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welcome to another episode of the dean
show every week we try to bring you a
new show helping you understand the most
misunderstood way of life in the world
today which over 1.5 billion people in
the world practice today so you should
really get to know Islam really get to
know your your your local Muslims and
that's what we're trying to do we're
trying to help you build a better
understanding so that's how we can build
tolerance within each other and that's
how we can strive to get to that peace
that we're all looking for So today
we're going to be talking to a former
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dean show he's been with us many times
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show how are you brother good
alhamdulillah brother how are you all
right alhamdulillah all praise to God uh
thank you for coming out again
absolutely
we're going to be talking today on the
dean show Da dialogue with an atheist
you know it's our responsibility it's
Our obligation as ones who um follow
Islam to extend the invitation just like
you invite somebody over for dinner you
invite them to the ball game we need to
invite people to this wonderful way of
life which is surrender and submission
to God alone and not his creation yes
and from there everything else falls
into place so some sometimes when you're
talking to people you come across
somebody who just does not believe in
God how has your experience been with
this and how do you uh go about talking
to someone who does not believe in God
well most
people you know there's different forms
of atheism and agnostics and things of
this nature um you know that give you
the you know that you know science you
know uh proves there's no God you know
with the big bang and the expansion of
the universe and you know everything
coming together through Evolution and
Darwin's theory and all this other stuff
you know and people have gone and tried
to refute this by using you know huge
scientific means you have people like
Haron Yahya who have gone you know and
his extensive books on you know the
proof of the universe this that the
proof inside every other thing you know
what basically you know if you can break
an atheist to a point down to look just
look around you you know look look
around you at this beautiful Universe it
runs in constant Harmony all these G
billions the numbers that are not even
invented of planets they're run in a
perfect manner perfect orbit they don't
cross over each other they don't have
anything just look at this world this
world is in the perfect place to sustain
life we're at a couple feet closer to
the Sun nothing would live here couple
feet farther everything be frozen if it
rotated on the axis any different you
know like all of these things everything
is perfect and perfect I mean to the
exact degree it's perfect everything is
in perfect sync Harmony you know the
amount of rain and the amount of
evaporation exact all of these things
scientifically prove that there's a God
and people say oh you know that's come
around from The Big Bang and
evolution and you know just per chance
and things you know and I asked I asked
a guy one time an atheist you know um
and I've heard this same analogy used
before that if I went to a Mercedes ben
Factory say give me every part that it
takes to make a Mercedes give me every
single piece put it in a big big bin
they give you every single part all jum
it up put it in a big bin you throw a
bomb in there blow the whole thing to
smiing you think you're going to get a
Mercedes not at all you know you I don't
care if you throw 50 the more bombs you
throw in there the less like Mercedes is
going to start to look so you're going
to tell me that a big bang an explosion
created all and we're talking about
Mercedes something that was created by
human hands something that breaks down
something that one day is going to
corrode and fall apart look at this
Earth
you know it runs in Perfect Harmony
millions of years millions and millions
maybe billions of years it's been going
in Perfect Harmony nothing is happen
look at our body our body runs in such a
way that it's perfect harmony our heart
beats but we don't have to think about
it we breathe without thinking about it
our our brain functions without thinking
about our blood vessel all these things
happen without us having even pondered
even a little bit the only thing we got
to do is put some food and water in it
and take care of it and exercise and it
runs perfectly so you mean to tell me
all of this is about chance because only
only someone who is either a
fool
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okay question uh they called in and
they're asking us about the subject
of how do you prove there's God and how
do you overcome the question when
somebody asks you that where did
everything come from and what about the
big bang that the universe is coming
from a big bang and why don't we just
accept that instead of uh coming up with
this creation business
okay one of the ways I like to explain
it to our students is like this it's
pretty simple first and foremost if
they're not Muslim always remind them
that we say thank you for asking me
about my religion refer to the Quran and
the teachings of Muhammad and make sure
they understand that this is not
something you're going to make up on the
spot okay the next thing though is to
ask them what would happen if I take a
water glass and I walk out to the
pavement and I drop it and it'll shatter
into many pieces splintered and break
and it'll just be destroyed you know
glass everywhere I say what will happen
if I bring another glass and drop it
they said the same thing I said will it
be exactly the same they said no it'll
be different every time but it will
always be
shattered all right now another thing
when you talk
about something just blowing up we talk
about that there was a a mass that just
blew up and everything came out of that
just a big bang is what they refer to a
big bang of blowing up now we know full
well about things blowing up in fact
they are attributing all the blowings up
to the Muslims in the world aren't they
but consider this well if you've seen it
and I've seen it on television it's a
horrible thing it's never beautiful is
it is it no the only thing that comes
out of explosions is chaos when there is
this random uh blowing up of the random
dropping of this glass on the payment
you get mess you never get order you
don't have order that comes out of chaos
never ever it doesn't happen that way so
how would it be if a tornado went
through a junkyard a salvage yard and
picked all this metal up the cars and
old refrigerators and threw them up into
the air spun them around and then
suddenly dropped him down and it turns
out that all of it was compact together
and made a brand new Mercedes with a
motor running a brand new automobile and
the motor running would you accept that
you said this is crazy this is wilder
than a Steven Spielberg sci-fi movie
you're right it is yet when you look to
the universe what do you see what do you
see you see these spheres these spheres
going in elliptical orbits the Sun in an
orbit the planets around the Sun in
orbits the moons going around the
planets they're in orbits too and how is
that how does this come about stop and
think about it is it possible that this
kind of order
comes from an
explosion without a design without a
plan and when you look to the microscope
you look at these molecules and you you
know you know these also are what these
are round
orbs and the theory of the atom is exam
the same thing that you have a proton an
electron a neutron and these are also
spheres going in orbits around other
spheres so what we find under the m
microscope we find in the telescope as
well and who is it that designed this
how is this plan all coming together and
a molecule of protein could not be
produced by accident if you took all the
elements in the universe and slammed
them together for billions and billions
and billions of times they would never
ever form the first molecule of protein
and protein is the essence of life
itself we know that all life came out of
water and that's what it says in the
Quran 1,400 years ago all life is
brought out of water Allah said that
that he brought life out of water go
check it out go to science islam.com
prove it for yourself okay let's go back
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show only someone
who is either a fool or someone who is
so stubborn because if you really really
break it down to most
atheists it's usually not because of
these factors it usually breaks down to
something like my little sister died
when I was 10 years old she was hit by a
car or you know my my mother died of
cancer you know unexplainable events
have happened in these people's lives
that they don't you know that they don't
want to Tribute they gave up on God they
gave up on God gave up on God this is
what's happened to most people nobody's
born an atheist I've never met someone
who told me I've born an atheist I
believed in I've been an Atheist all my
life doesn't happen doesn't happen like
that something happens along the way to
make them so angry at God they give up
on him yeah and the the greatest way to
give up on him is to deny him and that's
what usually happens something tragic
happened in a person's life and they
just get they don't get the answers the
proper answers yes which in the last and
final revelation of mankind that we
recommend that everyone pick up this
book and read because the author is God
Almighty Gody and he explains why
certain things happen to us he explains
all the different tests and trials that
we're going through what the purpose of
life now when you don't find these
answers then usually or if you're
looking in the wrong place usually give
up L absolutely now I like to tell
people that they can take do it a simple
test they can actually sit wherever
they're at if they're at a desk right
now if they're in their living room and
just look at the little things around
them for instance we I got a pen I got I
got I got the cup I got the dean show
cup I got the you know uh uh table you
got your jacket you got your sweater you
got your hat all these things someone
designed it someone made it someone put
it together that's right the shoes to
serve a purpose to protect our feet when
we walk the pen to write with has a
purpose the socks that go on your feet
the hat that you wear everything has a
purpose and it's been made by somebody
who made it for a purpose to serve us
but
this body that is so detailed the cell
the eye the human camera yeah everything
we take for granted I mean all these
things I mean somebody take this why
does that do
that gravity yeah without gravity what
happens life is not existent we don't
exist without this one little thing we
take for granted every day who can do
something like this who can create
something like this you know these
things don't happen by chance these
things don't come just per chance it's
not possible just like if you and and
and really it goes back down to just
plain logic if you see the tallest one
of the tallest buildings we're here in
Chicago and you see the Cirrus tower now
if you were taking somebody
sightseeing and you showed them the
Cirus Tower and they said wow I wonder
who designed this he said nobody said
nobody just it just grew that tall and
it just popped up there like you fool
what are you talking about you think
putal Hospital you think you're joking
but these are the logical things why
when it comes down to to to something so
great like this universe in us that
somebody just denies the crater behind
this and you see a beautiful painting
and there's got to be somebody who
painted it a chef with some food you
don't question that nobody prepared that
meal so it really comes down to just
logic it's just simple common sense
that's it first thing if you were
walking through the desert and find a
watch it would be like who left this
watch here who put it here you know you
would not think like just just oh this
watch is just here just showed up you
know all these things that we take for
granted you know like one atheist tried
to S me you know I had a dialogue one
time with the atheist and a fber center
who you know they they deny the
existence of God they think you know
some Essence within that 5centers 5% I
never heard of that um it would be a
very long topic maybe we get into that
in another show but they basically you
know were like everything is
self-existent yeah you know everything
is exist in and of itself I told him I
said hold your
if you're self-existent hold your breath
don't eat Don't drink don't sleep
doesn't work it doesn't work all these
things are put in a perfect order you
have to eat you have to drink you have
to sleep you have to breathe you have to
have the sun is radi you have to have
the these same things the the
chlorophyll that the plants need to
exist the only way that this chlorophyll
reaches us is because of the way that
the the layers of the of the the heavens
are created I mean you know one of these
things once small minute thing out of
place life does not exist we're going to
continue on with just some logical
proofs and this destroys all the other
falsehood and everything else that just
is irrational this is very logical we're
going to continue on using our intellect
which people deny that someone has given
us this and we attribute it to the
creator of the heavens and earth so
we're going to come back on the dean
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out asalam Alum peace be upon you you're
watching the dean show and this is the
portion of the show we call the mailbag
this is where we go through the mail and
see the questions and comments that
we've had from you guys and take calls
at that time too but right now I want to
address some of the questions that are
coming to us from some atheists talking
to us about is there really any proof
for what you're saying and how come you
don't believe in evolution well that's a
good question first and foremost as
always I say thank you for asking me
about my religion then I mentioned that
we have the truth and the proof we can't
lie or we'll go to hell forever and
certainly we have the authentic Quran in
the original recitation Arabic language
so that's there for us let us deal now
with this question why we don't believe
in
evolution it's the Muslims okay who are
the only ones on the planet where our
religion is telling us that there is
creation and yet there is a form of
evolution at the same time and it's
never been changed this is not an
apologetic this was offered 1400 years
ago long before Darwood was even a
little small monkey
and but seriously it tells us in the
Quran that Allah
is he says
he said that he is the creator that
created the human beings in the best of
form but then he also said that he is
albari and albari means the one who
shapes or evolves things from one state
to another so Allah is Alik and Allah is
alari so that's the solution to the
problem if you're worried about it now
put your mind at ease If there really is
any form of evolution it was already
discussed in the Quran 1,400 years ago
and as far as creation and we know that
exists that was the same there really
isn't any evidence by the way in science
to produce an example of real evolution
of a species changing over to a totally
different species no such thing as a
skunk becoming a giraffe no such thing
as an alligator becoming a snake and no
such thing as a human being becoming a
monkey or the other way around and we'll
refer ref you now to a website so that
you can go check all this out for
yourself go to science islam.com two
words but put together as one science
islam.com check it out for yourself let
us know what you think we're going to
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welcome back to the dean show we're
talking to the atheist having a dialogue
and we're giving some logical points
really just common sense you don't look
at a Mercedes-Benz or Rolex watch and
you don't think that you know what
there's not somebody who spent time
designing this someone who orchestrated
this who manipulated this and put this
together but the universe with all the
billions of billions of
galaxies and then we come down to
everything that's actually subservient
to us like the the plants and the
animals and the food that the oil
everything's been put in this Earth for
us so you're going
to you know some of these just simple
things you you don't you deny yeah just
use a little bit of thinking you don't
have to look too far no no you don't
have to look very far to find it even
even God says in the Quran the final
relevation of mankind if you want
evidence of my existence look inside
yourself look inside yourself that
should be more than sufficient evidence
to realize that I am the Creator the
Quran really doesn't uh because we've
not too many people in the past I think
now we're uh because the majority
majority of people even though they have
the wrong conception of God they testify
that there is a God yes but they have
I'm sorry the wrong concept of God they
turn him into a man into a stone into a
stick they pray to to Idols but Islam
comes to clear all this up but the
majority of people actually testify that
there is a guy yeah the majority yes
yeah so how do how does
somebody get out of this um
dilemma now because at the end what do
you really got to live for you know you
might live for your wife or your
children but they're actually going to
be gone and now what is what is the
meaning of life actually if you don't
believe in that higher power how do you
talk to someone and persuade them
logically to get out of this and to move
forward well you have to bring them that
understanding first that there is there
is a Creator you know because once you
realize that all of this is not here per
chance it has a purpose then you
understand that that purpose is not just
like God did not just Place us on this
Earth to live for 5 10 15 20 50 100
years and then we go into non-existence
you know God put us on this Earth for a
purpose and this is just the beginning
of the game you know and we have to
understand that most major religions
believe in the afterlife almost all
religions believe in some form of
afterlife almost everything believes in
some of form afterlife in whatever way
you believe in it that there is going to
have something here and and what you do
here is going to play some consequence
on that just like in this world and what
you do now like what I do now if I go
commit a crime I'm going to be punished
for that I'm going to have to pay that
Consequence the same here with this
little bit of span of life that we live
in um in the next life is going to be
based on how we live this one you know
so we have to find our purpose which our
purpose is that we were put on this
Earth To Worship the one Creator in
everything that we do um and that in
doing so we would have a happy life in
the next life which would be forever in
in paradise and if we don't then we
would not have a very happy next life
which would be forever in hell and you
know what that makes sense cuz as you
pointed out that what you do now what
you sow is what you reap be right
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you're watching the Dean show this is
the mailbag I'm youf Estus and we got a
good question right here want jump right
to it right away they're asking the
question is there proof that God really
exists and how can I explain it to
somebody that's an atheist well first of
all remember always say thank you for
asking me about my religion refer to the
fact that we always tell the truth we
have to or we go to hell and we base
what we say on the evidences from the
Quran which is preserved in Arabic
language, 1400 years and the teachings
of Muhammad understand that this is the
basis of how we're going to give the
answer next when you begin to talk to
the person about this remember that you
don't guide people it's Allah that
guides not you and you can use our
website to back up what you're saying we
have a number of websites out there you
can go to search for Islam and type in
the keyword and it will help you find
what you looking for but in this case
I'll tell you which one of our sites
will give you exact answer for this it's
called science
islam.com science islam.com because they
want to know what's the proof of God and
that's one of the questions the first
question right there who is the god that
we're talking about because often people
confuse what we believe with what other
religions believe it's totally different
Islam we believe that God is not the
creation not a part of the creation
doesn't need the creation does not have
this interaction with the creation where
he's dependent in any way on this
creation however the creation depends on
him
100% when you really understand the
monism of Islam and compare it to
anything else you'll find it's quite
unique go to the website there and check
it out for yourself and understand that
the Miracles that we have around us were
mentioned in the Quran 1400 years ago
things that people couldn't have known
about many of the other things that we
have in common sense and Logic the
answers that even science today is
stumped they can't answer the questions
they're found in islam, 1400 years ago
find out what nine different scientists
said themselves after finding out this
information those that took the time to
read study and understand in the Arabic
language what the Quran was teaching and
see what they said we have nine videos
on the website there check it out for
yourself and see okay we're going to
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what
you seow is what you
reap so what you invest today is going
to be the outcome tomorrow so that's why
the necessary uh next life plays a
factor yes otherwise what's the purpose
now you can rob steal do whatever and if
there's no accountability that's it no
so when you know that there is a crater
that you will be held accountable it
puts you in check and it's just a
logical belief absolutely and Islam
provides all the evidence that we need
to not just blindly believe but believe
with enough evidence to strengthen us to
move forward absolutely tell us that
verse there's one beautiful verse in the
Quran that just just blows away uh the
argument and where God
says did you create your were you
created from nothing or did you create
yourselves yeah yeah did you yeah did
you come from nothing or or you
yourselves your creator you know it's a
rhetorical question you know like how
did you get here did you create all of
this or am I the Creator you know like
there's it goes on even from that you
know and in it's in uh chapter 56 God
says look at the fire that you Kindle
who created the wood did you create the
wood or am I the creator of look at the
rain that comes down from the heavens do
you bring it down or is I the one that
bring it down if I had wished I would
have made it salty so you couldn't even
drink it you know so there's one chapter
in the Quran that Allah goes the the
Allah the true God goes over and over
reminding us of these things that we
derive benefit from and then ask us did
you do this by yourself or I the one
that does it and at the end of that he
says then you should submit to me and me
alone this is this is the whole purpose
of not to your desires not to the dollar
not to materialism not to a man or a
monkey but to God the creator of the
heavens and earth alone alone and that's
the whole message of Islam which means
surrender and submission to the creator
of the heavens and the Earth I'd like to
thank you for being with us again on the
dean show look back always always a
pleasure and I'd like to thank everybody
that is uh been tuning in since day one
I'd like to send a special thanks to
also we've made some adjustments on the
website where you can go on there and
continue doing your research looking
into the question and answer section and
for that person that doesn't believe in
God and now it has struck him to think a
little more and he wants answers to to
what's the purpose of life he wants to
know why he's been created where do I go
from here Islam answers all these
questions logically and with the
evidence so we made some adjustments on
the website i' like to thank uh my
brother uh Abdul wahed from England
who's really helped me out a lot I'd
like to thank you brother jazak Haider
um for all your assistance and help you
can check out uh his site uh islamik
t.net he's got a lot of information on
there also and everybody that continues
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