ald in our last week's uh we had begun
to discuss uh the famous incident of the
immigration of the Muslims to abisinia
and we had me mentioned that in the
fifth year of the da in the month of
rajab the Prophet sallallahu alaihi
wasallam had allowed the Muslims to
immigrate to abisinia and we had
mentioned that the reason why abisinia
was chosen is because they had the
freedom to worship Allah subhanahu
wa'ta'ala and we derived a number of
benefits and and uh important morals
that we can derive and especially for us
here in America there's a lot of wisdom
and benefit uh with that parallel of
living as a minority in a non-muslim
land
now shortly after the immigration to
abisinia the Muslims returned back to
meca in fact so much so that it is
narrated that they came back within
three months the month of sha so they
immigrated in the month of rajab it
takes around four or five days to get
there and so
Shan RAB Shan Ramadan and then sha and
in the month of shaal they all returned
now why would they return just after 3
months what happened that caus them to
change their minds after immigrating to
abisinia and then come back to the very
land of persecution the very land of
torture this incident is the famous
incident that some have called have
called The Satanic Verses and so we need
to discuss what exactly was this
incident and why did these sahab why did
these uh 14 or 15 people 11 men and four
women so around 15 people why did they
return back they returned back because
of one
rumor and that rumor was the qur have
accepted
Islam now you can imagine Life In This
Strange Land any anybody who's moved
even when we move in the modern world
the most difficult time of moving the
most difficult time is the first week of
actually getting there when you don't
have a house or you don't have a you're
not settled down you don't have friends
the most difficult time of any movement
is basically as soon as you get there
even in the journey okay you're waiting
to get to the destination once you get
there and then you realize it's such a
different place from what you're used to
so it was an extremely difficult time
even though they weren't persecuted but
just a climatization different language
different culture you can imagine a
whole different set of norms they're not
used to it and so so some rumor spread
that they just pounced on some rumor
spread that they just embraced
instantaneously and that rumor was the
qur have accepted Islam No matter how
Wild the rumor sounded their hearts were
yearning to go back and they didn't have
the connections that we do with the
modern facilities to verify there's no
way they're going to send a party there
there's only 15 of them and the rumors
parents the qur have accepted Islam so
they decide well if they've accepted
Islam kalas we don't need to live here
so they pack their bags and they come
back all the way back and on the way
there they discover that this is in fact
not true it was a lie or it was a
exaggerated rumor to be more precise
it's not a lie but it is an exaggerated
rumor what is the basis of this rumor
how did it come about here we need to
now talk about what we some people have
called The Satanic Verses now before we
begin we need to understand that the
whole whole controversy comes over
whether this incident is authentic or
not the whole controversy comes over how
do we understand this incident so let us
talk about the different versions of the
story that exist and to be simple even
though this is pretty academic insh but
still to be simple I'll talk about uh
three versions even though there are
more than these but we'll talk about
three versions version number
one version one is the version that is
reported
in and is the version that is obviously
the most
authentic and it says in this Hadith
Inari that in the month of Ramadan well
the date is not given but we we learned
from IB is the month is not mentioned in
in inkari but in the month of Ramadan in
the fifth year of the hij 2 months after
the Muslims have immigrated the prophet
wasam recited Surah
the prophet
recited in its entirety from beginning
to end andah is a very powerful Surah
very eloquent Surah and when he came to
the very end of the Surah when he
finished the Surah the very last uh
verse in the Sur basically
says that prostrate to Allah subhah wa
tala and worship him and so the momentum
built up in the Surah and the excitement
built up and the power of the Quran
affected the entire congregation Muslim
and non-muslim such that when the
prophet
said the Muslims fell into s and when
the Muslims fell into s the qur were so
overwhelmed with
emotion they too fell into s
and Muslim and non-muslim for the first
time United together in worshiping Allah
now they're worshiping Allah there's no
Idol here
right Muslim and non-muslim for the
first time they all United behind the
prophet Muhammad sallallahu alaihi
wasallam right except for one person the
says he was too arrogant and he was an
old man so he picked up some sand and he
put it on his forehead and he said this
is good enough for me you guys prostrate
I just put the sand to my head right
this is good enough for me except for
him now that's a side point not related
to the story but the point being that
everybody prostrated behind the prophet
wasallam now by the time the rumor made
its way from mecah
to to abisinia right the rumor begins a
hand span and it returns back an arms
length right by the time it reached
abisinia the rumor had become what
they've all accepted Islam they've
United behind the prophet Muhammad
sallallahu alaihi wasallam Simple Story
right Simple Story and this is the story
of alari and I want to really I I I wish
we had the time to uh to really go over
all ofah but the fact of the matter is
that Surah is such a powerful Surah and
it is such an eloquent Surah and the
last verses especially they build up a
pitch they truly build up a pitch and
they there's an element of excitement
that's being built up and verse by verse
and there's so many questions being
asked towards the end that even the qur
according to the version of alkari even
the qur were overwhelmed by the sheer
power of the Sur and just to finish up
the Surah uh I want to just recite some
of the verses at the very uh end to give
you an idea of what this Surah is
talking about Allah subhah wa tal says
AB
un for
what
[Laughter]
this translation the very last now the
process I'm obviously is reciting from
the very beginning and it builds up even
more so this translation the very last
10 aat Allah says is not the listener
aware of what is in the book of M and in
the book of ibraim who fulfilled his
engagements namely that no bearer of
burdens can bear the burden of another
and that every man will be rewarded or
punished for what he has done for the
fruit of his own striving will soon be
in front of everyone to see then will he
be rewarded with the complete reward and
indeed to Allah is the ultimate goal for
it is Allah who makes people laugh and
it is Allah who makes people cry
and it is Allah who makes people die and
it is Allah who gives them life and
indeed it is Allah who created
everything in pairs male and female from
a seed that is lodged in its place and
it is Allah who has promised a second
creation this is the first creation
Allah has promised the second creation
and it is Allah who gives wealth and
satisfaction and it is Allah who is the
lord of the mighty Sirius the star in
the sky the mighty Sirius and it is
Allah who destroyed the ancient people
of and the people of they too are not
around and before them even the people
of n for indeed they were the most
unjust and the most insolent of
transgressors and it is Allah who
destroyed the overthrown cities here the
scholars say of Sodom and gomorah so
that the ruins have covered them up then
which of the signs of your Lord will you
argue
about this is a Warner the Prophet
Muhammad wasam just like the Warners of
old Allah has destroyed and and you are
not any different Allah has destroyed
the people of all of these prophets this
Prophet is the same vein as them and the
judgment is ever approaching coming
closer none but Allah subhah wa tala can
reveal its
time do you Marvel at this
recitation and you are laughing and
making fun of it and not crying
and you're going around your daily
activities ignoring what is going to
happen the day of
judgment rather ignore all of this fall
down in prostration to Allah and worship
him now the reason I recited these 10
verses and one did their translation is
to show you that imagine the prophet
reciting the entire Surah at least 15 20
minutes of beautiful recitation and it's
a powerful recitation it really is an
emot Surah that makes people follow
along verse by verse These are short
verses they're rhetorical questions and
the people's emotions are getting higher
and higher and then when the prophet
falls down in s the Muslims fall down
even the qur fall down and so version
one which is the bukari version is the
authentic version no question about it
and it doesn't need any far-fetched tale
to explain it now we get to version two
and version three which is where it gets
a little bit Mucky a little bit
dirty version now the version of of
bukari by the way is narrated by I Abbas
and ab said theith is
inar the chapter
ofb AB said that the prophet
recited and he prostrated and all of the
Muslims and the mush and even the Jin
and the in prostrated with him everybody
who heard the Surah couldn't help be
overwhelmed even the Jin frustrated with
him and he said except for one man and
this is he took sand and he put it on
his hand head and he said this is
sufficient for me in another version it
is basically one of the two really
strong or staunch enemies they were
arrogant and they didn't prostrate
that's just a detail not really relevant
to the Surah now this is version one it
is the authentic version there is no
mention of Shan there's no need to
mention Shan we now get to the disputed
versions version two and and version
three version two and version three
revolve
around rat or reports that are not found
in the famous books of Hadith they're
not found in the six books they're not
found in mus IM Ahmed they're not even
found in is andam which are the standard
sources of tap rather they are found in
the more obscure works and the larger
collections the encyclopedias the
tertiary Works they are found usually in
the books that collect everything such
as a
we need to understand one thing did not
intend to write a summarized for the
masses he wanted to write an
encyclopedia for the
scholars and he collected everything
that he found and he mentions this in
the beginning of his famous book he says
I'm going to mention everything that I
hear I don't care if it's authentic or
not my job is just to report so's
reporting doesn't mean anything he's
just collecting it's just like uh any
unfiltered news source it just narrates
everything right is not bukari bukari is
a critical collector tari is saying I'm
not a critical collector I'm just
collecting everything and so these
reports are found Inari in more obscure
book books that are not standard books
such
as and others and it mentions a story
involving Shan involving
and because it involves
El a western researcher uh one of the
first researchers of this Century to
specialize in Islam they were called
orientalist his name is Sir William mu
Sir William mu and he died 1905 he was
the one who for the first time said this
is something we'll call it the Satanic
Verses the name Satanic Verses is not
found in the Quran and Sunnah it's not
found even in these weak narrations it's
found or it's coined by a western
researcher Sir William mu Sir William mu
is a presbyterian Minister who
specialized in in Islam and he became
one of the uh professors of Islam in in
Scotland and he's a very famous
orientalist this is 100 years ago 100
years ago and he's written a very big
book about the s in English and it was
one of the first books of s in the
English language from a modern
perspective 100 years ago and so he
labeled the chapter the Satanic
Verses so the term Satanic Verses comes
from William we the Islamic sources that
do mention it they call it
and is the name of a
bird uh I tried to find out the
equivalent modern Arab linguists have
differed what is the English equivalent
of the bird is it the the herin is it
the Pelican is it the crane some people
said it's a pelican some have said it is
a crane but it is a bird with a long
neck and some have said it is a hin h e
r o n and others have said it is a
pelicin but it is a bird with a long
neck so in Islamic sources this is
called the story of this bird
why we'll understand now what is this
story so now let's talk about the two
versions of the story in essence they're
the same but there's one crucial
difference and we'll explain this
difference so let's get on to uh version
two of why
the ab why the Abyssinian Muslims why
the quray returned or why the Muslims
immigrated and then returned version two
remember version one is bukari right
that's clearcut and it's definitely
authentic no question about that version
two and three are adding details that
are not found in bukari so we need to
now discuss them what is version two
version two is reported by in his and it
goes back to the famous he's not a and
this is the main weakness that never saw
the prophet and is not narrating from
the prophet so there's a missing link
right and this is one of the biggest
weaknesses right
now said that when Surah was being
recited now pay attention to this in the
first page ofah Allah subhah wa tala
says I'll give you the Ayah number uh
right now Ayah number 19 and 20 19 and
20 have you not
seen and the third of them
man have you not seen and the third of
them man what are these three these are
the three the three Gods the three Idols
right now in the Quran verse 17 have you
not seen verse 19 have you not seen
verse uh uh verse 20 and the third of
them verse 21 are you going to get the
females and you will give him the males
remember the Arabs look down at women
right so Allah is telling them so you
give him what you discard you're going
to kill girls and yet you want your lord
to have daughters
what an unfair uh sharing this is what
the Quran says in front of us now what
is the story you need to pay attention a
little bit of academic things here so
verse 19 verse 20 have you seen and and
the third of them
man said after verse number
20an cried
out and he added two
verses that were not in the Quran and
and these verses were heard by the mus
but not by the
Muslim Shan cried out in his own voice
in his own tongue and he added two
verses have you seen and the third of
them this is in the Quran then he
added this is where we get this from
these these Idols are the mighty
Pelicans or
cranes these are the high and mighty
Pelicans beautiful Pelicans
right and their requests will be
granted now this is the first time that
the Idols are being praised apparently
right the Idols are being praised that
these Idols are beautiful birds and
their intercession will be accepted you
should worship them and so says when the
mus heard these verses they
thought the prophet Muhammad has
compromised finally he's come to a
middle
ground he's willing to accept our
gods and did they have a problem
accepting
Allah did they have a no they had no
problem accepting Allah right because
they believed in Allah but their problem
was you rejecting our Gods right and so
they said according to this version two
they said the prophet Muhammad wasallam
has agreed to accept our
gods and so when he finished the Surah
and they he prostrated they basically
said we're all in agreement now we don't
mind worshipping along with you do you
see version two now right this is
version two now why are the gods
called because some again this is
interpretation is that just like the
beautiful birds with long necks are
going up to Allah so these are Idols
that are going to take you up to Allah
this is how it is interpreted so this is
version number what version we talking
about now version number two version
number two now version number
three in yet other narrations and these
are found in and other sources
so we have to be very clear here and our
religion tells us to be academic the
satanic versus story is not concocted by
non-muslims it's found in some of our
sources we have to be very clear here
right and by the way a lot of you are
confused Salman Rush's book of course
it's named after this incident but it's
a whole work of fiction but the the the
point of the book is that and this is
why this is such a a thing that the
non-muslims jump on apparently the
prophet could not tell the difference
between jel andan or at least he's
reciting verses now from the perspective
of non-muslims if the story is true what
would this mean that the Quran is
obviously being changed per whim and one
day he the prophet say I'm just saying
what they say so that we understand as
Muslims so don't quote me on this this
is CER to say right I'm just saying what
they say so the
prophet I'm just saying what they say
tried to change his tactic and said
let's see if this is going to work and
he decided to change from
to and so he said kalas let's worship
all the gods together but then there was
a backlash from the
Muslims and so he said oh no these
weren't verses that I said these were
verses Shan
said hence Satanic Verses right so from
the perspective of non-muslims this
story clearly proves to them that
the prophet is inventing the Quran
that's what they say right and so he's
just changing his theology one day to
the next as any leader as any politician
does he sings the tune of the people
right one day he'll say this one day
he'll say that so he's according to them
changing his tune to get the people to
come to him right and so this is why
this story is a very important story
that we talk about it academically and I
have to say clearly this story is not
fabricated by non-muslims it's found in
our sources right and so they jump on it
and they then make a very big deal out
of it and this is something that we need
to discuss academically so this is
version number two version number three
is even worse than the second one in
version two Shan recites out and the
people here correct version three is
even worse in version
three the prophet Muhammad wasam hears
Shan's recitation and thinks it is jiel
reciting to him
him and he then when his own tongue
recites do you see the difference
between two and three now right and this
is of course even worse because we are
now saying or those people who say this
are saying that the prophet couldn't
tell the difference between jel and and
Shan and this is the premise of s Rush's
book that he begins the whole story with
that and it's a fiction fictional book
but this is the premise and he called
the book Satanic Verses and then that
caused a whole F that's not relevant to
our discussion the book and what
happened that's a different discussion
we're interested in the actual story as
found now once again we have to be
academically true here this is a version
that is found in early Islamic Arabic
sources it's not something that I looked
up myself to be on 100% sure that this
is not something they're inventing it's
something that is found some early books
do mention it so we have now three
versions of the story the first
version and this is the version that is
put in the six books anded in other
words from our perspective basically the
most authentic the New York Times or
whatever the most authentic sources they
have this version then you get lower and
lower in your authenticity and then you
have some details that are very strange
in version two the details say thatan
screamed out and the mus heard and the
Muslims didn't
hear right and so the Muslims didn't
understand why the qur
prostrated and they just thought that
the power of the Surah was that in the
third version which is the most
difficult for us to swallow in the third
version shaan pretends to be basically
who jiel and when jiel is reciting the
Quran Shan throws in two verses and the
prophet could not tell the difference
and so the prophet wasallam recited
those two verses in the
middle and then when the quray
prostrated according to these reports
jiel came back to him and said what did
you recite and so the prophet recited
with those two verses and jel said I
never recited these two verses to you I
didn't come with these two verses and
the prophet wasam became very depressed
and very hurt that he thought that he
was inventing this and then Allah
revealed now this is another version of
the Surah other version of the uh
incident Allah revealed Surah ha verse
52 Surah ha verse 52 ha verse 52 what
does it say it's a very important verse
and according to this interpretation it
is linked to the satanic vers story
verse 52
says that never did we send before you a
prophet or a messenger except that when
he when he now here's what does Tam mean
for now let us just say it means to
recite even though there's another
interpretation one interpretation says
when he
recites adds something to his
recitation and then Allah abrogates the
shanic recitation and Allah affirms his
own for indeed Allah is all
knowledgeable and Allah is all wise so
that the one that Shan said or the thing
that Shan said will become a f for those
who have a weak heart and for those who
have sorry disease in their hearts and
for those who have a hard
heart right so shanic Revelations or
shanic verses will become a f a test for
those who have a disease in their hearts
now that's in it's in there so according
to this version Shan actually succeed s
in in deceiving the prophet Muhammad
sallallahu alaihi wasallam and the
prophet wasam recites Satanic Verses and
Allah then corrects the Satanic Verses
and the proper recitation is revealed
and therefore the quray who initially
said okay let's all join hands they say
no we're not going to join hands and so
this reaches the Muslims of abisinia and
then they return now now let us spend a
little bit of time academic study let's
look at these three reports there is no
question that the first report is
authentic it is in bukari the issue
comes of course those who follow the
second or third opinion don't find a
contradiction in bukari and this because
the gist of the story bukari has an
outline he recited everybody
prostrated version 2 and three can
accept this outline correct right so
BK's version doesn't contradict version
2 and three therefore this is the
problem we don't need two and three but
buhari's version doesn't contradict so
those who accept two and those who
accept three they accept bukari as well
and they say bukari is also authentic
now what do we do with all of these the
first thing we do as lay people as lay
people let us see what the scholars
say sadly the scholars did not all
agree usually Scholars agree about many
things but sometimes they don't all age
and that's why it becomes a little bit
more difficult right so we have for
example a good group of Scholars who
rejected version 2 and3 and they stuck
with version one alhamdulillah and these
were big names people like I the most
famous scholar of right people like
who's a specialist in people like people
in our times like who's one of the
greatest Scholars of Hadith of our times
he passed away 5 six 8 n years ago 10
years ago
time flies albani passed away uh but he
was the greatest scholar of Hadith alive
in our times he wrote an entire
booklet about this story just this story
he wrote A booklet on it and he went
over every
single report wherever it's found and he
shows in academic detail that everyone
is weak everyone is weak and so we have
a lot of very famous people saying
versions 2 and three we cross them out
version one is
enough uh one of the famous Scholars of
the past Muhammad
is is a great scholar of Hadith he died
31 hij uh and he was one of the few
people who wrote a book there's four
people who wrote books a little bit of a
tangent here B
Muslim four people wrote books is one of
them and so is one of these great
Scholars of Hadith he was asked about
this story the story of Shan inspiring
the prophet he said this is a
fabrication that the enemies of Islam
did to try to destroy Islam this is
going back 31 Hijra from the very
beginning some people are saying this is
a fabrication that the enemies of Islam
have done to try to destroy it okay so
this is one group of Scholars how I wish
that we could have restricted ourselves
to them unfortunately there are Scholars
who do follow the other versions of the
story as well and they are big names and
because of this we have to be
academically Fair our religion tells us
to not hide the truth our religion tells
us to be frank and and and honest our
religion tells us to be academically
inclined so we need to talk about this
academically by the way interesting
point here in
1966 uh there was an entire worldwide
conference in Cairo over this story the
whole conference was over this story to
discuss an academically and to find out
and all the people presented papers and
they talked about discussed it 40 years
ago and a lot of major Scholars were
present there and the conclusion of the
conference was that the story is
fabricated the story is not true so we
can say that the bulk of the scholars of
our times want to cross out number two
and three and they say there's no need
for it and this is true to say this and
if you read almost any modern book of s
from saf f to any of the famous books
you will find that this story is either
not mentioned or it will mention it as a
fabrication okay as we said academically
speaking we have to be honest here we
have to say well that's not the only
position even within Sunni Islam some
Scholars have accepted version two and
some Scholars have even accepted version
three and had they been small names we
could have ignored them but they're all
big
names version two which says that out
loud and the prophet had no idea even
this is easier to swallow right because
I mean if if the prophet didn't do
anything well then how can you blame him
right you know there's no there's no uh
deception simply used his own tongue and
he threw it upon the people right this
version is accepted by a lot of Scholars
most importantly amongst
themani is a great scholar of Hadith
he's the greatest scholar Specialist of
sari he accepts this uh version and his
point is that look it's true that every
individual version of the story is not
reported with an authentic chain but
when you put all of them together each
weak chain kind of sort of gives
supporting evidence and it becomes
acceptable now this uh leads us to a
little bit of a one minute tangent in
The Sciences of Hadith when you have a
lot of weak individual chains but it's
of the same in incident or the same
Hadith the scholars of Hadith then put
these weak chains together and they say
okay little bit of weakness in chain X
little bit of weakness and chain why put
together it means that the Hadith is
authentic and this is a true principle
and applied it to this incident he said
there's five or six reports all of them
are weak he says this I read this myself
all of them are weak but put together it
shows that there's some basis to the
story so accepts version two now uh by
the way albani in his criticism of the
story he says what IB ha says is true
that weak reports put together become
authentic but not every single time
there's a science behind it and in this
case and then he goes into academic
detail in this case you cannot apply the
rule now that's a little bit Advanced
for this class but for this lecture but
you get the point that he agrees with
the rule two or three weak Traditions
become authentic but then he says this
rule has exception
if this is not met if this is not met
and then he applies those exceptions and
that's the whole purpose of the book
that he has the booklet it's to show
that you cannot take these weak
traditions in this case and then put
them together and he had that's a little
bit of an academic discussion now that's
version number
two version number three had it been
supported by anybody else I would have
left it unfortunately or whatever we
this is the fact of the matter it is
supported by one of the greatest
Scholars of Islam that Islam has ever
seen
and it is someone whom I admire
immensely and that
ISL T supported version
three and IB tya writes about this in a
number of his uh uh books and and his
ters and uh T says that not only do all
of the reports add up and make it
authentic but the verse of Surah Haj is
crystal clear
the verse of Surah is crystal clear that
it clearly says that it's not only you
every single Prophet before
you now some of you who understand
Arabic will say doesn't Tam mean to wish
right now here is where we get a little
bit more technical that the word
actually a originally it did mean to
recite and there are many poems in
pre-islamic uh the the and others they
have the word Tam to mean to recite and
that's why many even of the sahb abas
himself said Tam here means to recite
right later on one of the meanings of
Tam means to wish so even this becomes
now another dimension of complexity
right and now you're getting a little
bit I'm opening up a little bit of a
window of Islamic academics it is a very
complex science so this Ayah can also be
interpreted two
ways interpretation one except that when
he
recites Shan produces something and
throws it into his
recitation Allah will abrogate what Shan
said then Allah will make his ayat firm
and clear
so
that so that Allah will cause this to be
a test for those whose Hearts have a
disease and for
those their hearts are hard this shanic
recitation will become a test for them
so says the verse is very clear and this
is what happened
with now the other school or the other
interpretation says this verse has
nothing to do with and the Satanic
Verses rather it's a general verse take
it at face value that no Prophet or
messenger has wishes Tam here would
become wishes except that Shan tries to
tamper with his
intentions make you insincere make you
think of something else and Allah will
get rid of what Shan says and Allah will
affirm his aat so they understand Surah
verse 52 in a whole different tangent
I.E it has nothing to do with it has
nothing to do with Satanic Verses you
understand this point right now responds
to them and says but then how do you
understand the verse uh after
this that whatever the Shan has said
will become a f for those whose Hearts
have a disease this means says that they
have heard something it's not internal
in the mind of the Prophet this means
that they've heard something and it is a
f for them
now there's another dimension here uh I
have to go into more Dimensions here
because this is the whole purpose and
this is a theological
Dimension the majority of those who said
version 2 and three cannot happen and
especially version
three they said we don't care what theat
what the verse say we cannot accept this
as theology as a why because you're
claiming thatan and and and and and and
um Jil right could pretend to be each
other that the prophet couldn't tell the
difference that and this is the key
point now the Revelation itself has the
possib possibility to be corrupted and
tampered Integrity of the the Integrity
of the
becomes
compromised
so as one of them says a famous call of
our times I don't care if the isnads are
like the sun the brightest the sun I'm
not going to accept this story this is a
scholar of our times writing this right
and a lot of the previous Scholars as
well they said some similar things is
that we can't is one of them is he has
one of the best books of
uh that which causes the heart to be
cured by talking about the rights of the
Prophet it's a two volume book and it's
all about s and Prophet specialities and
miracles and he says How can any Muslim
believe in this story basically right
how can anyone who loves believe in this
story so he uses an emotional argument
right and he says how can anybody accept
that the prophet could basically slip
into this and take uh Shan's oran's uh
itation and so they say because the
prophets can never commit mistakes
because they are what's the Arabic
word this is a theological concept
because they
are means they cannot commit
mistakes we cannot accept that this
incident
occurred basically says look virgin 2
doesn't compromise the prophet's
you understand this point do you
understand this point everybody version
two in which Shan recites without the
prophet hearing doesn't compromise his
so he says therefore we'll neglect
version three get rid of that one and
we'll accept version two because I'm not
willing to compromise the
prophet's you guys following this point
right so accepts version two because it
has nothing to do with the prophet it's
not his fault
recited okay we can accept that and if
you are to accept that that's not that
big of a deal because it'san reciting
nowb said did not believe in is of
course he did every
Muslim every Sunni Muslim I should say
because the didn't agree with this every
Sunni Muslim says that the prophet
is no muslim Sunni Muslim says otherwise
so then how did imia understand this he
said
his definition of is basically different
than that of the other mus Sunni Muslims
and this is now a theological
controversy can the prophets commit sins
and mistakes or
not according to IB
Tamia the prophets cannot commit major
mistakes and sins number one number two
they cannot
commit uh or or lwd Mist sins right sins
are of different types and means vulgar
sins no Prophet can commit vulgarity
number three they cannot lie
ever lying is simply not possible for
the
prophets but says they can make
judgmental
errors judgmental errors is not a sin
it's an error in what you want to do and
he then quot many examples from the the
number one example is what who can tell
me
prisoners of the battle of bad The
Prisoner Battle of bad the prisoners of
the battle of bad the number one example
clearly the prophet decided to do
something and Allah revealed in the
Quran
that it's not befitting for the
prophet that he take prisoners of
war and so Allah subhana T basically Let
It Go but he wasn't he said this isn't
the best decision you make so this is a
judgmental error has nothing to do with
a mistake but then says something which
of course it sounds very bad but if you
think about it it's actually very easy
to swallow and true the prophets can
commit minor sins but two things number
one they do not persist in the Sin
number two they repent
immediately and then of course he gives
the number one example that nobody can
argue with and that is why are we here
on Earth
Our Father Adam committed a sin did he
not commit a sin I mean Allah says in
the Quran
that Adam was a but it says are also by
unanimous consensus and are
all they have a category above us and so
Adam was told not to eat and he ate also
quotesat verse two
what does this verse translate as so
that Allah can can do what forgive
forgive so clearly Allah is
forgiving conception of our Prophet
Muhammad wasallam is that he is the best
human but he's a
human and he can commit minor mistakes
minor errors like all the prophets but
he cannot persist in them and he will
repent immediately and then he says and
in this repentance is the
Perfection that Allah made the prophets
true role models for us cuz if he had
made them like Angels how would they be
Role Models SOB actually has a very
interesting point here right that they
are human they're not superhuman but
their humanity is as perfect as possible
okay now when it comes to this issue of
the quote unquote Satanic Verses as I
said this name is not found in Islamic
sources but just to understand it we can
call it but the story this story says
that this does not show at all that the
has been corrupted rather it shows it
has been protected and that the prophet
is the most true truthful of all those
who speak the truth why because of the
very fact that he came clean with the
story and that he said to everybody this
story that would actually impune him and
make him look bad but he still said the
truth you guys following this point here
right and then he quotes the famous
of that says we're going to talk about
this inall many many months from now
when we get to that
story uh let me just as a footnote there
are two stories that are highly
sensitive in the S and highly
controversial and highly emotional and
highly problematic keep on saying so
many things two stories in particular
and both of them require us to be calm
collect academic the first of these is
this Satanic Verses and the second is
the story of
Zab and we'll get to the story of Zena
when we get to it and that's a
very that's a very difficult story very
difficult story and again the non
Muslims have a field trip with it and we
need to talk about it academically but
that's easier to resolve that is easier
to resolve nonetheless it is it has its
own problematic issues now story of Zab
we'll talk about when we talk about it
but Allah revealed in the Quran verses
about Zab and about who was Zab married
to Zade right ZB the very one whom the
prophet adopted right ZB Muhammad and ZB
and so Zade and Zab were married and
then eventually uh they were having a
lot of problems and then eventually
Allah revealed in the Quran that Zab is
your wife after the divorce so before
the divorce Z Zade came to the prophet
wasam wanting to divorce
Zab Zade came to the prophet wanting to
divorce Zab now the Quran
says that basically you advised him not
to divorce her
and you were scared of the
people this is in the
Quran and you should have been scared of
Allah you understand the verse so far as
for what it applies to we'll get to that
I don't even want to start that story
right now CU that's a whole different
tangent we'll get to there someday
inshallah insh and we will talk about it
fully academically because I personally
don't believe in hiding the truth and I
think that if we especially if we were
living maybe in a Muslim country even
then I would say kalas let's just ignore
these tales and then tell you the easy
stuff but Subhan Allah when a non-muslim
is going to come and say look this is
what your book says and you don't know
what it says and you have no idea well I
have met Muslims who when they are told
of this story the way that it is found
in non-muslim books they get ideas of
how is it possible right they have no
clue and so we're living in an
environment where our religion is being
attacked and the best mechanism to
defend ourselves is to be armed with
knowledge ignorance is not Bliss
knowledge is power and we need to
embrace these stories and say them and
then critique them so when we get there
I'll talk about the difficult issues uh
and they are difficult issues for now
let's just take the first at face value
you were scared of the people you should
have been scared of Allah that's in the
Quran correct says thisi is
inkari if the prophet wasallam had
hidden anything from the Quran he would
have hidden
verse but he still recited it to the
people and to this day it is in the
Quran you guys following this point
right he didn't have to tell us the
verse meaning meaning he could have
hidden it of course Allah would have
exposed him but he could have hidden it
right he nobody knows jiel is coming and
telling him anything except if he tells
us correct still he recited all of these
verses to us and to this day we have
this in the Quran Allah is not
embarrassed of the truth and so when Z
has finished his divorce of her you have
been married to
her and therefore this is the only that
didn't require any Witnesses any well
Allah has done the nah in the Quran we
recite the marriage contract every day
we every time this is revealed this is
the marriage contract without anyah
without any without any anything Allah
says what else do you need to say right
and so when the divorce was finished and
the was finished Z became a wife of the
Prophet instantaneously without any
ceremony being done okay now you
understand non-muslims have a field trip
we'll talk about that then but for
now the point
is says if the prophet wanted to hide
something he would have
hidden this verse but he didn't hide it
IB says why can't we apply the same
thing
to to the
story that yes this is exactly what
happened that Allah allowed because
everything happens by the will of Allah
Allah allowed the Shan to get in two
verses and then Allah
abrogated what Shan said and Allah
perfected his verses and the prophet
came clean and said everything and so my
point being here if you really think
about it all three
versions they have their they have their
possibilities right and there are major
Scholars on all three uh on all three
sides of this equation
Now what is my opinion about this and
who am I to compete with these great
great Scholars but nonetheless I need to
give you some as a minor student of
knowledge and I do not compete at all
with the great people we have
mentioned we have i k we have ha we have
t and Subhan Allah all three our major
Giants in our
religion at the same time we're allowed
to give our own opinions on this issue
and Allah knows the truth in my humble
opinion version one is the one that we
need and we don't need version two and
three and we can cross them out for the
following seven reasons for the
following seven
reasons reason or number one number
one it is true to say
that claiming thatan can Inspire the
prophet wasam even though explained it
away and there is a way to explain it
away like he did still it
does seem to interfere with the process
of and Allah has guaranteed the process
of and Allah
says and Allah
says and Allah says
in other words so many verses talking
about the purity of Revelation that no
one can falsify the Revelation now ifb T
had been in front of me he would say but
Allah but the the Revelation was not
falsified and we know what is true from
what is false you understand his
reputation right still my heart inclines
towards the fact the purity of
Revelation should not be compromised
number
two there is no authentic version of
theic incident at
all every single incident that is
reported in and is weak every one of
them and none of them is an unbroken
chain back to the prophet Muhammad none
of them the strongest
one and uh I came across this in one of
the ancient theological texts of a dad
me when he was talking about his
opponent he goes this opponent all he
can do is give bakbak like the bakbak
and I was like Wow as it they
understand this cuz most Arabs have no
idea what bakbak is now but this is now
we know what bakbak is very well um so I
haven't memorized his BB mus uh but
people have attempted to fabricate the
Quran the the the point is they've never
succeeded in that right that's the point
so it doesn't go against this this thing
any question from the sisters in the
back I have a timeline question a
timeline question yes go ahead when was
this Surah exactly revealed to prophet
and particularly this incident when he
is reciting that means it is already
revealed yes so how can will be there be
addition or delion because you already
revealed something it is
fixed so when he's
reciting he's under pause for 2 minutes
so according to version number
three Shan added while jiel was paused
Shan added something and the prophet
thought it was jiel this is version
three okay that's that's all that we
know another timeline question yeah
another timeline question yes in the
chronology of
Revelations
how verse 52 of
after the very perceptive
question uh the question is when was
Surah ha verse 52 revealed Surah ha
overall most Scholars say was revealed
during the hij it was the only
Revelation that occurred during the
Hijra however that doesn't mean much
because we don't have a chronology for
every Ayah of the Quran and a lot of
times we have the bulk of a Surah
revealed one place but one or two ayats
somewhere else and then they're put in
there right and so even if we know now
some people have tried to do this as
well but to say that Al was generally
revealed later on but in response it can
be said okay maybe the bulk was revealed
later on but this Ayah itself there's
nothing incorrect to say it might have
been revealed earlier because for most
of the verses of the Quran we don't have
a specific timeline of when they were
revealed okay any question for the
Sisters I have don't see any hands from
the sisters uh brother go ahead and the
back go ahead you're next don't I saw
you go ahead
yes it was just
interesting for may not to hear from the
arguments against version two and
version three just from a simple logical
perspective that
Muhammad s to teach
understood and and uttering those words
is going against everything that he
understands and I just imagine that
happening it just like it would seem
that this is he would have turn you know
this doesn't make no sense given what
I'm here to to bring and is there any
comments on that why that argument was
not brought so uh the question is a very
good one and for those who didn't hear
it is that why uh somebody could say why
didn't the prophet himself if versions 2
and three are authentic why didn't he
himself red light start going off and
saying what's wrong with this uh of
course those who follow version one
story will say that's the whole point
right and they will say he didn't
because it didn't happen you understand
this point right those who follow
versions two and three uh of course
version two as well doesn't raise that
issue because version two you don't you
didn't he didn't hear it it's only
version three that raises this issue and
where there's a will there's a way to
interpret it and so what they would say
is this is his complete submission that
whatever Allah subhana wa taala is
saying it will be accepted and he's not
going to question if Allah is saying
that you may go through these beings to
reach me then that is what he is saying
because his job is to give the B and not
to question that is going to be the
response I don't agree with version 3an
so I would agree with you and say it
doesn't there's
something something is just not right
you have a question go ahead anybody of
the scholars think these two verses
supposed to be add to the Quran oh no no
no no the question is does anybody claim
that these two verses are part of the
Quran only non-muslims claim this nobody
because even the language even the it
doesn't fit the style of the Quran even
the language
yes B A Lot ofic points I mean it raises
a lot of questions about for example the
poers of the of what can he do and what
can that's number one number two you
raised about the the level of quote
unquote minor mistakes that that you
said that or the may do in this sense
this does not seem like a minor mistake
because this is you're talking of
Revolution you're not talking off of
judgmental decision that's and the third
point I was going to bring to you is you
brought in another point of how the way
is process for example one of the points
you bring in is the is not just
processed as it is being revealed but
sometime it is like in DNA we have a
medicine it's called splicing of the
jees the genes are corrected in a way
once the B come together to prod the so
may Allah is Allah in a position to
reprocess the message okay you're asking
three questions I need to go one by one
too many like he said those are the
three points I'm referring to basically
oh no these are three different points
so let's go one by one what was your
first one I completely
forgot the question is how much power
does how much power does Shan have as
much as you give him as much as you give
him said contr my to a level
that he's he he's now that's what no but
that's his this is himself doing it
you're getting confused that's his
personalan every one of us has a the
prophet Allah has allowed his to become
Muslim in this shanic versus that's
doing the job the big Shan doing this so
that is not a Muslim is not a Muslim I I
will forward the second question third
one the question is when the has been
processed it seems that Allah has
ination Allah says it's can
but it seems from what you said what
from is that the processing of the has
been done even Beyond The Way by the is
that corre so for those who accept
version three they would have to modify
for versions one and two is not a
problem for those who accept version
three IB clearly says this that the was
not tampered with that's the whole point
that Allah did make his verses clear are
we confused about what the Quran is no
and that's the point so w was not
tampered with an attempt at tampering
was made and Allah rebuffed the attempt
that's I's point it was by it was made
but it was rebuffed and so there is no
confusion in our times right uh sisters
no questions at all I'm wondering
usually you have questions huh scared
they're scared of the
story uh yes go
ahead from a non-muslim perspective um
how would you respond that how does was
a prophet any Prophet shared between a
body and somebody trying to musl from
this incident and also from the in of
IIM for where he was inspired to offer
his son for sacrifice so how does he
know is that a true message or is
that so do you understand this is why
the non-muslims love this
story that's exactly why they love the
story that there's one if you're the the
question is how do you defend that the
prophet any Prophet not just our Prophet
can differentiate between uh the from
Allah and between Shan now for those who
don't believe in our Prophet or any
Prophet how do they explain Islam one of
two things either the prophets are
outright Liars in which case this story
becomes a political maneuver right that
he's trying to appease as a politician
then he comes back or he's
duded and he's hearing voices and he
doesn't know who they're from either
it's an internal or it could be you know
Once Upon a Time Christian missionaries
literally thought that and to this day
Pat Robertson and others they say he's
inspired by the devil he did get
inspiration but that's what they say
right and so again this is the story
that they jump on now we need to be
academic here and say even if they
misinterpret it there is a correct
interpretation thatb can also get out we
need to be clear here right
misinterpretation should not cause us to
reject or even though we disagree with
it academically but to defend is very
easy and that's what says that we do
know what is Quran and we do know what
is not Quran and in the
end Allah will make hisat crystal clear
means to make a crystal clear and that
is exactly what happened in the end
there is an element of faith I I can't
scientifically you know demarcate
between this and that there is an
element of faith and we can give us
proof that the Quran has never been
disagreed about since its very beginning
all Muslims have agreed what is the
Quran these two verses have never been
falsely attributed even those who say
version three no it is not a part of the
Quran so there is an element of faith
that they will believe this Quran to be
from Allah we need to call it