uh long story short um I was I'm going
to be very honest I was kidnapped back
home in Mexico so I ended up uh living
my country so I have to you know like go
out of my country I came to United
States and uh Subhan Allah I was I was
having the same life that I was having
back on back home in Mexico so uh I was
you know like it doesn't matter if you
have money you have whatever you have
it's it's like inside the heart it was I
was like a zombie like in this world
like do doing nothing but you know like
just going after my desires so one day
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we're going to be talking about Chapo
and the cartel he was living that kind
of Lifestyle void upon void in the heart
depressed empty inside looking for
something on the wrong side but he
finally fought through got through and
he's here on the dean
show the
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the is
the this is the
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theam alaykum peace be with you Salam
how how do you say uh in Spanish uh
peace be with you the greeting that we
do
is that's simple huh beautiful greeting
yeah now you weren't always saying this
greeting were you no no no no no no how
you from Mexico I'm from Mexico I'm I
was born and raised in Mexico now what
part of Mexico monter did they catch
Chapo yet uh I think so yeah I don't
follow that much news but yeah he's out
huh now see that glamorous lifestyle you
got the money at the end it's finished
God adios adios amigos
Vista Vista yeah but were you living
that kind of Lifestyle back then uh yes
I was actually I was you were the chief
of the cartels no no no no no no no you
were in but now uh we did a live feed
first time ever on the Facebook I was
thinking like suicide thoughts and
everything because I didn't want to know
anything about that this life and we
just get a glimpse of why you upset
accepted Islam something about you were
kidnapped yes tell us about this yeah I
got kidnapping um the end of 200 well in
2009 MH um I got hit in 2009 at the end
of of the of the
year what happened how how what is there
something you could talk about like how
uh yeah yeah I think so yeah how long
ago was that uh well it was in 2009 it
was in 2009 which is almost uh uh six
years six years and and few months uh it
was uh because of you know like all B
company you don't have to go into like
specifics yeah okay yeah so in 2006 or
2009 uh there was this called a drug of
cartel so the city where I'm from is in
the north of Mexico so basically that
city um is a city where where you know
like they do business that kind of
business you know so everything started
to go like really really bad and
especially you know like if you are
involved in the streets and things like
that so you were you were with the wrong
company I was with the wrong company
trying try trying to achieve the wrong
goals yes and actually I was uh I was
with my cousin when that happened
alhamdulillah nothing happened to me did
they put you in a trunk uh no it was in
a van it was in a van uh they got us
with the machine guns in the head and
everything so they took my cousin out in
another in another car uh he was working
you know for for the government so
basically it was more in because of that
those that stuff and um yeah so they
tortur him they they they torture him so
they they the cartel was actually
torturing him your cousin yes wow so man
you were like it this is some stuff out
of a movies a bad or action movie or
something some scary stuff yeah when I
when I we want to just kind of give a
glimpse to see like how people can pull
themselves out because some people still
stuck in that life they think they watch
Tony Montana I know you watch Tony
Montana right yeah you know Scarface yes
so you see that and you think okay I'm
going to be big shot now right I'm going
be like thony but then you end up in the
back of the trunk somewhere yes and is
like an addition you know like one
little thing bring you to another thing
and then to another thing and then
everything started to to go like a like
a I don't know it's like a combination
of arrogance with a little bit of power
you know and then you have like a you're
like a famous among your friends you
know like with with the with the with
the friends you know uh you started to
get like like a power or or how do you
say like they see you like a celebrity
or something you know so that that that
started to grow like your ego started to
grow and then it's little by little like
more more and more it's an addictive I
mean it's uh an add I know exactly what
you're talking about everybody has holds
in their hearts the the the my point of
view is is H how do you feel those those
hes you know do you feel them with drugs
you know with alcohol with girls or you
know being out there making easy money
you know now how did you at what point
did you start because sometimes I mean
you're obviously um Young you're
energetic you have the wrong examples
you don't have a good example it set up
the environment so in in the mix of all
this how do you take that turn towards
where you're at
now yes so how I say I I had to leave my
country basically it was more like a
self-rehabilitation you know it was more
like a self-rehabilitation I ended up
being here in in in the United States I
had the opportunity to come here so my
point was just to come to United States
learn English then go back back and
finish University uh but I ended up uh
being here alhamdulillah and um as I
said in the beginning it was very tough
because sometimes we sometimes we we
think that we want to move from one
place to another place and the problems
will ended up over there you know in
that place but actually what happened to
me is that I didn't good those problem
you know I was doing bad stuff over
there back home in Mexico then you know
in the beginning when I came to United
States it was in the beginning it was
good and you know like normal because I
didn't speak English because I didn't
know anyone here I don't have any single
till this point I don't have any member
of my family all my family is back home
in Mexico so in the beginning it was
good but then little by little it
started to grow when I start meeting the
people the places I start doing the same
thing that I was doing back over there
you know uh the Bad Company you know and
clothes and then fight stingly that
drugs you know yeah now just dragging
the problems just it it just keeps
growing and growing and growing and and
you didn't did you ever at one point did
you ever did you know did you're
conscious sometimes people they they go
to extent where the conscience that's
like a signal that's a blessing from
from God from from Allah that you have
this this inside of you this um that
goes off and tells you hold on you
shouldn't do that you know it talks to
you were you having that that guilt that
was that was um overtaking you and you
were like man I got to change I got to
you know find a new route yes uh I
always have I always have the feeling
you know I feel I can consider myself
that I was you know doing good you know
with with with the family you know I had
that guil the one that you're saying but
at the same time um as I said in the
beginning like everybody has holes the
the problem is how do you feel those
holes I'm coming from a broken family
and I think my point of view is that
what I didn't have in a family you know
I didn't I was not like in a in a in
family where there is like parents
together I was looking for that love or
that that the that that thing outside
IND the street you know even though I'm
coming from a good family education and
everything I was looking for that you
know I was in the streets you know
looking looking for that thing so uh I
did have uh uh like the guilt um to the
point that I was trying to balance to
have that good life and also the the the
the other side you know until the point
that you can never be you can never
handle both whether whether you have to
whether you decide to be good or you
decide to be bad you know but you have
to make that decision because in the
middle there's no possible good or bad
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back take that simple step that you ask
your maker to guide you that he'll guide
you yes I I I advise this a lot uh so
for people are searching put your head
on the floor
in the in the in the state of
frustration like all the prophets did
and ask the creator of the universe to
show you the way to guide you to the
straight path and someone who sincerely
asks for guidance subh they'll found it
in this that's
it back here on the dean show and we're
talking about cartel we got chapos are
already put away that you know thank God
alhamdulillah that you didn't continue
going maybe you would have been the next
Chapo you had all the money you know
power but then you're hiding in basement
you know the guy went probably from
having he was on Forbes Magazine like
one of the richest people in the world
but now he's like you know hiding in in
Rat holes and they finally got him all
those things just went to to an end hit
a big dead end and you could have been
and you got kidnapped could have been
like um just uh at the equates to
nothing did you have peace back then in
your heart we talked about holes in the
heart obviously you didn't there were
empty holes are they filled now yeah
alhamdulillah now of course I feel like
totally good you know even some people
that that I that I that they see me you
know they see man what's going on with
you you know that even the face change
you know like back there I think it was
more like a hey you know or something
even in in the face you know and um what
do you mean like you it was uh you you
seem like that newer comes out the
brightness the people who are involved
in bad things it's dark right it is it
is and and comes out from the soul that
just the heart dark yeah I'm being in
that path uh I'm pretty sure that the
people that are watching us they they
know what I'm talking about because if
you are in that path you can notice or
you can recognize what's going on when
you you know something you see when when
you doing all the most evil things that
just comes out yes and something you say
like in Spanish we have a saying uh the
N ofil fil fil yes it's like Easy Money
easy comes easy go yeah no Baraka you
know no blessing no no no no blessing
wow so tell us more like um were you
ever for someone who's on that other
side did you ever did the question ever
come up like what's the purpose of life
why am I here in this world did you ever
think about those things yeah all the
time all the time and um I was I was I
was not happy you can be happy but it's
a short time you can be happy for maybe
one day couple hours but then at the end
of the day you ended up being the same
person you like alone you know and then
that's why you you you go back to to
what you do you know you go back to the
alcohol or you go back you know to to
the drugs or whatever because you're
trying to get chasing after something
that is just for a very short period of
time now don't a lot of these drug
dealers cartel they're actually many of
them are very religious people I mean
not technically in a sense like they're
in in church every Saturday but you'll
see like right now I don't think she
would will ever uh get out from toito
you may not have heard of her but
recently Santa Muerte began making
international headlines am made reports
of ritual Human Sacrifice just south of
the US Border in Mexico a lot of cartel
members in Mexico uh count among the
ranks of her devotees s morte is nothing
new to those who battle drug lords and
traffickers the candles are often used
to set up shrines hey hey hey hey that's
the sound of a man being tortured inside
the home where the man was tortured is
this Shrine to Sant moarte just saw a
clip you know they're doing the TR you
know the the the cross many of them
there's this saint of death have you
heard Santa was it morta yeah yeah
actually it
was yeah what what's go what's all this
about yeah I mean that's that's uh I
mean I think when you're not in the
right guidance you ended up having your
your you know like having your all Idols
or whatever you you know actually the
people that I that I used to hang out
they used to believe in in in in uh L
Santa mu you know and like we used to
have even like a that's good that you
mentioned that we used to have in in one
of my body's house like a big big uh
Santa mu over there you know that's big
popular over there huh what does that
literally means that means the saint of
death it's the saint of death but
basically you you you ask for for favors
you know you ask for favors and and and
basically if you are involved in in in
bad stuffff you know you you ask for for
protection you know to not take take you
you know because you know that being in
that path you are risk you know all the
time you you got to watch your back and
then you have to know that your life can
be gone in one second you know so you
ask uh for protection you know to the to
the ground you know to the ground D you
know so you have a lot of that in Mexico
Saint worship uh saint of death all
these different idols
I mean it's everywhere you know like
there is even a a drug dealer he's
called his name is Jesus malde you know
like there is people who worship Jesus
Mal who Jesus Mal Jesus Mal he's a what
is he he was uh I think he was like a
drug dealer back in the 70s or or even
before now they woring him uh yeah the
people have their their like uh their
stuff over there and they have like a
altars they put candy they put like a uh
like a bottles of tequila candles and
then fruits and then all this uh stuff
you know like and what and now I mean
because obviously there's there's the
yearning inside to want to worship and
if you're not worshiping the Creator
you're worshiping the creation Now how
at the end what's the difference with
Islam now who are you directing this
worship to alhamdulillah now now it's
like a stray to the to the one that
created us you know that is a Creator
and that is the creation you know that
is just one Creator everything else is
creation you know whatever you want to
follow whether if whether if you are if
you are worshiping the money if you have
the money in your heart you ended up
worshiping the money you know if you are
doing put putting yourself into this Stu
tough situation you know you ended up
worshiping this stuff you know but now
it's like straight to the Creator you
know and I said that Spanish direct
dialog straight to the to the one who
created
that comes naturally when you come out
and you say yeah that's deep huh that's
powerful yeah I just learned English
four years ago oh you doing good my
brother thank you so much well yeah and
you do learn some uh some Arabic phrases
also yeah I'm I'm studying Arabic wow
you come a long way mashah this is
really this is really great coming from
where you were you know uh aspiring to
come on did you tell most people want to
be like Chapo don't mes or who's the
next guy one of these guys you you you
idolize because we're creatures of IM so
you're looking at these guys and you're
like I want to be like him yeah
sometimes it's just like uh I I just
honestly honestly I don't understand you
know sometimes I can feel you know like
I see you know I'm running away from
that path you know running away from
that path and I can see something you
know like people going back to the path
that I was you know it's not something
fun it's not cool you know people think
that it's cool because all these movies
all these people talking about that
stuff like a celebrity like like if it's
something good you know but this is not
this is nothing that I would recommend
not even to my worst enemy is is like
Darkness you know and and Allah subhana
wa tala takes people from the darkness
and put them on the light and at the
same time he can take people from the
light and put them in the darkness you
know and I can tell because I was
already in the darkness you know I
already know you know maybe the the the
Hellfire is after that but you can even
feel like the hot stuff you know like
things that you watch is just like no
not recommendable for for anyone you
know it's bad stuff is like a lot of
Tears you can lose your family you know
at why at one point I lost my family you
know I lost my friends I even you know
lost my country you know like you can be
like with nothing you know no money wow
we're going to take a break and then
we're going to talk about more of what
you found now thank you so much and how
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brother here you were involved in all of
the horrible things Dark Side You On the
Dark Side of Life with voids in your
heart how does the heart feel now uh
alhamdulillah now now I feel I feel
like sometimes people don't understand
again it's like I'm me another know like
I can see things in another dimension
you know I can see the beauty you know
even the people that I'm around you know
it's it's just something beautiful you
know that that that's something you just
don't understand you know it's like like
another dimension you know you can see
the beauty of this life you know back in
the day it was just like a zombie Sono
you know like a zombie you know like a
with no purpose you know just walking
around but no purpose yeah now uh what's
the difference for for our brothers and
sisters in it like some people get this
this feeling now they turn to let's say
worshiping Jesus who we love you know
you can't be a Muslim unless you love
and rear Jesus you actually you love
sharing now you know da you love uh
communicating and you know because we
care we share what do you tell people
who now they worship this Mighty
messenger that the Creator sent yes I
mean there there are there are many
things that that that are there that
they can devva and start worshiping you
know again I'm from a um Mexican you
know Catholic background you know and
you go back to to I go back to Mexico
you know and there's many Saints you
know many Saints for for for many things
you know but uh when people start
worshiping that you know they are
actually forgiving about the Creator you
know the Creator you know like they're
worshiping like the creation you know or
the stones or you know like statos or or
pictures or whatever you know there is
something above above that you know
sometimes our intellect cannot even
understand you know but is is there you
know so there are many deviations but
the the the one that that is worthy of
worship is the one who created
everything the day the the owner of the
day of judgment that's deep I mean
that's really profound only worshiping
the one who's worthy of worship and
that's the one who created everything
exactly the one who wasn't in anybody's
womb didn't uh no one gave birth to him
uh didn't walk to Earth he is all
knowledgeable all knowing and that's the
same one that Jesus peace be upon and
worship that's the Creator you're
worshiping exactly yeah there are there
are many Messengers there are many
prophets who came to the Earth who were
walking here in the Earth with the
message you know some of them they got
the Revelation you know yes we follow
the their teachings their Revelations
but we don't worship them when we
Muslims postrate the face in the ground
or or we bound we bound to the Creator
not to not to another person not even to
Prophet Muhammad s Ali wasallam yeah he
mess how do you say that in Spanish what
you just
said before that we when we put our head
to the ground we only worship the
Creator and
wow that's deep uh tell us have you had
some good interaction with other Latinos
now that you are one who's chosen his
way of life you have peace many people
they might be going in that direction
that you are in and you get a chance to
speak to them are they receptive to the
to the message yeah yeah I I think I
think uh uh Latinos are very close to to
to embrace Islam you know on some things
they don't even know you know but when
you talk to them when you ask them you
know even the teachings you know it's
very simp similar the way that they live
on and the way that we Muslim you know
like Real Islam you know uh and you know
even the way that they think sometimes
is like oh yes I believe in God you know
do you believe that Jesus is God no no
no no no sometimes they say no no no I
don't believe in the church I don't
believe in this I just believe in God
you know sometimes is is is is to D to
that point you know where they they
believe in in God so when you ask them
you know or when you to talk to to them
about Islam it's like you know it's like
I'm Catholic or I'm Christian but this
just for tradition you know this is how
I grew up you know when you UNG grab the
package when you explain them what is
Islam you know what Muslim we believe
you know then is when they start
understanding then is when the thoughts
and the actions start matching you know
but uh um they are very very um uh
receptive you know Latino we are very
receptive to to and that's why I mean
alhamdulillah is Islam is the fastest
growing religion and among the people
that are embracing Islam are the Latinos
you know among the Latinos usually
sisters are embracing Islam and we can
we can see in the in the communities you
know lot lot of women now also and
faster than men and there's that
misconception that Islam oppresses women
but why are they coming to Islam if it
oppresses them they're actually you know
uh doing opposite of what the media is
saying exactly exactly yeah alhamd now
now I'm able to to be be part of this uh
nonprofit organization it's called Uh
Islam in Spanish and I'm the one over
there in the chapter over there in in
Dallas Dallas for war area alhamdulillah
we are doing great things over there
Islam in Spanish Islam in Spanish uh
before we go tell us for for the young
or the old woman or man and they might
be preparing to go to the nightclub this
weekend uh this guy he's trying to you
know um lift a lot of weight so he can
you know be Mr mafioso he's trying to
live that life he wants to get the kilos
you know make the dough and they for
some reason they turn into the dean show
what would you tell
them that's a saying in Spanish that we
that we have whenever is your turn even
if you move out it's going to be your
turn but whenever is not your turn even
if you put in the situation is not going
to be your turn you know so just just to
use the example of of of many people
that were brought to light again you
know like many people ended up like like
people that I knew you know they got
killed you know uh people like like
really really really bad stuff you know
ended up in jail or killed or kidnapping
their moms you know to make them go go
with with them you know so there is
there is a Darkness over there that is a
darkness and and you know it's it's just
something that that that you don't need
to you don't need to you don't need to
taste it you know there is people that
we were already in that path you know
just o us like we are telling you that
if we already passed through that and
alhamdulillah we are able to go out just
just take it as an example you know
don't don't don't don't try yourself
because you can never go out you can end
up in prison you can end up killed or
your family killed or or doing something
you know doing something stupid
uh we're going to go in the last 10
seconds say that you know when someone
acknowledges that there's a purpose in
life and who best to tell me the one who
created life and then you make that
Proclamation
that can you say it in Spanish to show
how easy it is and then translate it go
ahead to be a Muslim sometimes there is
people that think that it's a ritual or
you know do something stuff but
but whenever some
you know accept Muhammad peace be upon
him as the messenger automatically he's
accepting all the messenger so that's
what basically what I'm saying in
Spanish is just to
acknowledge that's it worship the
Creator not the creation no saint of
death no messenger nobody in the middle
just your creator thank you so
much thank you for tuning in that was a
really exciting and a very touching
story and you got to learn some Spanish
also so for our Latino Brothers in
humanity the message God delivered to
you look into it you can see that
there's hope for everybody look there's
going to come a time when we all die
then it's too late like when the test is
over it rings Rings it's finished so
when the rattle of death comes and it
approaches up here it's coming out it's
ready the the soul is ready to come out
then it's too late but until then you
have time now you can either waste that
time and you're still empty inside
you're conscious is calling your heart
is calling for something more like you
can identify like what happened to our
special guest of this week that was the
Turning Point his life when he when he
put his head down and he asked the
crater alone for guidance and and that's
something that is just so simple but yet
many think it's some kind of like
confusing riddle but it it's it's so
simple that it's right in front of you
do what he did and what many who have
found purpose and peace ask the one who
created you directly to guide you start
with that and then you will start to see
the good that will come from that
request that you've made
but you'll see the negative things
Darkness upon Darkness going from this
club trying to imitate Chapo trying to
be like this gangster trying to live G
this kind of Lifestyle Wall Street
lifestyle trying to be the big
multi-millionaire billionaire with this
car that car now you a UFC champ and
you've got the ladies and the Honeys or
the the women out there and now you've
got a closet full of all sorts of jeans
and fashion is just your number one
priority in life but you're bust inside
you're bankrupt inside you are empty in
your heart like he was but now what was
the whole point you watch the show now
you can
see how you can get out of that empty
space out from that Darkness Into the
Light by doing something simple just
like he he did and God willing you can
have that gift that's priceless that
money can't buy and that's from that
mercy of the one who created you but you
got to ask for it and do it before
the time runs out because death is a
reality it will come and all of this
play and amusement is just distracting
us get with it get right with the one
who created you with God Almighty with
the law and everything will start to
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