I cannot speak with you. There's a
soldiers.
There's soldiers.
Yes.
What are they doing here?
We are prison here.
What's happening?
They are keeping here and the soldiers
is upstairs.
We cannot move. We cannot speak with
you.
You can't leave the house? No. They told
you that?
Yes. I can't breathe.
How long are they going to stay?
I don't know.
Are they paying you any money?
You are kidding. He told us when the
soldiers come, they wake everybody up
and herd them into a kitchen for hours
while soldiers sleep in their bedrooms.
Greetings of peace. Before I bring out
my next guest, former UFC MMA
fightime world champion Jake Shields.
Let's have a look at this.
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I love you very much so much work that
you're doing. When I was ready to talk
about it, I would talk to I was
explaining how much respect I have for
the faith of Islam.
Welcome to the Dean Show. the D show.
Jake Shields.
Hey, how's it going?
How you doing, brother?
I'm doing pretty good.
It's good to have you with us here.
Thank you. Thank you.
So, um, five-time world champion,
veteran of the UFC.
Yep.
Tell us for our audience who uh is not
too familiar with you a little bit about
yourself.
Yeah, I fought like I said for um for 20
years professionally, you know, won five
world titles, fought for the UFC title,
uh multiple grappling championships as
well. So that was my uh entire life
completely focused for 20 years. Lately
been you know just kind of randomly
started tweeting started blowing up
there. So I started to get a big
following in politics by accident as
well.
Mhm.
So now you know doing multiple things.
You know it's interesting was that you
fought Sakuraba?
Um Sakurai I fought a massive star.
Yeah.
Yeah. When when I was listening to you
speak so he was he was a big name.
Yeah.
And then you were just coming up.
Yeah.
And you beat him.
Yeah. saying because they asked what was
one my meaningful fights that's not one
that hardly any people really remember
but that for me that was meaningful
because I was completely unknown they
brought me to Japan they gave me two
weeks notice they would give you short
notice because they wanted you to lose
no time to do a camp I went out there
and pulled a massive upset beat the guy
he was ranked number two in the world at
the time and I was unranked so that was
uh
pretty cool the first time on a plane
flying out to Japan another country a
massive arena and pulling a huge upset
so you were main you were main you with
other organizations were mainly with UFC
man I was all over. I fought with UFC. I
was with Strikeforce for a while. They
were uh unfortunately they went under,
but they were a massive show on Showtime
and uh and CBS. They were UFC's big
competitor for a while.
So, I was with them. UFC fought in Japan
uh and like Shudo Pancra used to be
massive.
Unfortunately, you know, the fighting in
Japan's gotten smaller, too, but they
had massive uh it was bigger than the US
at the time.
How did you become now? So you you went
from fighting and then being a a veteran
here in someone in the UFC and and in
the sport and you've become someone who
I've been following for a while on the
Twitter, former Twitter X.
Yeah.
And you've been you've been um I
actually got this video that I just uh
shared
from from your page,
the video that we just opened up the
program.
Correct.
And what's your reaction to uh some of
the words for the people that have have
weren't able to um see everything? It's
pretty much Israeli uh children singing,
"We will annihilate everyone in Gaza.
Autumn night falls over the beach of
Gaza. Planes are bombing destruction.
Destruction. Look, the IDF is crossing
the line to annihilate the swast that's
swastika bears. In another year,
there'll be nothing there, and we will
safely return to our homes. Within a
year, we will annihilate everyone, and
we will return to plow the fields.
At this point, I think it's not really
surprising. It's kind of what uh after
what we've seen the last, you know, uh 6
weeks or so, it's what, you know, you
see the the genocidal rhetoric that it's
not surprising at all. It's still
disgusting, of course, but we've seen so
much of this the last, you know, six
weeks, it's not surprising to me. I
think a lot of people at this point are
kind of getting used to still a little
weird to have little kids, you know, you
know, singing a song about massacring a
race of people, but not surprising.
I remember when this whole thing started
and kicked off one of your first tweets
regarding it, you were kind of on the
fence.
Yeah. I mean, I knew the Palestinians
were, you know, mistreated and stuff,
but also, you know, that they pushed the
massacre. It's such a horrible thing. I
can't condone that. So, I'm like, hey,
I'm just kind of staying out of this. I
understand uh you know I understand
they're mistreated but that was not not
okay what they did but you know the more
the bombing and the more stuff the more
investigating I started doing the more
awful I saw Israel was especially now we
were just talking about how the whole
invasion stories looking not quite what
they originally pushed out like you know
they had warning it was coming they uh
now it just leaked out that Israel was
bombing they killed at least 400 of
their own people not Hamas the stories
of the you know the behead of children's
obviously fake no evidence of any rapes
taking they put all they spun extremely
fake narrative right away to freak
people out and now this the truth's
coming out that's quite different. Mhm.
Max uh Blumenthal. He actually he's an
investigative journalist, awardwinning
independent journalist. You know, do you
know Max Blumenthal?
I know that name. I think I've seen his
tweets on Twitter. I'm not sure if I
follow him or if he just pops up in my
timeline.
Yeah, he he's actually someone who's
written on this. And then you also have
Herz uh I think it's the Israeli
magazine. They re they released uh they
adjusted the numbers now. But so what
you're talking about specifically is
that
I think this what they're coming out the
report I read is uh I've seen this a
couple places now and it seems like I
think the Israeli government even admits
it. They come out with their Apache
helicopter.
Apache helicopter. That's what I saw.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. The Apache helicopter.
They just started blasting people and
they killed you know hundreds of their
own people cuz they couldn't tell which
was which. And instead of like waiting
they just started spraying everyone. And
I think that's a lot of the probably a
lot of the civilians that died from the
concert was from the Israeli military.
Yeah. And then people getting burned up
and stuff from the he heavy artillery
shells from the tanks also.
Yeah, you can see all these like cars in
these videos of people like burnt to
death in them. And I don't think
I don't know for a fact, but I don't
think Hamas has any weaponry to do that.
So that that early on was suspicion of
mine when you seen this row of cars just
totally wiped out. It's like well what
what did Hamas allegedly do that with?
That was kind of an early sign that
maybe it was something else like
helicopters that came in and done it.
Now it's uh
now there are many helicopters came in
and wiped them out.
Yeah. I just want to make a disclaimer.
I I'm not I I I'm pretty sure you're
not. I'm not a card carrying member of
any hummus or
No, definitely not. Everyone's calling
me a terror sympathizer and, you know,
I'm not supporting them by any means,
but
I'm about truth,
justice, and it seems like that's what
you're about.
Yeah, I'm just trying to get to the
truth. You know, I don't support any
terrorist organization killing any
civilians, but I prefer to find out
what, you know, what's really happening.
And at the same time, I'm not somebody
I'm sure you're not either. So, I'm a
critical thinker, someone who is not
blindly following the mainstream media.
Yeah.
I have a mind of my own. I want to
investigate. And it seems like you're
the same way.
Yeah. Know, I've been, like I said, I
just start, you know, I've been digging
and the more I dig, the more I see uh
just lies upon lies that Israel has been
been saying for the years
and that's uh they've done a good job in
completely control of media. And they're
kind of losing control with with
Twitter. And I think I'm not really on
TikTok, but I guess Tik Tok, too. So now
they pulled all um all most of the big
advertisers canceled on Twitter trying
to get Elon Mus to censor us because
they're calling to censor like me and
some of the other big accounts that are
uh that you know I'm just I'm just
posting out videos I see pushing
articles stuff like that things that are
true and they're trying to cancel me.
Usually they're not trying to cancel you
for telling lies. It's for spreading
truth.
Mhm. You actually sent uh or responded
to a tweet uh that Elon Musk he he
recently he tweeted. He said um
he said this past week, so this is Elon
Musk saying this past week there were
hundreds of bogus media stories claiming
that I'm anti-semitic. Nothing could be
further from the truth. And then uh you
responded the word anti-semitic is
completely meaningless and at this point
it's not even worth addressing when
someone makes that accusate. So this is
you responding to that to so you're
sending uh yeah sending a message to
Elon Musk.
I've been called anti-semitic so many
times this week that it's a joke. The
first couple times I would respond and
you know try to argue not but then you
realize this it's a meaningless attack
to try to to try to shut you down.
And of course the campaign starts and
before you know it the guy's leaving
and he's an anti-semit because that's
what we say he is and that's one stain
you cannot wash.
Now, it shames me as a Jew to tell you
that, but that's the fact and it's
wrong.
You know, I have plenty do work.
Luckily, my Jewish friends aren't these
whiny little I see guys trying to get
people fired and canceled. My Jewish
friends are still my good friends. I've
had no falling out to them over this. I
can have disagreements. I'm actually out
here at Chicago, you know, doing
business with one of my Jewish friends
is the funny part. And there's no
So, so I people need to make sure not to
like turn the I've seen people start
turning racist courses. don't it's not
it's not Jews it's the Israeli
government.
People need to be very clear about that.
It's like you know people are trying to
blame Muslims for 911. That's completely
wrong and we need to do the same with
this. You can't blame all Jews for what
the Zionists are doing over there.
That's important because uh same thing
with my Israeli and Jewish friends
that I've had on the program and they're
totally against what's happening. So
Jewish rabbis,
Orthodox Jewish rabbis, they're saying
that
the followers of Theodore Herzo, who
made this whole movement Zionism,
that's who they're they're not following
Moses, the teachings of true Judaism.
They're following this whole Zionist
movement. Yeah.
And they're against that also.
Exactly. And that's
they're saying not in our name. You have
many Jews saying, "Not in our name."
Exactly. It's not It's not the Jewish
faith that's doing this. Exactly. It was
the Zionism, the Theodore was the
Herzel, or whatever. That's that's just
barely over 100 years old.
Yeah. So, I think this is real
important. And uh usually what I tell
people is me as a Muslim, I love Jesus.
I love Moses. I love Jesus' mother Mary.
They were of that e um
that ethnic group. So, it's actually
it's against Islam to be anti-semitic or
to hate someone because they're a
certain ethnicity. So, that doesn't
Exactly. And I think it's,
you know, all racism is bad and between
and going against all the religions like
all three of the religions are so
similar. That's why I think it's stupid
when you see Christianity, Muslim or
Judaism fighting when it's all based off
that they all worship the same God. You
know, it's interesting over there in
Palestine, you have
Palestinians who are Christian also
and they're being oppressed.
Yeah.
In this situation, same thing. They're
they're being displaced. Same thing. And
many people don't they they don't um see
that other side. that I really recommend
people to go to your um Twitter or ex
handle now because you're one of the
leading you where are you rank you're
actually one of the leading people out
there now
I think pretty wild I think it's like I
think I'm like top 10 in the world in
politics which is
top 10 you you weren't planning that I
had no idea I'm not a
it's funny part because I'm not like a
don't consider myself a political
commentator I just you know kind of uh
tweet random thoughts in my head but I
think it's uh
I think it's just because the other
people are so fake I don't think maybe
realistically I probably shouldn't be in
the top And but the people I'm against
are just so fake. They're bot. I think
it becomes obvious to people. They get
sick of it. Yeah. So I always tweet my
real thoughts, not necessarily the most
politically correct. I'll just, you
know, tweet random things without any
thought to it. You know, wake up, send
four or five tweets, and a lot of times
they'll end up going viral versus these
other guys are all trying to be think
things through, try to write them
perfect. They have like media teams
where they've done their whole life.
It's just so obviously fake and
unauthentic. And they also, a lot of
these guys show their bot, especially
this Israel thing. a lot of these guys
holding their tongue and then you start
seeing who who funds them. You know,
guys like Charlie Kirk, you know, I
asked him one of his tweets, uh, you
know, are you funded by any, uh, Israeli
Jewish groups? He responded back, I I
don't take money from the Israeli
government. I go, that wasn't my
question. Then no, no, no reply, you
know.
You know what? I commend you. I mean,
you have a lot of people who are
courageous enough to uh jump in a cage
to fight. you know, you've been doing
for so long, but when it comes to
standing for something, something
important, you know, something as vital
as this, I mean, you got innocent babies
lives being how many now? It's almost
like 5,000 innocent kids.
I think it's more than that now.
It's more, huh? And that's not even
Jake, that's not even considering how
many are not found under the rubble.
Yeah. So, probably Yeah, probably a
couple thousand more. Exactly.
Right. Did you see those? You saw all
these. I mean, you know what what
touched me? you see these kids who
survived, but then the little kids like,
"Get my There was two there was there
was um one I I won't forget. It was
amazing, you know, just like how they're
pulling together and the young brother,
he's like, "Get my brother over there."
He's with his sister. He's like, "Get my
brother." And then the little one, the
the little brother, he can't be like
five or six. He's like, "Where's my
mother? Where's my mother?" So, they
survive, but mother didn't survive.
Father didn't survive.
Yeah. I know. It's so sad. you know, I'm
on some of those Telegram channels and
it gets to the point where I can't watch
too many of them because it's just sad.
You know, these kids or parents losing
their children, just video after video.
Just you see the you see the real
suffering going on over there. And for
me, you know, when I first, you know, I
first this issue when I first started
siding with the Palestinian people, my
audience was more right-wing and they
were super mad trying to get me to go
the other side. But I'll always speak
what I believe to be true. You know, I
don't care if I lose followers. I think
initially I lost around 20,000
followers, but you know, now now I've
gained more. I'd rather speak my mind
and lose followers than be fake to keep
followers.
Yeah. And that's that's what I'm talking
about is like people will now when it
comes to standing for something like
what you're standing for, people are
scared. They're scared to get cancelled.
They're scared.
And that's the real courage. The courage
that you're displaying now.
Yeah. To be fair, you know, I do uh have
a job where I'm a little more harder to
fire. I do have them after me trying to
cancel me for everything I do. Uh
you know, set up seminar tours. They
were sending people letters trying to
get them to cancel trying to get them
all the guys I work with sending letters
trying to make up false alleizations of
you know anti-semitism saying Jew hating
Nazi.
So they they do have organized groups to
try to get people fired. So that's
that's how they keep that's how they're
able to spread to keep truth from
spreading to keep intimidation tactic.
You know you're following the footsteps
of someone like because many fighters
they'll come and go and they'll be
forgotten. But people like, you know,
it's not just because Muhammad Ali, he
was a great fighter, but it's what he
did outside the ring.
Yeah.
He stood for something and he left a
legacy. And and this is you're you're
following down the same way because
you're speaking up and you're using your
platform to speak for justice. It's not
about being I don't say pro this or pro
that. It's about protruuth, pro-justice.
Yeah. You know, I'll always try to find
what I think is truth. You know, I'm not
going to go and jump whatever side I
think is popular at the time. And yeah,
I said with my following, I went the
side. They didn't want me to. But now,
you know, but now I've he said, you gain
you gain new followers. You lose some of
the old ones. But I'm going to say what
I you know, people don't don't like me
for what I'm saying. I don't I don't
want them to follow me.
Now, I'm going to take us to this next
clip and I want you to check it out. And
it's more so also for the people who are
on the outside and maybe they haven't
had much exposure. I just want them to
put theirelves in this person's shoes.
Just imagine this happening to you. And
this is a day-to-day occurrence for many
for people who are living in this side
of the world.
We understand that Israeli soldiers came
in this morning and without any notice,
without any invitation, came into the
apartment and have been there ever
since.
Speak with you. There's a soldiers.
The soldiers?
Yes.
What are they doing here?
We are prison here.
What's happening? They are keeping here
and the soldiers is upstairs.
We cannot move. We cannot speak with
you.
You can't leave the house. No,
they told you that.
Yes. I can't breathe.
How long are they going to stay?
I don't know.
Are they paying you any money?
You are kidding.
I'm kidding.
Abdul Nasif, the bank manager said he
had to get to his bank to open the safe,
but that soldiers won't let him go. He
told us when the soldiers come, they
wake everybody up and heard them into a
kitchen for hours while soldiers sleep
in their bedrooms. They can't leave or
use the phone or let us in. He sent us
downstairs to see if his brother would
open the door
so we could ask the soldiers why they
keep taking over this house.
You want to come?
Yes.
Just open the door and then
They close the soldiers close the door
from the keys.
They they take the keys.
So we left and that night so did the
soldiers. But when we returned 2 days
later, the soldiers were back for more
surveillance. This time they kept the
women under house arrest but let the men
go to work and the children go to
school. When the children returned, we
caught a glimpse of two armed soldiers
at the top of the stairs.
Then more children came home.
But the soldiers wouldn't open the door
again.
They say if you don't go back behind the
wall, the children will not enter the
house.
But this is where the children live.
Yeah, but you need to go away from the
door so I can let the children come in.
Okay. Who are you?
He's a commander here.
He's a commander here. Yeah.
Can we talk to you?
No.
Well, we're talking to you now. Why
don't you tell us what you're doing
here?
Have you lost your voice?
Well, they've closed the door now.
They've closed the window. So, I guess
um if the children are going to get
home, we have to um we have to leave.
So, that's what we'll do.
An army spokesman told us the soldiers
use the NAS's house for important
surveillance operations. The NIFs told
us the soldiers usually stay for a day
or two, always coming and going in the
middle of the night. When they do go,
the Nissifs never know when they'll be
occupied again. It could be tomorrow,
next week, or next month. The only
certainty, they say, is that the
soldiers will be back.
Yeah, I think that's it's like crazy. I
think it's one of those things to me.
Not surprised now. I think a lot of
Americans don't know this is like the
normal over normal over there and
they'll even kick people out of their
homes for good. It just goes on. They
just the way they treat them. I think
you start seeing this stuff like this
can't be real. I think people are just
like refusing to believe they're doing
that. But that's but that's the norm.
It's like cognitive dissonance like they
can't imagine. But do you see like
imagine they're coming he was like there
I can't breathe. It's almost like is
this a joke? Is this like uh you know
satirical? What? No. This is actually
his
Yeah. I believe it's a third amendment
in our constitution is so soldiers can't
come in your house like that. So, you
know, you get these That's why I'm
laughing. These right-wing American guys
are constitutionalists. They claim
they're defending this. It's like uh
you're the same guy saying you use your
Second Amendment right to shoot anyone
that comes in your home and you're
defending these terrorists coming in
kicking people out of their homes,
bulldozing their homes. It's uh it's
kind of laughful these guys the
hypocrisy of their uh own thinking.
Wow, that's a good point. Look at that.
So you you'll fight here for the
constitution that now
third amendment leaves the third
amendment that soldiers can't come in
and uh and use your house like that
because that was a problem that used to
happen 100 years ago where soldiers come
in and take people's homes. They
literally wrote it in our constitution
and these same guys they say they're
constitutionalists are defending Israel.
Also the second amendment we can bear
arms we can shoot people that come in
our homes.
Uhhuh. Yeah. So and he's not just
they're not they're coming in the home
sleeping in his bed. Imagine someone
sleeping in your bed.
Yeah. Exactly. Just like
comfort and anytime they don't even
know. I've seen also some your your post
you have so these are even they have a
what is it breaking the silence these
are former IDF soldier they're coming
out
and we're getting this stuff from them
also
yeah I've seen some stories from the IDF
saying how they were they were told to
do they patrol these neighborhoods they
tell them to come in at night harass
families wake them up steal the homes is
talking about uh you know what a joke
their job is and this I believe this is
the West Bank I believe which Hamas
doesn't uh operate there so everyone was
like oh it's Hamas's fault Hamas's fault
well Hamas isn't even in the West Bank
so how do they justify that That's a
good point, too. That's another side
over here that they're not even there.
Yeah, exactly. There's no there's no
rationality to these people's logic.
It's just been uh
it's been spun by the media so well.
It's it's they can't stop believing it.
And I think uh I think like most of my
Jewish friends, the ones that are, you
know, hardcore Israel supporters, they
don't believe this stuff either. It's
not they think this stuff's right. They
just they don't believe it's going on.
They've been brainwashed as well.
That's another good point. The
brainwashing is also happening now.
programming and hopefully if anyone's
sincere and they take a look because
that's what many people did, you know,
who got on the side of the truth is they
got beyond the programming and they took
a deeper dive.
Yeah. Israel offers like what Birthright
where they pay for all Jewish people to
come out there. They show them around.
They preach all this propaganda to them.
So they try to put this program in their
heads. So a lot of them are believe it.
They don't, you know, they don't they
don't know this is going on themselves.
Is that um the actor James Wood? Actor
James Wood. Yeah. Is he Is that actually
his Twitter feed? That's He's a famous
actor, right? I was surprised and I saw
him tweeting no ceasefire, no comp
compromise, no forgiveness, and # kill
them all.
I was very shocked. I mean, I I've
watched some of his films. He's like
very good actor.
I was shocked especially because Elon
Musk said calls for genocide won't be
allowed. And what he's talking about
that is I guess uh saying from from
what? From the river to the sea,
Palestine will be free. They're trying
to say that's genocide, which that could
mean a lot because that could mean so
many different things to be free. It
just means you mean the Israelis could
move, but but the the Israelis try to
say that's a call for genocide, which
seems a little ridiculous. So I think
Elon caved and said he won't allow that
on there, but he allows this. So So you
can't say from the river to the sea,
Palestine will be free, but you can say
kill all Palestinians. I I've asked
Yeah, that's ironic. I've asked
Palestinian what does it actually mean?
What are you trying to eradicate? Say
say no. I mean you've had as you know
and when I sp speak to uh people who
know the history this these are
academics they'll say that Jews and
Christians and Muslims for over a
thousand years were living there in
peace
till Zionism came about Jews flourished
as as distinctly religious Jewish
communities and they weren't massacred
on the contrary they went to these Arab
and Muslim lands to escape persecution
uh from the crusades from the
Inquisition and from many other trials
and tribulations and the Um and even
World War II uh the Arab and Muslim
lands opened their hearts, opened their
lands and uh provided a safe haven and a
gracious hospitality for the Jewish
people. Clearly they we we have
different religion and yet uh we were we
were accepted in these Muslim and Arab
lands. We believe in one God and we were
accepted. We have different ways of
serving God. But yet as I we were
respected and even the Muslim religion
requires of that of the uh the Muslim
people to to provide protection and
hospitality and they did uh carry that
out. That's clear. Nobody could refute
this fact. The Jews and Muslims lived in
peace for over a thousand years. And why
is it suddenly now that the Muslims
these guys allegedly hate Jews? and and
suddenly want to kill them. Clearly,
it's Zionism that's the problem. It's
not Islam and it's not Muslims against
Jews. That's the main thing we have to
tell people. It's a political thing.
It's Israel. It's not the Jews. They
were relatively living in peace.
And you had now this um movement that
came and you had the apartheid state.
Now it's an apartheid state, open
concentration camp. So when they say
river to the sea, they want to be free
of all this. They just want their
rights. That's all it is.
And now they're they're banning they're
making it illegal to say that in
multiple countries. I think Twitter just
banned that saying. I think it's uh I
think it's France and Germany made it
where they can arrest you for saying
that and put you in prison. It's kind of
wild.
Isn't that wild? Yeah. In France, you
can't have protests or
really shows you how much power the
Israeli lobby has. You know, that's
thing I wasn't aware of either. You see
like how every politician, the guys that
were claiming they were anti-war, they
all of a sudden jumped at war for
Israel. Then I started saying, "This
makes no sense." I started digging, you
know, Apex by by far the strongest uh
lobby in the United States, which is uh
Apac, the pro-Israel lobby,
which all other foreign lobbies have to
register as a foreign agent, but for
some reason Apac doesn't. So they're
able to raise massive amounts of money,
which can be hard to track for these
politicians. I think they were bragging
what they think they get like 97% of the
candidates they pick win their
elections. So they're pretty much
rigging US elections so they can control
our our political system.
Wow.
and no one will ban it because they
control them all. So, they're not going
to pass a law making it illegal to to
lobby as it should be because they have
all the politicians in there.
So, they've created such a mess, it's
going to take a while to un to unwind
it. But, at least people are starting to
wake up and starting to see it.
Mhm. What What do you think? Uh,
recently you had um you had Candace
Owens. She had a tweet and it was a
pretty and I commend her really. She had
a a tweet that started off with saying,
"Blessed are the peacemakers."
And then she went on with the rest of
it. And it was uh and then at the end
she said, "You cannot serve both God and
money."
Mhm.
And then there was this back and forth
with her and and Ben Shapiro. Did you
see that uh clip with uh with Ben
Shapiro?
I saw them arguing a little bit, but
let let me show you the clip and I'll
get your your comments.
The question was about Candace Owens. I
think her behavior during this is
without a doubt.
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She still works my company. I think
she's been absolutely disgraceful. I
think I think that her her f
sophistication on these particular
issues has been ridiculous. It's not
full sophistication. It's ridiculous.
Everybody can see the moves that she's
making and the things that she's saying
and I find them disreputable.
Calling for peace. He's calling
disgraceful. seems ridiculous cuz
Candace Owens hasn't even said that
much, but they just want to completely
control everyone. They can see she's
probably starting to lean towards that
side. So, they're trying to shut her
down. So, some other organization was
like denouncing her today. So, yeah,
that's all she was doing. She was uh as
um as a Christian and I was wondering
like, you know, how are you going to be
able to support something like that? And
now she's actually taking a stand
subtly. I mean, just, you know, softly,
not even hard. And then boom, he's like
attacking her and whatnot because she's
just calling her heart. I mean, you
can't just help it like you're these are
human beings, but they want to paint
everyone like they're animals. See, and
this is the same thing that that was
that was done
to Jews at that time, what Hitler was
doing, what Nazis were doing, painting
them as rats and animals.
But then it was like, what were you?
Yeah. No, they're doing the exact same
thing with Benjamin Netanyahu calling
the Palestinians like human animals. And
uh it's pretty wild. The exact same
things they've always talked about.
they're doing.
Yeah. And that's the ironic thing. So,
she came out and then now he's, you
know, um saying what he's saying about
her
and he seems like he's been really
fueled up. He's like um
really excited about just
war, you know? He's like really excited
about just um how much is enough to him.
It doesn't seem like there's there's a
limit.
Yeah. Yeah, it seems like they want the
complete annihilation of, you know, of
Gaza and probably the West Bank. It
doesn't seem like they're really trying
to do any settling. They don't really
seem like they want any two uh state
solutions. It seems like they just want
to
wipe them out. You know, there's been
multiple people like Nikki Haley talking
about, oh, let's let's bring them into
Europe and America.
It it doesn't seem like, you know, they
said they have they have so much control
over our politicians. They seem like
they want to wipe them out and get them,
you know, take take with what's left of
left of Palestine and take that land. Do
you know a fighter? He he was recently
um on the Joe Rogan podcast. Ted Ted
Kennedy. Uh
Tim Kennedy.
Tim Kennedy. Did you ever fight him?
No, I know him, but never fought him.
Yeah. What What he he had some comments
recently. How did you
I didn't watch the episode. I think he's
a little more like pro-Israel, but I
didn't watch the episode. So,
yeah. So, you didn't watch that, huh?
No.
Yeah. Um is So, you have Where do you
see this going? Where where do you see
now with everything that you know and
everything you're you're you're becoming
more and more educated. Where do you see
this going?
It's hard to say. It's you know it's uh
I don't see any good solution
unfortunately
especially for the Palestinians are out
there getting massacred. Their homes are
all wiped out. You know tens of
thousands. I think around 20,000 of them
have been killed now. Uh
it's up to 20,000.
I think I saw like 19 written this
morning. Not not to mention the missing.
Wow. And then I think it was like more
like two I think 75% of them are
homeless now. So what's the solution?
They have nothing to rebuild, nowhere to
go. So I don't really know what they're
going to try to do. Are they going to
try to push them out to Europe and
America as refugees? Are they going to
let them rebuild? It's uh I don't really
see Israel offer them anything. I don't
unfortunately I don't see what good
solution they can have.
It is um you know we we often had that
slogan like never never again
and rightfully so.
Yeah.
Rightfully so. You had the the evil
Holocaust that happened and this is why
we kept hearing this repeated never
again to any that's not just for one
people for any people. But now we're
seeing it in 4K and it's like I always
I'm saying now like okay never again but
except for this group of people.
Yeah. You know I think they used the
Holocaust is such an awful thing. I
think they use that as leverage to
silence people. So it allowed them to be
pushing a genocide. And if you mentioned
that they would mention there they'd be
like Holocaust Holocaust. They've done a
great job of weaponizing it because
unfortunately there's been a lot of uh
awful genocides throughout history but
none of the other ones are pushed like
the Holocaust. You know there's there's
been multiple cases you know what 100
million people died through communism
but they don't push that. So that's
their way of sciencing their critics and
I think they were kind of uh keeping the
secret what they were doing.
Uhhuh. So, um do you see now when you
talk to a lot of the um people who are
also in in in the in the UFC and other
veterans, uh does this topic does it
come up because you have a lot of
followers and what's their do you see
more people wanting to speak up or
what's their stance or what's the the
feeling in the MMA world, UFC world?
The majority of guys I talk to like
either mostly agree with me or partially
agree. A few guys disagree. I think uh a
lot of guys just don't want to speak up,
which I understand. It's like they're
kind of trying to keep themselves, you
know, out of politics, especially seeing
the power of these some of these groups
have that are on the opposite side. All
the power and money is on the opposite
side, unfortunately.
Yeah.
You know, truth's on our side, but but
the power and money is all No one's
getting fired, you know, for uh for
supporting Israel despite them doing a
genocide, but lots of people are getting
fired for supporting Palestine. There's
a great saying that if you you either
stand
stand for something or you or you fall
for anything.
So those that's where you have you know
the the true true men true people of
courage you know and that's that's you
know what separates uh the real men from
the boys you know the ones who who
really have a heart not just to get in
the cage but to stand up for things that
uh will really make a difference in the
world. and you're trying to speak up to
help have a ceasefire to help stop
babies from from dying.
Yeah.
Yeah. You know, it's tough and sometimes
like, oh, is it worth this backlash? But
then, you know, I get people all the
time uh, you know, saying I had a bunch
of accounts saying they were on the
fence and they changed their mind for my
account and then I get people thanking
me wherever I go. People, you know, have
people even bring me gifts. I'm like,
"All right, I guess it is uh it is worth
putting myself on the line." You you
also had something that someone can
interpret as like a threat on your life
recently also and it was someone who's I
think it's like washed up uh MMA
fighter.
Yeah. Bum of a fighter. I know the guy.
He was in New York when I was out there.
Oh, you knew the guy also? He wouldn't
train with me cuz he was terrible. He
would get beat up by uh Gordon Ryan's
little brother was like 13 at the time
and he was like tapping him out with
ease. No way. Yeah. He he wouldn't train
with me. But then he's uh out writing
missiles names of first he first he
wrote a bunch of the Muslim fighters
names on missiles and I said that's kind
of ridiculous that he would do that.
Then he like wrote my name on a missile
and like oh I'll send this to you. Start
putting up my name on missiles to go
blow up little kids with it. It's uh
it's such a weird thing how they write
names of missile or they write like
taunts on missiles and they'll bring
Israeli school children to go and write
like uh to write on missiles and they'll
go bomb Palestinian childrens with it.
It's just such a such a sick thing they
do.
Yeah. Yeah, I saw the the name with
Khabib and then you had Hamzat, then you
had Muhammad Bila, but then not too long
ago you got added on that list.
Yeah, exactly. Cuz I was speaking out so
you put me. It's like Yeah, it's like a
threat, you know. I have like direct uh
direct threats in my life, too.
Yeah.
I think they're mostly, you know, full
of it. But it still sucks when you open
your inbox and people saying they're
going to come and kill you.
And be because what? Because you're
trying to have the you're trying to save
the babies.
Yeah. Yeah, they don't I think it's just
they don't want some of the truth
exposed. I think Israel only survived
through a lie, you know, or I think at
this point they've been there long
enough or people would be happy if they
did a real two-state solution, but I
think they want to continue taking all
the all that land.
Mhm.
Yeah, that's what it seems like. It just
uh these things are used as a pretext to
go ahead and just keep grabbing land.
Just keep grabbing land. Yeah.
And that was uh when you had uh I don't
know if you had a chance, I really
recommend people to bring it back to
Candace Owen. He brought on a person
whose parents survived the Holocaust.
Mother and father and other family
members were killed in the Holocaust.
Norman Finkelstein. He's Jewish
academic. 40 years he's dedicated his
life to this. And and those are the
people those stories really fascinate
me. People of Jewish descent,
Israelis, historians, ID, former IDF,
breaking the silence, who who come out.
You posted a lot of these also who come
out and they'll speak on the side of
truth. Yeah.
Why? For what? cuz you know they have so
much to lose but they're coming out to
let the world know.
Yeah. Cuz they just know they were on
the wrong side. You know it takes a lot
to own up that you know maybe especially
your IDF you're fighting on the wrong
side or being Jewish. Everyone expects
you to be on a certain side because your
race but it's uh but truth should
triumph all that.
Truth should trample that. Yes.
Absolutely. before all this uh started
happening, we were talking about there
was um things that were going on and you
were discussing you were on top of these
things. You had people coming into the
sports
arena and they were taking first place
because they were
they were biologically they were born as
a man but they were coming in competing
as women.
You were you were calling that out.
Yeah. I think that
you were one of the few calling that
out. It's utterly absurd and that's that
shows the absurdity of it because this
is an issue that almost everyone agrees
with and now a lot of people are
starting to speak against it. But when I
first started speaking against this, I
was one of the only people doing it. It
was like it was considered brave. Like
how is it brave to speak against men
competing with women? Everyone can look
at that and be like this is insanity.
But when I would first doing it, no one
would retweet my stuff. They would like
it. They they would tell me in secret
like, "Oh, I agree with you, but I can't
say it." It's like, "What are you
talking about?" Everyone agrees. Like,
you know, everyone I talked to oneonone
would agree with me, but then everyone
was scared to say it. So you see things,
it shows you a lot of times with truth.
Most people know it's true, but they're
scared to speak it. And that one to me
was was the most ridiculous because
everyone knows a man and a woman are not
the same physically. And people were
just too too scared to say it because
they were told they're not supposed to.
It just shows you how people would just
go along with absurd lies just because
they think they're supposed to.
Yeah. And that's what has you stand out
from from from the rest, right? because
you're you're not somebody who's uh not
only scared to uh come against, you
know, all odds in the octagon or the
ring, but also in real life. You're you
stand for what you believe and if you go
in the direction of truth. So,
yeah, I'm not willing to pretend that
that a woman is a man is a man is a
woman because I'm told uh that's what
I'm supposed to believe. And I was uh
shocked how many people are going along
with that. I think now not as many
people are going along with it. I think
people are starting to No one ever
believed it, but people were scared to
say it before. It was weird that was a
controversial to say it. Extremely
controversial to say that a year ago,
but now people are starting to be like,
"All right, this is absurd. I'm not
going along with it."
Yeah, it's crazy. Anything uh coming up
now? How's uh with you? Anything? Uh so
you're retired now?
Yeah, you know, it's possible I'd hop in
for, you know, one more if it was a if
it was like a big fight that made sense,
you know. Yeah,
it's a big name guy, but I'm not trying
to win any more world titles. It's uh
when you're fighting at that world
championship level, you got to be laser
focused. All you're doing all day, just
train, train, train. So, I'm more on the
business end of fighting, you know, just
finished up a seminar tour with Nate
Diaz and now just kind of uh you know,
relaxing. Couple more days of uh of work
out here in Chicago, then back to Las
Vegas.
Getting a chance to meet Nate Diaz with
you. I mean, he's a really like down to
earth guy. He was uh he was really cool
just to he's a real nice guy. He's he's
crossed into like mainstream
celebrities, so it's but it hasn't gone
to his head. He's still super down to
earth, super chill. Uh you know, still
one of my best friends.
Yeah. You you would think like, you
know, you get someone can get the wrong
impression, but just getting a chance to
spend some time with him and you you
just real seem like a nice guy.
Yeah, exactly. I've been fortunate where
I surround myself with good people.
Yeah. How can people go ahead and reach
your channel there or your your page
that they can go ahead and follow up on
many of the things that uh you're
sharing and how I got exposed to a lot
of the things through through your page
actually.
Yeah, my Twitter is uh Jake Shields AJ.
My Instagram is just Jake Shields. So,
those are probably the two best places
to follow me.
Yeah. All right. Thank you. Thank you.
It was good good having you on the
program.
Thanks for having me.
Thank you, Jake.
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