hi there that's to see you how old is
fer 101 although he's 101 fouger has
never had surgery he shows no signs of
heart
disease and he takes no
medication he believes that his long
life and his incredible health is down
to his diet so any particular diet uh he
has no particular diet it's a simple PAB
be Farmers diet
of just fresh food but his secret is has
smaller
portions in poor countries people die
starvation in rich countries people dive
OV eating so how much does he eat
compared to you or I uh he would eat
what would be considered half a portion
almost a child portion it's a child
portions probably about half the amount
of calories you I would eat this is the
the
welcome back to the dean show and I'm
with uh not one but two special guests
Michelle Gillespie and Jim Marlo hi U
you guys have been studying nutrition
for how long now and tell us a little
about yourselves Michelle uh I've been
studying nutrition uh since I joined the
Peace Corp in 2004 um I at that time I
was eating chil cheese burritos and a
bunch of junk and the peace score said
you're going to be a nutritionist um and
I guess they made a pretty good decision
and that was one of the things that got
me interested in nutrition and I've been
learning more ever since and yourself
you're no stranger to the show 40 years
you were sick and tired of being sick
and tired and so for 40 years since then
you took a turn and started not quite 40
years but um at the age of 20 I reached
a point in my life where I was sick and
tired of being sick and tired all the
time and I decided it was time for me to
take responsibility for my own health
and learn how to be healthy and
nutrition was a big part of that and um
I began to develop my nutritional
Integrity very important concept
nutritional Integrity is all about
setting standards for what is acceptable
food and drink for your body and then
being faithful to those standards and
nutritional Integrity always involves
eating real food rather than fake food
that we talked about last time I was
here and that was at around the age of
what 20 right so you're going on 40
years you've been you've been studying
this going on 40 close to right well I'm
I'm 58 so yeah yeah tell tell tell us
now um
the food that you're eating MH can that
be food that is actually helping you to
live a more vibrant life or actually it
could be killing you of course yes well
the the food that that Michelle eats the
food that I eat is helping us to be as
healthy as we can be so we can live our
life more fully and more richly because
uh how how fully and richly we can we
live our lives is very much dependent on
our energy our vitality and that's uh
that adds up to our level of Health um
the the better we nourish ourselves the
easier we make it for our body to be
healthier at the very least Le let's
talk about Michelle some of the
consequences of not eating right not
nourishing your body with what the fuel
that it really needs the the the the the
fuel that helps you to live a more
vibrant healthy life the consequences of
not doing that and how important this is
yeah well it affects everything but I
think the the top three that I like to
think of are energy and mood and mental
Clarity uh if you're not eating very
well energy affects everything you do
got we got energy but what what was the
other one energy mood and mental Clarity
of top three I mean this is I mean right
there you can see the majority of of of
of people out there you know you feel
that sluggish feeling you know you're
not getting up able to get up and be
vibrant food is definitely one of the
leading causes if not you know the
culprit at the top uh at least four out
of five people that that that we do
nutrition and health counseling with
will admit to experiencing various
degrees of brain fog at various times
you brain fog meaning that their their
their level of clarity is not very good
uh their memory is not as good as as
they know it could be they have a
difficult time concentrating their their
reading comprehension is not very good
um all of those um uh those um
symptoms that can generally be called
brain fog they can be caused by eating
fake food by putting sugar refined
processed carbohydrates into your body
foods with all kind of chemical
additives and chemical residues from
from pesticides um for instance um
pesticides um they kill bugs because um
they're they're poisons pesticides are
poisons and specifically pesticides are
neurotoxic they actually damage the the
the the nervous system in fact they
destroy the nervous system of an insect
that's how they kill the insect now the
government agency called the FDA which
is supposed to be there to protect the
American public from toxic substances
and the food supply they say that
pesticide residues are fine they kill
bugs but they don't they don't cause any
harm to people well there's no science
supporting that position but that's an
understandable business policy in
support of the commercial food industry
but pesticides not only are toxic to
Insects they can also be toxic to
animals and also human beings and
specifically neurotoxic there's a
nutritionally minded neurologist by the
name of Dr David pearlmutter who written
a number of books over the years U the
better Brain book he wrote a very um
popular book just uh few years ago
called Grain Brain anyway in his better
Brain book from about a dozen years ago
he had a chapter in that book chapter8
uh getting the the toxins out and he
identified IED as a as a neurologist as
an MD neurologist he identified
pesticides as being the most harmful
chemicals that Americans are routinely
exposed to that can ultimately
contribute to what we what I mentioned a
few moments ago about the the very
common symptom of brain fog okay your
child is mine uh got a nice gift you
think okay your your schoolmate uh wants
to share because you know all right you
don't want to be stingy but how do you
address the issue show how do you you
know
you get one of these could you guys I I
like in my old days i' love to eat this
I'll beat a box of them what do you guys
have to say what is this uh this is a uh
Danish Suite wonderful opportunity for a
mom and dad to to begin to educate their
their children about the difference
between real food and fake food yeah
kids are very impressionable and uh they
like to to look at what their parents
are doing what their older siblings are
doing uh so first of all the parents
setting a good example for themselves
for their children is is a great start
um I've worked with a family with a
four-year-old and she will not eat candy
anymore she's four it's awesome she uh
um learned from her dentist that cand is
bad from her teeth she learned for me
that cand is not good for her health and
you know hearing it from all these
different sources now she is she's
actually more firm than her parents in
not eating candy what about the common
response you usually get well in
moderation okay we we don't eat it every
day maybe couple times a week what's the
big deal is as a reward now for the kids
you know they're doing good so we we
throw them one of these or some some
lollipops and you know some other junk
food well do you just want to be a
little bit healthy or do you want to be
really
healthy that's a very good point and
it's also important to understand that
um sugar is a highly addictive substance
refined and processed sugar as I
mentioned in our previous show together
is a is the most common addictive
stimulant that people use and it and it
it and it does have addictive qualities
to it so
there's in the in the uh although
someone may have the intention to only
do a little bit of high sugar fake food
like this um it's PR it's a precarious
practice
because many people although their
intention may be to just do a little bit
of it the more they they make that part
of their lifestyle the more prone they
are to actually doing more than a little
bit and they can begin to do it on a
regular basis and more the more and more
they do it the harder and harder it's
going to be for their body to be just a
little it's never just a little it's
it's like there's a piece of candy at
the doctor's office even at the dentist
office there's a piece of candy for the
kids and they go to school and there's
cupcakes I mean it it doesn't usually
it's not usually just one if it were
really just one that would be different
it doesn't stop there so we're making
sugar addicts from a young age if we
continue with that yeah you know I I I
know uh many parents have the I think um
uh incorrect attitude about uh about
offering their kids uh very commonly
available sweet sweet treats so you know
like uh um ice cream and cookies and
cakes and and all that type of of stuff
and they they they feel like if they
don't allow their children to have some
of that that they're depriving their
children I think a better way to think
of it is that your children need to be
protected your children need to be
protected from fake food and all the
marketing all the the the the millions
and millions of dollars that go
into promoting marketing fake food with
addictive qualities to children so I
don't think a parent is depriving their
child by saying to their child that this
is no this is fake food you don't this
this is not something you want to eat
you want to eat real food instead and
educating your children you're not
depriving them you're protecting your
children I like that protecting it we
can you want to
protect to don't you you love them you
want to protect them we'll right back
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below back here on the dean show and
we're trying to save lives can we
technically say that by by educating
people in this this area of something
that's it's not too complex to
understand you can actually actually end
up saving lives we're trying to save
lives we this is a serious issue what
what Michelle Gillespie and I and all
real nutritionist um have to offer
people is how they can save themselves
from unnecessary health problems so you
give them the proper education the
proper information now it's up to them
to decide obviously but this is let's
talk about the consequences give me a
few like diabetes obesity this is like
at an epidemic today yeah what other
chronic diseases now you can take the
advice and then this is the positive
outcome or you don't and you continue on
and what are you going to suffer from
high blood pressure give me give me some
more come talk to me well um just about
every symptom uh potentially Under the
Sun everything from allergies to zits so
to speak um but if the body is not being
nourished properly it's only a matter of
time before it begins to break down in
one way or another um we all have
um very much in common but we have our
differences we all have our own um
unique genetic strengths um and um if if
if if you put 10 people together um all
eating fake food um they may all break
down in different ways yeah for me it
was insomnia I had I had a big problem
with insomnia and improving my nutrition
really helped that and it doesn't seem
like something that would come from what
you eat but there are a lot of things
that you can do with nutrition to
improve your sleep that that's profound
so now you have insomnia you have
diabetes you have heart disease we
mentioned all of these ailments now most
people are also taking some sort of
prescribed drug and that's obviously not
taking care of the problem is it that's
maybe masking it can that be linked back
to food yes many people don't look they
don't look for the culprit in food right
the the um uh the father of of of
medicine who to this
day um Physicians graduating medical
school have to take something that
called the Hippocratic Oath um and the
Hippocratic Oath is is named after
hipocrates hypocrates was a Greek
physician who practiced several thousand
years ago and um his what's that oath
again Do Do no harm well that's part of
it but um uh some of the wisdom that
came from hypocrates was was this very
simple and profoundly important wisdom
let your food be your medicine and your
medicine be food that's deep let food be
your medicine and Medicine be your food
right and most people this this doesn't
seem to them that is f fathomable they
don't they don't grasp this I mean I I
I'm I'm Amazed by it but most people
when you have a a a Coke a Pepsi potato
chips uh pizza burger is that your
medicine um that's actually a
prescription to create health problems
that will actually when you go to a
conventional medical doctor then they'll
they'll put you on so-called medicine
which never addresses the cause of the
problem when's the last time you've been
to the doctor you go every you go check
up every couple times a year three times
when's the last time I um I haven't I
haven't been to a doctor because of a
health problem uh since the
70s oh how about yourself um I visited
an osteopathic physician not not on a
regular basis U but I I do go to him
once in a while for health maintenance
yeah for health maintenance absolutely
you this this seems like this might be
getting in the way I mean uh you you
people like you if everybody's healthy
like this we're going to put some people
out of business like well the most
important doctor any of us could ever
know is the doctor within ourselves our
body knows how to be healthy it wants to
be healthy the direction of our life
force energy is always toward towards
healing and health if you cut yourself
it heals you know if you get injured in
a in a martial arts workout or you you
injure yourself uh uh any other way um
through any activity that you're engaged
in
um your body has a capacity to heal
itself the healing doesn't happen
magically the body needs to be supported
well enough in order for us to realize
our full healing potential but the most
important doctor any of us could have
respect for and to honor is the doctor
within ourselves I need to the person
says look they know they need to lose
100 pounds where do they start how do
they start they're addicted to some of
this to there's habits now that they
accustomed to they wake up in the
morning with the was it Frosted Flakes
and uh uh you know a stack full of
Pancakes then a good place to start
would be breakfast breakfast let's start
right there talk you can start with
anything that feels right to you um
breakfast is the first meal of the day
it makes sense to start with that um
take out junk food and and add in real
food um I think that's the first step
you don't have to have a perfect diet
from day one just pick one thing that
you're that you're passionate about that
you can that you feel you can make a
change with and make a change there and
build on that baby steps okay take one
thing out that's bad uh can we start
with start with white processed refined
sugar isn't it true also that now the
marketing it's really interesting I
heard this uh from my strength and
conditioning go he said that that Sugar
they've also they keep changing the name
they've given it so many different like
coverups names so you can't identify it
evaporated cane juice and give it give
us some of these days what high fructose
corn syrup uh corn syrup um well there
different kinds of sugar beet sugar so
these things if you see it uh this is
what you want to stay away from this is
a good start well um remember I said in
in the my my first uh appearance on the
dean show Eddie that um the simplest
teaching I have to offer about nutrition
and call this nutrition 101 is that um
if you want to be real healthy then eat
real food and real food is simple food
that does not come with a label with a
list of ingredients
so if you're reading Foods if you're if
you're buying foods that that uh come
with a label with a list of ingredients
yeah it is important to read those
ingredients and um sugar can be
disguised in a lot of different ways but
uh a higher level of nutritional
Consciousness and practice to actually
um realize is where you're you're not
reading you're not buying foods that
have labels with list lists of
ingredients generally we you know there
can be some exceptions to that but um
the best quality real foods that God and
nature have to offer us uh uh fresh
ideally pesticide free organic uh
vegetables and fruits and whole um raw
non salted non-roasted nuts and seeds
and legumes which are beans lentils and
peas and uh whole organic grain products
and then Meats and and Fish seafood this
is