you know faran quite well we'll get to
that part but let's talk about Omar John
have you heard of Omar Johnson I was
raised in one of those Ms you understand
but I had to walk away I just want to
know why you Muslims don't believe in
Jesus reality it was all Islam learn
your Arabic what if I told you there's a
language that activates not just one but
both hemispheres of your brain some of
the recent things statements that I've
heard him make I come directly from the
light of the sun he might be a candidate
for psychological evalu
Lou farahan was not expecting this from
Gino Jennings when why can't you just
love my
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exciting episode for you for you in the
dean show Studio my special guest Imam
Khan former bodyguard to the famous
Muhammad Ali used to be a Christian but
then became a minister in the nation is
he still with the nation no he went on
to do something
incredible so incredible that just not
too long ago he had a reverend Christian
Reverend to came to see him to ask him
about Jesus with a huge
cross so he's going to be sharing that
story because something unbelievable
happened after that meeting so he's is
here with us Imam kasim Khan we're going
to play this video This Is by a former
Muslim who left Islam his name is Dr
Omar Johnson I if you guys have heard of
him we're going to play this video and
then we're going to go ahead and have a
discussion about it and we'll get to
that
story sometime in the video about the
Reverend with the cross and much much
more here on the dean show with my
special guest Imam kasim Khan what's the
movement I was raised in one of those Ms
you understand but I had to walk away
because I saw how we completely ignored
black people's problems we completely
ignored Black Culture we completely
ignored the black reality it was all
Islam learn your Arabic and I'm like I'm
up I'm a practicing Arab I'm not
practicing Islam I'm practicing arabism
why do I got to learn Arab language to
worship God why do I got to eat like the
Arab to worship God why do I got to
dress like the Arab the worship God this
is not the worship of God this is the
deico of Arabic culture and that's why
walked away from it and now African
spirituality is my
Foundation how you doing IM
alhamdulillah it's good to see you again
former minister in the nation former
bodyguard Muhammad Ali I I I I would
like to I would like to um offer he
actually put he he actually didn't like
that tell us that story tell us that
story yeah that's the disclaimer that I
was about to offer I spent some time
personal time with Muhammad Ali we were
friends we weren't buddies he liked me
and I spent a lot of time around him
but I used to tell people I was this
bodyguard because it sounded more you
know it sounded fantastic you know you
know what I mean however he hated that
he hated for me to say that so he
checked me and corrected me but he
waited patiently in front until we got
in front of a lot hundreds of people
we're at a mid in Pittsburgh
PA and now this is for people I know
this is the famous uh American Muslim
Muslim American champ the most yeah mham
Ali the Muhammad Ali the people's champ
and so we're in front of like hundreds
of people out in the street in front of
a Masid in Pittsburgh and uh and people
asked him and I was standing next to him
and they said uh champs this your
bodyguard and I wouldn't let him answer
I interrupted him said yeah I'm his
bodyguard and so he he he used that
opportunity to correct me he said wait
what you talking about he called me Fred
said come on Fred how you going to be my
bodyguard I'm Muhammad Ali I don't need
you he said Allah is My Bodyguard you
just here and so that that check that
corrected me and so I had to eat that
lie that I had been telling people I
spent a lot of time with him though but
I was not his bodyguard oh so you
weren't officially his bodyguard H okay
I was under impression you were
officially his you were one I would I I
my my job was crowd control crowd
control and to escort him and make him
comfortable security yeah so synonymous
bodyguard listen but he didn't like that
no he didn't want me and I was wrong I
admitted I confess I made TBA I was not
Muhammad Ali's bodyguard he hated when I
said that I spent time around him he
with friends he called me on the phone
sometimes but I was not Muhammad Ali's
bodyguard just for the record yes and he
made that clear Allah is his body he
made it clear Subhan Allah yeah there's
a video actually of him talking about
that he's talks about how God Almighty
Allah is his bodyguard yeah well well he
checked me in front of hundreds of
people and I deserved it now before we
also get to faran because there's also a
reverend who's checking farakhan that's
interesting you guys like what are you
talking about yeah we'll get to that
video in a few what's the reverend's
name
um Jennings Jennings Reverend Jennings
you know Jennings and he's actually on
point so you know faran quite well we'll
get to that part but let's talk about
Omar John have you heard of Omar Johnson
I heard of him and I heard about um um
what he what he said and what he
did and and and and I and just for brief
just for a brief uh observation you know
the reasons that I heard that he said he
left Islam um was not really fair to the
majority of the way Islam is practiced
especially in America you know it it's
unfortunate that the particular M that
he was attached to did put uh too much
emphasis on on dress style clothing
style you know and and the reason for
Arabic you know there there's very few
massit very few massag in America that
put emphasis on learning Arabic as a
language no matter what country that you
go to where they're Muslims whether it's
in China Russia uh Japan you know South
Africa it doesn't matter whatever
country you go to the Muslims pray they
offer their their their U formal prayers
their obligatory prayers in Arabic
that's just the way the religion is but
very few Mass put emphasis on learning
Arabic as a language so we have to pray
in Arabic it's good that we learn some
language so that we can understand more
of what we're saying in the prayer you
know as far as dress code the sunna
dress is
Modesty style is up to the
individual so if there's a is if there's
a bastard that encourages people to wear
an Arabic style you know then that then
incorrect I was in Saudi Arabia I was in
Mecca you know I was one of I was one of
the few um um um Muslims in Mecca that
even wore turban in fact the Muslims in
I met in Mecca that wore turban and I
like to wear them often I'm not wearing
one today were weren't even uh weren't
even Arabs they were they were from
Sudan you know so it's a dress style the
style is Modesty as long as you're
modest like right now you're Muslim
dedicated sincere practicing Muslim and
you're not wearing a thob I've never
seen you with a throb a thob on or
jalabia you like the words but but it's
modest it's loose fitting right is and
so this is this is what Islam actually
is so it's unfortunate that the that
that the particular Masid that that um
Mr Dr Omar Johnson attached to gave him
the wrong impression you know the other
thing is our Masid the m that I lead
master ated in Houston
Texas is right in the heart of an
African-American black community with
about 85% African-American and 15%
Hispanic hardly any Caucasians at all so
our our effort our not most of our work
is feeding and clothing and housing and
giving furniture and help and hope to
the African-Americans so we don't we
don't we don't separate oursel from that
culture from their need because they're
undeserved people you know and so and
not that we don't care about other races
but our Masid is there right in the
heart of an underserved Community you
know and so if he had to come to our
Masid where the majority of those who
attend the Masid especially the men
don't wear thobes like me this just
happens to be my personal style I like
it it's my style but does not meant to
represent Islam it represents my
individuality and my personal choice of
how I like to be modest when I practice
so so we may Allah guide him to make him
truly understand but if he was to meet
the right people the right Muslims they
will give him a better View and and it's
unfortunate that he got a bad impression
and I pray Allah guides him yeah that's
why I wanted to uh have you comment on
this because you're someone who's been
around you've been uh a fabric here of a
Muslim in America so you know the
climate you know the culture very well
and and you you've been around a long
time so you're somebody that hopefully
you're not you're not obviously younger
than him he someone that hopefully uh
maybe if you guys ever meet one day he
can come by your mid he's somebody
you're a senior Elder hopefully he can
respect some of the things it's one
thing me and another person who has no
understanding of the African-American
Black Culture or whatnot is talking but
this is somebody that I think you're the
right fit for the job uh actually yes
and and and and and I may respond again
just another quick point about Dr Omar
Johnson I have respect for him though I
have respect because he was actually
searching for religion see you can't you
can't disrespect someone who's searching
for religion he was searching for it and
it just so happened that where he went
in his in his search in his quest to
find the religion of Islam he just ran
into the wrong people that's all but I
respect him because he seems to be
morally conscious I would never impose
myself upon him if I met him somewhere I
wouldn't impose myself upon him and try
to shove my understanding down the
throat I'll let him know I respect him
and I invite him to ask me any questions
that he wanted to ask so that I can
correct whatever thinking that he has it
might be incorrect that's all I mean
this is the the wisdom of the creator
that he uh and you cleared this up that
you gave an example to myself uh what
he's wearing right there if he's Muslim
if he's wearing something that's
obviously uh modest this is the main
thing because the prophet Muhammad he
didn't come to go ahead and uh with with
a new fashion for the people right
there's some guidin how to dress but at
the end of the day I think he he he had
the wrong teacher he had the wrong
totally wrong understanding and he
skipped over the the main fun it's one
thing if he was talking about having an
objection to the main meat and potatoes
of Islam like the Five Pillars the pure
monotheism of Islam worshiping the
Creator alone not his creation
absolutely but he jumped over and
started talking about arabism and all
that are you practicing arabism no we're
not and and let me let me to in defense
of Dr go ah in defense of him I must say
cuz I don't want to criticize him yes at
our mid I've lost track of how many
people came to our Masid Masid Ted on
the Northeast Corridor of Houston and
said they went to other masjids and they
were not comfortable they went to mes
that that that they criticized them
because of what they were wearing they
went to other mes and criticized them
just because the they they they were
reciting the prayer incorrectly you know
and they weren't treated well so they so
so but they didn't stop at that Masid
they searched around so they found a
Masid that was comfortable and they
found Mas of Ted If brother if brother
Omar Johnson had a went around a little
bit more and explored some other massag
then he may have found the Masid similar
to Masid Ted where he would have been
embraced where the majority of the men
who come to our Masid like to wear
t-shirts and dungarees and they're
treated well the the mo majority of the
men who come through our master
come from the prisons and they got
tattoos all over their arms and so forth
they're not criticized you know we help
them we embrace them we give them a
feeling of Hope and welcomeness you know
and that's what he would have
experienced but but he stopped right
with at the experience of one mid he
stopped right there I do believe that
because he's sincere I do believe that
one day he's going to he's going to meet
the T the the Muslims who attend a
Masjid where he was comfortable and and
embrace him and respect him and make him
feel more comfortable with the reality
of Islam so he doesn't get that wrong
impression because that's the only thing
that happened he just didn't look far
enough because isn't as an
African-American if you go deep into the
roots like Muhammad Ali did like Malcolm
X did uh how many of what 30 40% of the
Atlantic trade ships came here they
Muslims they were they kidnapped them
brought them here they were Muslims
weren't they yes and kin you you know
the famous fil I always this example in
the kin field he's saying Allah Allah
he's calling on the Creator he was he
was a Muslim so uh the history of
African-Americans when you go deep isn't
it in Islam yes and the other thing too
it would be impossible to um to really
promote Islam in America uh and ignore
the the plight of the African-Americans
or the black Americans whatever name
that they're comfortable with in America
because because if it wasn't for the da
that is being being given by the
African-Americans in America many of the
people who come here from other
countries would not be as comfortable
living their Islamic life as they as
they are now because because of the work
and the foundation is is not done not
only done then but done but done
continuously even right to this day you
know so you can't ignore that you know
and so uh I I really I really do believe
without beating a dead horse too much
that um Dr Johnson just didn't look far
enough you know but but I believe in his
sincerity you know that he really is is
I think deep down inside he's still
trying to find the reality of what
religion is and what it means to be God
conscious in the worship of the one God
I really believe that and I haven't even
met him yeah uh one more thing I want to
touch upon here is the Arabic language
what if I told you there's a language
that activates not just one but both
hemispheres of your brain a language
that engages creativity logic and memory
all at once
a language so ancient dating back more
than 5,000 years yet so rich that it has
over 12 million words each crafted with
precision and depth but here's the
kicker scientific Studies have shown
that this language doesn't just
communicate ideas it transforms how your
brain works any guesses which language
this might be let's unravel the miracle
behind it groundbreaking study conducted
by the American University of Beirut
revealed something extraordinary about
this language Arabic unlike most
languages that primarily activate the
left hemisphere Arabic activates both
the right Hemisphere and the frontal
lobe why is this significant the left
hemisphere is responsible for logic and
linear thinking which most languages
rely on heavily but arabic's unique
structure its flowing script and complex
patterns requires spatial awareness
creativity and problem solving lighting
up the right hemisphere as well another
study from Germany's Max plank Institute
further confirmed these findings showing
how Arabic readers use more neural
Pathways than those reading in German
now I mean this is out of the wisdom
Allah chose the he could have chose
French he could have chose German but
anybody who really studies the Arabic
language how it encap encapsulates so
much meaning in the words and when you
study it and you realize this is like
how powerful it is like synonyms one
word let's say in English you have uh a
word it can have two three synonyms a
word in Arabic 50 syn synonyms so uh
this is something that's so amazing you
know if he really had scholarship around
him people who can explain these things
I think it's more of a more of a
convincing factor that this is indeed
from the Creator and this is just wisdom
not that you become an Arab now you keep
your culture you keep whatever's good
from it you're I'm still Bosnian you're
still africanamerican you're Italian
whatever from whatever but you don't
turn into Arabic Arabic but like you
were saying you learn it so you can go
ahead if you were if you were if you
were during the time of Jesus Jesus
you've been trying to learn Aramaic
right uh during the time of Moses Hebrew
what are your comments on that I would
like to go back to the Revelation
itself that the re the Quran was
revealed in the Arabic language it's
quranic Arabic it's not even everyday
secular conversational Arabic for
example the word gam uhhuh uh in
everyday language it means tomorrow like
today Saturday tomorrow's Sunday right
but in the quranic language Gan means
any time that has not yet arrived uhhuh
you know and so uh but but we have to
remember I've I've Trav I haven't
traveled all over the world but I've
been about 12 different countries and
each of those countries I've been to um
there are there are Muslims there that
speak and communicate in their native
language but when they're but the
Muslims when it's time to pray all of
them pray in Arabic they don't tell
people you have to learn Chinese you
have to learn J Japanese you have to you
have to you have to learn you know
Swahili you have to learn German they
don't tell people you have to learn the
language they tell them learn learn at
least enough from the of Arabic so that
you can appreciate the prayers better
but no one complains about about about
um praying in Arabic and the other thing
too in the culture of each country the
Muslims in each country that I travel to
they maintain their identity their
cultural identity by wearing the clothes
that they're comfortable with you know
there's very few countries that that
were where where they dress every day in
a thobe like I do it's just my personal
style in in Indonesia they were the the
the the the the Indonesian garments very
few like to just walk around with thobes
on in in Tokyo I've been to Tokyo many
times many many even in some Arab
countries like Kuwait I spent a lot of
time in Kuwait you know and there are
Muslims there that wear regular regular
street clothes t-shirts and hoodies and
all of that you know some like to wear
thbes like me some some save it for when
it's time to pray and some only wear it
during Ramadan you know and so the dress
coat there's only one place in the Quran
where Allah talks about style and he's
not even talking about men Allah says in
the Quran in a very acceptable
translation he said tell your women when
they go abroad abroad doesn't mean
overseas abroad means away from the
house to cover their heads and their
bosoms know that they're known and not
molested he didn't just say cover their
heads and bosoms because if he just
stopped there then a sister could just
wear a baseball cap and in in in in yoga
pants and all of that and Skin Tight
Bloss but he says so that they're known
and not molested so there so when you
see a woman dressed she her her her
clothing is so modest she appears to be
a Pious woman so that's the only place
that style is is indicated in the Quran
you know and so for someone to to it's
really obvious to me you know I never
met Mr Johnson uh it's obvious to me
that he just didn't look far enough for
for that somebody told him that you got
to dress like this to be a Muslim do you
know in our Masid we really ENC embrace
the young especially the young people
come to message some brothers come with
with long dreads in their hair and you
know and they like to they like to wear
hoodies and stuff you know what we
encourage that you know why because that
gives everyone the message that you
don't have to look a certain way to be
Muslim and so if if he would have come
to our Masid he'd he'd still be there
because he would he would have been
embraced if if someone comes immodestly
even when someone comes to our Master
immodestly we have a very diplomatic way
of approaching them we have little card
little greeting cards on our wall that
we that we politely give to a brother if
his pants are sagging too much or if his
shirt's Too Short it says um by the way
um please let allow us to loan you a
thob or a long shirt because part of
your body is exposed when you sit and
and this is it's on a card we don't tell
them you got to get out of here you're
not welcome here because you're not
dressed right and so the diplomacy in
other words when someone is traveling
through life and they're and they're on
a journey to find religion they're still
considered a wayf farer a Wayfare isn't
just a person who's traveling from City
to city they're on a journey through
life and Allah says in the Quran be nice
be kind to the Wayfarers so if somebody
like brother Umar Johnson would have
come to our Masid and so say if he like
to wear t-shirts and all of that stuff
as long if it was
immodest we have to be nice to him be
polite to him and plus how can you
attract someone to the dean of Islam by
giving the impression that you have to
be brittle um brittle and brutal and
harsh and and given a whole bunch of
rules even when you raise your children
you don't ENT you don't make them love
obedience by giving them a whole list of
rules you give them the reason why we
should be obeying God to do what God
says to and that's TAA TAA is total
respect for the presence of God uh
before I go on this will be beneficial
for Omar also inshallah you guys share
this with him this gu of him he's
watching this because we're going to
touch upon now faran who you got a lot
of experience with being a former
minister in the nation of mlam
okay uh so let's pray let's watch this
uh video and hopefully you're watching
too uh Dr Omar because there was going
to be a lot that you probably missed in
your journey and hopefully uh with our
Imam here you can go ahead and uh learn
the correct understanding of Islam so
let's watch this video together Nation
of Islam leader Louie Farrakhan was not
expecting this from Gino Jennings when
he said the title of a prophet is cheap
for him think I'm a prophet it's true
some free just called me a
prophet but I have to tell you the word
Prophet is too cheap a word right I come
directly from the light of the
Sun and so Prophet is not for me I come
to fulfill that which you have read of
your prophets I remember one message
faran preached he said some folk called
me a
prophet he said that's too small of a
title for me imagine
if the title Prophet wasn't too small
for
Jesus for Moses said God shall raise up
a prophet like me Jesus is prophet and
Jesus is Minister and Jesus is Apostle
wow so it looks like uh the Reverend
here he's actually on point
faran has uh
some he's got some major uh mistakes
that he's made over the years I think he
just dug a deeper hole for himself
hopefully God willing you know he can
get out all these holes he's sinking
in what do you think when you see hear
this and the reverend's giving him good
deal he's saying Moses is a prophet and
that's interesting the the rever also
didn't call Jesus God he said Jesus was
identified as a prophet Minister but he
didn't say God that's interesting I have
a very brief response that I don't want
to digress on too much first of all uh
kudos to Gino Jennings very close but no
cigar you know basically you know either
you the Reverend yeah Reverend Gino
Jennings they God guide him close but no
cigar you know I'm not ready to Pat him
on this back and think that that we have
a new um hero uh as far as Minister
faran one of the most
brilliant public oror I've ever met I
studied under him he used to train me in
public speaking we were on the same page
for a while but um but some of the L
some of the recent things statements
that I've heard him make just gives me
the impression that he might be a
candidate for a psychological evaluation
you know wow I just I just I just come
to that conclusion you know I don't I
don't want to criticize him but I think
he is a legitimate psychological
Challenge and I think that um um some of
the people who um look up to him need to
also make make make prayers for themsel
and for him and that's as far as I can
take that because it's too far this last
this last statement was just it was was
too far into the left field the one
right now that he made yeah this one
about he's the profit is too small just
just to make that statement is just it's
it's it's it's not in the lane that I'm
really comfortable driving in because
it's too far it's too far going it's not
even a debatable there'll be some people
there'll be some people from the nation
probably watching this but this should
be a wakeup call for for them now that
you know Allah is sending signs step by
step by step so you see things that are
uh the one thing that always that always
just blew my mind is that when you go
into the temple there you
have
this Indo
Pac what's his name farad
Muhammad and they're pretty much
worshiping this man is a God so if
that's not a wakeup call enough you got
the other thing that are happening but
now you have here him coming out and
saying look I'm that term prophit that's
uh that's too little for me what's he
saying then his title should be I don't
know and I can't second guess him you
know and and and I'm and I can't really
figure out I can't really determine what
what another person's wakeup call should
be some people can wake up easy with an
alarm clock yeah some wake up easy with
with their cell phone ringing some
people wake up easy with a knock on the
door my wakeup call was in 1975 when I
learned that we had not been taught the
True Religion but now it's time to not
to learn the true religion and WD
Muhammad peace be upon him was was going
to show us the right religion that was
my wakeup call right there some people
don't wake up that easy you know a th
maybe about about 200,000 of us did wake
up that easy but there's more you know
and so when you the wakeup call for
those that follow Minister Faron now um
it may not be their wakeup call may
maybe some people need a little bit more
so I can't criticize them or second
guess them nor can I uh expect or
anticipate or um or assume uh what would
wake somebody else up when I wake up a
little bit differently I'm not say I
wake up easier but it's but but I just
wake up a different way and there were
many of us that did wake up you know and
and start following the sunah of prophet
Muhammad peace and blessings of Allah be
upon him you know and and and it's and
it's and it's a shame that here in
2025 that there are people still
confused about the difference between
the Nation of Islam and the sunna Islam
it by now it should be more clear and so
that's why I don't really like to spend
a whole lot of time with that because
it's it's getting more and more obvious
uh for the Layman for the person who
knows nothing about Real Islam
submission to the Creator not the
creation this
Nation confuses a lot of people because
there's still a lot of we understand
that but you have a lot of people who
just start studying religion and they
they attribute um Nation of Islam to
Islam they think okay this is Islam you
have so many people like that create so
much there's so much misconceptions
around it so this is uh good we touch
upon this for a second you had a couple
wakeup calls the guidance came one was
at the first one started when you were
actually a Christian were you a were you
a preacher or or p Pastor in the in the
church also no I wasn't a pastor to I
was we shared the story before but yeah
I was I was being trained you know in
the in the Christian faith to be to be a
a a preacher a minister you're a
preacher in progress yeah work in
progress yeah you know and then you had
a wakeup call and then you shifted over
to the nation just real quick in a
summary version uh what what happened
there why did you switch over from being
a a preacher in progress to um out of
desperation you know most of us who join
the nation of Islam the original Nation
of Islam you know most weren't really
looking for religion we just were
looking for something one that that we
could just call our own and two
something that would Inspire us to clean
up our morals yeah because nothing that
we had cleaned up our morals it was the
Nation of Islam during that time was the
most successful social Reformation Pro
program in the history of the country
there was no 12-step alcoholic program
and none of that psychological stuff
call educated stuff most of us durin the
Nation of Islam we sto drinking and and
smoking and drugs some many in just one
day you know and we were so strict that
that that if that if a Muslim who smoke
wasn't even a Muslim just a regular
cigarette you know and so that and so
that that reformed us almost instantly
so that's what we were looking for
something to call our own so we weren't
thinking religion even though we called
it that we were just thinking something
that we had that that that the
oppressors those that have been been
oppressing the black people um something
that that uh that would uh make them uh
uncomfortable because we we wanted to
make them unhappy a lot of us joined the
Nation of Islam out of spite it wasn't
because we're looking for religion were
you the one that told me that on his
deathbed Elijah Muhammad this is who
they consider a prophet after the last
and final me Muhammad peace and blessing
be upon him that on his deathbed he
renounced all his teachings and then
actually so many people ended up
shifting over that's how Wallace D
Muhammad his son and farakhan for some
time he also made the ship but he went
back yeah that's what I was told I was
told by so I got it from you yeah yeah I
was told by some and I shared it with
you I told I was told by reliable
sources that before Elijah muham passed
away he renounced his teachings and he
then that's when he said his son would
carry his followers into the into the
true religion of Islam mhm yes yeah and
now um are they growing from what you
know you said you not hearing many
people going towards the nation now it's
kind of uh it's losing membership it's
kind of declining is that correct I
don't I don't know if I can effectively
speak towards whether not just losing
membership you know but but um the the
um the growth of Islam in the Sunnah
following Prophet Muhammad sallallahu
alaihi wasallam that's definitely
growing you know and and also we have to
be careful not to overestimate
um the uh the amount of people that are
still confused yeah yes because we can't
overestimate that because it can't that
that amount that number of people that
are confused about the difference can't
possibly be growing because Islam is
growing more and more people are
accepting Islam more people are leaving
the church accepting Islam there there
are people leaving the the the the the
the reincarnation for lack of a better
term of the Nation of Islam coming
becoming a pure Islam you know so Islam
is growing every time the media says
something negative about Muslims Islam
grows more it's thou thousands and
hundreds of thousands of people accepted
Islam after 911 every time something
negative happens in the news more people
um accept Islam Allah Allah knew that
that was going to happen because he says
in the Quran they think they could put
out the light of Islam with their mouths
but they can't the last sorder was
revealed as a complete source with the
Naser Allah said you will see the people
coming to Allah's religion in crowds so
all of that's happening right now in
spite of everything in spite of the
oppression in spite of the mass murders
in spite of the genocide in spite of all
of this deportations in spite of all of
that Islam continues to grow anyway you
know because that's Allah's will you
know and so rather than for me I don't I
don't really like to spend too much time
criticizing those who who aren't
preaching Islam the correct way because
Islam has taking care of itself however
ever when I'm asked the question then I
have to clarify the truth you know that
the the truth is that there's only one
God Muhammad is his messenger peace be
upon him you know and the and the and
and the best guidance is the book of
Islam is the Quran you know and and and
that's real simple it takes care of
itself now that very basic simple
premise people are flooding to Islam at
our M Ted in Houston Texas you know it's
not common for for one or two um new
shahad or or new new people just come to
Islam every single week you know it's
it's not uncommon you know and we're not
we're not uh you know prizing people
we're not trying to shove the religion
down their throat we just treat them
nice you know we're not Reinventing the
will brother Eddie Prophet Muhammad
peace be upon him he promoted Islam with
Community Services he didn't promote
Islam by by fighting he fought when
somebody tried to stop him from from
worshiping you know and when some when
they was taking something away from the
Muslims but but people started coming to
Islam because he he he he fed the hungry
he clothed the naked you know he was
patient with even patient even with his
enemies he had to get a divine
revelation even to fight his enemies
because he didn't like hurting people
and so so the way that we treat people
attracts them to Islam and we don't give
them a whole bunch of rules that's and
just to just to backtrack just a little
bit on Dr Johnson you know anytime that
someone just gives you a whole bunch of
rules hard fast rules instead of
teaching you the beauty of the religion
you know then that then then that would
throw anybody off because everybody
loves fair
treatment that reminds me when you're
talking about patience forbearance that
was one of the qualities you know you
had I believe his name was Zade IB
Sunnah he was a chief Rabbi at the time
and he had you know the yahood they were
there the Jews they were there in Medina
waiting for a prophet to come so he's
one of the main mics you say the rabbis
there and he had looked they're looking
for okay a messenger is coming what are
the signs and he he read into the what
they had left of the scripture
everything he meets all of the signs all
of them except one patience forbearance
when you have power and you're able to
punish but you hold back and forgive so
he gives them a loan and he says okay
pay me back in a certain amount of time
let's say 30 days he comes back after
three days and says where's my money and
he starts offending him and his family
and he starts saying you guys don't pay
your debts and he starts to go ahead and
and make um these statements in front of
all these people humiliating them he
grabs them puts his hands on him can you
imagine that and om wants to step up and
take care of business but then what does
the prophet sallam do he goes and says
go ahead and pay the man and give him
more and then when Omar asks him you
know the story but for those that don't
he tells them hey why'd you do that he
said he fit all the signs there was just
one I needed to test him on and that was
what you were talking about that
patience and
forbearance and now he declared also
this is a rabbi now he declared that
there's nothing worthy of worship ex
said the crater Allah Muhammad is his
messenger this is profound as
alhamdulillah alhamdulillah tell us now
you have an amazing story also you have
your own mid there and you got a
reverend comes in when I open up the
program he comes in he's got a big cross
and he's like he like why don't you guys
believe in Jesus how'd that story go
well it's very interesting and I
mentioned this in my autobiography but
uh and I wish I could read remember his
name but uh when we first opened the
Masid I was at one a department store
picking up some supplies for the Masid
and my wife called me and she said um
there's a preacher here from Dallas
Texas who uh wants to talk to you he has
some questions he wanted to ask you you
know I think he wants to talk about
Jesus so I interrupted my shopping I
went straight back to the Masid and very
very polite gentleman you know he stood
up big Burly guy
big cross around his neck crucifix you
know around his neck U the big STS and
hat and all of that stuff he took off
his hat shook my hand very polite and uh
he and he introduced himself and he said
that uh I just want to know and I'm I'm
going to imitate him because I want you
to I want you to see the scenario of how
these preachers talk because I used to
be one you know he said I just want to
know why you Muslims don't believe in
Jesus
that's the way he said it you know he
said and then he then he went on before
I can answer said yeah why can't you
just love my Jesus and I said uh where
did you get that information from he
said who told you that you know he said
well I just believe I said I tell you
what let's sit down and talk and so uh I
invited him inside the prayer Hall the
Mah he took off his shoes we went inside
we sat down I turned the chair and faced
him I said so tell me um where did you
get this information who told you that
and then I started then my da came in my
question the way I answered him and way
I asked him I said who told you that we
don't believe in Jesus peace be upon
him and then he didn't catch it right
away he said well you know I just heard
y'all don't believe in Jesus I said and
who told you that we don't love and
respect Jesus peace be upon him okay he
still didn't catch it right away he
saidwell I just got of thought because
y'all always talking about Muhammad you
know I said what if I could prove to you
that we love Jesus peace be upon him
more than you do and we respect him more
than you do he said you can't prove that
I said as a Muslim I'm obligated to pray
for him every time I say his name I said
even though the name that I use for him
is
incorrect I know who I'm referring to so
I have to pray for him but you don't do
that he said what do you mean I said you
heard me say Jesus peace be upon him but
you never say that because we're
obligated to pray for him every time we
mention his name you know so then he
start relaxing just a little bit and so
while I had him relaxed it was like
Muhammad Al doing a ROP a doe you know I
I I I I kept the pressure on so I said
ask you a question I said you say he's
God's son right yes I know because the
Bible said okay okay okay I get that I
said let me ask you a question what do
you call a female child he said a
daughter I said what do you call the
male child he said a son I said do you
believe in the Beatitudes in the Bible
he said of course for people don't know
what Beatitudes Beatitudes Beatitudes is
a list of injunctions given by Jesus say
peace be upon him that they were not
corrupted by King James it's still there
yeah so I said one of the Beatitudes in
the Bible says that Jesus peace be upon
him said blessed are the peacemakers for
they shall be called the children of God
how do you hear Muslims uh address each
other and greet each other he said you
say something like Salam alaykum or
something like that I said okay you're
trying that's a nice effort assalamu
alayum I said ' whatat does that that
means peace be upon you that means that
I'm trying to make peace I'm trying to
exhort peace I said ' didn't you just
admit that in the Bible Jesus peace be
upon him said blessed are the
peacemakers they should be called the
children of God am I am not a male and
I'm a Child of God that means I'm a son
too you started relaxing a little bit
more you know I said now what is the
most popular prayer among the Christians
the most number one popular prayer among
Christians he said the Lord's Prayer I
said what's the very first word in the
Lord's Prayer he said our I said that's
plural Our Father yeah Our Father Who
Art in Heaven he didn't say my father
you know and so and and so then he
started relaxing a little bit more now
this was only after about 15 minutes
after about 20 minutes then I said to
him I I said let me ask you a question I
said I said do you eat pork he said yeah
I said but this against Leviticus said
11th chapter the 7th verse he said but
that's an old Mosaic law that God did
away with I said but and Jesus did away
with I said wait a
minute in Matthew 5:17 it's reported
that Jesus peace be upon him said that
think not that I came to destroy the law
or the prophets but I came to fulfill so
he didn't change that you know but you
still do it right so then we started
relaxing a little bit more I said but
just just you just tell me does that
make sense to you you know I said now
the now in in in Judaism the the focal
point is Moses and the and the preferred
language that they pray in is a language
that Mo Moses peace be upon Him prayed
in which is Hebrew right in Islam the
focal point is Muhammad peace be upon
him and the language of the Muslims pray
in is uh Arabic I said Jesus peace be
upon on him spoke
Aramaic I said and the language he
prayed in was Aramaic why don't the
Christians pray in Aramaic he got he
relaxed a little bit more I said I'm
just trying to show you what's there how
can you say that we don't love and we
don't respect Jesus peace be upon as a
matter of fact even the name that he
wore I said I would respect you if I if
I dress you by the name that your mother
gave you I said but you don't have any
evidence that Jesus is the name name
that his mother gave him because when he
was born and his mother spoke Aramaic
and which is which is just between uh uh
uh Arabic and and Hebrew that that the
letter J hadn't even been invented yet
didn't exist it didn't exist the name
Jesus they never heard that word he said
they said are you in love with the man
are you in love with the name I said if
I went to court and so you I want to
change my name to Esau you wouldn't have
a problem with it if if I want to change
my name to Yeshua you wouldn't have a
problem with it if I want to change my
name to Jesus it would be okay with you
but if I say I want to call myself Jesus
you say that's the lord's name he he
jerked he said yeah I said but but all
of those name mean the same thing I said
you're in love with the name you're
fascinated by the name you're following
that name that didn't even exist but
what about the example of the person
yeah how about the example of the person
that you claim you follow that's I said
now around your neck you have a cross
why do you wear that cross because it
reminds me that that that's how my
savior died and I want to be reminded of
how he died I said let me ask you a
question by this time 25 minutes that
went by I said suppose he would have
died in an electric chair would you hang
an electric chair around your neck
suppose he got um mauled to death by a
pit bull would you hang a pit bull
around your neck no but he you think he
died on a cross no you want to remember
how he died but the person hanging on
the cross isn't even Jesus peace be upon
him that was one that was the the last
miracle that God gave Jesus peace be
upon him before he took him away because
everybody every Christian knows who went
to theology the theological seminaries
knows that there was a man who was a
companion of Jesus feace apart him who
betrayed him his name was Judas ESC
scariot and he's the one that told
pontious pilot bodyguards where Jesus
peace be upon and was hiding
and so God to protect Jesus peace be
upon him he reversed he made Judas look
like him because you asked me this
question if you really believe Reverend
I forget his name forgive me that that
Jesus son was God's son why would a man
allow his son if he had all of this
power over the heavens and the Earth why
would a man allow his son to 33 years
old to hang naked in front of people and
be ridiculed like that it wasn't it
wasn't Jesus peace be upon him even
though he wasn't God's son it was Judas
es scariot hanging there on the cross
that's who's hanging around your neck
it's not it's not an image of Jesus
peace be upon Him by this time he was
sweating and he started fidgeting in his
seat you know I wasn't trying to
embarrass or make him feel bad it was no
crowd there there was just me and him in
the mased alone and I told him I said
think about it now think about it you
know what do you think I said you
believe coming back so do we but what do
you think he's going to do when he comes
back you think Jesus peace be upon Him
is going to come back and singing the
choir he's going to come back and and
and and thank you for having an image of
a of a man dying on a cross up in the
church where you worship he's going to
come back to S the record straight and
he's going to ask you the questions that
I want you to ask yourself right now
he's going to ask you who told you to
worship me and my mother where'd you get
that from because he has to answer to
God and you got to answer that question
who told you to do that you know where
did you get that from it wasn't me you
got to answer that you know and so by
this time he start shaking and he said
he took his cross off his neck he he
already had his hat off he took his
cross off his neck and laid it down on
his
knee and said how do I be one of y'all
that's how he said it yeah how do I be
one of y'all I said what do you mean he
said I need need to be a Muslim too cuz
what you said making sense I said all
you have to do is repeat what I'm saying
right now do you really believe this is
just one God right right you don't have
to say Allah you can just you believe it
there one do you believe that Muhammad
is the last Messenger right of God the
one who teaches us how to worship God
right he said yes I said then repeat
this after me he repeated Shain in
English I said now I'm going to teach
you a little bit of Arabic and I taught
him how to say it in Arabic shedin lie
and so forth right and then and then he
said he said I need to go back to my
church in Dallas and apologize to my
congregation for lying to them that's
what he said he said now now this name
that I got I wish I could remember his
name and he said he said do do I do
should I have a Muslim name I said you
can wear whatever name you want see
you're descendants of slaves so you can
pick your old name he said well how do
you say minister in Arabic I said that
would be like wazir that means a
minister or a preacher he said okay then
can I also name myself s after Muhammad
I said yeah he said from there on I want
my name to be Muhammad wazir after he
took shahada he stood up he cried he
start coming to the master two or three
times a week you know he had a foot
problem and and I don't think he had
Transportation so after a couple of
months we didn't see him anymore he must
have went back to Dallas or something
but but but the point is that's how easy
Islam is you don't have to beat people
up just ask them questions that make
them think that's profound now so he
came in big cross and his mind is filled
with uh misconceptions that Muslims
don't believe in Jesus and probably all
the other stuff that uh the hate
industry the islamophobic industry uh
spread out there of misinformation but
now look how important it is that he
connected with a Muslim he came to a
mosque and this we invite people go to a
mosque connect with Muslim
if you're in the Houston area come to
your mosque and read for yourself pick
up the Quran we actually give one for
free uh at the Deans show.com
and learn for yourself we touched upon
the beginning Dr Omar also he can come
visit you down there yeah yeah and uh
hopefully farakhan he's still alive he
can uh go ahead and um reconnect
reconnect with you there's a different
parallel U Minister Fara is not going to
come to me you know it's no dis would
you take accept the invitation someone's
going to get this to him would you
accept the invitation to go see him yeah
but he's not going to invite me to go
see him you know there's there's there's
too many variables there too it it's
more realistic for Dr Omar Johnson to
come because I would invite him to come
and just ask him and I wouldn't try to
tell him anything yeah I said just ask
me just just just ask me some questions
let's talk ask me ask me some questions
about what you went through when you
went to a musos and they gave you all of
these bad imp Impressions ask me does it
matter what you wear ask me does it
matter what language you speak ask me
does it matter what culture you're
comfortable with ask me in this Masjid
where everybody you know what people
brother Eddie people are treating Masid
Ted the way people of other countries
treat America it's becoming a Melting
Pot where people come here looking for
opportunities to express themselves and
feel comfortable to feel embraced they
feel welcome that's why that's why
that's why um the people come to a
Master T heed is not because they like
to hear me talk and because it's neat
and clean that helps but but but if
you're if you're treated well and you
get the best impression you know
alhamdulillah you know and so anybody
who comes there the the the I respected
this this this Baptist preacher I
respected him because he didn't come
looking for a fight he wanted to get an
understanding he really wanted to know
why we don't respect why we don't
respect and love and believe in Jesus he
really want to know so I would respect
Dr Johnson Umar Johnson because I really
believe he if he was to come to the
Masid he wouldn't I don't believe he'd
come looking for a fight I think he'd
become to ask a question he said he said
why why does it matter what I wear does
it matter how I talk does it matter what
food I like you know there's some food
that Muslims in some Muslim countries I
don't even like to eat you know I don't
like all Pakistani food and this is
that's a very strong Islamic country you
know uh uh I don't like all of their
food I don't like all all um uh um
Arab food I don't like yogurt and stuff
you know I mean come on you know I like
what I like spaghetti and stuff you know
beans and rice you know so I'm saying
don't don't don't don't stop the search
because one because one place you went
doesn't have what you're looking for you
don't even shop like that when you go to
the supermarket if you don't find what
you want in one store then you go to
another store you know so he was
mistreated or got a bad impression he
stopped there you know but they could
work to his Advantage because now maybe
he he he might he might get get curious
and and and find out especially if he
watches this show maybe I need to look
around a little bit further I'm not
going to try to I wouldn't try to
interrupt his quest for AF afro afro
sensity how do you pronounce that
afrocentrism
Afrocentric yes I wouldn't try to
interrupt that because it's good history
what happened to the to the North
Atlantic slave trade and what how they
treated our sles and what happened in
Africa and and all of that stuff and the
and the white man who was lynching the
black people and all that's nice history
to know because we don't need to be
ignorant of it you know what happened to
Emit and all of that kind of stuff you
know and and and somebody likes Quanza
and and red black and green okay you can
have all of that you know but but then
don't lose your your your identity your
Islamic identity knowing that you have
to believe in the one God pray to him in
the language he wants us to pray in
follow the prophet peace be upon him in
the way he wants us to follow him but
but maintain your personal identity you
know and that's what I respect and he
would have got respected if he had came
to the right Master here I can see him
saying this is just a good guest that he
say look um being a Muslim do you feel
or I would ask you do you feel less
black I'm holding on to my identity I'm
black I'm not Arab so he's confusing
he's conflating the two now he's missing
it out but are you less black because
you're Muslim no I'm not I'm not black
I'm not less black and I'm not more
black you know it's just skin it's only
skin it's just a coat that that covers
the body that Allah gave can it get to a
point where he's worshiping this in a in
a sense now he's going down this path
now and now he's like okay nationalism
you know that he's like his identity
that's good hold your identity okay
you're black this person is from this uh
um nationality whatever ever or or race
or whatever the case okay that's good
but the famous Hadith where the Prophet
Muhammad peace and blessed be upon him
who said you know can you share it with
us there's no difference between the
White and the black the Arab and the
non-arab that Islam like Malcolm said
that if when he went to Hajj and he sent
the letter you know the famous letter he
said Islam is the the cure for the race
problem is he actually adding to this
it's a possibility let me look at this
you and I have been friends for about 20
years it just passed like that huh
you're you're my brother we've prayed
together we worshiped together we sat in
cried together you're my brother but you
ain't my people you know you're not my
people my people are the ones that have
experience similar to mine yeah my
people are the ones that are descendants
of slave slave owners you know and
slaves my my descendants are people who
have a history of being abused and
tortured and raped and ridiculed you
know and religion taken th those are my
people I can identify with their
struggle I can identify with their
hesitancy it makes it easy for me to
give da to them because I can identify
with what they're going through so
socially and and and psychologically I
can identify with that you and me your
your your your ancestors may have had a
struggle too but it wasn't the same type
of struggle that I had but as Muslims
now we lay all that aside We Stand foot
to foot and shoulder toos shoulder and
pray together to Allah we can sit and
open the Quran and read Arabic together
from the Quran together we Muslims we
worship but then but when there's when
there's a a Civic concern a community
concern to deal with the deal with the
oppressed then there's a certain way
that I can relate to the
African-American experience that you
wouldn't understand you know because you
don't because you didn't go through the
blood of the slave masters and the
slaves even some of the slave masters
cuz they mess with my great grandma you
know it runs through my veins so I can
feel it I can feel it when I see them
when I see a brother on the street
begging for a dollar you know I don't
criticize him because he don't have a
job and call him and call him lazy I
said he doesn't realize that his
ancestors were Kings and if he just
doesn't give up and do something for
himself if and I can show him that
there's there's a promise for you and
there's a hope for you and and and I
know how to relate to you to make you
try a little bit harder because in
America you can have what you want if
you're willing to work hard enough but
don't give up and throw in the towel and
and blame somebody else for your for
your lack of progress I can say that to
them because they can understand it
coming from me you know and so but
that's not the same as religion you know
we have to be careful what we find
ourselves worshiping we could we could
and some Muslims even worship the
religion instead of worshiping God
that's called bid because they begin to
worship the the the the the the the
rituals you know they start doing things
that don't have anything to do with it w
with God himself you know that's that's
what some Muslim do they go overboard
and some people outside of Islam they
worship black nationalism they worship
the culture some worship the culture
that's what I was talking about some
some marriages get messed up because the
parents worship a culture instead of
worshiping Allah yeah and they put that
ahead of the Islamic practice that that
makes us closer to God yeah thank you
thank you it's good spending some time
with you thank you for spending this
message uh for Dr Omar hopefully he gets
this and uh he comes visits uh and this
is a a big lesson for any Christian out
there anybody who has these misconcept
you cleared it up we have a deep love
and you proved that we love Jesus more
story peace be upon them yes yes
excellent thank you very much may bless
you bless you brother
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