you press this all the Palestinians are
gone don't have balls of steel like you
they so I would if you gave me a button
to just erase Gaza every single living
being in Gaza would no longer be living
tomorrow I would press it in a second no
even if it's not like right now yeah
yeah I would press it right now mhm
Tories I would press it right now mhm no
choice they are monstrum they are human
monstrum asalam alum here in Saro the
capital of Bosnia my next guest shik
sanin Musa has the author of over 20
different books on the topic that we're
going to be discussing drawing a
parallel what's happening currently in
ruza and what happened here in Bosnia
the Jerusalem of Europe where Jews
Christians and Muslims have been living
here in a relative pieace we're going to
be talking about the history why the war
actually happened who are the aggressors
why they attack and what he feels the
future of this country holds how Muslims
and Christians should be working
together and much much more here in the
D show stay tuned most Israelis that's
the choice yeah yeah mm no even if it's
not like right now yeah yeah I would
press it right now I would press it
right now I would press it right now
give me that button and press it right
now there you go and I think most
Israelis would yeah most Jewish they
wouldn't post they wouldn't talk about
it like I am they wouldn't post they
wouldn't say I pressed it yeah but they
would they don't have balls of Steel
like you they but they would press it
right like if they were in a closet
alone they would they wouldn't even
hesitate mhm someone came to them and a
dark said no one will know you press
this all the Palestinians are gone you'd
be like hey is there another
one with SH Musa Salam alikum
greetings and peace thank you for being
with us here on the dean show you just
got to see this video with two israelies
what are your
thoughts beginning my English is not so
well and I mix it with Bosnian
uh they are monstrum they are human
monstr uh this this narrative is a not a
human narrative
this is a monstrum narrative and animal
narrative but no
animal animal don't speak like that I
have no words to explain what I feel
about it tell me because here in Bosnia
many people don't know that you had
something would you say similar the same
that was happening how would you
contrast that with what the aggression
the genocide that was happening here in
Bosnia you were here throughout the
whole war is that correct yes during the
192 to
196 last century in the end of the last
century uh there was aggression here on
the state bosnan hero from serbs Serbia
one one side and and the Croatia other
side uh and we passed the similar what
the pass now Muslims Palestinians in the
Gaza and the West Coast
uh it was similar about uh 14,000 people
was killed Muslim Bosnian here
civilians and
uh 30,000 of so our soldiers was was
killed during the aggression on the Bosa
in the war in the war from 92 to
96 similar like the Gaza now in this
video they're saying that if there was a
button that they can push to eradicate
all those innocent men women and
children because they're putting
everybody in the same Bunch everybody
they can p push a button that's it they
would push it do you think that the
people at that time who were doing this
it was the similar situation here from
us you think they could push the button
from us Bosnian uh they was they want to
wanted to destroy us completely from
this area from this part of art from
bosnan heroina to completely as they say
uh uh clean this uh area from the
Muslims from the Islam from these
mosques and the m so that that's
a similar way that we saw now in the
that we see now in the in in Gaza in
Palestine so if they could push a button
to eradicate all Muslims they would have
done that yes absolutely just like I
mean this is unbelievable you have these
two who are just openly not
sh but it's a it's
it's possible it's possible yeah tell
me you went through it here
yeah during that four years here inia so
no food no water electricity pretty much
what's
happening the the different is the the
Gaza is a smaller smaller concentrated
area Bosnia is was was bigger area the
whole Bosnia was the
genoside the Massac the killing happened
in all bosia like like Gaz West Coast
it's a similar
and without food water electricity
you're saying
here in
1,61 child children child was was killed
how many
1,601 where in just in yeah just in s in
the m in the Gage in
B TLA Zen a lot of child was was was
killed we don't usually hear about and
about
400 womans here here in BOS
Muslim tell me um why why was it
happening many people who have not
studied this who don't know anything
about it they're wondering why why did
this happen just just because we are
Muslims just because you're Muslim
because we Muslims yeah that's the
number one reason just because of your
religion yeah after that the state of
bosina and uh Place baby we are bosnians
bnak but I have no suspicious that first
reason is that we are that we are Muslim
that's to Muslims from the
others uh that was the the first first
reason sh Jia
677 mosques was uh destroyed in in
during the war how many
617 dest yes how about churches how many
churches were destroyed no one no one as
we know no one church
was because we didn't do that our
religion teach us like that uhuh to
don't destroy the if you could do the
same thing does your religion teach you
that if you can press a button to
eradicate all the Christians no would
you do that never never opposite I will
be
uh uh protecting protecting there from
the from
the here is the big cathedral in the
church Orthodox Catholic
church if they were being attacked you
would sit there and defend them AB I
mean we see that we're hearing the
Jerusalem you call this the Jerusalem of
Europe yeah is Jerusalem of Europe so
you just pointed out that there is a
main cath uh Catholic Church here and
that was throughout the whole War it's
remained standing you have an orthodox
church that's that's a true that's a
true there is many Orthodox Church in
Saro and Catholic Church in Saro there
is uh one synagoga uh you protector
synagogue synagog here in synagog also
protect from in the war prot the Jewish
grave here in to famous Jewish grave and
we protected here during the
war where there is a majority of Muslims
there's tolerance democracy did you see
Jews fleeing here from pre persecution
coming here uh to Bosnia after World War
II I was told that there was many Jews
who were protected they were put in the
uh nikab and the and dressed like
Muslims to protect them from the Nazis
that that was the during the World War I
here yeah here and S the Muslims
protected the Jew the Muslims
protected that so just one case it was a
massive massive situation here in Bosnia
we we protect Jewish here dur during the
World War War II uh from the Nazis mhm
that's a famous yeah because
uh they got the commemoration awards
from the Jewish Community because they
were protecting Jew
here they
the people from here they got the uh
acknowledgement of that so you were here
during the whole time of the war that
was happening yes I was here and I was
uh I was
wounded ran you were wounded yes wounded
R in the head and uh my parents was
killed here in one one one
grenade uh they was uh in the situation
to uh make take water
they were going to get
water you would take that water and then
you would boil it then uh do what so you
guys can use that
people getting sick from that
water
yeah so we're going to get that water
yeah first first time they they they go
together together to take the
water so when they take the water the
grenade
fell your mother yeah and your father
mother yeah my mother was killed on the
on the place father a few minutes after
that may God Almighty Allah reunite you
with your parents gr
J so so how uh for somebody now who
experience we were surrounded here in
Saro
in 44 45 46 M Ms 46 months months yeah
the whole city was was surrounded is it
true I heard uh there a report saying
that they were actually the um serbs uh
chetniks as you call them uh who by the
way they're religion and we don't blame
Christianity but they were Christian by
religion is that
correct they were saying that they were
protecting Europe from Muslims
uh John Major pre Premier prime minister
of Britain in the
time that one third that they had to
eliminate one third that they had to
expel and one third that they
would a dirty job for Europe yeah
karajic now is that the butcher yeah
that's the butcher that's that was a
general right yeah he was a
political was was buter General kaj was
a
political face yeah this is interesting
so he said he's doing the Dirty Work For
the Rest of Europe for Europe in several
time he was he was said was sing that
who was the the I was told also that
it's on record that the butcher um both
of them who actually been charged with
war crimes have been convicted this this
correct in the hag that the butcher
general madich or madich I gu Mader was
was mil that was her her his uh that was
himad is General is yeah okay so the
general
rers I
see when they caugh him yes
I was told that what happened was that
when he got replaced that he looked at
this General who's been convicted the
war criminal he looked at his mandate
and he said this is a genocide he's
about to commit a genocide he's on
record stating this
this is
past future
yeah are similar in the
one they want to get rid of the Muslims
here I mean for the last thousand
so if I understood correctly uh hold on
so I can kind of translate if you can
help me out so you're saying for the
last Thousand Years they've been trying
to get rid of the Muslims from here yes
yes uh
Muslims Muhammad wasam Shar 600 years
but before
that believe that
our
ancestors or that they were on the
Sharia of Isa Jesus the go see Sharia
for those that don't know that's just
God's law so you believe that they were
following the true teachings of
Jesus no Orthodox no Catholic this is
stop right here this is so important for
people to to see the roots of the basian
people were Unitarian Christians who
only believed in one God didn't worship
Jesus but worshiped like Jesus did the
one God and they were at that time
trying to being pers and they were
attacked because of that because of that
and and tried to destroy it see who from
the from the Catholics from the Vatican
and ugar H M yeah this is important
because many Christians themselves they
struggle with Trinity the belief that
God was a man but now our
original root was the Christians who
they would identify with more and then
when Islam came the belief in pure
monotheism toed they accepted it is that
amazing and because of that they were
attacked they were attacked the truth
has always been from the Catholics vaan
first
this so if I understood correctly at
this time what what what was the dates
of this
again uh
1200 so he was torturing the followers
of monotheism of that time who were
following the way of Jesus peace be who
later became Muslims no manism we we
call
that I see what you're
say so he came
to basic Christianity was here in Bosnia
by the ARA ARA priest from Alexandria
in uh
32 try to let us break this down in
English it's very very important uh the
area
was he was uh chased out yeah from from
the from the first n Cil of Christianity
yes uh
324 years after
isaam and he came after that here in BOS
he came to BOS he came to
I'll translate that yes that was during
the the Roman Empire so in 325 he came
here in Bosnia and Bosnia first seems uh
in the historical Source in 3
325 after is BOS and
Gaza uh have a similar part of Destiny
yeah they they they've been trying to to
destroy them the Muslims from Bosnia and
Gaza to destroy them about C centuries
ago centuries
ago in his in his time in her her time
uh that was a big Massacre from the
Christians in the Gaza and the Muslims
Gaza that time it's about 1,000 ago
1,000 years ago I think this is
extremely important because it shows the
hypocrisy because as Muslims we would
not press a button to eradicate people
here in the Jerusalem of Europe we're
protecting because of the God's law
Sharia you have churches here under
Muslims um majority country synagogues
are protected Catholic churches Orthodox
Churches during the war they've been
protected and it's a shining example
when Muslims are the majority the true
tolerance that is established absolutely
opposite opposit that button we we will
protect them we will protect them and as
we protect them uh Church in during the
war no one church was was destroyed yeah
uh over over 600 Ms was destroyed yeah
by the
Christians 540 from the serbs and about
17 from the croats from the cathol
yeah what tell us the you're saying the
future what's waiting
for the same
thing you're saying it's not secure that
it cannot it can possibly repeat itself
what
happened our destiny we don't
born we don't born
in the peace we don't live in the peace
and we not dying in the peace s always
Tren by by the War
and what what's why is that because we
are we are Islam
you're most western point of
the you see your guys as protecting
Islam here in Europe yeah lot of T
tourists came here to to see
that your prot are protecting Muslims
here are protecting this the was build
this but we bosnians protect this from
the centes and you can see um that here
everybody's pretty much uh welcome you
see uh people living together in
relative peace tell me this um how would
it be if a Serb or tomorrow a catian you
see Islam transcends nationalism um you
have many serbs and croatians that I've
interviewed who've actually accepted
Islam can you com they're your brothers
they Brothers
ISL can you TR didn't didn't came to to
change Nations to change your
nationality yeah Islam came to to to uh
difference inhabit inhabitants of people
to better
he's your
brother he's your brother tomorrow yeah
absolutely yeah and and and Mar
zag the same things same thing Mar Z is
Muslim my brother C it there no problem
uh that's the uh the beauty of Islam
yeah the beauty and one of the most
beauties of Islam so you don't you don't
hate a Serb just cuz he's Serb do you or
you hate aan cuz he's creation do you
absolutely we don't hurt anyone said we
don't hate anyone yeah because they are
that's what what's what they are but
obviously you hate aggression if
somebody's going to come in we don't we
didn't hate uh anyone in the basic of
Our Lives of our faith
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uh let's translate that you sleeping
with your eyes open you're not being
naive in English it's it's not it's
not far
away disconnected disconnected it's very
uh mostly to happen what's happened now
in Gaza to happen again it can happen
again here
so let's conclude with this how can we
never um in Gaza in we here we wait we
are waiting for one for one main that's
Imam M how do you think uh waiting for
Imam Mahi yeah just with IM the the the
situation will be will be a change in
the in theis Muslim uh let's conclude
with this what do you think um we should
be awake to what do you see the future
here how can we prevent something like
that from happening again here in BOS
it's very hard it's very hard to talk
about that
because because we'll come back to the
same what you're saying the
hate the hate towards
Muslims if I understood correctly the
the Satanism that's being pushed
around oh that's a good point what
happened in the
France that message sent from the open
opening so don't you think that
Christians and Muslims we have a lot
more in common yeah we can agree to
disagree absolutely but we have so much
in common that we should be working
together against some of these satanic
forces if you could translate that so
Prophet Muhammad last final messenger
said that that will be together
Christians and Muslims be together in
the time that that that's coming and
that's what we look forward to against
against that uh Satanism against
Satanism and all the devilish thank you
so much uh shik Musa for being with us
here thank sharing some of your experien
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