Atheists we add to them the deists. This
is this is what is more common than
atheists. In your course of argument you
may more find deist because many
Christians actually have become deist. A
theist is one who recognizes that there
is a god but that religion is made up by
human beings.
God did not communicate his will to his
creatures. He just created the world and
left it to run, left it to run on its
own.
That is quite common amongst Christians
who recognize Christianity to have so
many faults, so many contradictions etc
in it. So they reject Christianity and
anything like it.
So all religion is contrived.
I say you know we don't believe in
organized religion. So we say to them
you prefer a disorganized religion
you don't like organization you don't
like rules you know they commonly you
find people say too many rules in Islam
you know you haram halal everything just
rules rules rules but in life
does any system work without rules
you know whether it's a business whether
it's a school
whether it's a government. Is there any
system that you can think of that works
without rules? No. You want rules. You
need rules everywhere.
But when it comes to religion, you don't
want rules.
Why? Because you want to do your own
thing. That's it. You recognize that
doing your own thing in all these other
systems creates chaos and confusion.
But religion, you want to do your own
thing. See this is illogical.
A religion which is even more important,
more comprehensive,
it will more be in need of rules even
than the systems that we devise
ourselves. That's reality. Anyway, for
the deist, the simple way to approach
their argument that God created the
world and left it to run on its own. We
say that to to raise that issue is to
attribute to God
characteristics which we don't even want
to attribute to ourselves.
What do I mean?
Imagine
you as a businessman, you set up a
business
and you put an ad in the paper for
people to come and work in your
business.
The people come, you hire them, but you
don't tell them what they're supposed to
do in the business.
Do you think they're going to march into
your factory and just go into the places
they they're supposed to be and just do
what they're supposed to do? Or will
they just go to the cafeteria,
sit down and drink tea and coffee and
chat and till somebody comes and tells
them what they're supposed to do?
That's common sense.
If you don't tell people, if people are
not told what they need to do, then your
system is not going to work. Your
business or your whatever, it's not
going to work. You must inform people.
Why do they bother to produce manuals,
you know, for whatever product you buy?
Why do they bother? Why not just sell
them the radio, sell them the TV, sell
them the whatever, and let people figure
it out for themselves?
Why not? because they're likely to turn
something they shouldn't have turned.
Plug it in someplace they shouldn't have
plugged it in and the whole thing
explodes. Chaos.
So you have manuals to explain how to
use these things. That's common sense.
So to say that God created us
and he did not inform us of our purpose
here, he did not communicate his will to
us
is to attribute to to God
illogic.
To attribute to God disorganization,
stupidity, things like this because we'd
say such a person is stupid. a person
who sets a business up and doesn't hires
people and doesn't tell him what to do.
He says, "Guys, he's a fool. He's an
idiot." And that's what you end up
attributing to God to say he created
this world and he didn't tell us what we
need to do here. Because what are people
going to do?
They're going to do everything but what
they're supposed to do if they're not
informed.
This is common sense.
God is the most wise.
then he is going to tell us what to do
here. He is going to communicate his
will to us. That is a natural
consequence of wisdom.
So
after you know showing them that it
doesn't that doesn't make sense then
it's just a matter of uh dealing with
the systems because of course the next
question is okay god communicated his
will but there are so many religions
you know which one which is the right
one because this is one of the arguments
why they're all wrong because everyone
is saying that they are the true
religion etc. And there's so many of
them. How do you know? Well,
you identify the necessary criterion for
a true religion. A true religion, what
should it what should be its
characteristics?
And you look at the religions and see
which one fits into those
characteristics.
You use your reason. This is where God
gave us reason to determine what is
correct and what is incorrect. So you
compare and we're not saying you must
accept Islam and so though we it's what
we want you to do. We'd like you to do
that. We feel it's best for you. But you
look at the systems and compare. Compare
Christianity, compare Islam, compare
Hinduism, compare Sikism, Buddhism,
whatever. Compare them.
look at what they have to offer and make
an educated choice
and that is the that is our
responsibility to convey that message to
to put them get them to the position
where they say okay I will go and check
these things out very important
and this is why actually giving da to
many of these peoples it's important to
focus on purpose of creation
why are you here,
you need to find out. This is something
vital, something very important. You
need to know why you're here. Because if
you don't know, then it means likely you
are wasting your life.
You're involved in so many different
things, taking up all of your time, but
it is not what you are here for.
And at the end of this life, you will
regret
having not found out the purpose of
life.
So we try to direct them over to finding
that out. Look at what the different
religions say.