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How are you doing? Alhamdulillah.
Alhamdulillah
for having me. It's a pleasure.
Uh thank you. Thank you for accepting
invitation. I want to jump right into
it. Um I heard you were just recently in
Laza.
Yes.
And you you started off in the beginning
of describing your experience there and
I want people to really imagine this. I
mean imagine your neighbor
um was flying a drone in your yard. How
upset you'd be, right? and you couldn't
it was disturbing you and and imagine if
we had just another country flying
drones in our America here let's say
people from Mexico or our neighbors from
wherever else drones all over the place
uh you get upset if you got a fly in a
room and it's just buzzing buzzing is
driving you crazy describe that you know
so it could really hit home like people
this is literally I heard this before I
was like come on I can't be this here
but you were describing ing it and it
was like this is this is just incredibly
insane. It is absolutely um the first
time I heard it uh the next day when
they were taking us in a tour to the um
hospital and I was like what is that and
then they said oh that's the drones
that's how they say it oh that's the
drones and then look up look up I
couldn't see it fine this was just like
the beginning but then when they showed
us our room where we are staying and
it's a very small room two windows my
bed was next to the window and then when
you are on that bed literally a bees in
your ears nonstop
and then I start asking the people there
what is this oh literally like you and
me drinking water oh this is the drones
and I said and what does that mean
doesn't that bother you they said we got
used to it they got used to so many
things you and me and many of our
viewers will never even think imagine
they will go through it let alone live
it and they said oh if you hear the
drones don't worry smile I said smile I
am he said yeah because when there is
drones that mean there is no bombing
they're still discovering it's when they
are silent you need to get very scared
and believe me brother Eddie it is so
scared when they are quiet
and what what are the mission of those
drones
locate and bomb basically kill
they're killing machines
killing machine with accuracy
wow
they see what they want and they just
attack it So, you ended up going from
here, America,
you're a board-certified medical doctor,
and you end up in Gaza. How did that
happen?
I begged Allah.
And I really wanted to go. You know, I'm
sure many of us are feeling what are we
doing, right? These are our brothers and
sisters. This is injustice. This is
suffering. What are we doing? And I once
I came to know that they are taking
physicians
from February I think I start really
applying to all these organizations
and I didn't get any positive response.
I was in Makkah. I normally spend
Ramadan in Makkah and I really made a
lot of dua to Allah. Ya Allah open it
up. Subhan Allah. And when Allah opens
it up he opens up in three days. I
reached out to somebody I know. They
said yeah we can take you get ready two
days. Get your ticket. get. This is what
they say. You sign papers. You're not
probably you're not coming back.
Anything happens, it's your choice. And
she said, you probably can get to
because you have to go through Egypt.
You can go to Egypt and you will not be
let in. You can get to Rafa, the
Egyptian side after 12 hours of driving.
Anything can happen. They will not let
you in. You may get to the other side,
they will not let you in. Get ready. And
subhan Allah, you know what? Allah makes
things happen. You just go and you say,
"Allah, take me." And if you didn't take
me for whatever the reason, I will still
be rewarded. Alhamdulillah. Best thing
ever happened to me. I'm really grateful
to Allah.
So, you're literally they have you sign
a paper that pretty much
it's your responsibility.
So, your choice.
It's like this is it.
This is it. And once you enter, you
cannot leave earlier.
You enter in a day and you leave in a
day. And I want people to understand, I
mean, you had recently you had those
those volunteers, humanitarian aid
workers, not just one, two, three, their
their cars. They were going and they
were supposed to have an escort. And you
would think, okay, now they'll be safe.
They're they're humanitarian workers.
And each one of their cars got bombed.
They were ahead of us. We took the same
road they took. Same day
you took the same Wait, same. Among them
are an American Canadian dual citizen, a
Polish citizen, an Australian, and three
British citizens. Their driver and
translator who is from Gaza.
So when when you reach to uh at least
this was in April, when we when you
reach to the Palestinian, there's
usually two ways because we're in the
middle.
We were assigned to
so there is the main road that was one
taken so nobody can use it. So they take
you through an a side road which is very
much parallel to the sea but it is not a
road. It is just dark and you get right
to low, go left, go right, go left. It
is so scary. This is one of the moments
I thought I will die. And I told the the
the physicians with me in the car or the
volunteers and I said let's sayahuham
so if anything happens to us we will die
on the we reached the hospital at 8:00
p.m. they the world kitchen came to the
hospital at 9:00 p.m. dead
world kitchen that that's what
that's where they were exactly three
cars and they were attacked.
You're definitely in a in a deaf zone.
you're there that at any time you can be
just obliterated.
Absolutely. I mean because there's no
reason why. And by the way, I mean the
cars including theirs, these are usually
everything is signed UN and WH. I mean
it's not just a regular car. These are
all they have like especially they put
it on the top because
you can't miss it.
You can't miss it.
It's all over the car on the top,
bottom, side, left, right.
The drones has lights and you can see it
right away. So, but no rules are being
respected. It's like
I don't know if there's any rules to
start.
There's no But you you have like UN
Yeah, you have ICCJ, you have all these
World International organizations,
Geneva Convention. It's like every rule
is like being vi violated
in front of this is the hospital just
and it's the hospital the road it's very
simple. The the house three probably
three blocks from the second entrance of
the house. The house is all destroyed,
right? one only survivor was all
civilians. You don't know why this was
attacked. Now, somebody was actually one
of my colleagues, non-Muslim. She asked
me, "Did you see any uh tunnels under
the hospital?" I said, "We didn't see
anything. We the only people we met were
civilians. These are like you and me and
you know, young and old and women and
and half of them were not even patients,
but they took refuge in the hospital
because it's the only place that has
electricity."
What do you like to say to people? I
mean I to get them to understand
what's really going on for the novice,
the person who's like, you know, because
at first glance they try to make you
feel like it's so complicated, right?
And but it's pretty straightforward when
you just get informed properly and you
get the facts and you understand that
this is not a Jewish Muslim thing. I
tell my Christian friends, my Jewish
friends that look, if these were
innocent Jewish babies, if these were
innocent Christian babies, no matter
what, all human life is precious. This
is this is something that
um is clear us as Muslims who adhere to
the to the verbatim word of God
Almighty, the Quran. It's
straightforward. It's sad to see. I
don't know if you've seen some of those
videos where people uh some religious
people are actually condoning this. I
don't know if you've seen some of those.
It's scary.
But the point is right here that Hashem
say do not have mercy on the children.
But in Islam, it's straight cut. You
cannot harm non-combatants. You
infrastructure destroying all there's
clear rules of engagement, right? So,
and then the land theft, you know, the
stealing of other people's uh land, uh
the controlling of their food, um the
apartheid, you know, the open air prison
or open air concentration camp, you
know, the daily oppression of people,
soldiers going in people's houses and
sleeping in their beds and it's just
unbelievable.
What do you like when you speak to
others who are kind of not understanding
the situation and they think, okay,
because they're trying to make the
narrative like they just want to
eradicate all Jewish people. They just
want to, you know, this is their
survival. They have a right to defend
themselves and this is for their
existence even though historically there
was peace there when Muslims ruled.
Absolutely. I think generally people in
general regardless and I fully agree
with you. I always tell people it's not
a religious conflict. It is not I mean
Jews lived with the Muslims. I mean I
grew up in Iraq. We had one of my best
friends were Christian. We had Jews. It
is basically it is a land issue. You
have your home for the the longest you
can think of and then as somebody comes
in in the last 75 years and come to your
house and says this is my house you're
out. So that's number one. Number two is
the daily life. I'll give you one
example. So the all the viewers will
know this. The Palestinians are usually
extended families. So you have here
somebody living in Chicago and somebody
let's say living in California. You want
to go and see your family. What do you
do? You take a plane or you take a car
and you go right natural norm not in
Palestine. So if the family lives in
because I asked them about this they
live in Gaza and their let's say brother
lives in the West Bank. Normally the
drive is maybe an hour hour and a half.
You can't do that. Number one, there's
no airports. You cannot fly from Gaza.
Can't or from the West Bank. So what do
you have to do? You have to go out to
Egypt. And from Egypt, you fly to
Jordan. And from Jordan, you have to
drive to get to Jerusalem and then to
the West Bank. This is about two days,
right? Number one. Number two, imagine
this. They told me there's a three
things that it is not allowed to come to
the country even before all this.
There's no chocolate. There's no ice
cream and there's no pencils. Why is
that?
Repeat that. No chocolate, no ice cream,
no pencils. What?
Yeah. Never. It's not allowed.
Did I hear that right? Ice cream.
Yeah. And it's like, why? Why? I I I
still need to We heard this.
Maybe they're trying to watch people's
health. They're trying to uh
I would love that. I would I would be
very happy if that's the case. So,
that's that's number one. I think people
the misconceptions are the following.
Number one, they really need to go to
the root cause. The root cause. This is
didn't start in October 7th. This has
been going on for years. For example, I
went I used to visit Jerusalem, you
know, go and pray there. And I have met
many Palestinian lives in not in Gaza.
They can't the other places. It took
them a day to come in a in a normal 30
minutes and an hour because of all the
checkpoints and you can you cannot and
all the humiliation. It's their daily
life. So that's number one. Everybody
needs to go and read about the root
cause. What is happening? Number two,
what happened on October 7? Somebody
gave me a very beautiful analogy there.
They said, "Okay, so your ch your child
hits the child of the neighbor, right?"
Mhm.
And you say he had no right to do that.
Okay, then what do you do? You go around
and you destroy the whole house of the
neighbor. Is that fair? Is that how it
is? Is that how I defend myself? So
there's a lot of exaggeration. There is
um humiliation. Children with no I saw I
can't tell you what I saw. I saw
children no future. Eight-year-old alone
in the hospital lost everybody. I see
him every single day wearing scrubs
pushing the uh patients beds. The last
day as I was leaving I was like wow you
really smart young man. He said looked
at me and children by the way there are
men because their life pushed them to be
men way younger. there's no childhood,
right? And he said, "I'm going to be an
orthopedic surgeon." I said, "Wow, yes,
inshallah." And then he said, and then
my companion, I mean, he said he lost
all his family. He's been living in this
hospital, eight year of age, eight years
old, living in this hospital for the
last four months alone. Nobody. They def
divide the orphan into four categories.
Imagine imagine this is any of our
children. a a child who lost everybody,
including extended family, so he's the
only survivor. You have a child who lost
parents but still had some extended
family. A child who lost a father, still
has the mother or the other way around.
Four categories,
woman, young and old, either they are or
became a widowed already or they don't
know what is the men of the family.
don't talk about value about valuables
about homes about money. They don't
think about this anymore. The basic
right of a human living literally is not
there. The basic the base you a clean
water what is a clean water for you and
me? What is a bed for you and me? What
is food? And I'm not talking about
luxury food. I I I I had it first day we
arrived. It's Ramadan. started fasting
and they said we are sending you thear
by 9:00 p.m. was they brother Eddie they
they brought me I have the pictures of
it that three cans one is hummus one is
beans and the third one I don't know
what it is so I said I'm not opening
these two not waste and they said for
you we're getting you a piece of bread
so I took three piece wah I mean and
Allah is my witness I have pictures of
it I took three bites of the hummus I
know what is hummus and I said
alhamdulillah it was 9:00 p.m. rest all
night. I was throwing up. My stomach
couldn't take it. And these people were
living on it for seven months. When we
were there for seven months wh why and
why that long?
So these are things that now the the the
you know every human being I mean has
good in them obviously you know we we're
we have this uh built in us I mean to
distinguish basic things that are evil
and many people are seeing the evil
that's being in 4K right before our eyes
and and many are are speaking out you
see a public shift happening and it's
unfortunate that um some people are
going to go on the wrong side of
history. they are on the wrong side and
they don't switch now they're going to
end up
Yes.
Um so when when you are there and you're
seeing these children and you'll see to
get people behind this you have to paint
the people like they're animals. They're
not like me and you. They're they're um
you've heard this uh term emc right?
You've heard these terms like um we have
to get their children because they'll
they'll grow up to be you know um
they're scared of the children even
growing up and so they dehumanize and
then now it's like okay my conscious it
shuts off because these are not human
there and other people in history were
also called when they were oppressed
they were called rats and they were
called others to go ahead and justify
but it's unfortunate now they're doing
the same thing to these beautiful
young children and you've seen those
children. It's like what's the majority
of them were even also refugees from
absolutely displaced
displaced. Um and how was it how many
it's like 50% of the population there is
like under the age 18.
Absolutely. Yeah. I mean if you look if
I now remember the scene in the hospital
uh you see
at least at least 40% I'm just giving a
rough Yeah. is children
just children
children
they're at war with were children
it's children and then you see probably
actually more I will say 50% are
children and then maybe 30% are women
and then 20% are men either they are
injured they are disabled or they are
older
and the children still with all this
brother Edi they are children you know
what we gave them the last day because
there's things they told us bring with
you so we brought with us of course
gloves They don't have.
Mhm.
And then as we were leaving, we had this
box of gloves. We were giving it to the
children. You know what they did with
it? They blew it and made it as
balloons. And you should see the
courtyard of the hospital. They're all
jumping playing with the balloons. Why?
Like your child, all our children,
right? What is balloon? And the only
this color or that color. What is cakes?
What is chocolate? Right? again. Ice
cream, dessert. What is this meat? Meat.
Meat coming from here because we stayed
about 5 days. No meat. The day they
brought us a big huge, it's a famous
Palestinian dish major. At the end, I
put my fork. I was telling my roommate,
I think I feel something at the bottom.
Literally looked and I said, "Wow, piece
of meat." I took it out and I was
showing her. Can you believe it? And for
us what is made? But this was only five
days.
Now what about them?
I I think humanity needs to wake up you
know humanity and and and look at
everyone equal. They need to live
equally and there is always ways of
solving problems without this.
I I I don't have a word. You know, many
people have asked me. I said, I can't
there's no word to describe what I saw.
It's it's beyond it's you just feel
where are we heading
here? You mentioned something about
death and I just want to put um a
disclaimer here because I heard one
politician once he's saying they worship
death like Muslims. Um but obviously we
prepare for death by doing good deeds by
living our purpose in life that our
creator lived us uh created us for to
worship one and only one god and to be
morally upright and we know there's a
paradise at the end and in a hellfire
and this life is not just it. So that's
when we talk about death. No Muslim just
wants to die. But you mentioned here
they talk about death like you and I
talk about what we're going to have for
dinner
because they have no choice.
That's it. You and me talk about what we
have for dinner because we have choice.
They know actually me for for eight days
us the group we prepared ourself that we
may not wake up in the morning. I didn't
make the choice. I I never thought of
making this choice. But everything
around you makes you feel you can die at
any second.
That's their life.
Absolutely. That's the because if the
drones is on your head 24/7, what do you
expect? If you are praying or you or you
are seeing patients and then you hear
huge bombing, you are in the middle of
the ER and suddenly no not even uh
ambulances, they don't have it. Cars
suddenly rush in. You know they are
bringing and they bring dead people,
they bring injured children bleeding. I
mean scenes you I have personally seen
it only in movies
and subhan Allah. So, of course, you
have to prepare yourself. Like, you're
going to the desert for camping. What do
you prepare yourself for? You're going
to prepare yourself for it. It's going
to happen. You don't want it. You're not
planning on it, but that's the
possibility. That's the same way they
are.
Mhm.
They said,
I I want to get you um this is one one
example of a reaction. Um usually people
when they're in these situations, they
just lose it, right? They're cursing
this, cursing that, cursing God, just
all over the place. But I want to get
your reaction to this. Is this just a
unique individual or is this something
that we're seeing the response from the
majority of people like this?
Alhamdulillah.
What was she saying for the people who
she was she was talking to God and says
you took my house and I said all praise
to you. You took security I said all
praise to you. You took my son the first
one all praise to you. There's no food.
All praise to you. Now she is mourning
her second I don't know second or third
son I couldn't get it and she said uh
all praise to you and she's talking to
her son you're going there give uh
greetings to theatam
and then um something in that we will
see you that's very normal
it's normal huh
that's very normal I've seen it more
than one one time uh young children um
this one story which really hit hard on
me because I did see that we were
praying. It was Ramadan. So it was salah
and like 2:00 a.m. a young a young
13year-old come in and join us 2 a.m.
and then after two units he moves to the
front talked to the imam. The imam goes
back the the 13year-old
lead us then he finished then he looked
at all of us young man telling us a
small beautiful uh poem about Palestine.
He was Palestinian. Okay. Why I'm saying
this? Because then the imam looked at
says you know the story of this boy. I
said no. They said he was with all the
extended family in one building. This is
how that what happens to them. So they
all crumbled you know like 50 people in
one building and then they got hit that
building right? He lost everybody except
three his two cousins and himself. So
they came in to to save them. They saved
the two cousins. They forgot him. But
what was he carrying in his hand? This
is a 13-year-old boy, fiveyear-old. His
cousin dead for three hours. When this
other cousin went to the hospital, he
said, "Oh, he's still alive." They came
back and pick him up. When I spoke to
him, this is what you hear.
They they have
faith in action, faith. Uh, and I spoke
to another woman who the story was
beyond me. And I said literally, I said,
"I'm a woman. You are a woman. How can
you live this?" And she said, "I raised
my children on living in the way that
pleases God and in all everything is
lawful and then this life is temporary.
One day we all going to be out." She
said, "Anybody stayed here forever and
then we live this life to the way that
pleases God. They are connected." And
you're not talking about people who are
um like PhD in Islamic studies. You talk
about ordinary people. That's what you
alhamdulillah. All praise to Allah. The
only word of complaint I heard for 10
days because I speak the language. So
I'm talking to people asking them
everything. One she said in the Arabic
we're getting tired. That's it. That is
it. Look at me and you and us from the
morning till the evening. They are very
strong
goal oriented. They know again we're
dying. There is heavens. there is hell.
We're gonna be taken accountable. And
they believe in the cause.
They believe and they they pray. I
didn't see anybody didn't wake up for
didn't see anybody who didn't do whether
individual or came with us. They're
different. This is how I I left and
saying there is different people. You
know when we read and and teach about
Sahabah the companions of Alatam and you
said how did he carry the flag and then
he's going to go you you see these
people when you grew up on not too much
luxury and everything is given and your
basic rights are taken. You learn to
adapt and you learn to focus and you
learn to to to live differently. So they
do not worship death. No they don't. If
they worship death, why do they kept
showing me their pictures before and
after? This is our home. Before they
show me pictures, people I didn't know
these are the people. Average person
lost 25 kilos. I was like, "This is
you." But they said, "You know what?
Whatever God bring us, we have to take
it and we will live the way it pleases
him. But we are still defending our
rights."
Yeah. It had me think uh when Jerusalem
here when it was historically I mean
people can check and this is history
that's a lot of times they don't teach
you in school when the Muslims were
ruling Jerusalem you didn't have this
kind of stuff people being oppressed you
had people given their rights
you know the people of the book they had
they were a protected people uh people
were really living in a relative peace
is this correct
yes absolutely even in Medina
in Medina what the prophets peace be
upon him Muslims were there. They're
ruling. They are the power.
The Medina. Yes. The Medina charter.
But then Jews were living there as long
as they respect and the other they have
their rights everything. As I told you,
I grew up in Iraq and my friend was
Christian. There was a lot of Jews. They
chose to leave or they chose to stay.
But it's again it is not about religion.
It is not about religion. This is again
this is an historic. This is a land that
was given unjustly to other people and
even the other people why can't they
live together as everybody else lived.
Why it is they have no rights the other
side at all.
You mentioned uh this is interesting. I
have not seen a woman not covered and
saying that if we die you know they're
still preserving their their modesty
that they're
it was
this is actually I asked her. Yeah. This
is the same woman who said, "I raised my
children on halal." I have not seen a
single woman. I didn't see a hair of a
woman in those old days, including the
woman who I delivered and did a
C-section for. And I and I thought, you
know, it's because they don't have
resources. And she said, "No." So when I
die, I die covered. See, they are
they're different.
So many lessons we can take now.
Absolutely. From from seeing these,
you know, they say, "Oh, thank you for
coming. May Allah reward you for coming.
you helped us a lot and I said no you
helped us looking at this life very
differently and what does it mean when
you have principles and you live by your
principles
are you seeing a rise in people
accepting Islam
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You're seeing a shift you know
perception now of Muslims is changing
you know even despite the media
duplicity are you seeing it firsthand
yourself?
Absolutely. Yeah. Um there's even
throughout this time there is a shift.
Social media is is is not people are
faking it. I mean these people are on
the ground and they are seeing it and
anyone any human being they can see
maybe not as much as I saw because I was
there but you see the reality and people
absolutely and increase especially
between women you know when they see the
Palestinian woman I hear it. I was like
this is the this is how the Muslim woman
should be. Why? Because of the Quran. I
want to read the Quran. They read the
Quran, they become Muslim.
Mhm.
It's absolutely
uh you mentioned a young boy and his
dauntless, fearless attitude where he
went up. I mean, this is a young kid.
Young boy. And he went up on a tank or
something.
Yes. This is the same mother.
Yes.
With the son who they were they were
from the north. They were displaced
three times. And the fourth time she
said, "I don't know how we survived, but
it is not the time for us to go." So
they told her, "Go and walk next to the
sea. If the sea is on your right side,
brother Eddie, you're going south. And
if the sea on your right, if the sea is
on your right side, you're going south.
If it's on the left side, you're going
north." Okay? So she said, "Where do I
go?" He said, "Go and walk on the on
parallel to the sea, meaning you go
south." She said, "I want I took this
12year-old boy." And then she said,
"Barefooted, no food." She said, "We
reached a point where I, the mother, I
can't do this anymore. I need something
to eat or a drink." And the boy kept
telling her, "I can't walk anymore. I
need something to eat." She said, she
looked up, she saw a soldier. So she
went up to the soldier. Yeah. What's the
possibility you will live? She went and
she said, "This boy is hungry. Give me
anything just just to keep him going."
So he gave her like a piece of cake,
right? So she told the son, "Come up.
The son come up." And the son is 12 year
old, a short tiny and he saw a tank and
he jumped on the top of the tank and
then he saw what's what's inside the
tank and he said the two soldiers in the
tank pushed for backward. They were
scared and I can't remember his name and
I said weren't you scared? He said no I
just want to see what's inside.
What is this?
I literally I have no words. I was like,
"Ya Allah,
I want to go ahead since we were talking
about the hijab and the woman's modesty.
There was a unique situation of what's
allegedly a IDF soldier and I believe
this is in the UK.
Is anybody else in
anybody else in order to have this
discussion?
We'll speak to you about this in the
police interview." Okay.
Yes,
I need you to repeat that.
Dirty Muslims
insulting a young girl.
You are vile. You are below prison for a
human being. How dare you?
And you're not.
How dare you? Look at you. You're the
one hands on winning. Disgusting.
You're trained. I'm fully trained as an
MMA fighter. You don't want to touch me.
I'm an IDF. You
don't want to touch me.
I'm give two flying Don't touch
me. Get him away.
I be
real.
So, it's not IDF, it's
IF.
That's what they say.
Yes. That's the the term they use
and and that stands for
Israeli offensive forces or is Israeli
occupation forces?
Occupation forces because the only
people defending themselves are the
innocent children and innocent people
there. So what do you think when you see
this now? You see that uh this person is
representing himself is IDF
and now he had taken off. I guess he
assaulted a probably the one recording
is not the Muslim woman but no
he she was stepping up
the one zak
so he went and started assaulting a
Muslim woman and you're somebody who
also obviously imitates uh Mary the
mother of Jesus we discussed this in our
last program
and when you see this I mean such a
coward I mean this is just um and then
the man steps up and then he just
shrivels up but uh when you see that
what's your reaction
I tell you what I see I see a lot of
goodness in this, but not from that man.
Yeah, that man I feel sorry for him. You
know why? Honestly,
because he's a human being,
but he's misinformed. There's a reason
why he's saying this. Simply because he
doesn't know. Like many many human
beings, he doesn't know. Because if he
went with me to he saw what I saw, he
will never do that. He will never do
that. But what I really liked is the
non-Muslim woman. Why? because she's a
human defending a human.
Yes.
And she's a woman defending woman
dignity. Nobody has a right to attack
anybody, right? Publicly. It's a freedom
of choice. Whatever you want to
practice, practice as long as you're not
offending other. And then I like the two
men. May may Allah bless the two men
also. The two men who came in and when
you could see he's becoming very close
to the other woman and then the man came
in in between both. Yes. This is how we
should act. When evil comes in, we as a
human, we need to stop that evil, not
defend that evil.
Imagine if this man, all these people in
the station defended him, what will
happen to this woman,
the other Muslim woman, what will happen
to them? They will be attacked.
Yes.
But when everybody stood up with the
right thing to do, this man became alone
and finally he got arrested.
Mhm. Yeah. And then uh the common the uh
common attacks are that and he starts um
with the derogatory language and you're
anti-semitic and whatnot. You know what
do you like how do you like to respond
to that?
What again? Why this is anti-semitic?
This is nothing to do with Jewish or a
Muslim. Right? This is a Muslim woman.
Is she Palestinian? I don't think so. If
I am correct, I think it's the colored
woman. She's not a Palestinian. Why you
are attacking a Muslim woman? Why did
she say anything about against the Jews?
Was she carrying something about the
Jews? Did she say did she act? It's just
assumption because that's what we are
feeding everybody. And this really there
is a lot of responsibility fall on many
to make sure people know the truth and
let them then decide. But don't feed
them that if you say anything with the
people of Palestine, you're
anti-semitic. No. Because there. I'm
sorry, but there is people in Palestine
that are non-Muslims.
There there people Jews who are
there are Christians also who are also
Palestinian there.
And there is Jews who live in in in here
and live elsewhere who are saying this
is what is happening is not just
they're saying not in our name. Yeah.
Not in our name.
Yeah.
So people who whose heart is alive,
their heart is not dead, their humanity
is on.
Yes.
They can see the injustice that's
happening there and people are starting
to speak out. I I thought I thought this
was interesting this uh next clip here.
Yes.
Because um
it kind of because it revolves around
him trying to take out the hijab and so
many misconceptions about revolve around
that. And I usually make the example of
Mary the mother of Jesus. If you type in
in Google Mary the mother of Jesus,
she's going to be having what you have
on.
Yes.
But this video kind of shows different
countries with women in the hijab.
goes back to what you were saying,
education. Like when you see look at
these uh historically when you see when
you go back, what did you say the to um
how far back and you see pretty much
women preserving their modesty, modest
dress, they're like wearing hijab,
they're not even Muslim.
Absolutely. Because
bashfulness you know and humbleness is
not related to religion only it is
related to humanity as a human beings we
are
we look at ourselves differently and
Allah created God created us to look at
ourselves differently we need to be
covered I mean it's a verse very well
known in the Quran in general right
cover yourself don't Let shan this the
Satan lure you to take off your clothes
um um
subhan Allah it's not coming but the
it's inah where don't let lure you to
remove your garment and the garment of
piety is the best garment but again
because we we really need to read
history brother Eddie I mean as to make
a fair judgment on anything you need to
read history what's happened. Reality
number two is people have the right,
right? They always talk about the right
of people to choose, right? A woman
decide not to cover and a woman decide
to cover. That's a choice you made to
obey Allahh for the Muslim woman to obey
Allah or not to obey Allah. I don't have
the right to come and offend anyone
because I am not God. I am not I have I
can say my opinion of course but respect
we are losing this respect to humanity
respect let alone to women this is
public this is underground in in I don't
know if underground or train station
why where is the reason for this did she
provoke him
no she was walking because the woman was
telling him yeah she was walking
this man was misinformed misinformed
misinformed with a lot of hate and
filtered in in him. Hate, that's what it
brings. Every ci every um extreme bring
another extreme. And we really need to
come back to the middle.
Uh and that that's the um ironic thing.
You see a lot of people, they're tag
teaming up and their relationships are
based off hate. Hating
uh Muslims and hating pretty much the
unknown.
Yeah. Uh because when you really get to
know Islam, like most people now when
they're they're seeing this um what's
going on in Ghaza and then they're
opening the Quran, they're reading for
themselves and many are even accepting
Islam. And then when you see you study
the history and you see uh the the one
that um Jesus's mother that this blessed
woman, the most honored woman in Islam
wearing hijab and historically you see
women preserving themselves. Then you
see what Islam's core message is, the
preserving of the the absolute oneness
of God, the monotheism and being morally
upright, being a good human being. And
then you see, wow, these are things that
I can connect with. These are things
that make sense.
Absolutely.
And uh
the main thing Islam came in to protect
the five, you know, this
the five basics, which is number one is
life.
Life,
religion.
Yes.
Um uh property.
Yes.
Sanity.
Uhhuh. and uh um uh honor.
Yeah. Yeah.
Any of these
remember life before religion
human being life is very absolutely it's
very sacred. This all came Islam to
preserve not to destroy and if people
know that then why do you have an issue
with Islam? I think Islam is the most
misunderstood
religion and people don't present it let
alone the media of course and everything
connect with Islam even if it is not
like remember ISIS did ISIS has anything
to do with Islam
right and then propagate it
the same way the KKK doesn't represent
Christianity
Christianity exactly right so I think
the most important thing for everybody
Muslims and non-Muslims educate yourself
go to the right source and I'm so
grateful to Allahh for something called
social media.
Yeah.
Because it brought reality. I mean I was
there. I was seeing it. It's not someone
told me.
Uh you brought up ISIS. I don't know.
Some people said ISIS stands for
something else other than this. Have you
you know the abbreviation?
No.
The Israeli Secret Intelligence Service.
If it were to have initials, it would be
ISIS.
Okay.
All right. So, uh, in conclusion now, so
you spent some time. May God, almighty
Allah reward you. There's doctors still
to this day going there. Can they still
get there with everything that's
happening?
They're not in
What's the current situation now with
Rafa?
Well, there was a group who came after
us and then they were stuck there for
about a week. Yes.
But now all of them left. I met two of
them last week. Yeah. Um, and then I was
just told this morning there's a group
supposed to be in inshallah, God's
willing, they will be go leaving on the
17th of June. They really need that
help, brother.
The health system, I don't know if I've
called anything left over,
if there is any health system. I did a
C-section there and it's so ironic. I
did a C-section there and the day I
landed, like the first day of work after
I came back, I did a C-section.
The woman comes in right not a single
requirement of hygiene meaning she's
covered by a blanket from whatever she
is not her hair covered by her own uh
hijab you bring her to the operating
room nothing on the operating table
there was anesthesia because there was
some medication but there is the basics
when we do C-section and here what size
of gloves right what instruments he used
there Dr. units only seven and a half
one and a half size my hand I had to do
it I have no other option right no cery
no suction right sutures what they give
you whatever and you just work as I
finished they call says a patient is
bleeding after surgery so I go on to see
her right normally here in the United
States you go you see look at the
patient face and you look at the monitor
so you know what is going on I go I look
up there's no monitor there's no blood
pressure
it's amazing and then you just use your
whatever you know whatever I just held
her hand and I checked the pulse I said
the pulse is strong she's fine no
medications that normally we have here a
cascade of things you do I said we only
have this medication I said give it to
her you start praying and you ask Allah
to keep her strong she looks at you and
says I'm fine the patience makes you
even stronger so this is the health
system nothing I mean they they are
extremely resourceful
here like I can't do this because that's
not the right instrument they they not
the right estimate. They make it the
right instrument. They don't have it.
Final um words. I mean for for people
here. You got um I mean just we have so
many blessings where so many things
you've complaining day and night and uh
just listening to this. I mean this
should really be a wakeup call for many
of us here and you know to really uh
when you mentioned you didn't see one of
them not waking up for fudger you know
praising and thanking their creator
instead of cursing you know the day and
the night and god and um reminding
ourselves about death they can I mean if
it's written they'll survive some of us
can be die tomorrow right and we're not
taking the dean seriously and um getting
involved in all the things that we some
people shouldn't be involved in and you
know what lessons what did you take from
that coming back and what what advice
I will say to everybody listening to us
number one literally the word we use but
we don't use it seriously count your
blessings
count your blessings
count your blessings you know what does
it mean to have a clean bathroom we were
physicians one bathroom for 30 people
for the hospital 300 people count the
blessing of having clean water have food
h and safety
safety. You sleep. You sleep and you
wake up and there is nothing around you.
You don't know what is going to happen.
Are you going to be dead or alive?
Number two, for us as Muslims, this is
to the Muslims. We really need to go
back to Allahh. We really need to start
practicing our dean the way that pleases
Allah. Let not that this life with this
all the luxury that Allah blessed us
would take us away from him because
could be me you anyone listening that
turn back to Allah sincerely and he or
she is pleasing to Allah make this dua
ya Allah and and it will end for the
non-Muslim the same thing let not the
focus be this life nobody will live
forever anybody nobody and then there is
after it there is accountability And for
the non-Muslims especially or even the
Muslims who are not very well educated
about this topic, educate yourself. Read
history. Read what is Palestine. Read
what is read about the pe read about
1948. Read about the Bellfor um
declaration all these. So you have an
idea. This is a an end and I hope it is
the end. This is basically the result of
a long history of injustice. Injustice.
Injustice in every human being. Every
soul should stand up for injustice. We
see animal when injustice is done
against animal. We as Muslims and as a
human in should stand up for that animal
because he's defenseless. So how about
when we see all these children and
women. Subhan Allah.
Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.
Absolutely
for the invitation. May Allah
make it easy for everybody. Allah remove
every injustice on this earth and make
everybody live in peace.
Amen. Thank you. Absolutely.