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the alhamdulillah Alum greetings of
peace peace be upon you and we are
coming to you again another episode of
the dean show every week same time same
channel it's a very exciting topic today
with a very exciting guest my next guest
is Dr Lawrence Brown who's going to come
out in a second it's somebody who has a
DD doctor in Divinity also has a PhD in
religious studies he used to be an
atheist and was trying very hard to be a
Christian but he ended up following the
way of Jesus the way of Moses the way of
Noah the way of Abraham the way of all
the prophets Islam because Islam simply
means to acquire peace by submitting
yourself entirely to the owner of Peace
the one God now our next topic Dr Brown
is going to be giving us the top five
reasons why Jesus peace be upon him
we've covered in previous shows the top
reasons why he's not the begotten Son of
God why he's not the Son of God and now
we're going to be covering Dr Brown's
top five reasons why Jesus is not Divine
at all God is God Jesus is Jesus Jesus
was a mighty messenger never did he say
he was God never did he claim to be God
and we're going to be giving you the
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this is the dean show Salam Alum peace
be with youum Salam and to you be peace
you you know it I know it they don't
know it you know Abraham Moses Jesus
Christ and the last and final message
proph mamm peace be upon him they used
this greeding they didn't say what's up
guy they said Peace be unto you is this
fact or fiction no this is this is the
truth that's one fact fact or fiction
that many people they do get a little
bit stressed out and they do childish
things and they'll say ignorant things I
think because of this next topic we're
about to cover so we don't want to hurt
nobody's feelings Islam says I shall
love all mankind and from the beginning
we know that everyone's born in original
goodness with a fresh clean page so we
want the best for everybody but just
like that computer you get it out the
box it gets a virus here there so I
think some things that have crept into
the minds of people a lot of these false
ideas and this is one of them that Jesus
is divine he has some kind of divine
status that he's co- equal to God this
is definitely fiction not fact that's
why we brought someone who's credible
someone who many consider a Christian
scholar to come on and to discuss this
issue are you ready I'm ready but I have
to I have to say you you just touched on
something you said it's something that
has crept into people's thoughts this
isn't a concept that has crept into
people's thoughts this is a concept that
crept into church Cannon I mean this
crept into an established religion which
went around the world which has been
spreading this Viewpoint for more than a
thousand years almost you know going on
2,000 years so it it is it is critical
to address this issue very critical and
I think this is why you know you have
people who get angry and you know we
bring the evidence we don't play so
they'll make up childish claims and
they'll start calling Muslims terrorists
not all terrorists are Muslim but all
Muslims are terrorists all this you know
just false rhetoric you know and we know
that Islam has nothing Islam has nothing
to do with killing innocent men women
and children we want peace we started to
show it peace and and we want to have
peace they first got to have peace with
their creator you know it's funny that
you should say that because actually I
was thinking just before this show we
didn't talk about this this wasn't
planned but I was thinking just before
this show that it was funny how we start
each of these shows with the greeting of
peace and with the discussion of this on
a previous episode I was discussing how
Jesus Christ taught his disciples to
offer the greeting of peace to one
another and then he set the example by
doing it himself offering the greeting
of peace and you know here we are
talking about peace peace peace and yet
other people are talking about Muslims
as terrorists you know we can't be
completely insensitive we understand
where they're coming from we understand
about 911 we understand about the subway
bombings in England okay but we also we
can't forget that um terrorism you know
crimes in general crimes have been
perpetuated by people from all walks of
life from all
institutions um and you can't just you
just can't put a pigeon hole and say
okay we agree not all Muslims are
terrorists but pretty much all
terrorists are Muslims you know I I
looked back recently over the FBI
statistics which are listed on the
internet and it shows that over the past
well since I believe it was since 1980
okay so we're talking about a catalog
over a significant period of time when
you look at the number of terrorists
acts committed on United States soil
only 6% of them were carried out by
Muslims only 6% 6% now you've got you've
got anti-abortion terrorists you've got
tax Pro protester terrorists you've got
right-wing terrorists you've got white
supremacist terrorists you you have you
have a a large lists of uh of groups and
even those who had no group affiliation
committing acts of terrorism and nobody
is standing up and saying you know we we
we understand that all Southern Baptists
are not terrorists but all abortion
clinic bombers are southern Baptists
nobody says that because the media focus
is not on that number one and number two
it's not true okay okay it's just not
true and in the same way the media Focus
right now is to take anything that you
know anything that puts the Muslims in
the in the spotlight and blow it up to
make it look normal make it look normal
for the Muslims this and this you know I
mean every time I see this I almost want
to just like grab the television and say
you know grow up I mean grow up see the
world the way it really is there are
good people and there are bad people in
pretty much every Walk of Life in every
country
uh you know it's like equal rights you
know uh movement you know no matter what
race color creed religion you know
Society whatever there are good and bad
people in all walks of life we as
Muslims we denounce terrorism it's a
crime we recognize that does that mean
that there are not Muslims who are
terrorists of course not there are okay
and they are criminals and we recognize
them as criminals and we would we would
be the first to put them in imprison
ourselves you go to some countries
Muslim countries and you find out that's
exactly what they're doing you know in
Saudi Arabia and
Indonesia the M the Muslims recognize
those who are upon deviant ideology
those who are at risk of terrorism and
they're put in jail yeah so we got to
clear up one point and hopefully now
that that sincere individual can see
past all the
anti-islamophobia and whatever other
ideas have been put out there that you
know associate Islam Muslims with
terrorism uh you explain this quite well
but let's get back to the main issue at
hand those top five reasons why Jesus
who's beloved to our heart we're not the
Antichrist we love Jesus no muslim as a
Muslim L you be in Jesus let's start
with number five we got to get through
all of these in this show give it to us
number five to begin with Jesus Christ
himself denied Divinity in John 14:28
he's quoted as having said my father is
greater than I John 5:19 the son can do
nothing of himself John
8:28 I do nothing of myself but as the
father taught me you can you can go down
a long list I've just given you three
quotes but there's actually a very very
long list of passages in which Jesus
Christ showed himself as subjugate to
God Luke 48 um you shall Worship the
Lord your God and him Only You Shall
Serve him Only You Shall Serve you know
if ever there were a time for Jesus
Christ to have said You shall worship me
uh this could have been it but what did
he say you shall Worship the Lord your
God and him Only You Shall Serve so
these these are a number of a very very
long list of passages in the Bible in
which Jesus Christ denies Divinity shows
himself as being subjugate to God and we
not not partner with God but subjugate
not at all a partner with God Mighty
messenger of God and we're going to
continue on with Dr Brown's five top
reasons how Jesus could not was not
never was never claimed to be any
co-equal or of any Divine status with
God the Creator the one God we be right
back with the rest of the four here on
the dean show Islam prohibits killing of
innocent human beings human life is
precious there always someone that will
be there to say something negative but
at the same time there'll be someone
there to say something positive also
just hold on to the Rope of Allah
everything in this universe rely and
need Allah the Quran says don't kill
women don't kill children don't kill the
old people don't attack the civilians
this is what the prophet Muhammad told
us said that the prophet never ever
start a war against
anybody I am not afraid stand alone
I am not afraid to stand alone if Li by
I am not afraid to stand
alone I am not afraid to stand alone if
Li by I am not afraid to stand
alone I am not afraid to stand alone if
Li by I am not afraid to stand alone
why is our news media foaming at the
mouth when it comes to stories about
Islamic terrorists but not white guy
terrorists it's not cuz Muslims are a
bigger threat in fact between 1980 and
2005 94% of all the attempted or
successful terrorist attacks on us soil
were not carried out by Islamic radicals
but instead by non-muslims mostly white
guys so then why the
obsession back here on the dean show
with the top five with Dr Brown wasting
no time let's go to number four take it
away Dr Brown okay what we just talked
about was how Jesus Christ denied
Divinity now let's talk about what he
affirmed he affirmed his Humanity he
affirmed that he was a prophet ET he
affirmed that he was a man read Mark 6:4
Matthew 13:57 Luke
13:33 again these are only three
passages of a list of passages which
defined Jesus Christ as a man and as a
prophet okay so on one hand item number
five he denies Divinity item number four
he affirms his Humanity he affirms his
prophethood that's number four that's
number four let's keep going let's keep
going number three number three the only
New Testament verse the only New
Testament verse uh to teach the
Incarnation is 1 Timothy
3:16 go look it up in this verse you
will find it clearly states in the Bible
1 Timothy 3
3:16 it clearly states God was manifest
In the Flesh huh well well that's it God
was manifest In the Flesh that's the
proof right there right uh Jesus must
have been
Divine well there's only one problem the
problem is that as with other verses we
have previously discussed you will find
that in your English translation you
will find that in virtually any
translation you read anywhere in the
world but I'll tell you where you will
not find it you will not find it in the
original manuscripts from which the
Bible was translated the reason why and
this is brilliantly exposed by Bart D IR
in his writings he's not the only
scholar to have written about it this
has been written about since the time of
Sir Isaac Newton who exposed it in one
of his letters but could not talk about
it because to talk about it in his time
would have brought condemnation by the
church but since the time of Sir Isaac
Newton this has been exposed what has
been exposed what has been exposed is
that the scribes took the word who and
changed it to the word God the original
passage spoke of Jesus Christ who was
manifest in the flesh but now when you
read it it says God was manifest In the
Flesh okay that's that's because why
that's because we're reading our
translations and we are trusting the
people who who took the
manuscripts which were copied by the
scribes and the
scribes uh introduced errors into the
manuscripts and then carry them forward
okay um but we but we now have the you
know the oldest manuscripts the uh codex
fanaticus the Codex excuse me the Codex
sinicus and the Codex vaticanus which
are the the oldest manuscripts that we
have and from these we we can learn that
this passage originally was speaking of
Christ who was manifest In the Flesh not
God who is Manifest In the Flesh that's
number three that's number three let's
keep moving along number number two two
number two is just common sensical okay
God is all knowing god is all powerful
God doesn't need anything right think
about it if God needed something then
God wouldn't be God because he would be
relying or dependent upon something else
to satisfy his needs so God cannot need
anything God is all powerful he's all
sufficient and yet throughout the Bible
we we read about Jesus's humanity and
his needs I mean he was born he was
suckled at the breast of his mother uh
he he ate he drank he slept um when it
came to items of worship I mean he made
Evolution he prayed he fasted he made
pilgrimage all of these things uh reveal
his
Humanity okay and it reveals something
else and it reveals that he was
dependent upon something when he was a
baby he was dependent upon his
mother okay can you imagine Jesus being
God being dependent upon an element of
his own
creation I mean he needed to find food
he needed to find drink he couldn't he
he slept why because sleep would
overcome a human being sleep does not
overcome God he prayed why if you are
God and you have the ability to do
anything you want because you're all
powerful what is the purpose of prayer
to
yourself so as I said number two is just
kind of common sensical here you have a
man whose humanity is is well
documented uh showing that he was
dependent upon God he had needs and this
is not godly this these are the
characteristics of a man not a God now
before we go on to the number one reason
of the top five your top five Dr Brown's
top five reasons why Jesus peace be upon
him this Mighty messenger who we love
and rever no muslim is a Muslim unless
he believes in Jesus some might be
hearing this for the first time like wow
these people really are not the
Antichrist they love Jesus and we feel
we follow him more than a lot of
Christians and tell us now I've had the
wonderful opportunity to interview other
uh Christian Scholars former uh people
who are Christians like Dr Gerald Dirks
finished from Harvard uh divinity school
also a sister by the name of Donell she
finished Seminary school got her Masters
and others and they all came to a point
where they you know in seminary school
you go deeper into the text you study
the history and they see that oh oh
certain things unfolding that the layan
doesn't see now they have to come to a
to a point like of no return do they
continue further or sincerity how can I
preach teach something that you know
these verses are taken out here these
are concocted it doesn't make sense you
know and it's confusion so they back
away what is your opinion do many of the
people who go to the Seminary
School big business other personal
interests you might lose your status you
might not be able to hang out with some
of the elite there are many sincere
people out there I'm sure or some people
just get so emotional and wrapped up and
they're not using the logic and the
tools that God gave us what do you think
about this yeah no actually uh Barty IR
speaks about this in one of his books
how he does he finds it just yeah he he
found it disappointing that everybody
goes through Seminary school and they
learn these things but when they come
out they just go back to Towing the line
of whatever denomination they're
following and that does seem to be the
common experience um I in my
interactions in my Interfaith
interactions with other priests
ministers I shouldn't say other because
I'm not a priest or a minister but
interactions with priest ministers and
so on when I bring up these points they
know these points before I have
discussed them they know them oh no they
they know them they and and they were
raised upon these uh pieces of
information in their own teaching but
because these pieces of information
conflicted with their own Doctrine they
went with Doctrine over uh you know over
what made sense over the evidence
basically uh most in my experience most
people teach the most people treat these
discussions like religious turf wars
rather than a sincere effort to get to
the truth you know in Islam we submit to
God that means we submit to the truth
okay and one of the things we say is we
we openly admit if Jesus Christ were the
Son of God we would be the first to
worship we would be the first to worship
him because we're not trying to defend
our position we are upon an endless
search for the truth and wherever we
find that truth that's what we're going
to go with but in my experience that's
not the common opinion the common
opinion is people are looking for any
evidence that supports their position
when they encounter evidence contrary to
their beliefs even though it doesn't
matter how strong that evidence is they
just push it aside yeah yeah now before
we go to break and we give the number
one reason just one more point if you
can comment on this we know that you
know we wouldn't accept this in our
daily lives we really we get an attorney
we drop a contract if there's anything
that's taken out from here if something
is crossed out something doesn't make
sense we won't sign it we won't put our
name on it but many of these books you
know the gospel of Matthew Mark Luke and
John you mentioned in the previous show
that uh no credible scholar would say
that these are from the disciples these
are Anonymous books and so are many of
the other gospels so people rest their
whole salvation on Anonymous books that
we don't even know who the authors are
would this even stand up in court with a
court case can with no
Witnesses um I mean certainly we can
discuss that on another show probably
yeah because the discussion of the Bible
is a very long one but yes all four of
the gospels were Anonymous none of them
were signed none of them were attributed
to a particular author biblical Scholars
agree that Matthew Mark Luke and John
probably did not write Matthew Mark Luke
and John uh they were authored by other
personages who were gifted in Greek but
they were not the uh Earthly Disciples
of Jesus and they were they were not
even the people to whom they were
attributed because Matthew Mark Luke and
John I mean uh these were not uh you
know most of them were not even
disciples so but this is a long
discussion long discussion long
discussion but these are just
mindboggling facts not fiction that many
people don't know about and that's what
we're here to discuss and we want the
best for everybody we'll be right back
with the number one reason why Jesus
peace be upon Him is not God never
claimed to be God has no Divine status
with God is not co-equal to God God is
God Jesus is Jesus we'll be right back
here on the dean show I don't say the
people I used to be a Christian I still
carry the values and principles of
loving Jesus Christ and perhaps maybe
more than the people who call themselves
Christians so I think I got the best out
of Christianity by becoming
Muslim so many other things that you can
enjoy without drinking a sip of alcohol
death is the same thing it's not an
obstacle it's not something to cause
people to get completely desperate and
start stopping living their lives No it
should be a motivation it's only one
life that you're going to be living so
you better do it for Allah subh wa
tala I am not afraid to stand
alone I am not afraid to stand alone if
a li by I am not afraid to stand
alone I am not afraid to stand alone if
it Li by I am not afraid of stand alone
I am not afraid to stand alone if a li I
am not afraid to stand
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alone back on the dean show we're giving
you the top five reason Dr Brown's top
five reasons why Jesus peace be upon Him
is not co-equal to God is Not Divine of
any status close to God other than a
messenger of God let us continue when
from 5 4 3 2 and the number one reason
Dr Brown take it away okay number one
reason is that in the Bible we don't
find any evidence to support Jesus being
Divine now a lot of people have thrown
out a lot of reasons that they consider
to be evidence let me just go through
those number one Jesus performed
Miracles uh he cured the blind he uh
healed the lepers he raised the dead
they all say okay he he performed these
great Miracles therefore he must be
divine then again in the Bible we have
Elijah doing all of these same things we
have a number of prophets doing
performing a number of Miracles and the
you know so you have to you have to
either invite all of them to the party
you have to say performing Miracles
means that you are Divine therefore all
of these prophets are Divine because
they all performed Miracles uh or you
have to recognize that this is not a
sign of divinity that the prophets were
were performing Miracles by the power of
God God not by any power of their own uh
second issue some people say well Jesus
was divine because he was the Savior
well the word translated to savior is
spelled y a h a it is encountered 27
times in the Old
Testament is is encountered with Ood
with uh Shaman with Gideon with with
many individuals okay for whom it's not
translated savior with Jesus Christ is
translated savior but the word that is
translated savior is count is
encountered with many individuals
selective translation translating it to
savior in the case of Jesus Christ and
translating Yasha to uh a different word
for other individuals makes you think
that Jesus Christ was the only one
called savior the fact of the matter is
that that's only true in your
translation that's not true in the
foundational manuscripts so again this
doesn't hold any weight
um John
8:58 records Jesus as having said I am
Exodus 3:14 records God as having said I
am so some people say Jesus said I am
God says I am therefore Jesus Is God no
why because in John
8:58 the word is Emy e m i it's stated
152 times in the in the Bible okay uh
only one time is it capitalized and
that's when when it's attributed to uh
to Jesus all right the other 151 times
it's not capitalized why is that again
selective translation um another point
is that the word attributed to Jesus was
this eimi eming uh in Exodus 3:14 the
word attributed to God was haa or Hoon
so you can't equate em with haa or with
Hoon these are different words um this
is so well recognize the revised
Standard Version uh new revised Standard
Version new iny new international verion
they have all reduced the capitalization
and you cannot find support for this in
their Bibles because they are upstanding
according to their scripture and they
recognize it now there are many other
doctrines such as Jesus being the
right-hand man uh the the quotation thus
says the Lord I am the first and I am
the last beside me there is no God
negates that uh in addition we know that
in Genesis 5:24 Enoch walked with God so
if Jesus was the right-hand man
according to Mark 16 1619 and according
to Genesis 5:24 Enoch walked with God
what does that make him um forgave
forgiveness of sins according to the
Bible Jesus forgave sins but according
to John 5:30 Jesus said I of myself can
do nothing so was he forgiving sins or
was he passing on God's forgiveness of
sins uh Jesus was called lord so is
Abraham so is Moses Moses was called
Elohim to Aaron Elohim means God in the
Bible Moses was recognized as God judges
were recognized as gods angels were
recognized as Gods prophets were all of
these were described by the same word
the same word Elohim which was
attributed to God okay so you you have
you have to embrace the inconsistency or
you have to recognize that you are being
selective in how you apply the
terminology saying I I want to believe
that Jesus Christ is is God so we'll
take this word and will'll translate it
in a way that makes him look like God
but with everybody else that this word
is applied to we'll we'll write it in a
different way this is not this is not
honesty this is this is not being
faithful to the scripture now in the
same way there are many other evidences
that we can cite but the point is
this it each evidence has to bring
something to the table to contribute to
the the doctrine if it's going to carry
any weight okay okay but if each
evidence carries no weight whatsoever a
thousand evidences still adds up to zero
you still get a goose egg you still roll
a donnut you cannot float a raft made
out of a 100 rocks because none of those
rocks bring any buoyancy okay you cannot
win a court case over a thousand
testimonials if none of those
testimonials brings any truth to the
matter to support to support your case
and it's the same it's the same here
every single one one of these claims to
support the Divinity of Jesus is easily
refuted so easily refuted that again it
just becomes common sensical you just
realize that none of these evidences
brings any weight to the argument so
number one fact of the matter in the
Bible there is no evidence to support
the doctrine of the Divinity of Jesus
Christ that is a lot of information it's
made quite simple to understand is there
anything we're getting a signal that
we're out of time look one just another
in another minute is there anything you
want to add to this just I think
everybody else out there knows the
arguments some people say Jesus Christ
was filled with the Holy Spirit but then
again so were Peter Steven Barnabas
Elizabeth Zachariah John the Baptist was
filled with the Holy Spirit from the
womb so if that makes you divine where
do they factor into this um some people
say uh that some of the followers
worshiped Jesus Christ uh the word was
prosecu
uh mean means bowed down the Bible also
describes a slave by the same word to
his master Abigail to David uh Cornelius
to Peter uh a sunite woman to Elijah so
again what does this make them if bowing
down to somebody makes them God you have
to you have to factor in the slave
master David Peter Elijah you know and
say that all these people were divine as
well um the the resurrection okay this
is kind of like the last thing people
say well Jesus was resurrected that
makes him God look check out the history
do me a favor take the four gospels line
them up from the alleged crucifixion and
look how consistent they are uh one
gospel says his last words were it is
finished another gospel says his last
words were into your hands I commend my
spirit you can't have it both ways these
are mutually exclusive one says these
are the last words the other says these
are the last words and they are
different uh Matthew records an
earthquake Matthew records an angel the
other three gospels are silent how do
you miss an earthquake and an angel in
in Palestine in that period where
nothing else is going on how do you miss
an earthquake an angel much less three
gospel writers missing it and one
recording it at the tomb it records I
mean you just look at it line up the
gospels and look I mean one gospel says
that when when they went to the tomb to
uh you know to to see Jesus there was a
man another gospel says an angel another
gospel says two men another gospel says
two angels
one gospel says they were outside one
gospel says they were inside one gospel
says that they were at the head of where
he was laying one one gospel says
different there is no consistency in the
stories and if there's no consistency of
the stories you would not accept this as
a standard of reliability in any other
testimonial why do you accept it in the
Bible so bottom line we can't even trust
uh we can't even trust the biblical
narratives in in relation to the
resurrection so we can't hold it up as
evidence these are the top five that's
these are the top fives that that's the
last of the evidences that I would site
that can be easily refuted we got a few
seconds how could people get a hold of
you read some of your books and if they
want to dialogue with you about this
topic further well you'll find this
information and a whole lot more on my
websites and my articles and my books uh
my website is level truth.com and ec.com
both of those are just two words no
spaces no underscores just levelt
truth.com
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