I got my brother Steve here and now
we're going to give you the breakdown
hoist Gracie in the fight Shamrock he
wants three I was there for the first
two yeah I I was Ho's uh conditioning
cuts for this first
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Men's Journal is one of the top 100
trainers in the US he's been training
over half a century that's more than
plenty of you have been living he was a
former strength and conditioning coach
for hoist Gracy started training Gracie
Brazilian Jitsu before the UFC that's
why I've got my rash guot on and I'm
ready to go ahead and throw my ghee on
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thean Steve Maxwell my friend how are
you excellent great to be here in sunny
Chicago thank you for being with us here
on the dean show so again I said that's
that's uh that's more than people
probably have been living uh half a
century that's I started as a
10-year-old boy in my father's basement
in a little town called Carlile
Pennsylvania and I forgot to mention
that you were one of the first gra SE
Jujitsu certified by the gra sees to
have your Academy in the US well when
when we first started out of course
Brazilian jiujitsu was completely
unknown there like 89 90 you would say
Brazilian jiu-jitsu and people would say
well Jiu-Jitsu Japanese no no Brazilian
jiu-jitsu yeah but it's Japanese they
just couldn't wrap their mind around the
idea of Brazilian jiu-jitsu and it was
totally unheard of until after the UFC
of course MH but um after the UFC hit of
course it was an explosion of everyone
you know wanting to jump on the the
gravy train you know like flies buzzing
around the cake as they say yeah and uh
there was a lot of guys with basically
fake credentials and a lot of people
jumping in teaching that had no business
teaching at all they had no teaching
experience or background so Master Elio
Gracie and his oldest son hon wanted to
have some type of instructor training
program where they would teach you how
to teach I was the first person to
graduate from that program now I
mentioned Hoy Gracie before I I ask you
more questions about that you saw this
ho Gracie Shamrock not one two this is
three it surprised a lot of us what was
your breakdown on that what what did you
think of the fight this last one this
last one yeah this was number three yeah
no um I mean first of all it just shows
you the power of jit Jiu-Jitsu you know
uh even though Shamrock I'm sure have
studies and so forth Hoy was born on the
mat and U there was some a little
controversy you know Ken complained
about the shot to the groin but in the
original fights everything was going you
could do groin shots elbows to the back
of the head stomping aers down Up Kicks
all the things that are illegal now and
of course there was no gloves which
changes the game a lot you know ground
and pound it didn't really exist back
then because you know you're going to
break your hand on someone's elbow or
the top of their head so you know ho ho
ho proved you know what an amazing
fighter he is even now yeah you know
he's not he's not a young guy anymore
there was some controversy towards the
end what' you
he was the closest to because when he
first started when they did the US there
was no there was no rules there was
nothing except respectful respectfully
no ey ging or or groin shot but even
everything was permitted everything was
permitted so I mean to me it was a fair
fight you know it it you know uh it
wasn't as if Hoy went out trying to get
a n shot I mean it just happened in the
course of the fight that's what happens
yeah you know so I like I I was thrilled
to see say say it I think I was also it
was amazing I've heard you say so many
times even with all your experience
you're humble knowing that you're still
a student and I'm still a student I got
my my my rashu as you
see looks good with the with the sports
it's not just War I for nothing maybe
you've created a new style here you know
I said work work by day Train by night
and I you come in and I was like uh so
much that uh with all your years of
training so much wisdom that we can
benefit from um your experiences and we
want the audience also uh tell us um
being with the Gracies this was before
like many of us we saw the inaction or
the UFC and people were fascinated
people with 10 different black belts
whatever striking arts and and then they
saw that wow this is you know amazing
that this family is able to you know
this guy 170 lbs you know small thin
he's taken them down destroy and people
got into uh the Jitsu from this but you
actually this is before the UFC this
before did you get to see tell us some
story did you get to see some Gracie in
action live with these challenges that
were going on oh yeah uh certainly did
it was really interesting because uh the
first seminar I had was like 89 and uh I
went under protest a friend of mine was
telling me about the Gracies and the
Jiu-Jitsu style being a former NCAA
division one wrestler you know I I I was
pretty egotistical you know I figured
out what what are these guys going to
show me and first seminar hoer just
tapped me like a typewriter and I
couldn't believe that this little tiny
guy you know this little skinny guy
could just basically kick my butt and I
was utterly shocked I thought wow I got
to learn this you know so many guys that
will happen to them and then you'll
never see them again and I never
understood that because even today if
someone had a martial art and you know
he he could he could show me how
Superior it would I would want to learn
that art and so I'm made it my mission I
wanted to learn Gracie jiujitsu I just
opened up my own gym at that time Max
aze it was the first Gracie training
association on the Eastern Seaborn
before hzo Grazy before any of these
we're going back to the time of even
Craig kok maybe you've heard of that
name like one of the early early guys so
um at that time the graci had a
challenge horon had written a article in
Playboy magazine and in which he
challenged anyone to come and take their
martial art against Gracie jiujitsu you
he would put $100,000 in there you know
so it was true it's not a myth $100,000
put up $100,000 and the the person was
supposed to come in and put their
$100,000 in you know one big pile and
then winter would take all but what was
happening were people were coming and
challenging without the money and of
course you know the Gracies want would
would ablage so they were getting
challenge matches at the Gracie Academy
and you can see a lot of those in the
old greas and action tapes that was the
first video that I had seen Horan had
made this uh uh one of the original
inaction tapes and I was just blown away
with with what I saw and um when I
opened up my school in Philly I would
get guys coming in that want to
challenge us yeah and I would say wait a
second we're just blue belts you know
purple belt and uh you know you want to
call Hoy or Oren or Hixon and uh they
were still in assist and it developed
great confidence because it was quite
frightening some of these guys were
pretty formidable looking guys but
without the knowledge of jiujitsu to
back them up actually the fights were
pretty easy pretty easy and we weren't
even that skilled at the time yeah and
it just proved to me how amazingly
effective this martial art is you know
Mano Yano very hard to beat as juit a
guy if you don't know what to do on the
ground yes and the fight will go to the
ground that's right without a doubt it's
been proven the most effective martial
art in the world not just by Theory but
by action by action there's no yeah I
mean it's it's it's not like you know
one of these things like uh the dim mock
death touch or something that is just
too dangerous ever to do I mean you know
that this stuff actually works so yeah
we we get guys boxers kickboxers
Taekwondo T Tang sudo U you know the
tough guys were always the wrestlers
that was going to be a long struggle I
remember I had this guy he was a former
uh NCAA division 3 guy he weighed about
210 lbs I was at the time I was already
in my 40s and maybe 138 PB soak and wet
I went almost 45 minutes with this guy
before I finally sunk arm triangle from
the guard yeah and I felt like I was in
a blender he just throwing me all over
the place but he couldn't really hurt me
he couldn't really finish me he couldn't
really do anything and but it built a
lot of confidence a lot of confidence
amazing we're going to go ahead and take
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Steve Maxwell now Steve you uh also had
a chance I we got to talk a little bit
about the the history uh and how you
started and you also got to spend some
time on the uh farm with Helio Gracie I
did it was one drinking some milk it was
an amazing uh amazing time um ellot
graci was a a very generous host um I
had visited him around
1992 I believe it was I went down
trained with hoer at the um school and
then I returned later uh when ho Was
preparing for a uh a fight and stayed
there uh about a month and got a chance
to see uh up close the Gracie diet and
of course you know ellot Gracie was very
very strict about the way he ate uh he
was very hail Hardy right up until the
very end very uh even when he was in his
late 80s and 90s he was still very spry
and and and moving around and he knew
that I liked milk raw milk and he would
go out he had his own Dairy form his own
chickens he had a lake where it was
stalked with fish you know he'd go out
and catch a fish for dinner I mean it
was pretty amazing uh siie grew on the
trees right outside the house you know
all the tropical fruits everything
everything it was like a a garden of
bead in there really and he would go out
and milk the cow and bring me a big
frothy picture of of nice raw milk it
was delicious real milk yeah real raw
straight from the cat many people don't
know that the number one allergenic food
according to the FDA is milk but it's
not real milk we're talking about
homogenized pasteurized fake food as we
call it once they homogenize it you know
they destroy all the natural enzymes and
and and so forth when you get it raw
it's a whole different food from the
stuff that you find in the store even
mil even raw milk though if it's sitting
around too long uh is is an ideal I mean
the ideal would be to get it you know
right from the cow as you were getting
it yeah as I was getting it you know a
couple days it's it's okay quickly
because there's no preservatives or
anything you know quickly begins to
break down and um there are a lot of
American Health Pioneers in the early
days U Harvey Kellogg and Bernard
mcfaden some of these guys who were very
much into the milk cure where people
that were suffering different ailments
instead of outright fasting they would
drink raw milk only the only food they
would take like a mono diet for 30 days
and there's like testimonial after
testimonial as to the effectiveness of
the milk cure gave the digestion a
chance to to uh to uh relax and not be
so over burdened and gave the body a
chance to detoxify while still giving
you some some good nutrients in calories
so that you weren't so tired I've taken
water fast also as a cure but you need
to lay down and rest a lot when you're
taking a water fast yeah you don't have
any any energy plus your body is busy
detoxifying as far as
detoxification I believe water fast is
superior but they do make you do get
quite
tired um but a mono diet like uh the
milk cure uh is a way that if you have
to work and you have duties that you
just can cannot attend to then something
like that is a really good alternative
yeah uh we uh we actually fast when we
fast it's it's usually from from Sun
before sunrise to sunset no food no
drink nothing and then there's a new
thing now with the intermittent fasting
intermittent fasting which I've done I
kind of do a major benefits they
discovering from the I like to push my
lunch back every day to like 11 or 12 I
usually arise around between 500 and 6
yeah and uh I I think there's a lot of
benefit your body is busy getting rid of
metabolic waste from the day before in
the early morning and having a big heavy
breakfast is definitely a burden on your
system yes better just to have nothing
or eat very lightly and this is very
important um you should not be eating uh
before you have a bow movement in the
morning I know it sounds kind of kind of
gross but it's really really important
that you eliminate before you start
filling your body with food what about
water water's fine you can start you
recommend starting with water yeah water
in the morning how about some people put
lemon or what's the apple cider vinegar
yeah no that's fine you know um I just
drink water myself personally uh it's
movement and then eat yeah uh if you
like a little coffee it's okay you know
a little coffee is not a terrible thing
i' I've been into matcha tea lately it's
it it has a lot of chlorophyll in it and
a lot of really good
antioxidants and there is a mouth
stimulating effect to it there is a
little caffeine in there so I'll usually
drink matcha tea sometimes mix with a
little coconut water yeah you know uh F
Fed Up have you seen forget about it
there are 600,000 food items in America
80% of them have added sugar your brain
lights up with sugar just like it does
with cocaine or heroin you're going to
become an addict you end up with one of
the great Public Health epidemics of our
time
this is the first generation of American
children expected to lead shorter lives
than their parents this is like a
catalyst that really open my eyes you
know to one of the to the dangers and
the importance of eating real food and
staying away from you know one example
of white processed refined sugar one out
of every three Americans will have
diabetes those diseases are being driven
by Sugar this is the fundamental problem
nobody's talking about in society in his
seems like this is something with the
marketing campaign from the food
industry that's why you mentioned
earlier the statistic almost 70% of
people now here are obese and it's
pretty bad and the rest of the world is
quickly catching up talk to us about
You' seen the movie I I I strongly
everyone watched fed up it was like wow
yeah and it's really sad and right now
in the United States we are basically
the fattest Nation on Earth but China is
quickly catching up uh the UK not too
far behind uh Germany you know all the
industrialized countries in the world uh
they're very quickly taking on the fast
food addiction that the American public
have and it's really undermining the
health uh the world over uh I I travel
extensively as you know I'm a digital
Nomad yeah I don't live in any one spot
I'm always moving to different country
and um even in the Middle East I'm
seeing a lot of overweight people that
are not uh eating well monkey see monkey
do because we're following this the
culture you know the Norms here and then
that stuff is just past McDonald's is
infiltrating it's infiltrated every one
of the saddest things I ever saw I went
to what was probably one of the greatest
paradises ever on Earth was Tahiti uhuh
and there was two McDonald's on the
island of Tahiti and the drive-thru
would literally be backed up for miles
wow and the heans were so obese it was
so sad cuz what a magnificent people you
know yeah we're going to take a break
I'm excited we got a lot more questions
to ask you to benefit us and the viewers
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Steve Maxwell we're talking about Fed Up
have you seen have you heard of Ty
Binger the doctor is brainwashed when he
gets out of medical school because the
medical school has too much
subsidization of the professors who are
being paid by the drug company so the
professor never teaches any student in
medical school
why don't you try vitamin C they're
going to tell them the latest drug
that's by Design specifically you know
they about over a century ago there's
foundations the Carnegie and the
Rockefeller foundations who sort of
engineered the curriculum through their
grants and donations are you wondering
what Dr Maka meant when he mentioned
that the carnegies and the rockerfeller
foundations engineered Medical School
curriculum over a century ago he was
referring to the flexon report of 1910
which we covered in our last documentary
this is a man whose mother and father
died to cancer and then uh his five
other family members is called the uh
truth about cancer a global questel
across the United States interviewing
doctors scientists researchers and
cancer patients to learn what they were
doing to treat cancer have you heard of
this I have not but strongly recommend
it I I do
know the cancer industry is 50% of
people living today will have cancer did
you know that almost 50% of the people
alive today will face cancer did did you
know that one in four males alive today
will die from cancer one out of four
will go ahead will die from it and many
of this as they uncover that go back to
the food Cho 95% of chronic diseases are
are because the food choices we're
making well there's no there's no
uh there's no accident that that that
people are getting cancer I mean it's
not just like something just happens to
you know you have to work to get it it's
not like some mysterious thing that just
hits you you know people with these with
these type of diets and of course the
smoking and and so forth uh but there's
some uncontrollable factors too you know
like the environmental pollution you
know you heard about the Flint Water
Crisis and so forth yeah okay there are
some some things out of your control but
a lot of the stuff is in your control
there was a turn of the America there
was a turn of the century American
physician by the name of Dr John Tien he
uses a kind of a variation of the Gracie
diet which I follow very religiously and
uh it's basically food combining diet
very similar to The Gracie diet or
Sheldon's uh food combining diet and
tillon even back then was noticing that
a lot of these so-called cancers aren't
real cancer they're like a pre-cancer
and they can still be nipped in the bud
by changing your diet primarily through
fasting and he he cured many
people according to toaden once you get
true cancer it's pretty much done deal
but there's a there's a lot of time
between where this pre-cancer type
condition occurs and before you you get
the full-blown cancer I I'm I'm really
on the the um the philosophy the way
that you know this um Tai Binger he goes
out and he interviews I'm not talking
about uh you know he first talks about
the facts that most doctors I didn't
know this they know nothing about you
know the basics of nutrition but if you
look at the amount of training that I
received it was probably about 2 or 3
hours in medical school once I got out
into training my internship my residency
which was a 5-year long I don't think I
got any training at all and from then on
to now there's probably zero amount of
training in nutrition the poor things
don't study nutrition at medical school
and for the bulk of them
post-qualification training consists of
courses that are dished out to them by
the pharmaceutical industry I'm pretty
skeptical uh about the quality of the
tra that they receive having said all
that I went to med school myself they
gave us a whole hour on nutritionals a
whole hour in in four years of medical
school mhm and they told us there's
vitamin A and B1 and B2 and c and d and
they're in alphabetical order and you
can look them up and then they told us
some really basic facts we got a whole
hour first of all how much training did
you receive on nutrition when you were
in medical school because I know here in
the states it's almost none yeah not
much not much even argen it's close to
to yeah yeah very Close To None very
little because you know in medical
school they don't teach you they don't
teach you anything about nutrition and
about the power of food you know you
heard of hypocrates who said let food be
your medicine medicine be your food but
then you have the be the good who who
got better and they actually went be out
and Beyond and they talk about you know
just giving the body what it needs to
heal itself because we're always in a
state of of healing and he goes on and
talks to people all over the world who
have helped to cure cancer through
natural means through proper dieting
through uh without the chemo which is $6
160 billion doll industry I'll tell you
right now if I got if I was diagnosed
with cancer I would not do chemo I would
fast they talk about fasting fasting is
probably one of the most powerful cure
tillen talks a lot about that and his
book talk SEI explain and this was
almost written a hundred years ago this
guy already saw the writing on the wall
he was railing against you know big
pharmaceutical companies and you know
drugs and so forth but with all this
stuff too you can't you can't eliminate
the mental emotional spiritual aspect of
the whole thing because a lot of these
diseases are created by impure thoughts
created by negative
thinking uh negative emotional patterns
anger hate jealousy greed if you don't
eliminate this from your life thoughts
are things and they create these
negative conditions in our body so
people are overlooking that whole
spiritual aspect of the whole thing it's
so important to control your thoughts
and not allow yourself to be immersed in
this type of negative thinking this is a
whole another Avenue that people neglect
another Avenue that people neglect no
one's talking about this aspect tell us
now this is what I got I got uh turned
on to you by um uh my strength and
conditioning coach I believe he was uh
mentioning you and I had tuned in and
you know right to uh of an interview I I
believe it was you who said that you
hadn't been to a doctor in 20 years 35
years 35 years so I said I said hold on
he's on to something I need to talk to
this man because who wants to be going
to the doctor you know every uh year a
few times a year and then you know what
you get on drugs and then that causes
another side effect something's growing
out of your back out of your head right
so H how what's going on 35 years you
hadn't been to the doctor um if I start
to feel cold or flu symptoms I
immediately will stop eating if I
absolutely must be you know doing stuff
I'll just go maybe on a basic fruit diet
something really easy to digest and give
my body a chance to eliminate any
toxemia that's built up a lot of times
it's a combination of toxemia and
innervation just being overly tired and
um if I can I'll just take a day or two
of rest and just go either all water or
light fruits Bingo you know within a day
or two completely turn it around get
your energy back feel better a lot a lot
of this stuff is caused from overeating
overburdening their digestion and so
forth and I do a lot of prayer and
meditation because that's very important
as we were saying you cannot neglect the
spiritual aspect of disease it's almost
like a metaphor for things that are
going wrong in your life and you have to
take a hard look at this it's it's it's
almost as if your thoughts can literally
precipitate have you ever had a bout of
anger you know I I can remember in the
past getting extremely angry about
something you know maybe before I was
aware of this and literally coming down
with like a cold the next
day stress is a killer stress and you
know thing you know these type of
negative emotions are huge stresses and
they literally affect your endocrine
system
uh you know affect every aspect of your
body and so there's no doubt about that
it's very important to to purify
and uh be pure in your thought wow that
also reminds me my um uh great man I met
that had him on the program he was sick
and tired of being sick and tired he
went to the conventional doctor just
gave him more pills that didn't help and
it wasn't until he started to do some of
these things you're mentioning he
cleaned up his his diet he started
eating right he strengthened immune
system clean up his thoughts and he's
better he hasn't also been to the doctor
in 20 some years not as long as you so
that's a science by itself you have
people here who are taking care of the
gift that the creator has given them
this body putting in what it needs to
function Optimal Performance while you
have some others now what if the some
people say look my doctor said you know
eat whatever you want this is common
amongst many many doctors will say it
doesn't matter what you eat just go
ahead and eat it what you want well you
heard this look at look at the health of
the average doctor yeah you know most of
these guys are not particularly healthy
I'm not going to entrust my health to a
guy like that and as you said before in
medical school you know they they really
don't have one hour nutrition they gave
us a whole hour on nutritionals a whole
hour in four in four years of medical
school mhm yeah I mean they I didn't
know that's mind-blowing they don't have
a clue it's all about drugs right if you
come in and say doctor I'm suffering
pains in my joint and he'll say well
you're inflamed you have inflammation
let's take this pill or this drug to
suppress the
inflammation but he doesn't look into
what is the cause behind the
inflammation why do we go to the source
and get rid of what's causing the
inflammation rather than just taking a
harmful drug that's going to mess up
your kidney and your liver and just try
to suppress it inflammation is the na
body's natural healing response
suppressing it makes no sense it's like
a fever you know the do the average
doctor will suppress the fever but the
fever is your body's natural healing
response you know I mean obviously if it
gets too high you know it's going to be
harmful but there's you know you can put
cold compresses and things to bring the
fever down without going through the
harmful drug but the pharmaceutical
injury you know it's billions and
billions of dollars in the past 10 years
the 11 largest drug companies made $711
billion the pharmaceutical industry
isn't in the business of health and
healing it's in the business of disease
management and symptoms maintenance
whatever your symptom is we've got a
pill for it
and they have they have control of
modern medicine yeah where modern
medicine has made great steps is of
course emergency medicine you know yeah
I mean if you get busted bust your arm
on you get shot up or something yeah on
the Jiu-Jitsu mat you know you tap a
little bit too slow they're pretty good
with you know putting your back together
you know you car accidents exactly or B
Battlefield medicine and so forth but
chronic disease when it comes to like
prevention yeah and and degenerative
Style disease they've gone backwards of
anything in 2013 Pharma spent upwards of
$422,000 per Congressman making sure the
US government knew exactly what Pharma
wanted that's a lot of influence the
pharmaceutical companies are all drug
dealers every 19 minutes someone dies of
an accidental overd it's the worst
epidemic we face in America today I
think they knew more a hundred years ago
wow all you have to do is read this guy
Dr John ton it's a free pdf by the way
yeah you can just go to the soil and
health library and there's like a whole
Litany of natural healing books and so
forth it's there it's free to the public
and you can read yourself and educate
yourself on the way to heal yourself
without uh modern medicine which I think
does more harm than good this is amazing
a lot more to talk about here with Steve
Maxwell don't go anywhere we'll be right
back that's it for this week's show guys
Steve Maxwell he shares some really good
Mobility drills with me I'm excited to
continue talking with him learning from
him and I hope you guys can join me next
week as I continue on with the interview
with Steve Maxwell on The Dean
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