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Welcome to the Dean Show and I'm here
with Adrian. How you doing, Adrian? I'm
doing great. How are you? We're at uh
his farm. As you can see, we got these
nice cows and I want to turn you guys
out to something incredible that
probably I don't know, it's been a
little bit over a year and I really got
into this raw milk. Now, there's some
misconceptions around it and most people
are really um who drink milk they many
people become lactose intolerant. You
know, they have all these allergies. Is
that from drinking raw milk or
pasteurized milk? What's the difference
now? Many people have no clue. Can you
help educate us? So, that's actually how
we ended up in the raw milk to begin
with. As my oldest daughter, Emily, who
owns the cows here with her younger
youngest sister, Claire, she was
diagnosed as lactose intolerance. So, as
a toddler, we went through ear
infections and constipation and diarrhea
and all those things, fevers and and
then antibiotics. And so she was
diagnosed with a either a milk allergy
or lactose intolerance. Well, a a
Menanite guy that used to shear sheep
for me, we were talking about it one day
at lunch and he said she's not allergic
to milk. She just needs raw milk. Now, I
had never really heard of such a thing.
And I grew up on a farm, but I didn't
grow up milking cows. And so, uh oh,
several months later, he called me and
he had a heer that um was about to cab.
And so he he made me a deal I couldn't
refuse and basically guilted me into
buying this this cow from her. And
that's Precious. That's why they named
it Precious Pastures. That was the name
of our first heer. And so when when she
caved, uh my wife made sure that the
milk was safe for me to drink first and
then and then she and the kids would
drink it. And my daughter Emily can
drink raw milk, unpasteurized,
unhomogenized milk all day and it
doesn't give her any health problems. To
the contrary, it it's healthgiving to
her. So there's a lot of people that
have a lot of problems
um that you know if if conventional
pasteurized homogenized milk is not
working well for them often times raw
milk will and it's it's a misconception
that you know the foods that we eat
don't have any influence on our our gut
bacteria um all those sorts of things
you know that um that I think you know I
meet a lot of people that raw milk
solves a lot of problems
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Take us back, Andrew, if you don't mind
in time.
um early 1900s they had the distilleries
and it was very filthy. people were
getting sick and they developed this
concept now of killing the bad bacterias
and and then it became a big industry
now, right? And the difference between
then how it started and and and the
movement the big raw milk movement now
the difference because uh like I was
very very scared to you know nervous I
thought I was going to get sick or
something but can you let's go back in
time to how this whole uh pastoration uh
process started. So you need to remember
that as the what they call them brewery
dairies that those were dairies that
sprang up around breweries in the middle
of pretty heavily populated areas. So
they had all of this brewery waste that
they needed to get rid of or sometimes
it's referred to as distillers. And so
cows could eat that and and cows would
produce milk on that. But a cow's cows,
you know, for the first 9,000, 10,000
years, however long the cows have been
domesticated, depending on what culture
you're from, um they they'd never eaten
distilled grains. You know, that wasn't
something the cows had ever eaten. So,
they were filthy conditions. The cows
were not healthy. Um they you need to
remember then they also didn't have
stainless steel. They didn't have um you
know, bulk tank refrigeration. they
didn't they didn't have cleanliness and
and u so all of those things you you can
certainly in in unhygienic conditions
with any sort of a food product you can
certainly have problems but but those
had inherent problems that you know um
once you got away from the
the any unhealth in the cows then then
you certainly got healthier milk I mean
it it's you know so tuberculosis in cows
was a real thing I mean there there are
diseases that you have to watch about
foreign animals. And so you can
influence that by the health of the
animals, but you can also just through
good husbandry, you know, and
cleanliness and and carefulness and
refrigeration and stainless steel and
all the sort of things that we have now
that they didn't have then. But I would
also argue, you know, when when all of
the Midwest farm farm people went off to
fight in World War I, you know, these
were some of the healthiest people on
Earth. you know that there was a reason
you know um why why why they were you
know so inherently healthy.
These cows are very very friendly. You
see they we got
look so uh tell us um how
how when you go through the
pasturization process I mean like the
creator has has given us you know this
gift of of of of um food and how it was
intended. I mean uh back before 100
years ago there was no such thing as
pasteurization was there? And there was
no such thing as refrigeration. So you
know if you go back if you go back to
the land flowing with milk and honey if
you go back to to um when they talk
about in in ancient writings of people
eating Kurds and way you know they they
they talked about sitting and eating
Kurds. If you came if you came onto the
earth, you know, 9,000 years ago, any
milk that you had, especially in the
Mediterranean areas or, you know, equate
equatorial areas of the world, was was
already starting to to um turn towards
sour. So, you know, you didn't drink
cold milk in those temperate zones, you
know. So when when you ate curdled milk
um there that's full of all sorts of uh
bacterias like we would have in in good
bacterias that we would have in yogurts
and stuff that I would argue you know we
human humans have evolved for lack of a
better term at the same rate that as as
our agriculture has and and milk
consumption and all of the you know
cream and whey products and all these
all came up at the same time. Let's talk
a little bit uh tell us Adrian what what
actually the the process when you
pasteurize the milk there's so many I
mean we can safely say that I mean uh
milk is like a a superfood you may get
so many nutrients and and vitamins and
minerals and proteins when you
pasteurize it do you destroy all that
what happens in the process well you can
destroy them or you can make them way
way less digestible you know the the the
easiest milk to digest is if you're
going to drink milk is actually warmed
milk that hasn't even been chilled yet.
But then you can also collaborate. There
are people that collaborate that never
um never refrigerate it. Um so it's kind
of going towards kefir um going towards
yogurt. Um so so but but pasteurizing
and homogenizing they're they're both
you know pretty harsh processes on a
pretty delicate product. Um, so you
know, all of the good bacteria, all the
probiotics, all the things that, you
know, we as mammals and and and the
mammals that we, you know, milk, um,
that that, you know, you need all of
those available fats and proteins and
all those things that, you know, I would
argue that the homogenization is really
bad for the fat part and that you get
particles that are small enough to cause
all sorts of gut problems. you know, the
the I I it's my opinion that, you know,
these diverticulitis problems, the
Crohn's problems and all these are are
at least exerbated by pasteurized
homogenized milk. But but also all the
other things in our diet that are, you
know, processed to take the the goodness
that, you know, 9 or 10,000 years of
human evolution, you know, gut
bacterias, all those sorts of things
that that we're missing out on. So all
of a sudden we're having to add
probiotics back into our diet or or were
on antibiotics all the time. And uh you
know I I would argue the same thing
would would take place in you know other
young mammals that you know if they were
if they didn't have access to to raw
milk as well. So isn't there enzymes
also in the milk that help you digest
it? Certain, you know, if if you take
the my my test for people would be to to
find get find yourself some raw milk,
put it in a glass on a counter, put a
put a paper towel over it, but don't
seal it so that it goes anorobic and
take conventional pasteurized
homogenized milk, set it next to the
thing the same way. Your your raw milk
in several days will clabber. Um, but
you could you could mix it back up and
I've done this, you know, in 2 weeks
unrefrigerated and it'll curd and you
it's still tasty and digestible. Your
your pasteurized homogenized milk will
rot. It it'll putrify because it the
enzymes that are in there that are that
have been in there all along. They're
they were put there in the beginning to
to make, you know, a a milk a movable
thing that we could take with us, you
know, 9,000 years ago before
refrigeration. Um um and before, you
know, if you think about it,
pasteurization was available 9,000 years
ago, right? You could have heated milk.
It it it could have been done, but they
didn't do it. Um because you didn't have
a milk a system where you had to have
milk that would last for days or weeks
or months. um you know and
and you you ate as fresh a food as you
could and that's that's how it was. Now
now let let me talk about another point.
If you take some of these cows that
don't see the light of day, uh they're
they're being fed foods that they're not
made to eat, you know, corn and grains
and and then they get sick and they got
to pump them on antibiotics. And if you
drink that milk, that milk needs to be
pasteurized, right? That'll get you sick
if you drink it. But I mean, the way
that uh God Almighty intended for these
animals that are h that are humanely
treated that are that are out, you know,
eating what God intended them for to eat
in a good clean environment like you
have here. I mean, that that's the kind
of the the milk that's safe. Oh,
absolutely. Can you talk about the
difference? Oh, certainly. There are
there are So, cows that are milked
specifically, these dairy cow, they
don't many of them don't see the light
of day, do they? Right. And they never
have grass and they don't eat much
forage. So, so a cow if if you watch
these cows if they're not eating or
resting or in this case they're kind of
excited to see people, but when they're
ruminating that they're adjusting their
body pH. So, a a cow with a a goodized
cow will have like a 50gallon rin. So,
that's meant to have roughage. The the
whole idea is they they've got a
fourchambered stomach. They're a
ruminant and so that that actually
buffers their system. So a cow like that
is is has so much good bacteria on them
that the bad bacteria can never get a
foothold and really take over. But but a
a cow so we we've taken cattle and
everybody's heard of mad cow disease and
that sort of thing. Well, those are
functions of what we feed cows. So you
know cows are cows herbivores in general
would never eat each other, right?
There's omnivores there. There are, you
know, we're omnivores, but there, you
know, there are there are animals that
we eat that are omnivores that would eat
other meat. Cows won't do that, but but
we force them into that situation
because of cheap nutrition. So when when
they render dead animals and feed them,
you know, whether it's to cattle or
sheep or that sort of thing, um you
know, you're creating a situation that's
unnatural, has never occurred, you know,
in 10,000 years of agriculture and and
definitely probably spoke, you know,
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tell us one more thing, big business. I
mean, after everything the whole process
got started, um, we see that uh, you
know, it's this is actually, you know,
bad for business that the raw movement
starts to grow, but it is growing.
People are awaking and seeing that this
is not how the creator intended it for
it to be pasteurized and you kill all
the good stuff in there, but raw milk
the way that it was for us, that's the
way we want it. And there's a movement
now, right? Well, I I hope there's a
movement. It's it's it's my argument has
been and I've talked to every every
politician I could find in the state of
Illinois and all the health department
people I could find. But you know the
trouble with a with a issue like raw
milk is you're small farmers
um and you're only essentially dealing
with people who really seek out their
own food. So who take that
responsibility. The difficulty on this
issue in Illinois has been we have a
two-party system in in in our in our
government and one party loves big
business and the other party loves big
government and neither of them love
individuals you know uh supplying a
public with something that they want but
you know without a good without an in
between like I meet the most fascinating
people the best educated people um the
most self-aware people that you'd ever
meet selling raw milk it it's been it's
been an epiphany for me that that you
know
um and the difficulty is that you know
people that are the most passionate
about what they eat and what they put in
their body have the most trouble getting
getting I I the government to acquies to
let them do that and that's that's a
really that's a big frustration for me.
It's a huge I mean I'm a fifth
generation Illinois farmer and you know
my daughters would love to keep their
cows and continue to do this but you
know it it's it's kind of a race to see
you know who who who who wins out I
guess here with Adrian uh tell us if
people want to visit you your your your
daughter's website how how can they are
they they could they come out and and
see you here at the farm. So so
unfortunately according to my wife we
milk cows twice a day every day. So, so
the uh farm is at 387 South Malta Road
in Rochelle, Illinois. Um, I would ask
you to call ahead and then also visit my
daughter's website. It's
preciouspastures.com. Precious again was
the old original cow and she was just a
pearl of an animal. Just a joy to have
around. So, thank you. Thank you, sir.
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