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world's fastest growing way of life in
the world we know that in Islam there's
no such thing as boyfriend girlfriends
no dating you can't test test strive you
can't abuse and use women women have so
many rights in Islam it's amazing and
more women are coming to Islam than men
and the creator has legislated and
approved that a man is able to since
nowadays you'll see this is something
that is rampant men are having
tens of dozens of Mistresses on his side
cheating on their wives it's rampant
it's all over Society it's something
corrupt it's evil it's disgusting so God
Almighty has said you know what if you
need this you need to
fulfill this that you want to be with
another woman you have to take her as
your wife and give her the same rights
as the first wife something
beautiful you can't use and abuse the
woman and we're going to be discussing
this with Dr balow Phillips who's
written a book called polygamy in Islam
and we're going to help clear up the
confusion answer some of the questions
that some people might have here on this
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and for you and uh inshallah we do hope
that you will convey this knowledge
correct authentic knowledge about Islam
to your various communities out there
got a big Salam from the shake for
everybody so we're going to be you're
the you're the author of several books H
how many exactly have you offered
authored
sh well uh it's someplace around 50
something um exactly what the number is
I don't remember but something 51 52
books something like this and one of
those books that we're going to be going
over
today is polygamy pogy polygamy you're
going to Define all these words for us
but we know that Islam is based on Five
Pillars the first of which is that the
human being comes to the realization
what's inherent in his very nature that
there's only one God that God is not a
man or woman but he's the creator of man
and woman he created this whole universe
and everything in it then the human
being is going to submit to all the laws
and injunctions and all the beautiful
things that the Creator wants him or her
to do then he's going to accept the last
and final messenger sent to mankind the
prophet Muhammad peace be be upon them
and then you have the establishment of
the prayer five times a day minimum then
you have the paying of the poor do the
zakat you have the fasting during the
month of Ramadan and the Hajj if you're
physically and financially able once in
your lifetime those are the five pillars
of Islam and now you have all the other
beautiful things and one of them is
polygamy so we want to pick your brain
we want to go over the book a little bit
so the the not yet Muslim and even some
Muslims can understand this because
Allah the Creator is the most wise so he
didn't reveal or give any sanctions to
anything that wasn't wise and wasn't of
benefit to the human being so if we can
start off with kind of an introduction
of why you wrote this book and then we
can maybe go from one chapter to the
next and you explaining some of
this okay
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UMD uh all praise is Du to Allah and may
Allah's peace and blessings be on the
last messenger of Allah and um the book
really was a product of entering into
polygamy I myself back in the early 80s
I think it was about 81 82 I married a
second wife a second wife you said a
wife not a
girlfriend well and yeah it wasn't the
girlfriend no Mistresses in Islam No
Mistresses in Islam No girlfriends none
of that stuff we don't play around yep
definitely it's marriage or nothing yeah
so um you know after marrying taking a
second wife of course you know I was at
the time a recent graduate from Medina
University so um I did have some kind of
legal knowledge you know Shar knowledge
about you know what are the rules
concerning it but they were limited so
you know uh when I first got married I
realized that this it was important for
me to have a thorough knowledge of uh
the legal structure
governing plural marriage because of
course uh you know that's a requirement
for every Muslim that whatever field
they enter into they should be
thoroughly grounded in the knowledge of
that field so as to avoid doing what is
displeasing to God and to ensure that
what they do is pleasing to God so I
began to study uh a chapter uh from one
of the classical works of f it's called
um Al
by the great uh scholar from Gaza from
Palestine uh I Kama and
um I began to
translate the uh rulings and
explanations which he gave there and um
my second wife at the time uh Jamila
Jones who became the co-author of the
book uh she is specialist in English
uh she worked on you know presenting the
material uh in a a strong or a a good uh
English format you know because of
course what is translated tends to be a
bit rough you know you have to work it
over so we worked together I did the
translation providing the information
and she did the writing and we both
edited it together so that was the uh
reason for writing the book also it was
because of the fact that I knew you know
people in the states uh from when I
first came into Islam I had met brothers
who had more than one wife you know in
New York um some brothers in Canada in
Chicago in uh Detroit you know but you
know everybody was basically doing their
own thing you know and uh you know they
were making up their rules as they went
along so the sisters were always
complaining of this and complaining of
that and you know hear these stories
horror stories through my my wife so um
I wanted the book also to be of benefit
to uh those who were now entering this
field and had little or no knowledge
about it at all so uh it in fact it was
one of the first books which I published
you know I published myself I think it
was back in about
1986 or 7
I published it in New York City you know
um basically publishing myself and uh
since then it has gone through many uh
editions of course over the years it's
um been reprinted I don't know how many
times and
um that was basically the story of how
it came about I mean there are other
things that of course I added you know
which have to to do with explaining some
of the rationale you know which is of
course not what I was initially
researching myself uh explaining the
rationale to a western mind or to those
you know U cultural Muslims who are
ignorant of its permissibility you know
and who may oppose it not understanding
the wisdom behind it so a section of the
book does address some of that that's
what we want to get into next it starts
off in your book and anybody can pick
this book up it's called polygamy in
Islam by Abu Amina sh bow Phillips Dr
Bal Phillips and it starts off with
early Christians were
polygamous so can you go ahead and dwell
into
this well uh the main idea that we want
to convey when we're talking about the
concept of polygamy is that Muhammad
sallallahu alaihi wasallam Muhammad may
God's peace and blessings be upon him
the last prophet did not introduce
polygamy to the world it's not as if the
whole world was monogamous and here came
Muhammad back in the uh 7th Century uh
6th Century uh with this polygamous idea
no what we must understand is that
polygamy has been in human society
wherever you go in the world it's not
something new it is everywhere from the
North Pole to the southern tip of Africa
to the jungles of Borneo you know to uh
Japan China wherever you go people have
been practicing it now they've practiced
it according to different rules they've
set up their own set of rules but it's
in practice I mean even the societies
that claim to be monogamous like West
Western society today a Christian
tradition you know appears to be opposed
to polygamy but this is just a recent
change of events this is not the way it
was when you go back to early
Christianity you find it was commonly in
practice and it continued to be in
practice in in h Europe all the way up
until like the 16th 17th century so uh
you know because once you go into the
the early prophets right the prophets
who Jesus affirmed confirmed uh used
their teachings quoted in his statements
those prophets whether it
be uh Abraham whether it be
David uh you know Solomon all of these
prophets were themselves
polygamous uh the fact that Jesus didn't
marry I mean this has nothing to do with
monogamy or
polygamy this was I mean this was just
the facts of his life circumstance and
we believe of course that he will return
and complete his life cycle here on
Earth uh and some say that he will
actually even get married have kids
whatever I don't know but uh the point
is that his life was not complete on
Earth anyway so he is not an example in
terms of his non marriage you know his
celibacy because if that is supposed to
be the ideal example then the human race
would just die out with our
generation so obviously you know uh
marriage was is a part a natural part of
human life and polygamy is just one of
the ways by which people can marry we
don't want to look at polygamy you know
as another marriage
no uh marriage can be to one person or
it can be to more in both cases it's
marriage and that's you know that's the
position you know that we're coming
from and that's the position of Islam so
what Islam did was it basically brought
uh organization
systematization to the practice of
polygamy I mean you can see it in judaic
teachings you know Mosaic teachings it's
there uh the laws are there in
Deuteronomy Etc laws addressing issues
of polygamy you know when you have more
than one wife what you're supposed to do
so and so and so so it's clear it's a
part of the of of Mo the law of Moses
it's there so uh the point is that Islam
has
only added
order right an organization to it it
says limited it to four it states that
if you're not able to look after more
than one then it's not permissible for
you to have more than
one go ahead so this goes for when you
say early Christians this is also
including Jews also so early Christians
and Jews were yeah poist that's what
that's what I said when you're going
into the followers of Abraham Abraham
himself you know having uh two wives
and it's and it's stated in the Bible
it's it's his second wife Hagar was his
second wife yes she was the handmaiden
of of Sarah but when she was given she
was given not as a girlfriend she was
given to him as a wife he took her as a
wife so Abraham who is considered to be
the father of Judaism Christianity and
and Islam he himself was a
polygamist and of course the term
polygamy you know of we need to uh
clarify that though we commonly use it
to mean a man who has more than one wife
actually polygamy could go the other way
a woman having more than one husband the
proper term is polygyny that means a man
having more than one wife and polyandry
is a woman having more than one husband
yes so now you go on continuing in your
book polygamy in Islam you go on in the
self-denial as it being a way of life
and you give some examples from the
Greco Roman lifestyle and hear somewhat
how things took a turn for the change
can you go ahead okay you know the thing
is that we what we were pointing out
that you know in Greece and Rome the law
of the land was that a Roman citizen and
a Greek citizen was not allowed to have
more than one wife that was the law and
that's what became the dominant law in
Europe later on how however realities of
Greece for example was that more than
half of the population were
slaves and uh of course half of them
were women and uh the the Greek citizen
while not being allowed to have a second
wife who was herself a citizen he could
have as many concubines as he wished so
this Con concubinage whereas he's having
slaves functioning like wives with him
he has regular relations with them he
has children by them Etc you know uh
this existed in both Greece and Rome so
uh this was a
problem uh which the society just turned
a blind eye to the children were
considered to be illegitimate children
what Islam came along and said no you
married her those children are
legitimate those children are your
children they must take your name you
know so this what Islam did it brought
order it protected the rights of those
children who are born in those
relationships it also protects the white
rights of those women you know those
women that they be wives and be treated
like wives and and have the rights of
wives going going on here to the next
part you also talk about that
monogamy protects the males and you and
you give some some uh wonderful examples
can you talk about what you meant here
in this chapter where how does monogamy
monogamy protect the
males well if we consider that the
decision makers of society are
males and
males would benefit or or or do benefit
from polygamous relationships
with the question is why would they want
to make it
illegal we say
that by making it illegal to have more
than one wife they remove from
themselves the
responsibility for looking after more
than one wife that's the point so they
can have a wife and then have
girlfriends Mistresses you know
prostitutes all these other things you
know without any responsibility they can
have these relationships but they're not
held responsible children born not held
responsible so they are by Banning it
making it illegally making it a crime so
a man who decides to have one wife and
he decides to be just and honest and
fair and take a second wife he's labeled
a bigamist that's a crime for which he
can spend time in jail right whereas a
man who has has girlfriends he's got a
wife but he's got girlfriends Mistresses
he's got children coming here there all
across the country he is looked at as a
hero you know he is a good family man
you know and hey we've seen all the
examples from the top to the bottom of
the society you know of people being in
involved in these kinds of relationships
so we know what going on it's all around
us you know it's it's it's it's just out
of hand what Islam
proposes is controlling it giving it
system protecting the rights of those
involved especially the rights of women
and children you know and that's why the
the males of the of Western Society in
general
promote uh
monogamy and made illegal polygamy to
escape the
responsibility of
legal polygamy so getting away from the
responsibility seems much easier just to
have your fun on the side and kick the
woman to the side you don't have to pay
her uh phone bill electric bill her rent
uh take care of her like a human being
that crime treatment and The Identical
treatment that the first wife gets is
that now the truth where both women in
Islam you have to treat them equally the
same rights that the first one gives the
second one gets cuz that might be a
question that some people have does this
belittle one of the wives when you take
on a second wife does that give the
second one a higher status or the first
one a higher status or one a lower
status uh the wives are equal they are
wives first second third fourth none has
a position higher than the other that's
the basic law I mean of course a second
wife
may be respectful you know to the first
wife since she was there before or
whatever uh I mean that's other issues
of respect but in terms of uh the uh
status before God uh the status in
economics or social uh rights it's the
same so your time is divided you got
four wives then it's one day for each uh
or it could be if they agree upon doing
two two two two two that's possible too
but uh each one has equal right to
time now someone also cuz we cater to
the not yet Muslims those who are not
Muslim yet and we hope that they become
our brothers in faith everyone has a
clean page when they're born in original
goodness and now when they come to that
adulthood they got to decide are they
going to worship a man monkey or the one
who created this whole universe and
everything in it and that's what Islam
is calling the individual to now there
is so much wisdom behind all of the
injunctions and the sanctions that the
creator has bestowed upon the human
being so one thing that out of their
many misconceptions is that they feel is
this something like uh where if a man
takes on two three or four wives what is
it is it just like a you know a big
party and they throw them all in the
same room it's like a herum you know
some thing from out of a movie that they
might have seen is this like something
that's out of control or is are there
like is there a blueprint from A to Z
how everything needs to be conducted
morally uh uh uh purely uh can you go
into this for a
second
sure the arrangement just as uh the
general Arrangement is adding legal
status to the wife uh as the first wife
and we said all of them are equal as the
first wife has a right to her own living
space then the second wife has a right
to hers and the third and the fourth I
mean that's what makes it a bit
complicated and difficult uh I mean of
course if we look at Mormons how
traditionally they were practicing
polygamy where you know the man becomes
the central Bank his wives are out
working he's got like 30 wives or
whatever they're out working and just
you know sending the money into the
Central Bank he's just a central Banker
he redistributes the money you know and
he sits back uh no in the Islamic
perspective the man is the provider so
he has to go out and provide for all
four of those wives they they don't they
have no obligation to go out and work
and it's his responsibility to provide a
home for each one of them it could be an
apartment building in apartment in an
apartment building right each one of
them has an apartment you know if he's
getting houses then each one of them has
a house so I mean this these are things
which make you know polygamy not that uh
feasible in modern uh Western Society
because of the cost of living Etc but
where you go to other societies where
the cost of living is much less you know
requirements are much less then it's
much more feasible and and and practical
and possible of course if a man marries
a wife and she says well listen or he
wants to marry a wife and she says
listen I can take care of myself I just
want to have a husband I got some kids
for example I want them to have a father
figure you know Etc but you know you
don't need to provide these things for
me if she wants to forego these things
that's her option you know we can't say
this is not permissible no you must
provide even if she's capable and she
wants to you must know but you must be
prepared that if at any time she can't
you are responsible
it falls back on you yes before I go
into my next question can you just I
mean this is a topic in and of itself
but can you just exposee on some of the
rights we we say that Islam has given so
many rights to the women has uplifted
her and
has given her things
that many women in this Society are just
getting or they haven't even gotten for
00 years ago can you just briefly touch
upon some of the rights and the way
Islam elevates the Muslim
woman well uh I mean the the topic is
actually a huge
topic um and really when uh we see
how
the negative
forces uh who are opposed to Islam uh
direct their attack we see it focused on
the woman and the oppression of the
woman in Islam and they like to you know
hold that up as their card their main
you
know calling card or their winning card
or whatever you know look what these
Muslims do to their women so when we
look really you know at the the status
of women in Islam and we consider if we
want to start from the most basic
concept
of a woman in Islam how is she viewed
before God we see the Quran repletes
with so many statements about you know
man is responsible to this and the woman
is responsible for that you know they're
equally responsible to worship God
they're equal before God but they're not
equal in the abilities and and faculties
and things which Allah has given them
they're equally responsible to worship
God but Allah has given them different
roles they are complimentary roles so
what we find in Islam is that the woman
has always from the very beginning been
looked at as being an
entity a a being who has equal
responsibility before God
when we look at this concept in
Christianity we see that in the Middle
Ages Christian theologians were debating
whether women had souls or not you know
if we looked in Hinduism uh the woman uh
is considered to be virtually nothing
she's just for the use of the man um she
has no
value uh so when her husband dies
according to this principle of seti the
woman is supposed to uh climb on his
funeral p and be burnt up along with him
because she has no value after his death
so I mean this is a
common Concept in one form or another
found all over the
world all over the world in Islam we
find the prophet Muhammad wasallam
saying that paradise is at the feet of
your mothers elevated the mother to that
status when a man came and asked the
prophet s wasallam who most deserves my
companionship and care and concern he
said your mother then he said who after
that he said your mother and who after
that still your
mother after that there's
nobody he said then your father you know
so we see from this as well as you know
many other statements of of the Prophet
may God's peace and blessing be upon him
where you know he protected the rights
of women he stopped the practice of uh
burying baby girls alive you know out of
shame because the everybody wants to
have a male child so it was a common
practice in Arabia different parts of
Arabia to bury the baby girls shortly
after they were born or in their early
years bury them alive you know
so uh Islam prohibited that and elevated
the status of the woman gave her for one
her whole name when she gets married she
doesn't change that name the name
indicates genealogy so a woman if her
name is Fatima Ahmed it means Fatima the
daughter of Ahmed now if she gets
married to Muhammad Med who is the son
of
khid she doesn't now become Fatima
Khalid no she remains Fatima Ahmed her
name is not to be tampered with because
it indicates her genealogy of course
it's only just in recent times that you
know women in the west you know have
sought especially big stars and stuff
like this movie stars and things like
this you know have sought to retain
their own family names however as a
normal practice in the Islam you know it
is actually not permissible to change
the
name uh you also have for example the
right to own
property to have your own property in
your own name and to dispose of it as
you wish your wealth and your
property this was only something given
to women the turn of the century in the
West in America
women prior to that didn't have a right
to own property of their own they didn't
inherit the inheritance went to the the
the eldest male you know these kinds of
principles were what were in place in
Islam from the get-go in the Quran right
away it states there that a portion is
to be given to the sons and a portion to
the daughters a portion to the wife
portion to the sister portion to the
aunt know all these people have rights
in the inheritance of the wealth of a
man if he dies or a woman if she dies
then her daughter has a right just as
the son has you know her sister her
mother you know all of these people
sharing the inheritance of course it is
not equal but this is where of course
the West raises the hand two portions
for the male one for the female it says
that of course this is not in all cases
in fact it's in specific cases only in
most other cases it's equal but in
specific cases son and daughter you know
father
dies half is
given of what is given to the male is
given to the female so they say why why
is that shouldn't they be given equally
well in Islam men are responsible for
women a woman from the time she's born
to the time she dies is uh respon a man
has been placed responsible for her
whether it's her father or brother or a
son somebody or Uncle somebody is
responsible for her and if there's
nobody to society takes on that
responsibility that is how a woman is
treated in Islam she has looked at a
precious and as such you know uh she is
taken care of in the best way possible
so since a woman has a brother to look
after her does it make sense that if the
father dies she and the brother should
receive the
same well okay basically they both
receive the same but the brother should
be given an additional amount because he
has to look after his sister he also has
to look after his mother so common sense
tells us that more should be given to
that male because of his role in The
Society of course when a society goes
away from the natural order from the
natural way and they now go into a
strictly man woman they're completely
equal on the books on paper in reality
even with all the legislation and
everything women still do not get the
same wages as men that's reality North
American
reality women men in all of the various
Fields do not get the same though they
have the same qualifications Etc they
don't get the same as men that's the
society in Islam of course equal pay for
equal
work
but in a society where we're saying okay
no they're actually equal you can have G
Joe you can have GI Jane you know so
therefore everything should be right
down the middle
okay so in that Society where it's
looked at in that way then know right
man is equal to equally responsible for
himself he's not has no responsible for
his sister okay sister she's equally
responsible for herself she has no
responsibility for a brother okay so you
want to divide it equal fine you can do
that but reality is that the brother is
not really equal to the sister they are
different yes in
society the society is still going to
favor that brother over the sister and
this is Norm I mean we don't not we're
not saying they're not exceptions yeah
you know we do have opro wirey you know
we do have Palin we do have you know
women who are out there who seem to be
you know more favored than men but hey
there are few and far between where was
the American female president I mean you
find female presidents in you know
Bangladesh back to back you know you
find found them in Pakistan you found
them in all the Muslim countries even
though Islam doesn't encourage it you
find them there they've been there you
know but in the Western Country which
calls for the democracy and equality and
everything where is that female
president
interesting so I know you can go ahead
and talk about the wonderful beautiful
rights that God Almighty the creator has
given to the woman in Islam but our
topic here now we're going to continue
on with polygamy in Islam and we're
going to continue on talking about some
of the chapters in your book talk to us
a little bit about the wisdom you have
here in your book polygamy in
Islam quoting some of the statistics
from the Center for Health and
statistics that women usually outlive
men
and outnumber men and you use this as a
statistic as this being a solution to
this problem of there being a surplus of
women can you talk about this Dr bow
Phillips well uh if we consider as a
general principle that there are more
women in the world than men whether it's
because of the
wars you know who's kill getting killed
in the wars whether it's because of
violence in the society mostly it's men
killing other
men you know or whether it's biological
at the time of birth you know less men
survive the process than
women uh you know living longer women
live on the average 10 15 20 years
longer than men you know all of these
factors lead and and
cause a surplus of women in most
societies around the world except for
the those that have
artificially artificially you know tried
to weed out
women you know and favor men places like
in uh in India and China and things like
this where this number has become
unbalanced because of the fact that you
know people will once they find out what
kind of child they're having you know
they did the ultrasound they know it's a
girl abort bang right away right off the
top if it's a boy okay fine so once they
you know because you're in in China for
example you're only allowed to have one
kid so that's it you got one shot
so you want a boy so if you are of that
Strat of the society where you can
afford to
get uh ultrasound then you abort it
before it's born if you're not then you
pay the Midwife to kill it
at the time when it's being
born and so you have a cplus of males in
China and India but this is abnormal the
norm for the rest of the world is that
there are more women than men us Russia
Germany
Etc so if a man if you have so many
women not enough women to go around or
not enough men to go around for the
women and of course with the rise of
homosexuality then the numbers become
even greater then it means that certain
women a portion of the women will be
unable or will not have an opportunity
to live a married life they the only
option left for them is mistress or
girlfriend and funnily enough when they
did surveys amongst Mistresses and
girlfriends in North America in us they
found that 99% of them when they were
asked whether they would prefer to be a
mistress or a girlfriend you know or a
wife they all agreed that they would
prefer to be a second
wife because who wants to live like that
amazing that's natural you know that's
reality of course if you ask the first
wife would you prefer your husband to
have a girlfriend mistress or a second
wife she would say girlfriend or
mistress amazing why why because she
doesn't want to share you know she wants
him all to herself okay if he wants to f
and play on the side okay play on the
side but not another wife who now
becomes my competitor I got to you know
share with her no see unfortunately
that's just you know uh we could call it
you know greed or excessive jealousy or
you know just
stinginess in a
sense so you know the other point that
one needs to consider here uh because we
talked about the equality thing so women
usually raise the issue well uh why then
can't a woman have four husbands but we
just said hey there's a surplus of women
in the
society so if you woman has four
husbands is that improving the situation
or making it worse obviously it's making
it worse furthermore you know it's
natural in people that if a child ask
the the the father or the mother ask the
mother you know who's my dad and she
says one of these four guys hey who's
going to feel comfortable with that
you know whereas if a man has four wives
and the kids ask who's my mother or
who's my dad do they have any problem
figuring out who is the mother and the
dad of course not so you know that's a a
major issue because you find people
spending their whole lifetime trying to
track down who their dads
were
uh so uh we can say in general that you
know Islam in polygamy elevates and
protects the rights of women and
children that's it actually does now
moving along you also here in the book
you talk about and the book we're
talking about is by Dr Bal Phillips
polygamy in Islam and I'm sure you can
Google the name in the book if you're
interested we're just giving you some
highlights of the book you quote a Dr
Masters and Dr Johnson some uh key
researchers who they talk about the male
sex drive that's different from women
this is clinical research has shown can
you talk about
this
um the reality you know I mean of course
this gets into a lot of uh biological
issues you know with regards
to uh male female
needs uh and uh
even those uh what they call call them
um evolutionary biologists have even
argued for example for
polygamy uh showing that you know it's
clear in the animal species that when
The Lion King you know or King Kong the
gorilla you know he takes so many wives
and he blocks the other males that what
is happening here is natural selection
of work you know where the one with the
strongest genes these are what are being
passed on to the next Generation so you
know the this evolutionary principle is
what
drives the you know certain animals you
know into polygamy and human beings
being only a talking version uh you know
they're the same so these are among the
uh things that biologists and others
have have suggested you know um women
tending to to be attached to one man it
is a a norm you know whereas men you
know tending to uh have no difficulty in
attaching to more than one woman you
know this has been an international Norm
talk to us also isn't there isn't this
also a mercy to those women who
have lost their husbands and you
mentioned the woman of war and if your
wife from for instance she cannot have
children you want to have children so
this opens up the door that you don't
have to leave your first wife you can
keep her and also for those women that
have multiple children they lost their
husbands and now this is a great way in
Islam for a person to get a lot of good
deeds from the crater by taking on the
responsibility of another
family yeah um in spite of the harm that
women May perceive in it reality is that
it is for their betterment in the
society it's better
for
alleviating problems which will exist
otherwise whether it is the spread of
you know um various uh sexually
transmitted
diseases Etc this doesn't happen in
polygamous Society it happens in
promiscuous societies where men take on
girlfriends Mis issues ETC and um
definitely the war
widows those who you know lose their
husband for one reason or
another instead of becoming a pariah in
the society as in many societies they're
looked at as bad Omens even people don't
want to be near them they don't want to
around when they have children these
type of things because they feel like
you know a bad om here she comes now the
Widow know in Islam
Islam encourages and the society absorb
them back into natural and normal family
life you know through
polygamy we went on from the beginning
talking about that this has been a norm
since the beginning this has been
something that all the Messengers The
Best of creation they practice they
implemented it and then we talked about
where it took a change it took a turn in
the groman Roman Greco Society where
even then you had stated that they had
concubines they had their little toys on
the side that they played with but they
can only have one wife is that
right and then we that's and then we
talked about the wisdoms we're almost
coming to an end right now now in the
last few minutes that we have is it
allowed for for a man for a man in Islam
because you turn on the Jerry Springer
and you see you know 11 12 13 year olds
having boyfriends and you know the boys
it's cool to have multiple girlfriends
can you talk about now for a man in
Islam is it at all allowed for that man
to watch pornography to do self-pleasure
or for a woman to do the same because
the pornography business is a
multi-billion Dollar business is this
allowed at all self-pleasure this
completely prohibited completely
prohibited in Islam actually even to the
display of women exposing you know
elements of their body you know in
newspapers magazines Etc all of that is
prohibited in Islam so the woman is not
used as a you know as a sex toy as a
means for selling products uh you know
she's just used and abused in this way
through beauty contest and all all kinds
of things Islam really prohibits all of
this and calls to you know uh Simplicity
and protection of the woman because all
of this we see as it increases in the
society we see a a a a similar rise in
the rapes the attacks on women Etc you
know that are H happening in the
societies around us and there's no doubt
that this you know exposure on dressing
of the female in any given Society is
really exposing her to more and more
harm now how would you how would you
explain in the last few minutes again
that we have a few more points we got to
get in tell us for the woman now who
sincerely you know she wants to do God's
Will and and now she's asking but how
the pain that it brings upon me the
jealousy Factor how do you compensate
for this the harm that she might say
that this might inflict upon
her
well you know when you take an
inoculation we take a a needle to
prevent a greater harm there is some
smaller harm that comes to you it hurts
when you go to get your tooth pulled out
and they you know stick in the Novocain
there's some hurt there too but you're
trying to avoid a greater hurt so we
just have to keep Focus that this
permission in Islam is to per to to
prevent greater harm in the society as a
whole and the smaller harm that comes to
the wife that she is patient with it and
it becomes purification for her as Allah
has
promised so there's a great reward for
her patience and is as you said there's
a great a greater good that comes from
this so do we have anything in history
where because of this happening in that
time when it was a norm where they had
women dying because of this pain or
having to be committed or were they
dealing with it and were they living
happily with their cowi was an
institution of of goodness of
Happiness well we can see that in the
world today you know in those societies
where it is in practice people are fine
with it you know where people have grown
up with it they don't have a problem
with it it's of course where Society has
grown up with animosity towards it you
know where uh it is negative it is done
in a bad way or whatever uh you know
where people people see the harm greater
than any benefit and uh and they oppose
it but in those societies where people
have been practicing it it remains a
part an acceptable part of the society
then people are able to handle it quite
easily quite comfortably and the society
moves on you know that uh and and the
the harm that it prevents is obvious and
the good that it brings is clear
so last closing comments and and advice
for those who now they're getting a
different Persona a different
perspection about just this one facet in
Islam but we know the main thing is that
you establish a direct dialog connection
with the one who created you but now
this misconception has been removed the
not yet Muslim can see some of the
wisdoms behind this it's his heart is
getting a little softened what advice do
you have for that individual whose ears
are still glued and they're listening
and they want to learn more about Islam
because they they're they're growing in
attachment to it they like
it my final words really would
be to understand when you think about
polygamy understand it within the
context uh of Islam that Islam has
provided laws to govern every aspect of
human life
that when you become a Muslim The Way
Forward is clear you're not bumbling
around anymore should I or shouldn't I
is this okay or is it not you know
there's clear guidance there polygamy is
just one element one aspect of Islam you
know where uh human needs the needs of
human society are taken care of in a
logical practical way and uh we should
look at it as being something exotic or
strange or weird Etc no it is actually
the norm what what we're living in our
societies today uh where people are
involved in you know all these
extramarital Affairs you know when they
did their surveys amongst the husbands
in North America you know the percentage
that were involved in extramarital
Affairs was humongous it was shocking
you know so what is good what is really
good I mean that State of Affairs is
abnormal it's sick it is corrupt it's
bad so we need to get properly focused
and understand you know what really is
good for human society and what really
is bad and no doubt the creator of of
human beings and the society in which we
live he knows best and he has made polyg
permissible within bounds within with
laws to govern it to protect the rights
of those involved and to protect the
society from the harms which come from
extramarital relationships thank you
very much may Allah the Creator reward
you people if they want to get a hold of
you if they want to learn more from you
where can they reach you well the best
route is through the Islamic online
university that is
www Islamic online
university.com that's the best route my
classes are there uh you can join the
diploma classes which are free
completely you join there anytime take
any courses you want or you can join the
ba course which has a nominal fee of
about $100 per semester but it's going
towards an accredited ba degree uh they
can you can take full courses there
lectures with lecturers uh qualified
Islamic phds masters from different
parts of the Muslim World teaching in
its courses Dr Phillips sh thank you
once again may God Almighty the Creator
Allah reward
youum it's been my pleasure to be with
you again brother Eddie and we hope to
be with you many more times in the
future yes I look forward to that too
salam alaikum peace be with you alaykum
Salam peace be with
you peace the solution for
Humanity
peace is what we need for you and
me peace the solution for
Humanity
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