Then you deal with that issue. You
clarify for them. Son of God. What does
son of God mean? God having a son. What
does it mean? Cows have calves. Cats
have
kittens. What do gods
have? Little
gods. Yeah. Does that make sense? I
mean, hey, you know, you got a big god,
a little god. You have two gods here.
I mean, if you're going to make that
kind of a analogy, he had a begotten
son. You know, if you stop and think for
a minute, it doesn't make sense really.
Or the idea that, you know, somehow
Jesus was
God. You know, Jesus himself was God.
You need to clarify for them. No, Jesus
wasn't God. If Jesus was God, as you
said, after he was resurrected, where is
he
now? And so, he's in the heaven sitting
on the right hand of God. But you just
said he was
God. Huh? God the father is God the son,
but he's sitting on the right hand of
God. Then who's sitting on his left
hand? God. And he's God. Yeah.
Complications here. You know this idea,
but this is part of their belief. You
know, they'll say, "Oh, it's a divine
mystery." You know, that's the way out.
Or they want to try to explain to you
how God is three in one. They have a
series of theories.
Some of them we call there's one called
the water theory. You know water it's
either liquid or it's gas steam or it's
solid. It's ice but it's still water.
One we say okay that's your god. You got
a water god. Our god is not like
water. Or some have the tree theory. The
tree has a trunk. It has roots. Has
branches. This one tree. Your god has
parts divisible into parts like a tree.
We our god is not like a tree. Or the
egg theory. The egg has a shell, has the
white, has the yolk, but it's one egg.
Come on, please. You know, you're making
God like his creation. Really? This is
what you this what you're coming down
to. Some say, "Okay, well, you know, you
can be a father, a brother, and a son,
can't you? But you're still one person.
Okay. But now if me as a father dies,
what happens to the brother and the
son,
right? Problem here for you. You know
when Jesus died on the cross, that means
the father and the holy spirit all died.
So it means God was
finished.
Right? Our God is a mystery. It's a
mystery. This understanding god is a
mystery. We just believe it. We say, you
know, God is not the author of
confusion. It says that in your Bible.
This is
confusion. Is that what the early
prophets called to? Can we hear Abraham,
Moses, were they talking about this that
you're talking about? Did Jesus speak
about that? Did Jesus speak about a
trinity? These are all things which came
about hundreds of years after
Jesus. Know that your religion was
fabricated by human beings. try to show
it to
them through
this. Of course,
um there are some people who say,
"Listen, he has to be God because he
made the dead come alive. He made the
lame walk, made the blind see, did all
these miracles." We say, go back to the
Old Testament on page 71. You can you
have a comparison there. All of the
miracles of Jesus were done by prophets
of the Old
Testament. mentioned. So we say this is
not the basis of Jesus being God. He was
born without a father. What about Adam?
What about Eve? Eve had no mother. Adam
had no father or mother. So what does
that make them? You know problems. You
know the arguments which they use for
son of God can even be more ludicrous.
Some of them will tell you look in the
Bible wherever yes it is mentioned
throughout the Bible son of God term is
used and note that Jesus doesn't say
anywhere I am the son of
God. People around him may mention it
but Jesus doesn't say I am the son of
God. Note then that in the Bible they
say well whenever son of God is used and
David is called the son of God, Abraham
is called, Adam is called. All these
people are called sons of God. But
whenever they use son of God, they use a
small S. In the Bible, you'll see small
S. When they're talking about Jesus,
they use capital S. Jesus is the son of
God. Capital S. You see? See the
difference? It means the real son. Well,
we say to them in Hebrew and Greek,
which the Old Testament is written in
Hebrew and Greek, the New Testament
written in, they don't have
capitals. Like Arabic, there's no
capitals and small letters. So, where
did that come from? It's contrived.
Something contrived to create an an
understanding in your mind that doesn't
exist.
And then the best thing to do is to take
them to the way of Jesus because the
most uh popular statement that if if a
Christian doesn't
know anything of the Bible and most
Christians don't even read the
Bible. If a Christian doesn't know
anything of the Bible, he will quote for
you that Jesus is supposed to have
said, "I am the way, the truth, and the
life. No one comes to the father except
by
me." So we say to them, okay, what does
that mean? I am the
way. Jesus is the way. Well, they say we
have to pray through Jesus to get to
God. You say no. All of the prophets
spoke about being the
way. They showed the way to
God. Now, where are you from Jesus's
way? Where are you from Jesus's way?
And we show them that the way of Jesus
in fact
is expressed now in the way of
Islam. Muslims follow the way of Jesus
more than Christians
do. The average Christian, is he
circumcised?
No. But Jesus is mentioned in the
Gospels as being circumcised on the
eighth day. And of course, thinking
about God being circumcised on the
eighth day is really something
absurd. But just take it back down to
Jesus. You know, you're following the
way of Jesus. You don't do circumcision.
Jesus didn't eat
pork. But you love
pork. Three little piggies went to
market. You know, I mean, you teach your
little children, hey, everything is
about piggies and pork, right? But this
was not the way of Jesus.
Jesus didn't eat it, didn't promote it,
you know. So, and you can go through and
in the notes we have a variety of
different practices whether it's
prostration in prayer. Jesus is recorded
as prostrating in prayer and Christians
now pray like Hindus with their hands
clasped and knees bent. This is Hindu
prayer. This is not uh the prayer of
Jesus. And a variety of other things
even the greetings itself. How did Jesus
greet each he and his companions greet
each other? Hi, how you doing?
Good morning. No, he said salam
allaykum. That's how they great greeted.
So we can by going through those points
clarify for them that the way of Jesus
is embodied in Islam. Muslims are closer
followers of Jesus than Christians who
claim that he is God. And the final
point that we can use and um again this
is for people who really are into Bible
issues and born again people is that the
scholars of
Christianity are
unanimous
in accepting that the authors of the
gospels were unknown.
They don't know who wrote the gospels.
So their doc doctrines, their systems,
their documents are of dubious origin.
We don't know who wrote them. And so
there's contradictions amongst them. You
don't have a reliable source of
information. But as I said, this is for
people who are heavy into the Bible and
its authenticity. It's the word of God,
etc. You can get into that kind of
discussion with them. But the main focus
I would advise if we're giving dawa to
Christians is to focus on the most
important aspect and that is who is
God. Make the clear distinction between
Jesus and God logically scripturally for
them or whatever you know get that
clear. Once they accept that yes, Jesus
is not God, he couldn't have been
God, then you have a beginning point to
understand
Islam. Because really after that, the
teachings which exist in the Bible and
that belief in the angels, the books and
all these other things, these all exist
in Islam, you know, and it's just a
matter of giving them the clarity that
Islam has.