Salaam alaikum peace be unto you welcome
to the Dean show bismillah in the name
of God we start the Dean show is a show
that tries to educate the masses on
Islam and Muslims did you know that
Islam is the fastest-growing way of life
in the world today with over 1.5 billion
Muslims worldwide today we have one of
those Muslims here on our show as we try
to bring you a new show every week today
our guest on the D show we're on
location with Patrick Michael Ryan's and
ascended I say that right michael
patrick michael patrick ryan so we're
going to start off with patrick you
excited Michael Patrick Mike Michael
Michael you uh were actually you've been
a Muslim now for how long I venomous
some for a little for over 12 years 12
12 years in college yeah and you grew up
with background Irish descent I'm de
Leon I families an Irish family living
here in America visa living outside
Chicago and grew up so my family who is
a Catholic family bro it's my first time
to meet her Irish Muslim I'm the left
there there's a have you been to Ireland
I haven't been to Ireland yet most of
the rest of my family have I look
forward to though I do a lot of study of
Irish history and stuff keep up with our
people so there's more Irish Muslims
coming but it is small yet okay so you
have Muslim I I've been told them look
there's Muslims anywhere you go there's
Muslim this is true for sure so you know
there's both immigrants in Ireland and
as well as you know native Irish people
who are accepting Islam of course so the
people want to know let us know what
brought you to Islam well in my case
actually as I said I've always been
interested in different histories both
Irish history african-american history
when I was in high school I was really
interested in african-american history
and also in college that's what I
majored in so i came across and you also
know
was around the time of Spike Lee's movie
about Malcolm X yeah I remember the
people were wearing the X hats and stuff
so it was a you know big thing in the
culture but because I was interested
history I read the autobiography of
malcolm x and really got a lot more
information and really i admired a lot
of things about Malcolm X and he talks
in that book about how he transformed
himself from from just a person who you
know had a rough life and ended up being
in prison end up being involved in crime
and stuff and then transformed himself
first through a group called the Nation
of Islam which used the name of Islam
but didn't have a lot of actual
principal would you we would you want to
make this clear because there's a lot of
confusion the Nation of Islam has
nothing to do with Islam right and
actually the Nation of Islam of course
was started by Elijah Muhammad yeah and
his son wore deen mohammed is practicing
a regular orthodox islam like the rest
of the world and he brought most of the
people with him after the death of
Malcolm X sober but Malcolm X even
before that time in the last couple
years of his life we know he went down
the Hajj to Mecca the pilgrimage to
Mecca and he observed Muslims from all
over the world he also made a tour
through Africa and he learned that you
know like you're talking about how many
different Muslims are in the world how
they come from all countries and he
really his whole idea of course was
lifting up his particular people and
also um you know lifting up the people
of the world and we establishing
brotherhood between the people of the
world you know because America hamdullah
has a lot of it and nom de la just means
thanks be to God it had praise be to God
it has a lot of good characteristics in
it yes but one of his worst problems
from the beginning has been the racism
yeah and the division of people based on
race and stuff like that so Malcolm X he
said that in his experience at Islam the
religion of Islam had made people's you
know because it makes people stop
focusing on they don't have to abandon
their culture or anything i'm still
irish as a muscle is i'm actually
studying the irish language and stuff
but it makes people focus mainly their
role is as a servant of god and all
humanity is a servant of god all
humanity comes from one family at that
so it really unites people in the
Brotherhood to try to work together to
uplift humanity to being servants of God
and being more moral people and more
just people so you went from seeing
Malcolm X's life you
reading about his history and how he
also he left this because islam teaches
unity amongst gods creation that no no
white is different in the black or black
and white no doesn't matter what color
race you come back we're all brothers
from the same thought Adam right right
and we're different how are we different
by piety my righteousness this is how
God justices so Islam clearly
distinguishes now where the Nation of
Islam was calling him towards more of a
particular movement nationalism would
you say yeah Islam has nothing to do
with any of this Islam called to this
Brotherhood which appealed to you yeah
Islam appeal to this Brotherhood in this
relay because you know I mean I've so
most religious people would in some
sense say that we're all children of
Adam but you find among the Muslims that
when you become a Muslim and you study
Islam that Muslims really believe this
and understand this you know literally
that we really are children of Adam you
know it's not just an expression or a
story is the truthful fact and Islam
stresses you know family relations into
kinship relations and even if people you
know like I became Muslim my family is
not all become Muslim under one but you
still keep very good relations i can say
have a better relationship with most of
my family members now than I did before
it was Muslim yeah so it teaches this
real true so increasing in stressing the
importance of family and importance of a
world as being part of your family it's
very important but Malcolm X he said
that people because he you know even
when he was in the nation of islam white
people you know they will be impressed
by certain aspects of him and they ask
how can we help because he was a
national expect any tell them you can't
do anything you know you can't do
anything so but when he realized the
true understanding of Islam when he saw
the Brotherhood of all the Muslims he
started to advise people of all colors
and all races look if you want my advice
to you is to look into Islam learn more
about it fun and that's what that's what
I've seen it work so that's what I did I
went to college at the Paul University
here in Chicago and I went to there was
a small number of Muslims there they had
a Muslim student group I just said you
know I want to learn more about Islam I
want to
and more about Muslims so that's what I
did and then hamdullah it was just you
know a lot of things from their happened
but I became Muslim you know shortly
thereafter while I was at college so you
were in college you were going here in
Chicago to depaul university right a big
big known university and we also heard
that you are turning you're a lawyer
right so yeah I finished DePaul in three
years graduated and went to law school
at Georgetown in Washington DC so and
then I graduated from there and I'm
practicing law right now working for
children who are you know in the foster
care system children who are abused or
neglected by their parents I represent
them in the court system so going from a
life now being raised the Irish Catholic
Christian now what's the difference
between your life then and the present
day reality well I would say that you
know I you know thank God that I had a
family that like that was a you know
they were very good people like many
people here in America the very good
people they taught me good moral values
they told me to be concerned about
people and part of that was you know
having the example of Jesus peace be
upon him as someone who who taught these
kind of values and taught helping the
poor and taught hoping people so always
grew up with these kind of values but
you know I didn't really have something
to attach it to as much as when i came
into islam when i came into the salon i
learned more about Jesus peace be upon
him once I became a Muslim you I knew
before you learn more about Jesus when
you became a Muslim this is probably for
someone to hear this kind of strange
right definitely and then you know I
know some Christians study their
religion in great detail but I don't
think they realize how much in Islam we
practically admired all the prophets
Moses Jesus Abraham and if you look at
the Quran it talks about all those
profits as much or more so than it does
about in probably the moment if we don't
accept Jesus peace be upon them then
you're not a must of course yeah so so
really so really that that it made me
feel a more of the kinship and more of
an understanding other than just immoral
things which are course very important
of what did Jesus really teach what did
Moses teach what did Prophet Muhammad
teach I didn't really have an
understanding that
I became a Muslim and the main thing was
focusing on that there's only one guy
you know we talk about people talk about
being monotheists and having only one
God but they don't really understand
what that means and a part of it of
course comes from in Christianity this
idea of the Trinity is confusing yeah
for me growing up as a Catholic it was
confusing I didn't really understand
what it meant I wouldn't say that I
didn't believe it or did believe it I
wouldn't really understand whatever I
didn't understand what I'm is confusing
yeah so but the idea in Islam that there
is God who created everything which I've
always believed and then there's hey no
but there's only one God but there's
only one God but there's only one God
give thanks to Allah for the moon and
the stars praising more day forward is
and what was