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we know that
islamophobia is rampant now why we're
going to be discussing that and there's
that all up in your face islamophobia
then there's that subtle islamophobia
that's what we're going to be talking
about today giving some examples here on
the dean show and then after the rain
comes the sunshine we're going to give
some good news so you're not all gloomy
because a lot of times you hear the sad
news you're like why are they talking
bad about us when we're just peac loving
people trying to have a peaceful
relationship with our neighbors and
we're so misunderstood so if my next
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the peace be with you assalam
alayum brother how are youim H yes I'm
good alhamdulillah thank you for having
me on thank you for being on the dean
show it's my pleasure it is my pleasure
sir now uh I had opened up the show and
I had talked about
the you know you're on the ground you
see like this growing islamophobia is
this uh something that you're also
experiencing you're being a part of isna
you guys are out there uh doing a lot of
community work and um innerfaith you
know uh different dialogues with
different people of other religions how
is it on the ground what you're seeing
now absolutely you know it's is on the
front lines of working with the
community working on Interfaith and so
on and recent polls have shown uh and
our experience has shown
that public perception of Islam is at an
all-time low right now unfortunately
that's a fact that's a fact right um it
was okay for a while but now it's
getting worse again and we are up
against such a machine that is
constantly vilifying Muslims and lying
about Islam and they have a vested
interest in making us out to be the bad
guy you know we're doing what we can
we're doing what we can but we need to
double our efforts now we talked about
this all up in your face islamophobia
Bill Mah saying that you know the 1.6
billion Muslims are like the mafia
comparing Muslims to you know like um
the Nazis I mean some crazy just up your
face stuff you know what I mean um but
what about this now there's a recent
article with Larry King yeah talking
about the more subtle approach can you
talk to talk to us about this sure
that's a very important distinction so
you've got the in yourface islamophobia
like you said which is a problem
obviously but but it's a less dangerous
problem because we all recognize it as
islamophobia we all recognize it as a
form of racism somebody obviously just
doesn't like you somebody has
misconceptions about you but we can
recognize it for what it is the
more devious problem in my opinion is
this more subtle form of islamophobia
where there's a very subtle form of
racism very subtle form of stereotype
that isn't immediately apparent the
problem is the person doing it may not
be even aware of what they're saying so
for example there was a recent um
incident with Larry King where a
gentleman wanted to take his picture
with with with Mr King turns out that
this fellow was from Saudi Arabia who
wanted to take the um the picture and so
lar King said something along the lines
of oh I'm a Jew is is it okay for a
Saudi to take a picture with with a Jew
and he said of course yes you have many
followers in Saudi Arabia and so on so
he took the picture with with Mr King
and he smiled and so on that afterwards
Larry King says to this Muslim from
Saudi Arabia he says now go fight
Isis on the surface it might seem okay
he was making a joke about Muslims and
Jews then fighting Isis and so on but
underneath it right is this very subtle
insinuation that Muslims don't like Jews
right which is which is which is not
true we see them as people of the book
we have some issues with with Israeli
policy towards Palestinians but we have
nothing against Jews as as a religion
and then something along the Lin of now
go fight
Isis what what do American Muslims have
to do with Isis what does Saudi Arabia
have to do with Isis right so that would
for example that would that would be
like me uh saying to an American
Christian go fight andr brevic in Europe
you remember the uh uh the shooter in
Europe I believe it was U he killed some
Norway right it was at a camp and he
killed about 70 Muslims many of them
were children this fellow was a devout
Christian and that would be like me
saying to a Christian here now go fight
Andres brevik or or me telling a
Christian here now go fight the skin
heads in Europe right what do they have
to do with the radicals in Europe why am
I holding American Christians
accountable for the radicals in Europe
similarly why is Larry King holding a
Saudi or an American liable for the
crazies in the Middle East and
throughout the world right so it's this
it's this double standard but on the
surface that's how it may come off right
he's just concerned about what's going
on in the Middle East and he's telling
us to go fight Isis I want to take you
to this clip right now so you can see it
and then get your comments on it sure at
the cooko Islamic
Center it's time that we put all of
these pieces of crap on notice that
we're not taking
their that's that's the first drawing on
our uh little uh uh artist contest
at the Muslim Center we're
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here good clo so they don't have to
squint to see that okay so you got to
see this clip it's
it's very sad seeing this stuff so we're
going to we're going to go to break and
then we're going to get your comments on
this is this uh this one which would
this fit in this is the very obvious
this is the very overt islamophobia okay
so we'll be right back more to discuss
this clip here on the dean show don't go
anywhere people wonder what is the
status of Jesus Beast upon him in Islam
do Muslims respect him do they honor him
is he a prophet or is he God according
to Islam
first all Muslims consider Jesus Beast
be upon Him is a
Muslim do you know that the word Muslim
mean the one who submit to God's will to
Muslims the word Muslim is an honorary
title to those who completely surrender
themselves to God's
will for instance in the Quran Surah
3713 Allah
says translation when Abraham and
Ishmael completely surrendered
themselves and they became Muslim and
they followed the orders of God on the
sacrifice so therefore it was an
honorary title for Abraham to be called
a Muslim when he completely surrendered
himself to God's will do you know that
according to Muslims all prophets of God
were Muslims and all of them carried the
same message in which they were calling
people to submit to God's will according
to Islam God have sent approximately
about
124,000 prophets to this world in the
Quran God have mentioned only 25 of all
these prophets and out of those 25
prophets God have chose five to be
called the best prophets and only one
prophet of those five prophets God have
called him the Messiah which was Jesus B
be upon him do you know that a Muslim
cannot say the word Jesus by itself and
he have to say peace be upon him as a
form of respect do you know that Muslims
cannot and will not represent an image
of Jesus Beast upon him because no one
can replace His Image again this is the
way we honor Jesus Beast be upon him how
many time have you seen Jesus Beast upon
him being represented in a cartoon or an
image in any Muslim country
you will never why because this is
considered to be a great disrespect and
actually it's a blasphemy according to
Muslims to represent Jesus be upon him
in a in a form of an image in the
contrary you will see this being done so
many times in the west did you know the
part of being a Muslim that we have to
believe in Jesus be be upon him and a
Muslim is not a Muslim he does not
believe in Jesus do you know that God
have mentioned Jesus Beast be upon him
in the Quran 25 times versus he only
mentioned Muhammad be be upon only five
times do you know that the most
honorable woman in Islam was Mary the
mother of Jesus be upon him do you know
that Mary was mentioned in the bible
only 18 times and in the Quran she was
me mentioned 32 times Almost 100%
more do you know that in the Quran God
have dedicated a whole chapter for the
mother of Jesus Surah maram or chapter
of Mary also do you know that God have
dedicated a whole chapter in the Quran
to talk about the Last
Supper do you know that the most number
of people named Jesus worldwide were
Muslims this is Jesus Beast upon him in
Islam we honor him we respect him he is
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Secretary General from isna Haim h yes
thank you sir thank you okay so we got
to see this clip and it's I obviously
it's very sad you know you you you go
into your house of worship you want to
worship the same God that Jesus worship
the creator of the heavens and the Earth
you're going there minding your business
yeah and then you see these people
waving this Confederate flag you know
with uh many of them armed yeah and it's
a scary feeling what were your thoughts
on this a few things first we have to
remember to remain calm right no
situation ever got better because people
lost their tempers so we we always need
to stay calm
second and the sah and every Prophet
went through the exact same thing you
had people that opposed them people that
gave them a hard time and they dealt
with much worse than this third thing is
this is a teaching opportunity right uh
we have to view these protests and
islamophobes as people who are misguided
and do what we can to guide them we have
to remember the story of Omar who became
the second khif of Islam he he was one
of the most um violent and one of the
most rebellious people against Islam but
even he converted at some point so you
never know uh who Allah chooses to guide
so people like this either engage them
politely in a nice way teach them about
our religion invite them in break some
bread with them
uh try to explain to them that we have
nothing to do with what's going on
overseas in fact many of us came here to
escape what was going on overseas our
religion is a religion of Peace our
religion is one that respects
Christianity and Judaism and try to open
their hearts to Islam not necessarily
even to convert them but just to get
them to stop hating us and if they're
receptive alhamdulillah if not then
we've done our part we've done our part
in explaining our side and distancing
ourselves from what's going on overseas
if he choose es to hold on to his hatred
and his prejudices it's on him at that
point I like what you what you're saying
we take something really gloomy and dark
yeah which is obviously you know what
we're seeing here people basically
mocking you know uh someone who we love
mocking the the way of life that we
practice when in actuality now turning
into something good you said call them
in why you standing outside maybe in the
cold yeah absolutely come inside and
break some bread do you remember in
Arizona a valley man who went to a rally
outside of Phoenix mosque on Friday to
protest Islam has a change of heart
somewhat went to the event where armed
demonstrators spoke out against the
Muslim faith but after being invited
inside the mosque he says a congregation
made him feel welcome here's Jason
Ledger and the organizer of Friday's
rally wearing their profanity lace
t-shirts now things have changed out of
respect for the Islamic people knowing
what I know now since I have talked to
them and spoke with them no no I would
not do that again um just because I I
don't don't want to offend or hurt those
people where they had the bikers and
there were hundreds of bikers they were
protesting at Aid I think it was in
Phoenix Phoenix Arizona in Phoenix
Arizona and then what what did they do
the people at this Masjid were were very
wise masallah they invited the leaders
of this or of uh of uh of of the
organizers right they invited them into
the Masjid and they explained to them uh
that we have nothing to do with what's
going on overseas they broke bread with
them they had a meal with them and then
by by the end of it all you see them
hugging he had a change of heart he had
a complete change of heart he had a
complete change of heart mallah so this
was somebody who was very angry he was
he was armed he had hundreds of bikers
with him he he organized a protest
against a Masjid and within just a few
hours right of this very calm peaceful
accommodating response you saw them
shaking hands and hugging right that is
the example for us to follow I heard a
recently a beautiful quote by Nelson
Mandela who talked about no one is born
with this hate they're taught to hate
abut teach them how to love now we got
to read those let's go to we're going to
go back to another gloomy situation okay
a little scary then we want to bring
some light on it after the rain comes
the sunshine like we just did let's see
we're going to go to this clip right now
henin is being sued over declaring his
store a Muslim free zone which he made
while standing in front of the
Confederate battle emblem okay we got to
just see this clip now you know at one
point the African-Americans in this
country were being told to get to the
back of the bus yeah there was black
free zones actually yeah is this in
America we're seeing now Muslim free
zones Subhan Allah uh these are the
times that we live in and again you were
talking about taking a negative and
making into a positive that after the
rain there is the sunshine absolutely
yes this is actually a good sign right
because whenever a
minority receives a lot of push back
means that they're on the verge of
becoming mainstream right so if you look
back in American history Jews went
through the same thing Catholics German
Irish Chinese African-Americans
obviously you name it right they all had
to uh go through their phase of being uh
discriminated against being hated but
then eventually that's a sign that
you're becoming very close to reaching
mainstream so that's that's the positive
that we can we can take from this and
again this this gentleman who is who was
doing this it's a teaching moment we
need to reach out to him which I know
Hassan shibli the director of car of
Florida did reach out to him and they
were making some progress for a time but
then things fell apart unfortunately but
this is a sign that Muslims were
becoming mainstream now if you put a
Muslim free zone most people once you
open up the door of communication you
realize what a Muslim is and you realize
that that Jesus peace be upon him you
know he would probably be more your
complexion yeah and he would look more
like a Muslim looks like today yeah some
people are are seeing some pictures that
because you know people have modified it
we don't actually know exactly what it
looks like but people you know they give
some descriptions he would actually uh
probably not be admitted into the store
either yeah that's true that's true and
and and the thing is here's he would
deny Jesus we have to sympathize
somewhat with this store owner CU I I
see him as a victim yes of all of this
propaganda that you have in the medium
in in in the media you know you
mentioned earlier that um hate is not
natural hate is taught so is fear I
don't think fear is natural I think fear
is taught and this man has been taught
to fear Muslims he's been taught by the
media he's been taught by islamophobes
he's been taught by a very well
organized well-funded
islamophobia machine so now it's the
responsibility of the Eddie show the Deo
it's a responsibility of isna and ikna
and K and all the other Muslim
organizations to C that and this is you
know this is why Allah sent us here I
love it I love that's what our our way
of life this way of life that CS us to
have peace with our creator peace with
ourselves peace with Humanity to be
optimistic to take these gloomy
situations abut and make the best was a
very optimistic man so to absolutely not
to just look at ourselves like the
victims but to put this information out
there and to see how we can diagnosis
because many Muslims will see this and
they'll fall into great despair they'll
be really saddened you know to think
that okay this is what my neighbor
thinks of thinks of me you know and um
hopefully they can go ahead and and and
listen to this wonderful advice that
you're saying and the situation around
no but you're right we cannot have a
defeatist mentality yeah the early
Muslims they were always outnumbered
they were always outnumbered but they
were very positive and they were
successful so we need to get out of this
mentality of we are victims we are
oppressed we have some issues that we're
dealing with and we're doing what we can
as a community but we have to remain
optimistic and situations like this we
need to see them as opportunities uh to
represent ourselves see them as
opportunities to talk to people about
Islam and correct people's
misconceptions opportunities that's what
we have here and we'll be right back
with more on the dean show don't go
anywhere being an African-American being
a veteran of the United States military
I feel as though these people who came
out here armed outside of the mosque a
place of worship is completely
disrespectful this is on us soil they're
US citizens they have the right freedom
of speech freedom of spirituality and I
think that is is disgraceful this is not
the American way this is not the
American
dream is there a purpose to our
lives do we simply exist to make a
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living or were we meant for something
greater
something more
meaningful I looked everywhere for
answers and I
found Islam
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I started my
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what would you how would you approach
someone you're going to your house of
worship and you see or you're you're
going to the store and you see a sign
Muslim free zone how would you engage
with someone like this on the other side
yeah first thing again you have to be
very calm very polite um and you have to
know when to engage that person you know
do you want to engage them at the
busiest time of the day when they have
customers going in and out and so forth
probably not right we have to be tactful
so maybe wait until the shop owners he
closes shop maybe call them after hours
ask them to to come meet with them right
at a convenient time for them then you
engage them maybe you invite them over
to the Masjid maybe you invite them over
to your house right because the Masjid
might be intimidating for them if you
invite them over to your house invite
them over for dinner who's going to say
no to a free dinner right you invite
them into your home and you break bread
together it says something and that's
that's what they're not expecting what
they're expecting is a sort of uh
violent or antagonistic response right
they're trying to get a rise out of us
but let's be tactful right and respond
with kindness and generosity I think
inviting people over for dinner at your
home is a great way to start and this is
what what Islam teaches us so it's not
something that we're doing covert this
is what our religion teaches us this is
the basics of of Islam uh but a lot of
times you know Muslims they might react
and it's beautiful you're giving that
advice not to react On Emotion yeah and
just to stay calm and another thing is
to really learn your religion ab and
you'll see how to communicate with
people in a positive light and be
optimistic and take these situations to
hopefully do some good with it
absolutely you you have to be armed with
knowledge knowledge yeah right this is
not an easy thing to do interacting with
people that are afraid of Muslims or are
very antagonistic towards Muslims is not
an easy thing to do so you have to arm
yourself with the right knowledge not
only about Islam but about modern issues
statistics on terror terrorism and
things of that nature and are Muslims
really involved in these kinds of things
and right you have to know what to say
you have to anticipate the questions
that they're going to ask you have to
anticipate how they're going to respond
you have to anticipate the biases that
they might have and what they heard on a
certain News Channel or from a certain
islamophobe so you know how to counter
them because if you can't counter them
properly you might just end up
reinforcing the negative Concepts that
they have and and in the verbatim word
of God the Quran God Almighty is
actually talking about this not to
return harness with harshness but with
good and then this person might end up
being absolutely no situation ever got
worse because somebody was calm and
polite un loving yeah absolutely now
tell us how do you how does uh your
organization that you're the Secretary
General of do you invite uh people of
other faiths Christians and other not
yet Muslims who are out there to get to
learn about the Muslims and Islam
absolutely isna we are engaged in
Interfaith work 24/7 right we do this
year round
and Interfaith work is one of those
things that unfortunately is is
undervalued by many people within our
community they just don't see the the
value in it Interfaith work is building
relationships it's building friendships
it's building Partnerships that result
uh in
collaboration um some of our best
supporters people who have defended
Muslims have been people of other faiths
Christians and Jews and otherwise uh in
churches in synagogues and in the Halls
of Congress right but those people
defended us one because out of out of
their Goodwill but also because of the
relationships that they have with
Muslims right Muslims are a minority in
America we are about 1% that is a tiny
tiny tiny minority it makes sense for us
to partner with larger groups who share
our values right why why wouldn't we do
it and this is this is one of the best
forms of dawa they they they see us they
get to know us they know that Islam is
really just an extension of their own
religion this is not a new religion this
is not this is not an other we are not
people to be feared we are your fellow
Americans we are your brothers and
sisters in humanity we are your brothers
and sisters in monotheism and we have
the same concerns and the same
aspirations as you do I've got a
mortgage to pay I got to get my kids
through college worried about losing my
job I have a fight with my wife or what
whatever the situation may be right I'm
going through the exact same things that
you are there's no need for you to hate
me or to fear me now for the not yet
Muslims our brothers in humanity who are
out there and they're watching they got
uh they don't have no plans uh next
weekend yeah you're actually hosting an
event coming up I have a suggestion this
night we have our annual convention
every year it is one of the largest
Gatherings of Muslims in North America
15 to 20,000 people come every year it
is Labor Day weekend in Chicago at the
Rosemont Convention Center September 4th
through September 7th everyone is
invited this is not just for Muslims
this is for people of any faith or
people of no faith we have Scholars we
have activists we have entertainment we
have events for the Youth we have events
for college age people we have um roundt
workshops we have a little bit of
everything and we have something for
everyone Donald Trump can come all the
politicians Donald Trump is welcome to
come yes if he wants George Zimmerman uh
this guy from the Muslim free zone
they're all of it he should he should
come and see Muslim families with little
kids you know running around just coming
to learn about their religion they
should come and hear how beautifully we
speak about Christianity and Judaism
about how beautifully we speak about our
country America about how beautifully we
speak about people of the book our
Christian Jewish brothers and sisters
and the guys in Indiana standing with
these masks that we saw the video by
themselves they are welcome to come
everybody's welcome to come and this is
not just is's convention right this is
Chicago's convention the Chicago Muslim
Community
they are hosting us they are Partners in
this event the Council of Islamic
organizations of Greater Chicago they
are our co-hosts so this is not just an
isna event this is a Chicago event thank
you we started with peace we are with
peace thank you so much thank you so
much thank you for thank you very much
and thank you for taking the time to
tune in to the dean show again if you
haven't subscribed subscribe and we took
the all up iny face islamophobia talked
about it a little bit and then the
subtle islamophobia and then took the
gloomy turned it into something bright
we need to be optimistic we need to be
educated and if you care you need to
share with your best example that Islam
teaches us to be upon and going ahead
and inviting those of your neighbors to
have a good communication with yourself
so we can go ahead and try to clear up
this misinformation about Islam and
Muslims we hope that you got to benefit
from this week's episode of the dean
show and we look forward to seeing you
next time and maybe we'll see you at the
convention make sure you're there we'll
see you peace be with you salam alaikum
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