baby or this and that and the
other and it's all over by the way
there's a dark porn industry where I
have been uh told that they they invest
in these things movies and stuff where
they speak about it openly about this
pornography and stuff that where is
another question where is pornography of
child children pornography underage when
we talk about underage here we're
talking about real underage six-year old
seveny old 8y old niney where is that
produced mostly is it produced in the
Muslim World Is It produced in the
Pakistan is it produced in in in Egypt
is it produced in Turkey no it's
produced in the west it's distributed so
why don't we start speaking about these
industries these underground industries
that political Elites are involved in
why are you trying to escape go the
Muslim people all the time this is is a
the mother of all
distractions which we must address and
this is the elephant in the room let's
let's close it off with this uh because
all of this kind of came up with this
saw whole grooming Scandal so let's put
it to rest with these numbers that yes
are coming out and to light largely a
Pakistani problem what is the data
saying that it isn't it's mostly white
people 3.9% of group based offenders are
Pakistani and 85% are white the
reporting has been very heavily focused
on Pakistani men and heavily focused on
the offenses committed against white
girls and you can see from the data that
the highest proportion of those offenses
is actually committed by white man it
impacts on the confidence of other
victims coming forwards from other
group- based offending so if you would
have a national inquiry into Pakistani
grooming gangs you would be ignoring 90%
of those grooming gangs and that only
makes up about 18% of all group-based
offenses which in itself is only 3.5% of
all child abuse victims of Pakistani
grooming gangs a lot of them do want a
national inquiry I think what's being
highlighted here by the police is that
there are a lot of people who are
victims of child abuse if you had a
national inquiry specifically into this
one thing that might discourage people
who've been the victims of other forms
of child you have any comments on it
before we conclude yeah only that the
3.9% figure is based on a study which
only collected 30 3 to 34% of the
ethnicity uh actually the the better
study is the CSA report which was done
in 2020 to
2023 and was produced in
2024 which show shows that uh 2% of the
population was Pakistani and 2% of the
perpetrators were Pakistani so in fact
it's less than what is being suggested
here and uh in fact what's interesting
about that is it shows that there was
that particular study the CSA report it
shows that there was over representation
on the side of white perpetrators and um
there was not over representation on the
side of Pakistani and or Asian uh
perpetrators of this heinous crime and
so the numbers do not are not
commensurate with the outrage this is
the problem so the the counterargument
they then make then because they realize
okay the numbers do not support
us either they'll go for a particular
town or city like for example rotheram
or Rochdale or Telford they'll go for a
particular time which there is uh Asian
over representation okay but that's
that's not how sociologists should
operate because what on What basis are
we going to one town rather than another
town it's a in the United Kingdom if
anything it shows there's a problem with
that town if anything it shows there's
an issue going on in that there
something happening in that town there
are other towns that have majority
whites and no Asians at all operating
for example so you'd have to it's
selective if another counterargument
would be for them to say well the real
issue at hand is the fact that it was
covered up by the British
authorities because if you read the
Casey report or the greater Manchester
report or if you if you read the J
report or other reports that have been
produced they say in those reports that
there was and it does mention this
multiple times that some of the
authorities were afraid to be basically
labeled as racist if they per if they um
you know put the pakistanis Behind Bars
Etc if if they do that now the question
would be then if this is the case what
who is to blame for that because the
officers the the police officers were
white officers so the fact that some
white officers couldn't do their job
properly why should the Muslim uh people
be implicated for this you got some
white people who are police officers in
Telford in Rochdale and rotheram they
couldn't do their job properly because
they were as scared and afraid that they
would be fired because they will be
called racist in rotheram and Rochdale
in these places and they couldn't do
their job properly if this is true
what's that got to do with me or
somebody else or you living in in in in
Florida or me living in London what's
that got to do with me why implicated
with this why we why are you blaming me
for that what what kind of collective
responsibility thing is this anyway but
then what I would say then as well is
that okay someone could argue but
there's a cover up I would say also if
you look at the question of
institutional racism within the police
the police in the United Kingdom is such
an unusual situation you either act in
one extreme which is complete racism and
there's been investigations like with
the Steven Lawrence case you know
against black people in and this and
that especially in London and inoc areas
and because the police were so racist in
the '90s and
2000s they were so they became so afraid
of being labeled racist because of the
racism do you see what's happened
because they were so racist for such a
long time some of them in Rochdale and R
Rother room and Telford became so afraid
that they would be labeled racist
because it's known now the institutional
racism in the police to the point where
they actually have an overseeing agency
you know they have overseeing agencies
which you can select you can do
complaint and there was so many
complaint thousands of complaints of
racism so because they're so racist
they're afraid to be labeled racist once
again this is a problem with the the
police forces in the United Kingdom why
should Muslims be implicated for
problems with this why are you always
blaming Muslim people for the the
failures of the police the failures of
Western foreign policy the failures of
the the the oppression of colonialism
everything we must be blamed for
and I think to be honest with you at
this point it's it's clear what they're
trying to do they see us as easy meet an
easy
target and we have to fight back and we
are fighting back with logic and with
with great shows like the dean show one
of the greatest shows uh in in in in the
englishspeaking Muslim world and someone
like Eddie from the dean show is the
most consistent Muslim podcast of all
time in the English language which I
have had the the pleasure and honor of
of being on his podcast multiple times
and inshallah we see each other in the
flesh because you have been a great
inspiration for all of the people of
daah across the world in a way that I
don't think many people can uh can say
alhamdulillah thank you my brother look
forward to seeing you in person let's
give that advice to Patrick now if you
really want to get to know Islam you
gave some brilliant advice get to know
Islam by the six articles of Faith the
Five Pillars study the testimony of
faith that there's nothing worthy of
worship except the creator of heavens
and earth a couple Hadi come to my mind
where the Prophet Muhammad peace and
blessings be upon him said that he was
like a you know like the house you're
going around this beautiful mansion it's
one brick missing and they were like man
there's what's going on here there's
this brick missing he said I'm that
brick I'm the Seal of the prophets I'm
the final messenger sent to mankind so
would they qualify this PO you know we
we want the best for all of mankind but
uh do they qualify under this other
Hadith that the prophet Muhammad peace
and blessed be upon him said the one who
hears about me and rejects me can end up
in the Hellfire so should Patrick and
David and like take this matter serious
it's not just about clicks and views
you're going end leaving all this money
behind you're going to be in the grave
and if Prophet Muhammad he's a messenger
not just for me and you but for Patrick
B David himself and that crew is that
correct absolutely I think you
summarized it in a very beautiful way
and I hope that this man is look be
sincere is what I would say be sincere
and ask where is the truth ask God to
guide you to the truth sometimes the
truth can come from people that you
don't necessarily like and not part of
your tribe or not you but if you're a
true a truth Seeker then you will accept
the truth and seeketh the truth and the
truth shall set you free as the Bible
says may Allah bless you thank you for
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