Amid growing concerns about violence
against Christians,
recent upsurge in spitting and hitting
attacks on clergy, and the vandalism of
Christian sites,
readings of peace. I have an extremely
important question to ask a certain
group of Christians.
Should Christians support the state of
Israel?
In the first five minutes, he was spat
at five times.
And before I do, I need every Christian
to watch this.
together.
Shalom. Shalom.
Okay, you watched that, by the way, on
your own time. You can watch. There are
many more videos like this. Now, let's
do one more clip. It's of a Christian
pastor. Then I'm going to bring out my
Christian guest.
Israel should make the Gaza Strip a
parking lot by this time next week.
Destroy the whole thing.
I'm sick of all these Christians saying
we ought to have peace with Islam. Islam
is a satanic death cult and they would
cut your head off before I said amen in
this sermon if they had a chance to. All
right. So, I want you guys to remember
those clips because my questions are
going to revolve around those clips with
my next guest Allison Weir. She's from
If Americans, remember this website, if
Americans only knew. She independently
traveled throughout the West Bank, the
Gaza Strip. Mrs. Weir found the
situation largely the reverse of what
was being reported by the American
media. Upon further examination of the
issues at hand, she read dozens of books
on the topic. She found that the US
press portrayal was significantly
significantly at odds with information
being reported by the mainstream media
throughout the rest of the world. So
without further ado, let's bring out our
special guest Allison Weir.
I love you very much that you're doing.
When I was ready to talk about it, I
would only talk to I was explaining how
much respect I have for the faith of
Islam.
Hello, Allison. How are you?
I'm good, thank you. How are you?
Good. Good. Thank you for coming back on
the program. It's good to see you. Good
to have you with us.
Thank you.
All right. I'm going to open up with
this question. Allison,
to us Muslims, this seems like a very
strange relationship. On one end, you
have Christians being spit at, told to
go back home. On the other end, you have
Christian pastors who are supposed to be
preaching peace, love, mercy,
forgiveness, Jesus, the Prince of Peace,
turn the other cheek, love your
neighbor, but instead they are
supporting the killing of babies.
They're encouraging their congregations
to basically throw away their money in
supporting this. It's ve it's a very
strange relationship. If you can help us
understand the rationale, the logic
behind this.
I'd be glad to. Um
largely there are a number of things
that are behind it. You know, I've been
working on this issue for 20 years now
after I traveled over to the West Bank
in Gaza in early 2001 as a freelance
reporter and saw for myself what was
going on. Um, I wasn't on some con tour
conducted by Palestinians or by
Israelis. Most Christians that go over
there um go on tours conducted by by
Israel. So, they're shown certain things
and not shown other things. It's very
important to go independently.
Many Christians have. So others besides
me have actually also seen what's going
on. But most of us don't have the
ability to do that. And so most people
in the United States on all the issues
that are important in our country rely
on the US media for our information
and think we know what's going on from
that information.
Uh, I think many of us know if we're
liberals, we don't trust the
conservative media. If we're
conservative media, we don't trust the
liberal media. Most of us don't know
that neither type of media is reliable
on the issue of Israel Palestine. That
there's a great deal mainly of omission
and exaggeration.
So for example, the recent um attacks on
Israel on October 7th, I believe it was
that got so much attention. Um mainly
Americans, we got the Israeli narrative.
The US journalists over there were shown
around by Israeli forces, by the Israeli
military. They um received briefings by
the Israeli military spokesperson.
And there were a lot of exaggerations
made at the beginning and since that
have since proven to be false, but most
some of them were retracted later, but
most people don't know they were
retracted. So that that pastor that we
just saw in his congregation, no doubt,
believed that Hamas had beheaded babies.
This is completely untrue. Anybody that
looks into it independently sees that
that accusation has withdrawn. Um they
withdrew that they were beheaded but
they said dozens of babies were killed.
No, that's another thing that was false.
Um so there are atrocity stories as we
know from previous wars. World War I,
the Huns were eating um you know babies
supposedly and you know there each war
has its own propaganda and Israel has a
great deal of propaganda about what it
does all the time and unfortunately the
media often just transcribe that
propaganda as though it's news.
So a lot of people are being misled
about what's going on and it's not just
about October 7th. This is successful
because it goes on
top of years and years of misinformation
from the US media on this issue. Now and
then there are very good articles, but
quite often even the articles that seem
like they're balanced and neutral and um
objective almost always have pro-Israel
spin in them when you actually know what
went on. And some articles, many many
reports are far worse than that. They're
exaggerating the Israeli claims and
they're omitting major facts. So
Americans don't know what's going on.
For example, they don't know that
Palestinians in Gaza, the Gazins, men,
women, and children, over 2 million of
them are living in largely a prison.
There are only a few exits and entrances
to Gaza. I think it's about two or
three. I've been in gone through two of
them myself. These are closed off by
armed guards.
This is what it's like if you wanted to
leave, you know, Michigan or Arkansas or
California or, you know, and there are
armed guards around where you left. you
could only leave certain places because
there's a fortified barrier around Gaza
that was built beginning in about 1991
and become more and more fortified over
the years. So, you cannot get out unless
Israeli armed guards let you out. You
have to get special permission from
Israel to leave your own land. They
usually don't give it. And even to get
back in, you have to get permission to
get back in. It's a prison to the extent
that Americans have no idea. And within
that prison, people have been deprived
of sufficient food. For for a long time,
um they've been deprived of a lot of
important building materials. Often
medical supplies can't get in. There was
a time probably of course now but even
before the recent actions there were
insufficient um
uh life-saving medicines were not
available because they weren't allowed
in. So the desperation for those 2
million people inside that prison has
been growing over the years.
Also, people need to know that about 80
70 to 80% probably 80% of the people
living in Gaza, those families in Gaza
are people that were pushed out by
Israel in 1948 and 49 that were
originally from what we now call Israel.
um their land, their homes, their
businesses were all stolen and they were
forced out of there and most most of
them they went up different places but a
great many of them ended up in Gaza. So
now the Gazin population are people who
are living quite often in poverty
because of this a blockade from Israel
that's been going on um over 17 years.
They're living in poverty because of
Israeli actions. They're living in a
prison because Israel is keeping them
there. And and yet they were prosperous
originally. You know, people my age.
When I was born, there wasn't any
Israel. There was Palestine. The war of
uh its founding war, which was very
brutal,
took it over and named it Israel. So the
people in Gaza
are living under conditions no American
could tolerate either. But Americans
don't know that. American Christians,
most of them unless they've studied this
independently and gone there
independently and researched it for
themselves, don't know any of these
facts. They just get the facts that
Israel puts out and our US media just
echo and repeat too often.
Mhm.
I think that's one of the major factors.
They um then the other thing is that
there is a theology that began called
it's often called dispensationalism.
There's a type of theology that was
dispensational dispensationalism.
Yes. Most of us
Okay. Yes.
You know have never heard of when I was
growing up. Nobody ever I was in a
military family. So I had moved around a
lot. I attended churches in a number of
different states and sometimes on
military bases and I never even heard
this dispensationalism.
It was developed in the late in the um
mid to late 1800s by a a sort of obscure
sect within England, the Brethren, it
was called something like that. Um
the Plymouth Brethren.
Plymouth Brethren. Very few, you know,
you know about it, but most Americans
don't know about it. So I didn't know
about it till I studied it and re you
know thought where did this come from?
What came from an obscure sect you know
there are ones like that around today
that have different theologies that you
know don't have many adherence but but
they're around.
This one wouldn't have been very
widespread except it was taken up by a
man named Cyrus Scoffield who was a
pastor in I believe it was Texas.
Um a very sketchy man. He was he had
abandoned his wife and children. I
believe he was even in prison for a
while for um
yes
some
scams that he was running.
But he grew to be influential and he
wrote a book called the annotated
Scoffield B Reference Bible that
has been what began to be used in a lot
of Bible colleges and in different many
people apparently have that Bible. I
have a copy of it somewhere. I never had
seen it before but that became very
influential. Now the thing that's
interest so that's largely what really
spread this dispensationism.
What's interesting is that the Bible was
published by the Oxford University Press
which is not the usual place where a
Texas preacher would be able to get his
Bible you know his um his own annotated
Bible published. So his his biographer
named Mr. Canfield, I've forgotten his
first name. If you read the biography,
which everybody should, of Cyrus
Scoffield, you find out all these things
that I'm saying, but you also find out
that the biographer writes that it seems
likely somebody else was behind Scofield
funding him and giving him the access to
people and places he would not have had
otherwise.
The biographer notes that he was a
member of a Manhattan literary club. Now
again, is this where you know a
Christian minister especially
evangelical minister would be a member
of a Manhattan literary club? But he was
he was also at that time was a man named
Samuel Unterm who was a very powerful um
Jewish attorney in Manhattan. I think he
was the first people to receive a, you
know, $1 million award at a time and
that's probably worth $10 million today,
maybe more. And he was a fervent Israel
partisan working very hard to create the
state of Israel, which did not exist
yet. This was in the very early 1900s.
But he was part of this movement that
most of us had never heard of, political
Zionism that was very active in the in
Europe and in the United States, not in
the region. Um, the Jewish people that
were living in Palestine at that time
were actually opposed to this political
Zionism, but Samuel Intermer was
a powerful part of the movement. He was
in that literary club at the same time
that Scofield was. And people, the
biographer suggests, and to me this
makes a great deal of sense, that it was
Under Meyer and his wealth that opened
doors for for Scoffield to produce a
Bible that was very useful for the
Zionist project of taking over Palestine
to creating to create a Jewish state.
Wow. This is um
I'm excuse me.
I was just going to mention at the time
that it was published, there were a
number of very uh reputable and
respected
theologians at the time. I think uh
evangelical theologians who were who
um wrote books uh exposing the fact that
that this reference Bible was just not
accurate that it had misinformation in
it that was not to be trusted. So this
was written at the time but when as we
all know in this world if you have lots
of money you can push your message.
Um, there are evangelical fundamentalist
Christians who have been very supportive
of the Palestinian cause for many
decades, but they didn't get a jet plane
given to them as Jerry Fwell was so that
he could go around saying what Israel
wanted him to say. And somebody like Ted
Price who was one of the I think he and
his father were behind the National
Prayer Day doesn't have a jet plane and
people never hear from him.
So
I think this is um answering the
question what you just broke down. I
asked the question also I had a pastor
on pastor um a senior pastor he's been
around for a long time pastor Rick and
he pretty much went over in detail how
this pre this dis dispensationalism
which is pretty much Zion Zionism
packaged into Christian creed
and he went over the similar things
you're talking about so now it helps us
understand where Many Christians are
torn between seeing babies just being
decapitated and bombs falling on
innocent human beings and now why would
they align with this? that they think
because as pastor Rick was telling me
and we're understanding from you also
this is they've been indoctrinated
through this con person Scullfield in
this Bible that was funded by this
certain ideology in there that now
connects certain verses of the Bible to
this modern state of Israel and from
there they made it a part of the
Christian creed that Christians feel
this is a part of their theology Some
Christians they're sinful.
Some Christians.
Some Christians. Yes. Absolutely. Yes.
Some Christians feel that this is a part
of their creed. Is that correct? They're
sinful.
So I think this is very important that
we unpackage this so Christians can see
this is not a part of their creed. This
is fake.
They're trying to push. There's some
prophecies also that revolve around this
that they're trying to come uh to
fulfill. Is this correct?
That's right. There's
then when I asked Pat
there are certain
if you can talk about that
certain Christian you know scriptures
that they're trying to emphasize and
incorrectly interpret and ignore all the
rest of the New Testament. It's sort of
you know it's it's very it's laughable
except it's very dangerous and very sad
and causing major destruction not only
tragedy in Israel Palestine but it is
causing great damage to our own country.
I have eight grandchildren and I I feel
they're exposed to um risk by what
Israel is doing and the fact that our
government is funding it. Um but getting
back to this theology just to mention
also so you know this was the root of
it. It still goes on that that so-called
reference Bible keeps being republished
every few years and actually gets worse
and worse interestingly.
And then also on top of that you have a
group called supposedly Christians
United for Israel Kufi.
Yes.
And Pastor Hegy that promote this you
know very very to me anti-Christian very
pro-Israel with a large congregation of
probably very decent people who are
being misled and don't know just to give
a little bit of the background.
A lot all of this is on our website if
Americans knew but
for example they don't mention that the
person who really founded Christians
United for Israel who was the executive
director for many years of that
organization was a man named David Brog
who was as a Jewish attorney who
practiced law in Tel Aviv
um and who has
been major the the major force behind
supposedly Christians United for Israel.
The current exe executive director is
listed in Israel as the 50 most
influential Jews in the world. This is
behind Kufi. Um the action director is
another is an Israeli citizen. So you
know people need to look into things
more closely and see who's really
pulling the strings behind the scenes.
I think many people are scared to look
into things because they're scared to be
labeled. They're scared um being
cancelled.
But we've had rabbis on. We've had
Christians. We've had people
good-hearted people who who don't agree
with this and they're speaking out and
more people are beginning to speak out
because Christians don't want this to
represent them and their faith. And now
I think it's even more important when
they see this is not a credo thing. This
they're not sinful for not supporting
this. Like there's verses in the Bible
and this is what p the the Christians
that I spoke to uh including the pastor.
You could tell me what what would you
agree that these verses for example
whoever blesses D will be blessed.
Whoever curses D will be cursed. You'll
see politicians and others who will hold
a flag and and quote this verse and
they'll connect this to the state. And
when I asked the I asked the pastor, he
says, "No, this is bogus. This is not
correct."
Uh
that's right.
What would you say?
It's not It's
Have you Are you familiar? Are you
familiar with the verse? That's This is
like the bread and butter.
Yes. Yes. I I've looked into it. Um
first of all, it's often really not
translated correctly. It's not referring
to the modern state of Israel. Um it's
talking to the you know many people that
feel that the old testament there was a
you know there was a new testament these
Christians need to remember that there
was a new testament and in that
testament um it was a it taught very
differently than what's in the old
testament and that with the coming of
that the chosen people became all people
not just one particular ethnic group.
So, you know, just read the New
Testament for yourself and what it
taught. And that pretty much refutes
taking a few a few little pieces of it
out of context.
Um I found that's interesting is that
even people that were brought up with
that I you know clearly
um misunderstood theology when they go
and see in person what's going on when
they re meet Palestinians both
Palestinian Muslims and Palestinian
Christians that's another thing that the
media largely prevent Americans from
knowing is that many Palestinians are
Christians that they've lived you know
they live side by side with Muslim
neighbors and colleagues colleagues and
co-workers have done this for many
years. There are Christians in Gaza
itself. Israel, you know, in its failing
recently damaged at least two Christian
churches in Gaza. One of them the one of
the most ancient Christians in Christian
churches in the world was damaged by
Israeli shelling.
So, you know,
you can you know
that's that's a very important point
what you just said. There are also
Christians there who are being
persecuted and oppressed. What is it
like 10% or more are Christians,
Palestinian Christians?
It's a small number. They keep fleeing
because of Israel.
So that um
the it's you know Bethlehem has been
closed off by by Israel for many years.
There are incursions into Israel into
Bethlehem itself where people are beaten
frequently. Um, young people, young men
especially, are abducted. This goes on
in Bethlehem. If you go to our website
and see some of our reports every day,
there are Christian sites that are
damaged and invaded by Israeli forces
frequently. Frequently
and it's documented. If you're there,
you can see them firsthand.
Um, just people are
When I showed when I Go ahead, finish
your thought. What were you going to
say?
Oh, that's fine.
When I opened up the program, I wanted
to strike an image that people can
understand like because if you have
there you have the people who are
supporting like this pastor also in the
second clip supporting this and then he
would be someone who'd go down there and
he would also be we have uh undercover
reports where people would dress up as a
priest and be spit at like five times
and Recently, Israeli Channel 13
reporter Yosi Ellie went undercover as a
priest for a day. Dressed in a robe, he
walked through the old city with
Franciscan Father Alberto. In the first
5 minutes, he was spat at five times by
Orthodox Jewish Israelis.
Christian citizens feel attacked in
their places of prayer, in their
cemeteries, and on the streets.
Christians in Jerusalem's old city say
they are often harassed, spit on, and
even physically attacked by religious
Jewish youth.
That's the ironic thing how you can go
ahead and support something like this,
but then there's a great disrespect
happening like is showing in this clip
towards not only the Palestinian
Christians down there, but even
evangelical Christians who have visited.
Um, that's right. Is this something that
you've seen?
Evangelical Christians have been strip
searched, you know, by Israeli um
guards. They're, you know, there, you
know, often they're treated quite well
because they want to propagandize them,
but, you know, not always. They get
strip searched. Um they get there, you
know, there's a they get spat upon.
That's not rare. There's um a certain
aspects of Judaism to be to be truthful
are very anti-Christian.
I'm not saying all Israelis are. Most
Israelis I think probably are not. We
give them over $10 million a day. So,
but um there are shows on Israeli TV in,
you know, mainstream Israeli TV making
fun of Jesus in really very offensive
ways. Those are, you know, you can I
think we've put some clips on. So that
there's been um Christian churches
making fun of making fun of making fun
of Jesus.
Jesus Christ. Yes. Of Mary.
Peace be upon
um really grotesque
shows just you know laughing at them and
dressing people up in weird ways. So
that's the strange relationship that I
if you can help us understand and I
guess you did with the explanation of
the Scoffield Bible this con artist who
put this together and then who it was
funded by. So I guess would you say that
this would be the reason and then these
pastors who are promoting this according
to this and they're funded by this that
now they've been fooled and they've been
indoctrinated with this false belief
that this is a part of their
this kind of information is is just not
available to people. They have no idea
this is going on. Um
that's a major part of it. You know
people are being manipulated.
What would you say to our Christian
friends and neighbors and others who are
listening to you as a as a Christian
now? What advice would you give them who
they they feel strongly this is you know
you hear rapture I I I spoke to the
pastor about this also uh he said we we
believe in Jesus's return like we do as
Muslims but they push this that he'll
return twice this is not a biblical
teaching he said and and much of this
this this rapture um theology if you
want to comment on that he said also
this is something that's made up and a
lot of people believe this what advice
would you give to them
well to yeah you know to look into it
more fully to go to, you know, more more
theologians. I'm not one, so I'm not
going to pretend that I am. Yeah.
But I think there's a lot of when you
want to find the truth, when you want to
find the truth in this day and age, you
can. It's there. And there um I mean,
what's interesting is that many
denominations now have made statements
in support of Palestinian rights because
they know the facts about what's going
on in Palestine. They've traveled there
independently. They've met with
Palestinian Christians and Muslims.
They've seen firsthand what's done.
Sometimes there there have been non I
think Americans again don't know that
there have been nonviolent
demonstrations.
Virtually every week, sometimes two or
three a week for many years, often in in
small villages by, you know, just normal
people whose lands are being taken by by
Israel. I've seen them. I've been in
them. And the Israeli military comes
along and beats people and know uh meets
them with violence. These are unarmed
villagers that are beaten and nobody
ever, you know, they do this. It's very
courageous because in a number of cases,
people are shot. Sometimes they're
killed. A few have been Americans who've
been killed or maimed, but of course,
most of them are Palestinians. And the
the the power of nonviolence, for
example, with Gandhi, with Martin Luther
King,
is that people see it. They see people
nonviolently
trying to demonstrate for their rights
or against injustice.
And that's the power. Then when they're
met with violence and people see it,
they are horrified. Well, Palestinians
have been doing this for years years
under great risk that they will be
injured, maimed, killed, and yet they
still do it. But the American public,
which is funding Israel, doesn't see it.
Fox News doesn't ever cover it. CNN
rarely if ever covers it. MSNBC doesn't
cover it. So NPR doesn't cover it. So
this has been going on for for years.
And then finally in 2000 in 2018 the
people in Gaza in this prison decided
that they would try a huge huge Gandhian
non-violent march called the great march
of return. Thousands of people came
together every week
near the the barrier imprisoning them.
Men, women, and children. There were,
you know, it was announced ahead of
time. You could see people gathering and
there's the women's march. Everybody was
very excited that they were going to do
this and the world would see it and
finally they would stop. They would get
um their rights. Their children would be
able to prosper.
And Israel deployed snipers and shot a
number of them the very first day. They
did this every week for almost two
years. It was over a year and a half,
about a year and two/3 or something.
They did this every week. Thousands of
them. There were, you know, many people
were shot every day. Now there are
people, children with amputated limbs.
There are people, you know, not only are
they killed people, but the people that
have lifelong injuries and America week
after week after week by what's
supposedly our ally that gets over $10
million per day of our tax money and
Americans don't even know it went on.
Wow. I want to show one more clip from
this pastor and ask my next question
before we conclude.
I'm sick of all these Christians saying
we ought to have peace with Islam. Islam
is a satanic death cult and they would
cut your head off before I said amen in
this sermon if they had a chance to.
Did you ever feel you got to hear that,
right?
Yeah. Did you ever feel you travel to
Gaza, the West Bank, you know, when um
people that don't get out of their
hometown and they don't travel, they
don't mix uh besides just, you know, the
community that they're around
and then they hear something like this
from this pastor. I think it's very very
dangerous.
Yeah.
Because he's painting a picture. He's
painting a picture like if a Muslim gets
a chance, he's going to chop your head
off. Did you at any time feel that a
danger? Did you feel your life was
threatened because you're a Christian
and you were around some Muslims?
Never. I was, you know, the first time I
went, as I was said, was February and
March of 2001. I wandered around by
myself with my notebook and little
camera. Went around Gaza by myself
walking around. Um, you know, I was
invited to stay in people's homes, which
I was glad to do. Uh, I was never, it
was actually very safe. invite. Hold on.
People People invited you to stay in
their home. Do they know you? Were those
cousins or brothers or
No,
I don't have any any relatives that are
Palestinian or um No, this was just they
were so happy.
Were these like really were were these
were these like very rich people that
they had huge mansions that they're
inviting you in their homes?
Um most were not, but one was. One had
actually a very nice home. Um but even
that you know they but most weren't you
know they were just random people that
would would meet me and were very you
know when I would go around I was in
Kunas for example that's you know talked
about if you watch the news a lot I was
in Gaza city I was in Rafa and people
would come up to me you know crowds of
people because there were no other
Americans this was at the height of the
second uprising called the second inifat
um and they would come up and just say
say hello because they you know a lot of
people it's like if somebody French came
we'd all say bonjour even if we didn't
speak French but there are a number of
people that do speak English that's
taught in the schools so you know they
would they were happy to have me there
and would want to show me what was going
on to their homes they take me in and
show me how bullet riddled they were
um and then they would ask me to tell
Americans about them which I told them I
would do and That's why I'm still doing
it now. I went back on other trips one
time with my daughter. We traveled
around. We couldn't get into Gaza
because they've kept it closed off. I I
went into got into Gaza one time since.
But we went around the West Bank that's
also being, you know, also under
daily attacks by Israeli forces. Thought
firstand we were never at any risk.
Um this is just there was another thing.
There's so much, you know, this is 20
years worth of I could talk for weeks,
but um there was even in about 2003,
there was a group, this is well
documented,
a number of Israel partisans and groups
came together to intentionally create
Islamophobia,
that they would promote anti-Muslim
um feeling around the United States. And
who is that? This was um it's written
about it's actually there's an article
about it on the let me see if I can
bring it up I think believe
so it was well funded by um can't
remember the name let me just look this
up
the pastor I was talking to he was kind
of alluding to the same thing that this
was orchestrated this was set up to
plant this in the minds of Americans
this hate of Muslims and Islam to create
this division between Christians and
Muslims
that's right this has been going on by a
number of people and again it's it's
documented this I don't believe in
conspiracy theories. I want to confir
fact people if if any conservatives do
watch this they know how often the media
is slanted against that portion of our
population. There's a lot of
misinformation
about what conservatives have done. So
they should realize that that same kind
of misinformation and twisting and
omission is going on about Palestine.
You know, the the media they they trust
are not trustworthy on the Palestinian
issue. Almost, you know, very few of
none of the mainstream ones that I've
seen really do have good coverage of it,
even though they often had accurate
accurate coverage on other things. So
conservatives have also often been
called anti- if you work on Palestine or
if you're conservative, you will be
called anti-semitic falsely.
Mhm.
So they need to realize it's not that
you know don't don't believe that
accusation.
Um so let me just see if I can quickly
get this information because as I said
people go to our website ifameansnew.org
you can get all of this but this is one
of the main ones to know about. Yeah, I
think this is very very important when
you have people who are fueling this
hate, people who are in the business of
hate while we're trying to spread
understanding and that's what our
program is about, helping people
understand to create tolerance, to
create some kind of peace.
That's right.
Through education.
That's right. It's extremely I think
this is a very strong word and I don't
use it very often but it's it's truly
evil to try to create hatred to try to
make entire populations hate other
populations when most populations are
composed of decent human beings who love
their children who want to live in
safety and peace. That's true of all
populations including the Israeli
population. And yet here you have
absolutely an effort, a wellunded effort
to make Americans fear and hate Muslims.
And they and they want the same group
wants Muslims to fear and hate
Christians.
Absolutely. Like you said, this is evil.
Yes.
So the groups that did this, and these
aren't the only ones. There's Steven
Emerson, who's a supposedly
anti-terrorist um expert who's an Israel
partisan that goes around
creating that. But then there's this
group that of was launched in earnest in
2003.
Um the meeting gave this was a network.
This by the way the person who wrote
this particular article is a Jewish
person. This is not anti-semitic but
it's factual.
A network of Jewish groups ranging from
the ADL which calls everybody they don't
like anti-semitic. ranging from the ADL
and the American Jewish Committee, which
is actually a pro-Israel organization,
that's its main purpose,
um to Apac, the American Israel Public
Affairs Committee. So, those are three
of the groups that gathered. There were
others there also gathered to address
what they saw as a sudden rise in pro
Palestinian activism. So, the meeting
gave birth to this network to create
fear and hatred of Muslims.
those three groups. This is documented.
This is
and others.
Wow.
Um
then I'm just going to read they got one
of the people that was paying for it
because you know the more money you have
the more effective your propaganda is.
So there was um
sorry I'm just trying to read this
quickly and I'm can't find his name. And
while you do that I want to just show my
audience there'll be a clip of showing
you have former Israeli personnel. You
have also a former um intelligence
person showing how people how they used
this term anti-semitic. They weaponized
it. So you just keep searching and this
is a tactic and a ploy. So I'll let them
go ahead and listen to this.
And of course the campaign starts and
before you know it, the guy's labeling
and he's an anti-semit because that's
what we say he is. And that's one stain
you cannot wash.
Now, it shames me as a Jew to tell you
that, but that's the fact and it's
wrong.
That's right. Well, I think if they just
Google this, as we say these days, just
there's something called the Great
Islamophobic Crusade. It's on our
website.
The Great Islam. It's on your website.
If Americans only knew, they look for
the great Islamic.
That's right. By the way, um our
website, our official name is If
Americans Knew.
if Americans knew.org.
Yes. Um,
yes. What was that uh the title again?
The Great Islamophobic Crusade.
Oh, the Great Islamophobic Crusade.
And this is just one of a number of
initiatives
to
Okay.
to create
My last question here is Go ahead. You
want to add something else? I
just There are a number of initiatives.
This is one of many to create anti-Islam
beliefs in the United States.
My last question is, and I posed this
question to many Christians in the
pastor that I had on also. I said, "Do
you get offended as a Christian when I
say Jesus, peace be upon him?" Does that
offend you?
No, I love it.
You know, we obviously love Jesus.
That's the other thing that's so covered
up that that Jesus is revered by
Muslims.
That's people need to know that. They
don't they don't know that Mary is
revered by Muslims. And
yes, we believe Jesus was a messenger
like Abraham, like Noah, like like all
of the messengers who came with the same
message. Worship one and only one God
and be morally upright. So there's no
disrespect of Jesus, no um hurtful
things heraldled at his hurled at his
mother. There's a whole chapter named
after his blessed mother in the Quran.
And what were you going to say?
I think just um that this is you know
there's there are extremists everywhere
so you can find some extremist action by
Christian you know look at that pastor
to me that was you know really
horrendous extremism but he doesn't
represent all pastors he doesn't even
represent all the pastors that might
believe that theology
you know most of them would not be that
horrible or that bloodthirsty
so
absolutely yes
so uh it's been a great session. Again,
thank you uh for coming on.
Thank you.
God bless you.
Thank you.
And that's Allison Weir with with uh if
Americansnew.org.
Thanks very much.
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