you were about to go bom a m people got
scared and they're like man I need to
figure this Islam thing out this is whoa
these people are scary I mean Islam is
bad news I've read the Quran that's the
problem I give a $10,000 challenge go
ahead Alex Jones to find in this book
the Quran where it says that you have an
open path to go ahead and kill innocent
human beings what about sarb man you
like sarb I said I do like sarb she's
good to us man she takes care of us but
she's still Muslim she still got to go
and if I can I'll do it myself with a
nine to the back of the head that's hat
I was watching his reaction and he's
like whoa Joe Rogan was like whoa wow
that was his reaction amazing right when
he saw your story y I was like I'm going
to see The Punisher it was about
self-defense that's what it was talking
about it was talking about self-defense
and then later on it goes into who you
can have aggression against
greetings and peace I'm going to go
ahead and give the famous actor John
Bernthal from The Punisher Walking Dead
the honor of introducing my next guest
as he's talking to Joe Rogan Richard
McKinna Marine he Force Recon accusing
more and more Muslims in the community
and was driving him crazy um so he
devised a plan to go and blow up the
mosque now years later he's a devout
Muslim he's the president of that
Islamic Center Salam Alum Richard
McKinny how are you is a sergeant
Richard mckenny you just call me Mack
Mac just call me mac that was pretty
cool people just got to see this John
Bernthal and he's a famous actor he's
talking to Joe Rogan and he's talking a
little bit about your story I thought
it's better let him go ahead and break
it down so they got to hear your army uh
Marine we already did that story right
uh when you came and sat with us but how
didd you get connected with him uh it
was funny because we were in Hollywood
do uh campaigning for our Oscar
nomination and they told me about this
guy that we're going to do a podcast
wait wait wait where were you I was in
Hollywood you were in Hollywood and you
were getting nominated for uh Emmy a
ward we were campaigning for Campa yeah
this was still we campaigning for that F
the film yes Strang the gate what's it
called stranger at the gate if you guys
haven't se that got to check it out so
he got a hold of that film yes what
happened well so so they told me about
it I don't know who John Bernthal is
yeah right and then they said you know
from The Walking Dead and I was
like okay which one and they said the
Punisher I was like I'm going to see The
Punisher yeah I was I was so I was just
like just blown away and and he is such
a wonderful person just a good natured
seemed like a real nice guy yeah yeah
he's and he's not a he's not got a big
head because he's in Hollywood or an
actor no he's really down to earthh so
did you ever expect now now there's your
story he's hearing incredible story and
then you got him sitting with Joe Rogan
now
so Joe Rogan indirectly is kind of uh
learning about Islam through you and
your story what do you think about that
I I I was amazed I mean you know these
people that that hear my story
and because you know being an American I
can't help sometimes but you know people
are have a have a uh status right
socioeconomic uh popularity whatever and
Joe Rogan he's like the Pinnacle of
podcast right and he was just blown away
I mean I was watching his reaction and
he's like whoa you know I was like wow
it was it was it was humbling but very
uh satisfying Joe Rogan was like whoa
wow that was his reaction amazing right
when he saw your story who y that was
pretty cool there's a friend of Joe
Rogan I'm going to show you this clip
and I want you to we'll have a
discussion around it uhhuh now you
probably know this guy and and he's uh
he's got a little hinge lately more than
uh so because he's uh talking about
Islam so we're going to go ahead and um
it's and I think I want to be optimistic
and I like your I like your your slogan
kind of your Mantra what is it control
out Delete control out Delete control
yourself alter your thinking and delete
all negativity this guy Joe Rogan's
friend now I think um he can benefit
from this let's watch the
okay freaking pro-islam look I'm not
saying exterminate all the Muslims okay
cuz there's you nice people kids all
that stuff my issue is that is an
expansionist cult that that that teaches
in its Quran to come in and lie to
people and then get a certain percentage
then take over and then kill anybody
that doesn't submit to it and they're
the biggest slavers in history enslaving
tens of millions of Europeans and
shipping them all over the world and and
there all this PR promotion of Islam I
mean Islam is bad news I've read the
Quran that's the problem look at them
all they're a bunch of screwed up people
on average and every country that's the
freest has a Christian ethos and the
West is the best everybody needs to
convert to us we are
superior period all right A lot can be
lot to unpackage here I thought this
goes well with who you used to be how
you used to think and would you say
listening to someone like him at your
time is helping you to become a person
who go bamas like you were actually
going to do uh at my time even me like
before before yeah before listen to
stuff like absolutely he would have been
my
cheerleader I mean uh
he spoke a lot of the things that I felt
at that time um and it's all centered
around ignorance I I I I actually feel
sorry for him because I think he's he's
missing out on not being a Muslim I I I
never project that on anybody but he's
missing out on on on life and and how
good it is because he can get along I I
I worry that he needs to settle down or
he's going to have a heart attack you
know I mean uh I care about him and I I
I I say that because I'm a Muslim I care
about him I I wish I had a chance to
talk to him you know uh not that I would
change his mind maybe but you know at
least I made an effort
and my effort my plant a seed what ises
what does your shirt say oh so this is a
an organization I'm an honorary board
member of we are many United against
hate it uh it's an organization that we
um that goes around and we speak at
schools and you know tell tell our
stories about coming out of hatred and
yeah yeah um this kind of hate this kind
of Alex Jan hate you heard of Alex
Jones that kind of hate all kind hey you
know so the the thing is I'm a Muslim
but I don't just speak about hatred
against Islam yeah I speak about hatred
period yeah because it it it it whether
it be race ethnicity uh sex gender I
mean it doesn't matter man uh he's got a
lot of um things to learn and I we've
been invited him we did some previous
programs to sit I don't know what you're
scared of sit and talk with them Muslim
yeah get a Muslim scholar get somebody
qualified and have a dialogue discussion
ask those tough tough questions like lot
of many of these things he's talking
about just clear lies you know he pushes
things out there like fake news uh
exposing a lot of the propaganda but
he's pushing false propaganda he's
pushing lies these are clear Lies We
don't it's not like he's inviting us and
saying hey look come let's talk address
this I I really want to know he's just
pedling fear-mongering
insulting and it seems like he don't
want to have a Alex what's up man I mean
I'm sure he's gotten some of these
videos we've done how do I know because
one of his one of Alex's Jones um
employees or co-hosts actually responded
to one of our videos a video I've done
with infow war here's what they had to
say greetings and peace how are you guys
doing you know Martin Luther King said
that the greatest danger for
Humanity is sincere ignorance and
conscientious stupidity sure they know
who we are and we are here we can go
ahead and facilitate a dialogue we we
can go ahead and come on the show if not
myself somebody else private meeting
doesn't have to be public let's have a
discussion if you really care about
Humanity Muslims are not going anywhere
Christians are not going anywhere we got
to learn to get along we can agree to
disagree on some things but don't lie
man you're just pedling hate and fear
and next thing you know you pump up
someone like Mack here Sergeant McKenna
uh Richard McKenna from in the past who
actually if uh Joe Rogan now knows and
John Blumenthal what's thatth Bernthal
and as we open the show he was
introducing you are actually because of
this hate you were about to go bom a
mque yep unbelievable and he's helping
to do that I mean to create people like
that sure uh you know it's like I said
uh earlier that you know he's he's
pedaling that Kool-Aid right like I said
I not only drank the Kool-Aid I I served
it
out um and and this is something we got
to get get away from and now that we're
you know totally in a in in political
oligarchy that that we have here in in
America it's um it's it's something that
that can only be done if we unite and
that's all of
us white black uh Jew Christian Muslim
Hindu what have you we have to unite for
what's
better you were actually looking for the
things Alex Jones was talking about
where the Quran teaches this is a clear
blatant lie and even Americans or
British or anybody I mean nobody likes a
liar when you're just lying you might
want to believe the lie but you're
believing a lie it's not the truth you
can easily find it if you're looking for
it if it's really there it's easy to uh
misquote and take things out of context
and whatnot but I don't think you're
going to even find in context here you
actually want part of your story is you
were given a Quran and then you were
told what to you were go read and you
were excited oh yeah that you were going
to go find some things that was going to
fuel and encourage you to go ahead and
fulfill this plan you were about to
absolutely absolutely yeah it's and it
it's like I tell Muslims today I said if
someone comes up to you and they want to
learn a little bit about Islam or or
what have you hand them a Quran tell
them to come back and find you when they
have questions right and if they read it
they will like this guy he he said he
read the Quran now I I would venture to
say
maybe no he didn't right but if he did
he he came across those things because
there are verses like that you have you
can't contextualize you have to
understand the before and the after and
the during you can't you can't just take
something you know all religions are
guilty of this all uh
not not all but some rabbis some
ministers and and imams have done this
like I told you about the story about
that would be suicide bomber that was
going to come and blow up this this gate
in
Afghanistan he couldn't read he was
going off what the Imam told him the
Quran said there you go man I challenge
right now here this is uh and I'll get
this to you for free my gift to you Alex
Jones or anybody else who like it you
can go ahead go to the de show.com you
get it for free on me to and I give him
a $10,000 challenge go ahead Alex Jones
to find in this book the
Quran where it says that you have an
open path to go ahead and kill innocent
human beings to force them to
convert and to go ahead and just do all
these despicable things lies and whatnot
cuz he's lying he didn't read the Quran
he has I can't believe he did because
you actually
read the Quran and you were reading it
to try to suit your desires to go ahead
and do what you were going to do hurt
innocent human beings but then it led
you to actually accept Islam you're here
absolutely absolutely uh and that's
happened with a lot of people actually
911 was the biggest population boost I
think to Islam in in in this Century you
well in the last century or well no it
was this Century that's right I get it
mixed up y but yeah be because people
got scared and they're like man I need
to figure this Islam thing out this is
whoa these people are scary and they
they do that they they research Islam
before they would have never even give
Islam a second thought right and then
they're like
whoa whoa this is this is for me this is
what I need in my life to help direct me
into a on a better path there you
go so he talks about
there's so much we can't cover it all
but I'm not saying kill them all there's
there's you know children there there's
women but what are you indirectly saying
like Okay kill some of them then you
know what I mean just like the ones I
don't like I don't like their accent
maybe I don't like that they're not U
white you can I mean you can just go off
and interpret it however you want but uh
the way he puts it out there imagine if
he said that about um Jewish people oh
Bo W what would happen could he get away
with that oh no no he would be shut down
uh Anti-Defamation League would come
after him and oh he would be done he
would he would be oh yeah it it would be
bad and and and and it's like so so even
though it it says that in in in the
Quran and and and but when we find out
what it actually means it was about
self-defense that's what it was talking
about it was talking about self-defense
and then later on it goes into who you
can have aggression against not the
elderly not women not children right you
cannot def face any kind of religious
structure that's not Islamic structure
religious structure Church synagogues it
says that it it gives a clear clear
perception of what you're supposed to do
and what you can't do so if you examine
the Quran then you're going to history
again you have and you can point on
examples like the
inquisitions The Crusade es Force
conversions Bloodshed up into the knees
when the Crusaders were taking over
forcing people to go so you can give
historical examples you can go ahead and
and quote verses from the Bible Samuel
Deuteronomy you know go uh the towns
destroy if you want to play that game
right right go go into the town destroy
everyone keep the little one keep the
young girls for yourselves doesn't even
say prees just the young girls right so
that's open up to interpretation and
then you can say hold on
uh Jesus who we love uh he's supposed to
be God in the Trinity he revealed this
now because he's God right so he's is he
the god of the Old Testament too is he
not yeah you can you can use verses from
the Bible where Jesus said uh of my
enemies who wish that they I don't rule
over them bring them before me and slay
them huh I have not uh come to bring
peace but a sword if you can play like
you know playing chop up verses and
whatnot uh the the other ones in the Old
Testament that's a little bit you got to
give you know smash the baby's heads you
know bless are those there's a ton we
can go there oh yeah but it's not going
to be productive we're not going to
bring cohesion and whatnot but it's like
you're throwing stones out of a glass
house Alex Jones because you're a
Christian so that's what blows my mind
right you know they did um experiments
and they've actually read certain verses
uh from the Quran and the Bible and then
they'd say which book is this from and
people think Quran but it's actually
from the Bible yeah talking about have
you seen that why don't you uh show that
Alex yeah that's yeah exactly and and
there's been Scholars not Islamic
scholars Scholars who have
researched uh all the holy books and the
Old Testament specifically has more
violence in it in killing and raping
than any other book completely Alex
Jones are you comprehending did you hear
that or is your mind and your ears are
closed this is a fact Alex Jones this is
the facts they've done these tests the
vi the Bible I'm not trying to
disrespect any Christian no absolutely
not I just Alex Jones right now has got
under some people's skins he's got to
control out Delite definitely definitely
it's more violent than the more violent
the Bible oh absolutely absolutely and I
again like you
said somebody asked me one time how hard
it was for me to convert from
Christianity to Islam and I looked at
him and I said I'll be honest with you
out of my respect for Christianity I was
not a Christian because a Christian does
not do the things I did does not think
the way I think or plan the way I
planned I'm married to a Christian a
very devout Christian and we get along
because we have the same ideas we have
the same we want Humanity to be better
we want the world to be a better place
to live even though this is a testing
ground we all know that this is a
testing ground for when we for for for
us to have that that wonderful afterlife
that wonderful time with Allah right and
and she
she really she's us she uses the word
Allah and she was wearing a t-shirt one
time one of my t-shirts you know wives
steal your t-shirts I don't just
something they do and it was uh it it
had a shahada on
it and she was questioned about it and
she's like there's one God that's what
she told him there's one God that's what
this shirt says
mhm okay you know so we we want the
betterment of humanity and that's why we
get along and that's how the the the
religions are similar and uh that's the
why don't you attack that Mr Jones the
main teaching of Islam they don't want
to so one of my guests said just
recently he said they don't want to have
a academic
heart-to- heart conversation they just
want to insult yeah why don't you
attack this is the main Message of Islam
this is the main message of Jesus of
Moses there's nothing worthy of worship
except one God the Creator in Aramaic
allaha and Arabic Allah sister languages
Jesus actually spoke Aramaic and he said
Allah yep I mean how much closer can you
get to Allah it's a proven fact so now
that's the main message that's the Creed
that's the better try to destroy that
come on it goes with your human nature
that's the they get they get to these
issues like in the Quran uh fight those
who fight you right you have uh verses
how you going to speak to a general
leading an army and now these people are
attacking you and what are you going to
do like uh send them uh some candy and
dessert exactly you you in the military
I I I can imagine how and you were in in
Desert Storm you were in Somalia you
were in some of the you know most War
torn places how were your how were the
generals talking to you the captains
lieutenants to pump you up to go out
there and were were they talking about
you know go give them a hug oh yeah no
it was it was like uh I I equated to
those uh those uh High School football
locker room talks that the coach gives
you before you hit the field right it it
was it was similar to that yeah with a
with a little profanity yeah
so you got the Muslims who are being
oppressed to the
severest their homes
taken
tortured I mean their lives just I mean
all the evil that you can equate were
done to them right just study the S the
history sure and now they're given a
chance to go ahead and to defend
themselves to fight back that's the
context but Prophet Muhammad is saying
do not there's no before the Geneva
conventions he's laying out do not
attack non-combatants women children do
not innocent human beings monks in their
places of worship Christian Jews whoever
you don't have that even the Bible you
don't have that I mean uh there is a man
who makes a case that actually helped he
was someone connected to the Geneva
Convention and he talks about how the
Geneva Convention actually from the
teachings of Islam that's how they got
the Geneva Convention if people don't
know what the Geneva that's like what
what is the Geneva Convention it it's it
it basically it's uh
um best way to put it it's it's more
like the the what we term as the laws of
land Warfare it it tells us what we can
and can't do it tells us how to treat
prisoners but what a lot of people don't
know is Geneva Convention actually
came from the actions of a Muslim that's
what I'm talking about man Abdul cutter
MH there's a bust of him actually
outside the building of the genu
convention because he was the one who
gave them the the basically the
foundation of this is how we're going to
treat people your besties it didn't come
from your besties right now you have
your
besties and people hopefully they can
understand Alex Jones he's smart can
figure it out who are now committing a
modern
day genocide right now yeah and America
First yeah right these people billions
of dollars are being spent our taxpayer
money and you actually have have these
people who now zionists who now have
their Zionist rabbis and they're
actually
justifying I was blown away that
actually Pierce Morgan he's talking with
Tucker man hands off to Tucker Carlson
man he's doing some you know he's
bringing up some points he was on Fox
News before but he's adjusting he's he's
like been a little bit as they say red
pilled but he's um his humanity is on I
don't know if you've seen this let's
take a look I've seen a couple of Morgan
actually justifying he's arguing with
Tucker about taking out innocent human
beings yeah that is UN if you're
intentionally killing civilians you
probably shouldn't beat your chest and
brag about it you know maybe you can
make maybe you make the case that we had
to do it or whatever but you should I
agree you should weep and that's evil
and you should say it's evil and I know
it's like really threatening to is it
evil Ben Shapiro to say that or whatever
is evil to kill civilians on purpose
yeah it is I think it is kids and
children uh well how is it not actually
in a war we can call it whatever you
want how is it right to kill women and
children I didn't say well because I
think there is a moral right behind you
if you are literally to kill women and
children if there's if there's a world
war that threatens the entire it
threatens the entire world yes some
people killed your kids like you're
8-year-old like morally justifiable well
because actually you have to well by
your criteria that's disgusting okay
it's nothing's so no war is morally
Justified I mean I think it's pretty
hard to justify I mean yeah
you know a pure defensive action sure
but all I'm saying look it's all ugly
it's all hard to stomach I've actually
seen some of it up close super ugly you
say you the fact you with it being
morally Justified to intentionally kill
non-combatants women and
children I think we can say that's wrong
in fact I thought that was the thing we
were fighting against unbelievable mhm
he sold his self out right there he
showed his mask came off here's Morgan
unbelievable did you saw that yeah yeah
discussion they had I think it was like
in a garden or something you talking
yeah so but you don't have that in Islam
that's interesting you do not have that
inside they're doing it right now right
indiscriminate you got doctors who are
coming out and they're examining
American doctors even Jewish there's a
Jewish doctor who's coming out you got
so many Jew also it's a small percentage
alhamdulillah they're coming out
speaking out their humanity is on and
they're talking about I don't if you see
the video that we're
seeing wounds sniper wounds to Children
babies not one two they're seeing that
hope we can find a clip and play it yeah
you know about that yeah yeah yeah yeah
and it was funny I was at the uh uh
Palestinian March in Washington DC last
year uh 500 plus thousand people we got
no news coverage out of that but it was
it was it would made me feel so good
because there was actually htic Jews
that was there marching with us
yeah I was like man this is Humanity
because one thing we got got to think
about this America first okay especially
to towards the
Christians America is not a part of the
end times think about that America is
not a part of the end times right it's
not mentioned right so we need to worry
more about humanity and not this
nationalism right nationalism gets you
nowhere right it gets people killed is
what it
does this is um unbelievable I mean I
have um Israeli friends Jewish friends
like Miko PID I consider him a friend
he's on the front line he's an Israeli
his father grandfather were part of
making putting together Israel writing
the constitution of Israel he's an
Israeli he's speaking out against this
Injustice you have RBI Weiss I don't
know if you ever met him RBI white he's
an orthodox Jew he's speaking out so
this is not a Jewish Muslim thing like
they try to paint out there right it's
not yeah Muslims have historically
protected Jews when the Christian
Crusaders people often hear me repeat
this but you might have Alex Jones now
tuning in others who don't know this
history and they try to it's about
Muslims hating Jew why did Muslims then
take them in repopulate when Christians
forced them out the the second Caleb
came in and said where are the Jews
that's right and he's like bring them
back bring them back and Christian
Crusaders they were like no we don't
want them here like the the the the main
bishop or priest at the main Christian
at the who's running the Jerusalem
um I forgot his name but he said they
were trying to negotiate no we don't
want him back here we we we drove him
out but then om he brought in like 70 80
families yeah yeah he he grabbed the the
the the head of the city at that he just
he just uh uh uh freed and he grabbed a
hold of him in an aggressive manner like
he was going to beat him up and said
where's the Jewish people they have more
right to be here than any of us
wow and throughout history World War II
you know yeah Muslims along with some
Christians absolutely but we helped hide
the
Jews we took them
in and we were missing this piece
somewhere along the
line We we forgot something and and in a
lot of ways I think it's it's our human
ity we forgot our Humanity we forgot to
live our religion our our faith the way
it's supposed to be fou we forgot that
yeah that was the uh the patriarch
sophronius sophronius at the time when
and Alex Jones needs to study this kind
of history and you have and Jews you
have Orthodox Jews when I had them on
the program who testified to this that
Muslims welcomed us they protected us
from the P persecution actually sorry it
was it was um the Christians who are
persecuting them and it seems like now
they're trying to project on the Muslims
as if Muslims were doing it right so
back to this U these lies here I I'd
like for you to hear this is like this
is a a verse here that kind of Trumps
all the verses that they can go ahead
and take out of context that are
actually meant for combat situations
it's not just indiscriminately go and
because again as we just said you can go
and take that from from the Bible and
play that game but look right here um
vers 60:8 I'll have uh our brother here
read eight if you can read that please
okay uh should have warmer
glasses God does not forbid you from
dealing kindly and fairly with those who
have neither fought you nor driven you
out of your homes surely God loves those
who are fair allahar look at
that did you come across uh is this one
of the verses or similar that you when
you actually took time to read thean
right right it it it it um it did it
that was one of the light bulb moments
MH where you know I went back I I cuz
they said come back you know and I did I
was there I was there more than most of
the Muslims were I tell I tell people I
said it wasn't Ramadan so I was there
more than most of Muslims were but uh
you know and I just kept asking these
questions because you know you can't
just read it that's not a James patter a
novel you can't just read it and say wow
man that's a good story no you have to
study it and and and we could read it
you know every month we could read the
whole Quran every month of our lives and
we still would not be able to get from
it what was meant without doing further
research you can't just read the Quran
you have to interact with what it says
and and that's why when I was when I
first picked it up and I was reading I I
I didn't just go with all the yeah
Islam's the greatest thing I did I
didn't go with that I I looked at the
pros and the cons I looked at the the
the the the people who hated Islam and
what what they were saying
and and because those were the people I
I originally followed but then I'm I'm
looking at what they're saying contrary
to what these pro-islamic people are
saying about what the Ron says and I'm
like these guys no they're they're not
no and I I started to get mad because
I'm like this is when I started figuring
out I was wrong and so I got mad about
it right and I'm like ah but those guys
they read it okay or they read a few
pages and they read the ugly stuff that
they that they call right that they call
the Ugly stuff and and but without
understanding mhm you know again
bringing up the Bible there there
there's a a section of the Bible to
where one of one of the so-called uh
followers of God says that he was given
a a dream um that was told by God to
kill a whole city every living thing do
not even take any any as you know it's
called booty and back then that's how a
lot of army or Soldiers made their money
is what when they invaded something they
took they took stuff back well
don't even take anything animals
children women you know all the men
elderly young doesn't matter destroy
every living thing that's the Bible
That's the Bible yeah you don't you
won't find anything like that there's
nothing like that in the Quran I'm like
well okay you still want to debate this
have you looked into this verse Alex
have you looked into these things
obviously not does it yeah that there's
actually another um there's so many of
these stories you're one of the Unique
Individuals who now is perfect for some
for ex Alex Jones and others some of
these people who have that type of hate
in their heart and you can testify what
was that doing to your health to your
life having that type of
hate well um it was slowly killing me um
I was uh addicted to alcohol you know I
there was a few years there where I
don't think I had had a sober
day um and it was sad you know there was
a point in my life when I was like the
life of the
party people would actually decide
whether they were going to a party if I
was going to be there or not because
they knew if I was there it was going to
be a great time to where at towards the
end I just sat and
cried CU I hurt so much and I I I try to
show that that hurt as hatred because of
course you know the machis mo thing
right you got to be tough guy gotta be
tough guy well in all
actuality I haven't been tough since
06
and I I
just I knew it was time for a change I
knew things were happening and I in a
lot of ways I tried to offend them off I
tried to push him away I didn't wanted
to change because I saw this hatred as
what was actually keeping me alive wow
yeah I you know equated it to like
another organ in my body you don't want
to lose an organ right I mean those are
important and that's the way I saw it
and and it it just kept me going and
kept me going I couldn't even you know
like my wife says in the film you know
she would avert where we went down in
aisles like at Walmart or something just
because if there was a musima or
something because I'd say something
nasty to her oh yeah you were that I was
that bad I don't even know this person
I'm gonna go buy and I'm gonna say all
kinds of nasty things to him wow yeah
yeah there's I I I'll
explain my hatred and you can edit this
out it's fine um but because I only tell
this to certain audiences um because it
is kind of graphic but my
hatred when I explain hatred to people
because a lot of people it's just the
it's just a word we throw around
nowadays and nobody even really knows
what it means anymore but my hatred was
deep in Bosnia we had an interpreter her
name was
sarab wonderful young lady
20-some um and uh she took care of
us she took care of us uh we went into a
Serbian village within Bosnia I was set
up to talk to the police chief so we
went into his
office and here's sarup now they're
talking back and forth I really don't
understand the language that well a
little bit here and there not much and
and I noticed she was looking very
uncomfortable and I said Sarah what's he
saying to you and he go you know she
said no no don't don't worry about it
don't worry about it I said Is it bad
she
goes I stood up with my rifle pointed it
straight across his desk at him and said
if you and I said or Sarah tell him
exactly what I'm
saying I won't tell you tell you exactly
what I'm saying what I said but
basically it was if you don't have
anything nice to say shut up shut your
mouth and he just put his hands up and
said all right and we went on about our
conversation now that's because I I I I
cared about her I liked her we I I I
would do uh uh PR uh interviews for
radio in Bosnia you know of course I
have an interpreter well we would hold
hands I got a lot of teasing for this
but we would hold hands because when she
wanted me to quit talking so she could
interpret she squeezed my hand right and
then she squeezed it again when it was
okay for me to talk that was our little
thing
right um
so my friends other friends who was
concerned because I had so much hatred
for for Muslims came to me and they says
what about sarb man you like sarb I said
I do like sarb she's good to us man she
takes care of us but she's still Muslim
she still got to go
wow and if I can I'll do it myself with
a nine to the back of the
head that's hatred that is hatred at the
core and that's the way I
felt that because of my belief on how
evil these people
were I didn't want her to carry on the
bloodline I had to stop
it I
wow
that's how dark my heart was MH I mean
this can um really um be a great example
of that transformation you talk about Al
being alcoholic and um pretty much that
hate eating away at you I mean we know
we're talking about our our friend here
Alex Jones I don't know if he quit
alcohol but he's alcoh also alcoholic
you see his life's upside down you know
just shambles it doesn't it's not like
the life of the way of life he's living
like it's
producing that contentment we all have
test and trials we're going through but
we were just talking about some of your
test and and you're just like than
you're just saying thank God it's this
is your you can see your condition is
one of contentment and you have that
kind of that uh calmness that peace
right that Islam gives you he needs some
Islam he needs yeah definitely
definitely because there is you know is
means peace and and and and submission
and when you have that you know cuz a
lot of time especially Americas
especially Americans they have this this
fear of submitting to anything right
they don't even know they talk about
slavery Americans are the biggest slaves
there are and they don't even see it
because they it it's a different kind of
slavery it's taking on a whole new look
and it you know as I refer to it as wage
slavery mhm that's what we are we've
become that and it's all out of our
thirst for greed to have more to have
better than your neighbor that's the
biggest problem and it says it also you
know one of the things that Islam
teaches in the Quran is that a True
Believer is one who wants for his
neighbor exactly what he wants for
himself you think about that you want to
be a millionaire well you want your
neighbor to be a millionaire too regard
artist of who they are what color their
skin is what religion they they they
they they follow it doesn't
matter very few people and I'm I'm going
to I'm going to call Muslims out on this
too very few people in
general don't feel that way mhm we got
to be better I got to be better right I
got to have the newest car I got to have
the newest phone right you know I mean
people stand out line for the you know
outside the night before to get the new
iPhone what's that about slavery yeah
yeah it is and and this oligarchy that
we live in now has has has it's all come
to a head because now these people are
going to
perpetuate the people in charge the
people power are going to perpetuate
even more of that you know my wife might
lose her job because the Department of
Education is is on The Chopping Block we
don't know if it's going to be here
tomorrow she don't know if she's going
to have a job right right um and you
know people are scared people are scared
and that's when we got to to grab that
fear grab that fear by the neck and re
it in and turn it into
Power turn it into courage because fear
is false anyway it just is you know hey
I'm afraid of mice okay I know a mouse
isn't going to hurt me but I'm scared to
death of
them it's having that fear and
understanding it bringing it in and
making you more power like I
said you have no right to think that
you're not good enough you have no right
to think that you don't have the power
because the person who or God Almighty
Allah made you the same one who created
the Sun the moon the Earth the mountains
he made
you wow and Alex Jones too and Alex
Jones absolutely he made everybody yeah
so to for you to think you're not worthy
come on
man so is it a slave to the likes to the
Views to the because like I spoke
earlier for people like Alex Jones I
mean it's pretty and again we're
extending um a line out there hopefully
of communication that we can facilitate
some dialogue we can help to um bring on
some people and let's have a discussion
to talk to really if you're somebody who
is in a Quest For Truth he seems like he
he put some stuff out there that now
goes against some of the mainstream
narratives and over the years people he
developed a fan base that he goes
against some of the Norms exposing some
truths people who know some sure some
things that were actually conspiracies
that happened and have you questioning
but here he's blatantly lying about
Islam blatantly blatantly yeah uh one
thing uh pro-islam I like to when people
ever mention Islam so if you say I'm
those who are pro-islam and then you
just Define the words you mentioned two
words peace and submission so if you say
and you'd ask someone who believes in
God say are you Pro acquiring Peace by
submitting your will to the creator of
the heavens and earth they'll say yes
well that's Islam right there that's
Islam that's Islam you're a Muslim
that's it and then watch their head spin
yeah that's what it is in one word
encapsulates that you just now are kind
of like uncomfortable with the Arabic
but hold on I mean what what about
Hebrew Hebrew and Moses ancient Hebrew
and what about Aramaic with Jesus now
and he was also born in Palestine so
he's Palestinian yeah exactly and he was
a refugee
yeah uh yeah yeah so so it's like you
know when when I do social media I I
don't use the word Allah MH I I use
Creator or God because it it with some
people the people I really want to reach
it gives them that that negative
connotation right because they they're
already turned off off by that but if I
was to say Yahweh I'd be good yeah
nobody say anything about that right it
because it it's just not accepted for
some reason in general Society the word
Allah is not accepted when it's the same
word you say every day when you say God
yeah but but if you you know the comment
explanation if you say God I mean we
know what that means god almighty the
Creator but why we now after we break it
down um
we uh the the major um difference is God
like what are you referring to now Gods
you can put s after it flip it around be
dog you can goddess yeah Godfather godm
mother but now when you go deeper Yahweh
if you say Yahweh for instance we don't
have a problem with if you're referring
to the almighty creator of the heavens
and earth the one God yeah that's no
problem Allah says call him by 99 of his
most beautiful names and more he has the
just the merciful the compassionate this
is the one God the Creator if we're
talking about that we're in well and I
know there's a passage in the Bible I
don't know where but I I remember it um
that God and I don't know who asked him
this but it was somebody that was that
was talking with God and had asked him
what his name was yeah he says I am mhm
that's it in the story I I am that's it
now through time we ended up with the
word God yeah for whatever reason and
you know Arabic since it's you know a
language of native speaking people Allah
MH I don't understand what the concept
is you
know that people have when they can't
figure out it's the same thing I just
don't get that yeah you know like like
in French we call a pencil a
crayon right it's not a crayon mhm but
people don't get mad about that you
know it's it's this thing you have to
understand that everybody has their own
language and that's what they refer to
Christians in arab-speaking
Nations have a law printed in their
Bible it's in the Bible yeah it's in the
Bible for Arab speaking people is there
Allah is there because that's their word
yeah um it it's just it's it's amazing
how people shut them off and and want to
it's like they want to stay in a state
of ignorance yeah I don't get it there's
deep ignorance yeah deep that's why
these conversations are so important
that's why I don't I don't I don't
understand when you have people like the
U the Charlie Kirks and and you have
other many of these conservatives
they'll go and have discussions with uh
on the college campuses with liberals
and they'll be asked why are you here
well I'm trying to better understand you
why don't you better understand us come
and talk with us Alex Jones and the
others come sit and talk with the Muslim
let's have a discussion and let's get to
the bottom of some things and agree to
disagree on some things but let's see in
context we're like I I said we're open
book come discuss and see make your
judgments from there but uh that's the
ironic thing I mean bring on everybody
and their mother but you won't see a a
Muslim qualified scholar come on the
Alex Jones Show him inviting and we'll
help to facilitate that no and I I love
to speak to people like that and they
get so frustrated because number one I
don't defend Islam mhm I don't don't
need to be defended right I don't defend
it if you want to have a discussion we
can talk I'll talk all day about Islam
I'm fine yeah but I'm not going to argue
with you right and
uh people are like well doesn't that
bother you man when people like get in
your face and stuff I said no I said
listen I tell people this as a PSA
whenever it goes to a Q&A yes I've been
shot at I've been stabbed I've been
blown up I've been married five times
and now I'm vaccinated you can't hurt me
period I'm like
Teflon say what you got to say you know
and and and I mean that I do deeply mean
that I'm not going to defend my religion
because it don't need
defended you know I I don't like what
some people have to say that doesn't
mean anything really just I don't like
it okay well so be it aldah I go on I go
on my life you know and go on doing what
I'm doing yeah there's an example of a
famous Dutch politician his name is
joran van I interviewed him an amazing
individual he was part of the political
party of Gert wielders this guy is like
trying he's now I think he's um has a
key position in uh is it the
Netherlands and he's actually someone
who's trying to get rid of the
Quran he's trying to he's been doing
this for years so one of his key members
actually went and he opened up the Quran
the Bible and he was trying to go ahead
and find like you were doing he was
trying to okay justify some of this hate
so it's blind hate it usually it's what
the islamophobic industry the hate
industry the hate provocators they take
select verses they chop them up they
paint a arrogant they fear paint a
narrative they fear monger and now you
get that stuff but then most people
don't open it for up from themselves
they don't sit with the qualified person
they don't sit and talk ask questions so
what he did Amazing Story that Alex
Jones should should look him up and he
goes and he starts to compare and he
starts to see you know the verses in the
Bible in the Quran he comes to the
conclusions just like that study did
that wow actually the Bible is actually
more violent in the Quran you have Moses
commanding now uh when they went to
worship the the calav 3,000 in one shot
when they came back were annihilated and
you can just imagine uh what that word
means at the end to the in one shot
right and then the other things that um
Moses did who we love he's he's one you
cannot insult him or Jesus or anything
in Islam but what the Bible is saying
claiming that he did and we're over here
attacking Pro muham peace and blessing
be upon it you have people you know the
age of Mary when she was um married to
Joseph according to the Catholic
encyclopedia Rebecca also that many
rabbis are talking about and justifi we
we don't accept that with the Rebecca
this stuff but then they want to go and
attack Prophet Muhammad so I'm just
making this example that if people go
ahead and just open the book but and
read their own book instead of throwing
stones out of a glass house have those
discussions and not being be so
hypocritical because nowadays what's
taken over Christianity is liberalism uh
so it's not really Christianity that
Alex Jones and others who are attacking
Islam they're following sure they have
this is more of a liberal interpretation
because there's a lot of commonalities
between the two right because originally
came from the same originally the same
source as the Creator but over time the
books got changed the Bible got changed
that you got Bible scholar telling us
this we don't have the original
manuscripts we don't have the the
documents that the authors actually
wrote so when Mark wrote a gospel we
don't have that thing he wrote we have
copies of it that were made later and we
actually don't have copies we've got
copies of copies of copies that are many
centuries later most of the time and so
I realized that as an Evangelical but uh
the more I studied it these manuscripts
started bothering me a little bit
because uh I had believed that the Bible
was God's words it's not just that it
was like his communication broadly it
was his very words but then as more I
thought about it I realized you know
there are places where we don't know
what the words are there entire passages
in the Bible that I was familiar with
that probably weren't originally there
they're in some manuscripts but not in
other manuscripts and so somebody's
either added them or somebody's taken
them away and how do we know and so for
me that started kind of an avalanche of
doubt and what happens God Almighty at
the end to clear everything up he sends
the final Revelation the Quran that's
here and you are a testament to the
power of this Quran Alex Jones really
picked up don't lie you picked up you
read the Quran you wouldn't be talking
the way you did please uh read the Quran
connect with Muslims like us uh what
else would you say to Alex Jones before
we conclude and others out there who are
might be PL plot plotting and planning
something evil like you were but you
connected with Muslims you read the book
and you actually accepted submission to
the Creator not the creation Islam and
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always always how can people not
encourage U different uh Church groups
and others who want to connect and hear
your story and they want to invite you
to the to talk at University or another
play how do people get a hold of you so
I I I don't I'm I'm not big on the on
the on the uh social scale I just uh I
my email uh is R MC k i n NE
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more than happy to come talk with you or
maybe just sit and have a phone
conversation I'm okay with that too
thank you very much nice seeing you
again may God Almighty Allah bless you
you too brother you too and thank you
Alex let's get this message to the Alex
Joneses and Alex Jones himself man
what's up Alex we got this um message
sent to you hopefully this opens your
mind and for those others who would like
to get the book and read it for
themselves and not be brainwashed and
fear mongered into cancer and stuff
that's going to destroy your health man
and your mind and your body and at the
end of the day what are you going to die
you you're going to end up in a place a
hateful Place misery do what the brother
did he opened up the Quran he read it
look look at them now huh positivity is
great feeling good he's living purpose
so go to the Deans show.com we'll get
you a free copy of the Quran for you
Alex Jones we can meet Alex Jones
connect with me your people can connect
with mine let's make it happen and I'll
bring you one and give it to you
personally myself the olive B Branch as
they say has been extended let's see
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we are your people responded some of our
videos so let's go ahead we're extending
let's see what you do with that and
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