in the Quran though we do find in one
place a purely logical
argument that goes beyond the concept of
design it goes into creation itself we
find it in Surah verses 35 and
36 were they created from nothing or did
they create themselves or did they
create the heavens and the Earth indeed
they are
uncertain Allah gives them two
propositions he leaves the third as so
obvious he doesn't mention
it did they were they created from
nothing or the Arabic could be by
nothing were they created from nothing
Common Sense tells you nothing cannot
produce
something
right you cannot get something from
nothing no thing cannot produce
something right so that's
out
illogical or did they create
themselves are we
self-created did we create
ourselves Common Sense again tells us
that
we couldn't have created
ourselves something cannot be
self-created
meaning it had to be out of existence
because to be created you had to not
exist and then
exist right so if you didn't exist how
could you make yourself
exist this is completely
illogical make sense if you didn't exist
because to be created meaning you had to
not exist if you didn't exist then how
could you make yourself exist because
you're not
existing so common sense tells
us we can't be
self-created so what else is
left something had to create
us something someone had to have created
us that is the only thing left
and not only that cuzz some people want
to ask but then who created that one
no the one who created us had to be
himself uncreated not
self-created but
uncreated had to be because if he is
himself
created then the one who created him is
the real Creator and if he was himself
created then the one who created him is
the actual Creator and some of them say
well yeah that that's how it is just go
back infinitely created by another one
created by another one back into
Infinity we say that actually that line
of argument Plato shut it down already
and he argued that if it were the case
that creators go back to
Infinity it would mean that it will take
an infinite amount of time to get here
to this point in time and that's the
same as saying we would never get
here
once you say that the creators go back
to Infinity it means it will take an
infinite amount of time from the first
of the creators back in Infinity to get
here it will take an infinite amount of
time therefore that's the same as saying
we will never get
here right so this is this is way Pluto
sorry uh Plato shut down that argument
no that line of infinite creators is
illogical the only thing that is left is
a creator
without being himself created so we
don't ask the question who created God
no he is himself uncreated if he is a
part of the creation system then they
are he like everything else is in need
of a Creator
so there had to be a Creator who was
himself uncreated design proves itma of
the humankind prove it so what do we
have on the side of the
uh atheists what do they have on their
side what can they argue from to say
logically why there couldn't be a god
well they come back they say
okay your God is an all powerful God
right he's all
powerful is he a good God or not yes
he's a good God God is good so where did
Evil come
from this is their line of argument they
say that the existence of evil is proof
that there is no
God the existence of evil is proof that
there is no God because if God is all
powerful and he is all
good and he created
evil then you've got a evil
God if he didn't create evil then he's
not all
powerful so there couldn't be a
God that's their
argument well our response to that is
that yes God created evil is a part of
his
creation that's what Allah said he is
the creator of all things though he
doesn't directly attribute evil to
himself he says
instead
say I seek refuge in The Lord of the
Dawn from the evil of what he has
created he didn't
say he could have
said from the evil he created but he
said the evil of what he created so
Allah
deliberately uses this terminology and
you find the prophet wasallam using the
same terminology you know that evil is
not directly attributed to God meaning
that the evil comes out of his creation
but his intent is not
evil that whatever he has permitted
whatever he has created even though we
may see in it evil an element of evil it
is not for that evil that it was created
but for the good which would come from
that evil because everything that exists
everything that God has permitted has a
good element to it whether it is obvious
to us or whether it is not there it is
there because God is
good so we explained to them that the
obvious good from Evil we can
see in certain
cases in our own lives personal lives
how many times things happen you say oh
man how why did that happen why did that
you know that's really horrible then the
next day something else happens and you
see based on that oh that's great I
didn't realize you know that thing had
good in it for me really and they said
you know every cloud has a silver lining
one of the expressions in the west to
explain
that there many times we experience that
in our lives similarly we can give them
an example in terms of
children when you take your child to the
doctor for the first
time and you tell them this is a nice
doctor you know he likes you he's
smiling and the kid is smiling and
everything then the doctor sticks the
needle in the kid's arm ah kid screams
right you told him it was
good but now in the mind of that child
what has
happened that man is evil okay he is an
evil man he's not a good man so every
time you take the child you tell the
child we got to go to the doctor oh I
don't want to go to the doctor right and
you drag them in there screaming and
crying you
know now
you
know that what the doctor is doing is
for
good right you know it because normally
yes the act of sticking a needle into
somebody's arm this is something evil
it's painful there's evil in it somebody
comes to you and says listen I have this
needle I like to jab it in your arm do
you
mind nobody's going to say Alan was
Allen you know unless you're sadist you
know masochist you like pain or whatever
I mean the average person is going to
say no that's evil who would want that
for themselves so the child is reacting
as a on a
normal uh person would act to pain harm
that has come to them the point is here
you know that it is for
good you know it is for good but no
matter how much you tell that
child will the child ever accept that it
is for
good