here's the reality guys ready for it
Islam is taking over the world after I
converted I felt closer to Jesus than
when I was a Christian repeat that again
they're taking over the caliphate okay
hold on the caliphate that like well
there's white people in there there's
people at B don't even know how to wear
the freaking hijab with this new bill
once you threaten an American's Free
Speech you might as well have attacked
baseball so this bill is dangerous and
unconstitutional and wrong on every
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doing I have a exciting program for you
not only are we're going to be talking
with Sheik M Smith who's the author of
two really good books heart and mind
hearing becomes listening he's also a
former Baptist uh Catholic also and
people have been sending me at the same
time a lot of these clips that have been
recently coming out from the pbd podcast
you Islam is taking over the world pbd
uh because they know that uh we got to
meet uh Patrick B David had some good
things to say about him and now uh it's
quite a Twist now the direction that
they're they're going we're going to go
ahead and cover cover with our guests
some of the things that just came out I
want to thank um people who've been
sending me some of these uh for these
latest ones Omar Omar uh who's also a
fan of the pbd podcast for a lot of
Muslims that's changing now that's a big
demographic that patri got to really
think about that they're losing here so
let's get into this program Shake Mel
Mel Smith
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Allah and his final Messengers muhamad
peace be upon him this is our religion
Islam Islam this is the de show I love
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amazing amazing May and bless it insh a
mean alhamdulillah let's get right into
this clip how's that yeah let's look at
it let's take look waste any time get
straight into this and uh get some of
your feedback cuz you're an American
yeah yeah definitely uh you're also uh
you're former Baptist a Catholic so you
have a mix of both here and you're
umud yeah born bread and raised uh
American and at the same time you were
so in love intrigued by Islam you became
now somebody who's a teacher of Islam
right an academic in Islam yep yep um
been teaching um Islamic law T you know
uh breakdown of the of the Sunnah
breakdowns of the exegeses of the Quran
for a long time now and so um I mean I
accepted Islam over 20 years ago and
right away just went into study deep
study of it and so um let's take a look
at it so I want to just because some
people sometimes they can get past
certain things because now it's like
okay it's different from our culture but
let's say if we were sitting with a
priest the priest would have like you
know all black and he'd have a white uh
what is that called the um not sure uh
by the Thai here area yeah uh let's say
if you had who he had uh recently marar
the bishop okay okay got the Orthodox
thing outfit so how would you define uh
this oh this is a just a kind of
traditional Arabic kind of like thob um
with my koffy on the the koffy or the
head is kind of something that many
Muslims wear to represent their Islam
and um just kind of close to the way of
the Prophet a lot of people like to
address in that way and um you didn't
become Arab now did you lot of people
say oh you're Muslim you're Arab my name
is Michael Smith man Michael SM Michael
Smith as apple pie in baseball man
that's American right right and let's
get into this here's the reality guys
ready for it Islam is taking over the
world oh like right here okay pause it
right there I mean this this Islam is
taking over the world kind of narrative
it's it's it's an old narrative man it
goes orientalism back like way back this
kind of like make make Islam the monster
right make Islam evil make everyone
scared of it I mean it's a very old old
tactic um Islam doesn't have global
domination uh an agenda Islam wants to
show allow people to see the truth what
did the prophet peace and blessings be
upon Him teach what did all of the
prophets peace and blessings all the
prophets going all the way back to Adam
Jesus one of them I I often tell some
people and I don't want people to
misunderstand this I often tell people
that after I converted I felt closer to
Jesus than when I was a Christian repeat
that again okay so after you converted
to Isam I felt closer to Jesus why let
me say why because I felt as if
Christianity somebody pay you to say
that Noah bro this is just my heart man
I mean it it's when you objectively look
at what Islam is teaching you'll you'll
see what what I'm saying what I meant
was that um I I felt that Christianity
for me it was a religion about Jesus but
Islam was the religion of Jesus what did
he actually do how did he live I would
read verses of the Bible about how he
lived what he ate his diet his way of
prayer right and when I converted to
Islam this is over 20 years ago now um I
felt closer felt even closer felt even
closer right and that's deep you felt
closer to Jesus him yes yes as a Muslim
yes because it wasn't about worshiping
him it was it was about following a way
that he had laid down not making him the
objective of that right and that's what
people kind of have lost lost sight of
but let me get back to this video right
this kind of idea that Islam is taking
over it kind of puts people on guard
they don't want to objectively look at
it because you just made it evil you
made it something that's trying to take
no one wants to be taken over no matter
what it is so by saying Islam is taking
over um what does he mean most of them
they go down the route of you know
population Muslim families are typically
bigger you know the Western secular
model is kind of highlighting have one
kid and a dog you're good to go yes uh
our our friend Patrick he often is
repeat saying this that you need to have
more kids this the competition Muslims
are having so many kids they're going
well I mean I mean
is that's definitely the numbers are
there for sure like you can't deny the
fact good thing having families yeah
exactly because Islam the prophetic
model of our our Prophet Muhammad and
all of the prophets was a a model of
caring for the immediate family having a
a taking care investing in that next
generation and I think the
individualistic Society what happens is
it's all about my it's all about me what
am I going to accomplish having children
raising children takes a level of
sacrifice for from yourself right I'm a
father of three I understand it's just
not about my own progress It's about
investing in the progress of another
generation and the more children you
have that it becomes uh it's a challenge
like everyone knows so so this idea like
Islam is taking over I think right away
we can recognize he's he's putting
everyone in a defensive mode Islam is
taking over why because some kids were
praying on campus prayer on campus is
now a sign that Islam is taking over the
world um I I think there's a problem
with that uh let's Contin you on here
they've already taken over the Middle
East we've seen that they've taken over
Europe do you see what's going on in
France time out right here uh what does
that mean let's be specific what you
what are you saying happening in France
Germany like what are the specific
things you're just naming different
places what's happening in each of those
places so that we can discuss that right
that that's very important this is this
is the objection we have because uh
Patrick has my number and he had before
a Muslim and also Christian why don't he
be fair and come let's give some some uh
some opportunity to go ahead and debate
these things and have perspective
perspective some push back you know yes
definitely so I finished what you were
saying yeah no I'm just saying it's
abstract he's not giving us uh he's
saying this is happening everywhere what
what do you mean it's happening
everywhere right if we look at some of
the European countries that were most
heavily engaged in colonialism in the
early uh and the height of colonialism
now they're having a problem that these
the the places that they colonized are
coming back to their own home Homeland
you were the first ones colonizing
places you were the first spreading your
Empires across the world right and so uh
I think it's very interesting the
perspective he's taken let's keep going
in London in UK in Germany in the
Netherlands um all over Sweden all over
Europe they're taking over the caliphate
okay hold on the caliphate he's throwing
out buzzwords buzzwords literally just
throwing out buzzwords the caliphate
what what about it like can you explain
that you can't just throw out a word and
just expect I was like oh okay yeah the
caliphate what about it what are you
trying to say oh the pope oh the uh
exactly what I'm trying to say it's very
shallow it's very shallow yes but but
it's these buzzwords and now it just
creates people are just like okay it it
creates you know this uh this tens
tension yeah so here's my recommendation
to people my recommendation is to go and
talk to people face to face interact
with another human being that shares a
slightly different perspective with you
sit with them converse with them
understand them look into their eyes
this is our our our Prophet taught a
method of of dialogue a lot of my
research as you mentioned my two books
when hearing becomes listening and with
the heart and mind I speak about this
prophetic method of connection
regardless of who he was dealing with
the prophet Muhammad peace and blessings
be upon him he wanted an intimate
connection with people so as long as we
keep otherizing people we're never going
to have understanding between us right
this is deep this is we have to connect
and so so instead of listening to people
talk about other people why don't you go
and you yourself interact and meet them
let's talk man right why don't you go to
a campus and go there speak to them
explain like they have these things that
are called like listening SE sessions
which are pretty it's pretty interesting
right it's let us listen and hear your
perspective right let us and then let
let you should now listen to our
perspective and what happens is
sometimes we'll realize that there's so
much that we overlap in and truly agree
with and there may be Enlightenment that
happens on both sides yeah so you throw
out you know if you can go ahead I mean
and always um you throw out caliphate
for example what like you unpackaged
that what does that mean I you can think
uh what the the perception they're
trying to create again this tension this
negative World dominance World dominance
but hold on if you have you know khif if
you had at a time in Jerusalem when the
Muslims World under right Khalifa right
what happened didn't didn't Omar this is
what the third right he actually
repopulated Jerusalem with Jews Muslims
hate Jews he literally brought them back
after people who follow the other two
co-hosts with all due respect they're
Christian it was the Christians that
kicked out the Jews and said no this is
a no go Zone you cannot come here they
say the similar thing with Spain right
the similar thing that it was Muslims
that were helping the Jews of of andalo
at the time under the KH cff but again
when you're just throwing out a buzzword
you're just throwing it's it's it's your
you're lobbing it up there in the air
and hoping people take the most negative
meaning um without any depth of true
true understanding yeah that that's not
being um it's not fair it's not AC Fair
absolutely not and it's and I'm going to
say it again it's it's shallow we're not
going deep here disingenuous yeah yes
talking about I have much love to the
moderates let's stop here let's stop
here he has much he can't he for the
moderate stop it the moderate is is
interesting because it's I'm okay with
you
if you fit my definition of what Islam
is so you technically now he's like
where are the moderates like so you are
you to moderate to who so so what does
that mean that means I don't pray five
times a day that means I don't care
about my brothers and sisters in
Palestine who uh a genocide is happening
what what is moderate to you again it's
a word that doesn't have depth to it
because it's not defined yeah right and
so we're the moderates whoever we put up
he'll point and be like oh he's not
moderate right and so wait what does
that even mean moderate what are we
talking about what does that mean Are
there specific issues that there's an
extreme stance on for sure are there
issues that there can be a a lenient
stance on them in the community yes but
what are those issues and what do you
mean by where are the moderates at right
do you mean what does that mean someone
not practicing is that Mo moderate to
you so that would be if you were there
if you were there right now these are
the questions you'd ask and then now you
can go ahead and develop some kind of
understanding you can get educated you
can push back you can go back and forth
and and go ahead and I always say we're
an open book talk to us talk about us
talk to us and and if we look at if we
look at the vast majority or all of
those protesting from the Muslim
Community in the encampments around the
country today these are these are
non-violent protests these are moderate
Muslims if if my understanding of the
word moderate these are people who love
Humanity they love their Muslim brothers
and sisters they're tired of um
unchecked uh milit istic aggression
against a defenseless population um and
they they're they're upset that the
people's just turning a blind eye and
letting history repeat itself and so um
that word moderate to me so let's let
let's listen to him for a bit uh much
love to the moderate Muslims out there
respect to you but where are they but
speak up because when you when you say
you could talk about be anti-semitic and
anti-jewish and nothing happens and it's
totally cool I think in this sense
because it's Israel that from what I'm
seeing from the setup from ch and Soros
but I mean if Kanye anybody else all
these people mention anything about you
know Jews Run the World they get
canceled so you can't say no that it's
not right they don't get cancelled no
what do you mean Kanye they're
corporations that chose to do business
with them yeah so so this is quite
interesting I mean the other person is
kind of pushing back that um we've
already had a a a culture in America in
the west of um the cultural you know
stigma or the the evil of speaking
against any demograph in a derogatory
way especially against the Jewish
population and what he's saying here is
pretty deep it's like wait there was
already a status quo of being
anti-semitic speaking straight up
against one demograph specifically the
Jewish community in a derogatory way um
uh you were already getting canceled for
that so I think he's leading the way
towards this this bill that came which
kind of redefines anti-Semitism
completely um and then the push back is
now oh you're not cancelled for speaking
against Israel it's just follow the
money your corporation you know cut you
off but I think he's pushing back saying
there was already a standard we already
had a general understanding in America
of uh what it meant to be anti-s be
anti-semite right so um again let's keep
listening but I think what he's pointing
out there is there was we already
understood that but here's the problem
they're changing they're moving the
goalpost what what's happening now is a
redefinition of anti-Semitism to be
synonymous with a criticism of the
government policies of a country that
doesn't make sense yeah if a we should
all be able to objectively criticize if
a country is doing something wrong and
to just label it as anti-Semitism to
truly criticize and to question whether
something is ethically right or wrong no
one is right just because of who they
are it's about the actions it's about
what you're doing as a country as a
nation your policy towards another
people that judges whether you are right
or wrong no one has a monopoly on truth
and everyone should be subject to be
questioned why are you guys uh
committing genocide why are you wiping
out a population of defenseless people
what's going on what's the reason for
that so now you're going to end up
getting labeled if you question now
because the slogan was never again right
so now we're seeing something happen
here a holocaust this is happening you
know right before you know kids pulling
out body parts right where's your uh
love of Jesus and his way which he's
talking about love your neighbor love
love love blessed are the police makers
and people were like Candace Owens
you've heard of her when she speaks out
she gets canned now fired yeah so other
Christians also start to you know see
that this is not the teachings of love
and you know when you have Carl Tucker
coming on and he brings on the
Palestinian Christian out there yep did
you see that yeah and he's call they're
calling us out like yep see I I think
we're seeing the Awakening though
especially with this new bill once you
threaten an American's Free Speech you
might as well have attacked baseball so
this bill is dangerous and
unconstitutional and wrong on every
level right like you cannot go after
free speech in America right and people
are seeing it for what it is people are
now questioning that we're not
questioning before there were many of us
that already understood this right but
people are questioning now how much the
political contributions are contributing
to the these these politicians
formulating their opinions um they're
not principled they're just following
the money you have a Matt Walsh from
what is a woman you've heard him he's
also from isra wire or daily wire
declaring aspects of the Bible hate
speech yeah so he was also coming out he
was on the same network or media with um
kace Owen
of the
Beno and so he's coming out he's someone
who's a Advocate like many Conservative
Christian just Americas like you said
this is like baseball right Free Speech
but it's eroding now yeah because of
lobbying because of what uh certain
people's uh State interest that you
cannot even criticize a foreign
country in a in a way that I I honestly
feel like some ways that the bill does
more harm to the people you're trying
they're trying to protect then good
because the average American when they
look at the threatening of free speech
is now following that chain back like
whoa what just happened how did did did
a foreign country's Lobby have so much
power in our Congress right and and and
it could have a negative impact for what
they're actually trying to do right um
just just just how the average American
conservative Americans and even from
across the aisle are like wait how are
they how is another country having so
much impact on the policies that we're
we're we're implementing menting here
and then uh to see let's get to the root
of the matter here because now the
narrative is that okay if uh certain
people Palestinians or other Muslims had
their way we're trying to protect
ourselves from them but now you in
studying I mean so you went from being a
Baptist Christian Catholic and obviously
you put it on the line I mean your
family you got to go against the odds
you know a lot of challenges Pro I mean
you wanted obviously the truth and the
belief in one and only one God being
morally upright the Quran it's a
preserved book anyone who comes at it
with a sincere heart we'll see this is
from the creator of the heavens and
earth it's a continuation of the message
of Esa Jesus the continuation of the
message of Jesus and Moses and Abraham
same way of life now you are convinced
and now you've been studying Islam for
20 years in that studying of 20 years is
Islam teaching you to hate Jews not at
all come on not at all you just say come
on like it's a joke man that's what
people don't realize like it's it's
almost laughable when people who have
actually spent time around Muslims let
alone someone who's had the privilege
and honor of studying deeply uh uh um um
Islamic law and Islamic scripture for
the last you know 15 years of my life
I've been a teacher of these things so
for me as you said it's almost laughable
and I I I don't mean to patronize anyone
or laugh but um this idea that there is
any type of hate for Jews or hate for
Christians and Islam
um is quite interesting because this the
Quran speaks so much about this term the
people of the book right in in a in a in
in in a way that they're so close to
Islam right having the tradition of
other prophets of course we believe in
the finality of the prophethood of
Muhammad peace and blessings be upon him
we believe that his message abrogates
the previous messages but continues in
the theme of monotheism and Devotion to
God um but this this kind of World
dominance view of Islam having this
alter lowkey
agenda it's it's it's it's it's funny
it's just laughable and and what's not
funny about it Lok key is the uh number
of people that uh are just influenced by
such shallow dialogue like we're
witnessing here and so my recommendation
to those people kill all mosquitoes in
the area in just go ahead yeah my
recommendation to such people is what I
said earlier I think if they truly had
dialogue with the Muslims around around
them and there are Muslims around them
if they truly had dialogue with Muslims
around them and not been spoonfed from
these uh click ba things then they'd
realize like wait that guy I know Ahmed
down the street my dentist or my doctor
or you know the guy in the Uber who's
driving me like that's the true
representation often of what Islam is
not this right here it's such a strange
relationship because you have our our
friend Patrick he's got his uh two cohol
three actually three I believe are a
Christian so you're sitting next to
someone if he's following his religion
also and this is with with no um
disrespect I mean these are just fact
just look it up I mean you have um here
us as Muslims we say Jesus peace be upon
we love we actually love Jesus this is
the ironic thing what you're saying is
so deep go ahead but then you got over
here this person who's bashing Islam but
he's got to do tea that they accuse
Muslims of there's no such thing this is
a Shia concept of a certain branch of sh
so we're people who are taught to be
honest upright I to a strict moral code
so here if he's going to actually
imagine your co-host is someone who if
he's following tenants of uh J he hates
Jesus right he thinks that but now you
can't say that you can't say that but
but that's what it actually says that's
the text right listen to this this is
from the talmud and this is where Jesus
Christ our Lord and savior is being
boiled in hot excrement like you can't
deny what's there but now this is
interesting because they don't want us
talking about that's the thing now
that's what's so interes shut down the's
crazy what's crazy about our tradition
is U without going deep into the history
there was a moment when the early Muslim
Community they migrated to U abisinia uh
in order to flee the persecution they
were going through which was a Christian
country and they were they were
questioned about what they believe in
Jesus and uh Jaffer who was the cousin
of the Prophet peace and blessings be
upon Him may Allah be pleased with them
all of the companions of of the prophet
he gave this beautiful speech about who
Jesus was um and it left the Christian
priest in that Gathering history tells
us weeping and and and awing and the
beauty in which and the reverence with
which Islam speaks about
Jesus say of the birth of our dear Lord
Jesus Christ in the name of God most
gracious most
merciful relate in the book The Story of
Mary how she withdrew from her family to
a place in the
East how we sent to her our Angel
Gabriel who
said I am a messenger from your God to
announce the birth of a holy son to you
she said how shall I Mary have a son
when no man has touched
me and Gabriel
replied for your Lord
says it will
happen we appoint him as a sign unto man
and a mercy from us
about um about Jesus right peace and
blessings be upon him um that is truly
what's in our book that is what's in our
history we love
isaam Jesus um but again what you're
saying is so important and people are
sleeping on this that um what does the
scriptures of other um the talmud and
different things what does it actually
say about who Jesus was listen to this
this is from the talud and this is where
Jesus Christ our Lord and savior is
being boiled in hot excrement as a
punishment for mocking the words of the
of the rabbis it's not really nice we're
actually saying his name correctly what
do you have j s us if you take the J
because in the semetic languages you
didn't have that J in front of the E
right that wasn't even the his name yeah
so you would have take the J off you
have esus how would you pronounce it
without the J es s s ah yes that's
beautiful what do you have never noticed
that wow isas yeah Isa yeah we love Issa
Jesus let's go to this next uh clip here
this is the original one that was sent
and then this one came out all this
stuff is developing yeah and then uh
this is with the protest that's
happening and Free Speech being eroded
there was a video you showed me about in
UCLA what were they doing in UCLA see uh
so um yeah there was a a bunch of
protesters uh that were hundreds of
students converting to Islam and
participating in an Islamic call to
prayer used to lay on the lawn uh I send
it to Rob uh uh okay let's stop for a
moment
okay first of all we could talk about
the aspect of whether it's accurate or
not and we could talk about that but
before that here's the question so what
religious freedom what like from an
American perspective the right to to
religion the right to believe what you
want to believe but again we're not it's
a double standard so what if a lot of
people are accepting Islam that's part
of American what it means to be American
we were bounded on religious freedom
right but how it's demonized see that
how it's demonized but here's the other
thing I show you that's not probably
what happened what happened is these a
lot of people inter Faith they see
muslims praying people participate
people participate oh I'll pray with the
Muslims right did they all convert I
mean what's the reality of that but
again just number one making it like oh
hundreds of people are converting we're
taking over again what's the narrative
take over take over take over put
everyone in defense fear
fear what does that lead to violence
violence now second of all so the first
thing is so what second of all that's
probably not even what happened they
were defending Muslims who were praying
right and and Muslims were praying Juma
their Friday prayer they're they we pray
five times a day of course we're going
to pray like that's what a Muslim does a
moderate Muslim prays like that's what
we do we pray um and people sometimes
join us what's what's the big deal like
how come this is worth noteworthy that's
what I want to know why is this
noteworthy unless you're creating a
narrative that the point of all of this
is to take over America with Islam again
and I feel like we're back in the like
early 2000s I don't know like what's
going on yeah with Sharia coming to get
you the Boogey Man what do we make up
Muslims are like 1% % what is it of Amer
yeah I don't know the numbers exactly
but it's absurd not even yeah but uh if
you just I like def finding word so if
if if what he said now and he seemed
like a nice guy when I met him also and
um if you define the word Islam if you
say Okay um um people students are are
converting to or converting to people
are accepting submission to the will of
God because Technic and having peace
because that's what Islam literally
means doesn't it peace IR ired by
submitting your will to the will of God
yeah what he means is they're changing
their worldview to becoming a Muslim
worldview and that's problematic for the
West this is age-old orientalism again
but the same show was actually aligning
right they were bringing on Andrew tabib
and the whole thing with a man could be
a woman a woman be a man and they were
really like they were liking that Islam
was the last stronghold with all of the
sexualization of children the moral code
of Islam now it's kind of why it changed
it's changing because the world global
Community has now woken up awakened to
the
realization that what Israel is doing in
Palestine is
genocide and so now we can't at all show
any softness we have to go to our other
allies right we have to just defend them
tooth and nail and um we need to the
Quran says and I I'll re I'll read the
Arabic and then translate it that's okay
yeah
absolutely Allah subhana T tells us
Believers and this is what we should
strive to be that um be people who stand
up to Justice Witnesses for God even if
it be against yourself and what that
means is the truth is the truth
regardless of who does it they need to
be called out for it what is happening
on in Philistine right now Rafa Raza
what's happening there is a genocide
these are defenseless people the strong
one of the strongest world's militaries
is wiping out a population just call it
what it is sleep good at night go
realize that you spoke truth in a tough
moment right it doesn't matter who does
it here's the crazy part the thing
people are having trouble with is that
the victims in World War II are now the
oppressive Nation not all I am by no
means saying all what I'm saying is that
this state that was created as a result
of World War II are now the perpetrators
of Injustice and people have to be
strong enough to go you were oppressed
but now what you're doing is wrong you
don't have the standard of Truth just to
be with you because of who you are MH by
no means and I don't want to be
misquoted so I'm saying Again by no
means am I saying those people who were
who were massacred in World War II this
is an evil evil that happened sure
undoubted evil that happened by no means
am I saying those exact people of course
right there's is Generations later but
um wherever oppression happens whoever
is the one doing wrong the Quran is
teaching us even if you're doing wrong
St you're wrong so even if our
friends the Quran and that same verse
says if it be your close brother if it
be your own parents what we want is to
stand next to truth and right now the
objective eye if they truly look look
Let me Give an
example um they were looking into um uh
different potential war crimes that are
happening in Philistine and White House
Representatives were being asked by
reporters um you know hey we need
someone to look into this who's looking
into it and the white house uh you know
press uh reporter was saying yeah we're
asking Israel to give us more details
and the reporters are dumbstruck they're
saying you're asking the
accused to investigate themselves and
they just kept repeating the same thing
um and it there's just the double speak
is so clear now so for the people that
missed this this is just like the person
who's accused of murder of rape or
whatnot and then the prosecutor says let
let him investigate himself and bring us
his findings if he's guilty or not it's
absurd and what I think people are doing
they realize it but the average American
realize it and then they're just kind of
getting on with life like oh okay yeah
there's just cognisance cognitive
dissonance that's happening right and
what these protests are trying to force
is that there is no cognitive dissonance
realize what's happening answer the
question like what is is what this
nation is doing to this population of
defenseless people is this is this right
you know do are you okay with this are
you okay with your tax dollars funding
this when we have so many domestic
problems yes so many domestic problems
but billions of dollars due to a loyalty
but our loyalty should be to truth and
Justice and what's right and wrong and
and every pundit is getting caught in
double speak they know it I don't
understand how they look in the
mirror hypocrisy then you have
Palestinians who are saying had nothing
against Jews if it was all my own
brother stealing my home if it was a
Muslim stealing my land I'd be against
him also yep just like any American yep
who came over yep or you know stealing
uh someone came the migrants or whoever
coming from a plane uh boat whatever
from me Mexico this place that place
started you know taking over your house
yeah you know what I think's happening
though on a deeper level I think like
the evangelicals have for a long time
long time well before October 7th have
been pushing a narrative that we that
the Evangelical sector should love the
cause of Israel um because if they get
their job done Jesus comes back right
there's a there's a conf yeah that's the
engineering of prophecies like yeah like
this whole it's a so it's really
interesting when you talk to but I want
to speak on a positive note for a moment
I was U you know we had a group chat a
zoom call last week and there were a
number of prominent uh Christian
africanamerican Christian priests
pastors deacons B uh you know uh
religious leaders who are all in all of
their churches uh uh preaching and
talking about the plight of philistine
openly yes openly so we're seeing a
shift people are realizing like people
with eyes see they're seeing what's
going on um yeah this is that uh when I
had a Christian senior pastor he broke
down this
dispensationalism the Rapture and
scoffield Bible I want people to look
into this so you had the Cyrus skolfield
he was a con man and he got these
teachings from uh John Nelson Darby
these outside really far extreme
teachings from Christianity okay and
then he took these and he started
preaching on people like and times
prophecies and whatnot then he got
funded by the Zionist American
organization they took him to the UK
Oxford printing press printed the
scoffield Bible and now you have the
exegesis of certain verses that are
they're connecting them to this modern
state of isra you heard about that
million copies for free then you had the
late great planet Earth and other series
40 million copies so the pastor is
telling us that this was a well-funded
effort to go ahead and push this
propaganda through the Skyy Scofield
bible now the Christian who's all about
love love love and love your neighbor
love for Humanity Jesus Prince of Peace
and all this stuff now he's led to
believe programmed to believe that this
is part of their AA this is part of
their belief to support this when
actually it's not for the first 1800
years of Christianity didn't exist so
this is a new phenomenon that's
happening so hopefully our Christian
friends and neighbors can go investigate
this and they can start speaking out
also because you actually have more
zionists than you Christian zionists and
now they're trying to engineer this
whole uh virgin cow the heer the red cow
to take over MH AKA and you know about
this right I'm deep yeah it's really
interesting let's go ahead and uh let it
play and then um yeah oil under is a big
oil GI he loves oils is that like well
there's white people in there there's
people that by don't even know how to
wear the freaking hijob guys not time
out stop here I it's even painful you're
getting frustrated yeah there's white
people what does that mean yeah so
they're they're very shallow it's almost
that because that insinuates that this
is an Arab this is for brown black
people what do white people I'm actually
like anyone with a slight level of
intelligence is like what is is what is
white what is black in Islam like are
there I don't even know where to start
I'm so sorry it's just because there's
white people there do you know what
Palestinians look like do you know what
uh people from Lebanon Syria look like
have you seen this is again the I'm
telling people to meet people because
when you see a redhaired filistini
Palestinian kid you're going to be like
oh wow right when you see this that
there's white people that's such an uh
uh Bosnia uh the countries that are
Eastern European the brother who sent me
this video he's from uh he's a he's from
Syria he looks white that's like that
this is so shallow this is so like
bottom feeder like like people bottom
feeder bottom feeder like there's white
people there like come on come on guys
come on come do better than that these
are muslims
praying they're telling them not to
muslims praying what's the deal and it's
funny look the white white people just
sitting there they have no idea what's
going on what is this they're praying
they're praying I don't have a problem
with that no no but some look you notice
he has to bance some people the white
people that are just there that by the
way you know what I would say you know
what I would say here's what I would say
Christians why don't you go pray as well
oh yeah they'll you'll never see Chris
who whoa hold on what does he mean by
that he so here you see the main host
kind of in a tough place cuz he realized
how shallow what the guy is saying like
the footage they're showing shows
nothing it shows people sitting down
watching Muslims pray so it praying like
Jesus actually yeah so that's a whole
another Matthew 26:39 and he went a
little further fell on his face and
prayed to God Jesus prayed like this you
should be praying like remember when I
told you like when I converted I felt
closer to Jesus than before that's what
I was talking about these verse about
how how he washed before he prayed
anyway so it's that's a whole another
discussion but again the one host is
trying to make this look so scandalous
and the main host actually realizes like
what are we we're not seeing anything
we're seeing other non-muslims sitting
watching Muslims pray how can we make
this a big deal and then now he switches
it to why don't you Christians go pray
let's finish listening that because I
want to see what he means by go go
pray why don't you go on campus and pray
so what this to me is an El of
competition switched the switch the he
switched the goal post he switched what
do you mean meaning like the one guy
wasn't talking about that he was talking
about Islam taking over and now the
other host he sees that's a dead end cuz
it's like there's nothing there so now
he switching the direction he goes well
they're better than you now look how
they're praying more than you you should
be praying too uhhuh wait I I thought
you guys brought the video up to show
Islam taking over yeah and now that it's
switching a Direction to what started
with the boogeyman coming to get you
yeah now it's like oh they're better
than you you need to pray too why are
you just sitting there okay I guess that
what we're talking about now okay you're
catching these things problem they're
simply out praying you five times to one
they're out praying you like you
wouldn't believe I don't have a problem
with this everything that ever becomes
big that does well they they are better
at rituals they're better at Traditions
they're better at those things whether
it's last names companies Rel religions
cultures all of that when I see
something like this and I say okay guess
what yeah I don't know where he's going
right now he's just talking yeah okay so
um um let's uh almost out of time so
what do we um what's in summary what
summary here's here's what what what I'm
going to say to my um my fellow
countrymen um my message is go across go
out of your comfort zone and and meet
other people have dialogue with people
talk to other Muslims don't take your
understanding of other people through
these sources that's not that's not how
you learn who who humanity is who who
people are um in every city across the
country there are Muslims Who Um can
talk to you and explain explain where
these encampments are there are people
there who are giving time of their week
sitting in these places because they
believe so passionately go sit there
talk to them just understand um um
so the Quran speaks about coming
together and and talking to one another
and I truly believe that if we put our
biases aside and we objectively look at
the loss of 35 to 40,000 lives majority
of which are women and children in the
ongoing Onslaught I think we can come to
a conclusion that these people who are
already under Decades of
oppression and colonialization and
apartheid this is what the reality was
that now it's gone up to a level of
genocide talk to other people that
understand these things and you'll don't
listen to these things because they
don't really give you a fair
representation of what the other side is
saying and so my message to people is
open your eyes look at uh uh these these
bills that are being formulated and
trying to be passed it's only been
through the house I don't think it's
gone through the Senate yet so it still
has to be pushed through the Senate and
stuff but um realize how much lobbying
and money is playing into our our our
our country's trajectory um and just
wake up wake up they're fooling you
you've been duped and you are we we're
getting to see this live now you're
going to give up all of your most of
your constitutional rights now because
of the fear of a a boogeyman Islam
coming to get you so now they're pushing
this and you need and and the show is
based on a lot of the principles of the
Constitution that they talk about you
know when they were talking about their
they were criticizing when people were
going out there shutting down the speech
of one who's advocating for there to be
a wa a washrooms that a man can't go
into a a woman's washroom and people are
speaking out they're shutting it down
the the the um the Democrats and whatnot
but now you're shutting down free speech
when people are just with Humanity on
these are Jews also who are speaking out
yeah uh you also Christians important to
talk about yeah Christians are certain
Christians who are not uh brainwashed
with this whole cyberus scoffield uh
Theology and whatnot they're speaking
out and they're saying this is wrong you
know this is we also if it was innocent
Jewish children or Christian children
Islam calls us to stand up against this
we we don't have a problem condemning it
why do you have a problem condemning it
meaning why why
yep I I'm 100% everything you're saying
is exactly spot on we will condemn this
you know it what one thing I know we're
going to wrap it up but one thing I find
interesting is one of the things that I
read was in that bill was this saying
that the Jews killed Jesus right now
there's another example in the list
that's gotten some attention it's the it
is uh that it's anti-semitic to claim
that uh Jews killed Jesus that's what
the IH says but that is not a claim
invented by anti-semites that's in the
gospel
and and and I saw a congressman try to
uh you know uh walk it back that oh to
say all Jews and stuff like that um and
and what's interesting here what's
interesting in this moment is when it
comes to Jesus May the peace and
blessings of God be upon Him Muslims
deeply love venerate respect I don't
know what else to say we love Jesus he's
in our book there's so much positive of
course we don't believe he's the son of
God but he's a prophet of God and now
the Jewish we're talking text now text
the Jewish talmud says very clearly like
this is not this is factual data but now
we can't say that anymore if this bill
is passed we can't say that it's like
opening the Quran and saying here that
um uh that there's a chapter named after
U meet jesus' mother it's factual it's
there it's there it's chapter 19 of the
Quran right it's there the chapter of
Mary of Mary the mother of Jesus we're
not hiding it there go look what it says
so so what's happening now is the part
of their their their belief system which
would make a should make a Christian
unsettled is being forbidden to be said
anymore do you understand where I'm
going with this whereas whereas that is
actually what they believe they don't
like Jesus quite frankly right like they
they did not right and that's where
they're going to say well you can't say
that now because you're you're painting
a wide brush on everyone okay
historically a group of Jews were the
ones who killed or attempted to kill
Jesus right and their talmood speaks in
a negative light of him that is factual
data and the Muslims just factual data
no spin here guys the Muslims love Jesus
and the Virgin Mary Mother of Jesus
that's just factual data can you say
without a doubt that it is
anti-islam to be anti-jewish
of of course because because yes and and
I'll give evidence like you correct me
if I'm wrong right you've been teaching
for 20 years because Jesus Moses um by
ethnicity they were Jews right but by
faith they were ones who submitted their
will to God so they were Muslim so to be
anti Jewish is to be what anti Mary
anti- Jesus uh to be anti-semitic anti
Palestinian Arabs and Palestinians are
semetic people let me let me answer your
question more direct on you asked me is
it anti-islam to be anti-jew and I'll
say this straightforward unequivocally
very clearly when Prophet Muhammad
arrived in Medina there was a community
of Jews already living there yes he
formed a treaty with them and he called
Medina Charter yes he called us
all now in English that means we are one
nation One Nation that's our Prophet
doing goes one nation under God it's in
our books before The Constitution that
is really profound
deep he's in it says it clear we are so
long that we uphold Justice and we are
not treacherous and we do not break the
Covenant We Are All One Nation the
problem is not Judaism come on the
problem is colonialism and Zionism this
is my right to take this land from you
that's the issue that's the problem the
god-given right that this is mine that
feeds into that white supremacy stuff
too right so again um I hope that our
listeners I hope I'm not preaching to
the choir you know I'm hope that there
are people from different do
denominations that listen to this and
and find it within themselves to you
know dialogue with other Muslims and get
a Fair View and perspective and to not
be spoonfed by this um bottom feeder
cont
this is not deep stuff this is not
academically sound it's not deep they're
just throwing stuff in literally you
know they you know they you throw
something on the wall see if it sticks
that's what's Happening Here Yeah and
unfortunately I'm looking at the view
count how many thousand 880,000 people
just sat there and listen to someone
throw stuff on the wand see if it sticks
and you could have spent that time
talking to an actual human being come
visit the Muslim come to the MOs come
you can call us 1800 662 4752 we got a
hotline you can go and ask questions
before we conclude also you as a Baptist
Christian also a Catholic and now also
one of the talking points that they like
to mention is that now someone who they
make this uh subtle and sometimes even
direct that if someone accepts Islam if
you're someone who's supporting or your
humanity is on and you don't want to see
babies dying that somehow you're
anti-america you're and you now Michael
Smith now that you've accepted Islam are
you like anti-American are you you are
you like against your country the spirit
of America has always been the ability
to challenge what's happening on all
levels um it's not unamerican to
question laws being passed it's not
unamerican to exercise Free Speech free
religion um it's that's not unamerican
that is what America is about diversity
about difference about saying no you
know what that's wrong what's what's
American Rosa Park sitting on a bus
saying I'm not moving that's American
right civil rights that's American we're
because we we we our country is supposed
to allow that demonstration of no
they're not going to just stifle that
and push it down so um what does it mean
to be an American if you guys think you
have a monopoly on what it means to be
America be American um I just think you
haven't got on the ground and walked
through the inner cities of Philadelphia
and New York and different places and
seen the diversity that exists um I
think that yes we may be against certain
aspects of what you think it means to be
American right uh but but that's not you
don't have a monopoly on what it means
to be American straight up we want the
best I I mean I love my country America
you might not agree with certain I don't
agree that now A man should go in a
woman's bathroom I mean was that
American no but now we have free spee
now we're going to according to the law
within comp with with what's permitted
we're going to go and speak out against
certain certain evils that now people
have uh have started uh to evolve to do
immorality and whatnot you go back at a
certain point in time in America you
would not see where like the cohost
sorry with all due respect you know
someone who's uh you know uh there's not
low blow or anything but you see like
people it's a hypocrisy when you see
someone you know we're pushing family
values and you got people who are you
know pushing out they promoting old fan
girls right uh promiscuity you know all
these things now is that American so
when Muslims speak up and say look like
you remember you watch some of these old
F films like um where you'd have the
father
if the two were coming together the
father's in the back and marriage was
more promoted right yes definitely this
is Islamic this is a this was a part of
America at one time right and I think
that's where they agree with one more
thing you had in Chicago here you had at
one point you had tickets being issued
if you were not properly dressed at the
beach wow that was in Chicago you can
see the men wearing tank tops and the
women also not being you know well even
until today there's something called
indecent exposure indecent exposure it
just keeps we can go deeper into it but
right there's a there's a idea yeah I
mean that's another Rabbit Hole to talk
about but the idea of like there's a
level of Shame at some level the fact
that there are laws on indan exposure
shows that we understand as a human
being that there's some level of
exposure that is too much but all that
changes is over time that standard
changes but you already have laws that
there's a such thing as indecent so
decency indecent these are relative
terms that kind of
you who gave you the right not to
monopolize now you are holding out
what's American what's not and who's
American who's not and what not yeah so
that's see these CH what's the hard part
is the the people he's showing in those
videos praying these college students
young Muslim these are third gener
sometimes third generation Americans
right they that's why a lot of this goes
back to uh immigration too uh a lot of
it goes back to
xenophobia right A lot of it goes back
to xenophobia because as we see the
rates of um uh the family growth rates
uh what's the that's the term I'm sorry
but the the rate at which uh certain
demograph are reproducing is outweighing
is is is outstretching the rate of
reproduction in or in other demograph
right and so there's a threat people
feel threatened right but there's
nothing to be afraid of like that's what
we have to understand that's what we
have to talk about tell tell us what was
it finally you fell closer to Jesus
Michael Smith former Christian obviously
now what was it at the end that finally
had you accept submission to the will of
the Creator not the creation oh man well
this is Islam I know we're at the end of
our show here so I'm going to give the
short version of it um I honestly and I
don't mean to uh offend anyone but I
have always felt as I was studying
Christianity that it was rather
confusing the nature of God was
confusing trity the Trinity and the
nature of who Jesus was um I find a lot
of double speak when they uh people say
Lord they say attach Lord to Jesus
Christ or they pray to Jesus Christ I
think people some people will outright
say he is God no he's the son of God and
know there's a lot of haziness there
even among certain Dem uh uh
denominations of what the nature of
Jesus was um and I felt as I studied
Islam that it was just crystal clear
crystal clear who Jesus Jesus was who
God was who prophets were and the role
and function that they served um and uh
as a Muslim we worship one God we
believe in all the prophets the prophets
come and give us a message we follow
that message to the tea because that's
what the prophets brought us it's a
struggle some days you're weaker some
days you're stronger um but that's the
struggle of life to be upright and um
for me I'll say it was the Quran um I I
read the Quran Quran and it just spoke
to me it was familiar to me it was
familiar but clarifying right familiar
but clarifying um I I converted right
after September 11th and I I I I think
one thing that helped me a lot there
wasn't a lot of internet at that time I
don't remember it way back in the day um
and I just dealt with people I talk to
people I read the Quran myself I talked
to people um and um yeah that's pretty
much it uh that's pretty much it what
advice would you you have for Patrick uh
Ben David really I mean he he had uh a
lot of Muslim f a lot of Muslims are are
feeling very um disrespected the Islam
is being disrespected I mean if khabib
you know hearing somebody's things who's
he's out on what advice would you have
for him uh so he can be more fair and
balance and he doesn't end up creating
more resentments within the Muslim
Community I I don't I don't know him I
haven't really listened to a lot of his
stuff to be honest um to all
seemed like a very nice man to all
influencers uh who have a platform and
yes I say to them be upright be upright
be honest honest be be be um be honest
be honest and don't worry about the
money and I'm not saying he is yeah but
a lot of time there's pressure because
where will my kids kids get food from
right and I'm not saying he is I don't
know him so this is not at all an attack
on him I don't know the man at all but a
lot of times times our pocketbooks and
the impact financially is what's going
to determine who's on who's on shows
who's speaking what narratives are going
and um when you speak
truth uh it's going to be difficult
speaking truth they say when Martin
Luther King before he was
assassinated his popularity rate was so
low who Martin Luther King J Martin Lu
Martin Luther King his popularity rate
was so low
despite that despite now we look back
and we there's a holiday for him wow
right what if you're searching for likes
and attention sometimes Muhammad Ali
same thing exactly so what I'm trying to
say is um there has to be a moral uh
compass that is focused on God and
focused on my responsibility for God and
that one day I'm going to stand before
God and be questioned about everything
that I said and sometimes speaking the
truth is not going to be advantageous to
your sponsors to this to that to that
and the third but um at the end of the
day we're all going to stand before God
and be questioned about what we did
thank you thank you for uh helping us to
go over this latest developments with
this hope people they can benefit of
this and most importantly the people
viewing and they can get a different
perspective no it's amazing I love it my
my research my book that I have written
when hearing becomes listening and with
the heart and mind they're all about the
prophetic the prophetic model of it
connecting with people and how important
it is to connect with one another and so
when we see everyone uh um uh polarizing
more than ever we need to come together
and understand each other those two
books are heart uh with the heart and
mind with the heart and mind and when
hearing becomes listening and where can
people get those books Google will come
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will continue to go ahead and have this
dauntless persistence to relaying the
truth to helping people understand the
truth and the truth shall set you free
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do he read the Quran so people really
promote
uh being someone who is sound in their
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