Recently, many of us have been very
disappointed to say the least and
shocked shocked by the public glorifying
and support of Elon Musk, Elon Musk and
the like for Stefan Christopher aka
Tommy Robinson when evidence is clearly
showing people are testifying to his
devillike behavior. Well, we have
another insider who was part of this
hate group, an official lover of Tommy
Robinson. So, we need you to help us get
this message to Elon Musk and the like
and others with the hope that maybe they
can change the same way he did. My next
guest grew up in a small northeast
village in England and says he was
sucked in to extreme fear-mongering
propaganda and fake news and fake news.
He confesses that he was shamefully a
racist Tommy Robinson lover who he
thought spoke sense. He decided he
wanted to confront Muslims without the
gangs and the shouting. He prepared
himself to be met with the hatred of
Muslims. He went on to visit a mosque
and to his surprise, the Imam invited
him in. He was shocked. Suddenly, he
says, the hatred and intolerance he had
of Muslims suddenly began to fade
slowly. Now, he went on to do something
unimaginable, but for him, it was
totally life-changing. And his life, he
says, has never been better. So, we need
you to get this to the likes of Elon
Musk and the Tommy Robinson supporters
who are filled with this type of hate
and to show what happens when you do
what he did and the positive outcomes.
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Salam. Thank you. You heard the
introduction not too long ago. You're
walking into this mosque. But before
that, what did you know about Muslims
and Islam?
Everything I knew about Muslims and
Islam was all negative. Um, I was very
active on social media from a young age.
And
um, I came across one day on Twitter,
you know, ADL, English Defense League.
And I'm like, what's this? And of
course, I'd heard of Islam, but didn't
know nothing about it. And all these
videos are coming up, all the bad stuff,
you know, the extremists and stuff. And
then it came to the attacks in the UK
and stuff like this. And so I'm
following them thinking, man, Muslims,
they're not good people. It's all in bad
like this. I don't like Islam. And it
was in our country. And he Tommy Wson
was explaining how they take it over.
And there's um areas in the UK what's
unrecognizable and stuff. And so I was
instantly drawn to him. Oh, he's our
savior. Look at him highlighting this
stuff. So I didn't have no no good views
on Islam or Muslims. Despite the fact of
my own ignorance, I didn't know anything
about it. Just from what I'd heard from
social media.
Um yeah, and I don't know, I got hooked
quite quick on on it. Um I began
following more ADL accounts and stuff
and then I start looking googling and
news clips and stuff like this.
And at the time as well, my sister
actually was going with a Muslim and I
never met him and I said I didn't want
to meet him. I just had bad expectations
about him and stuff.
Um, and over the years I'd deliberately
cause arguments with with Muslims online
just to just to full of hatred just to
try and get a reaction from them and
stuff. And I have a friend of mine who's
actually my school teacher. Um, and he's
very, you know, he's very educated man
and he'd always sort of when I I'd give
these farright views on on social media
posts, he'd just sort of explain it from
another perspective. But at the time I
was thinking, I'm right, you're wrong.
you know, you don't know how dangerous
we living in with Muslims around us in
this warped reality what I had in my
head. Um, and one day he just said to
me, "Have you ever thought about going
to a mosque to actually ask them
yourself these questions?" And I
thought I was actually scared at first.
I didn't I didn't think I would be
accepted, you know, especially telling
them I'm from EDL and stuff. But I don't
know, something kept nagging at me. I
don't know what it was. something in my
head and I just thought okay then maybe
we'll go for this. So years later I
decided as I reached out to a
mosque found out the location that
wasn't too far from where I lived and I
just went to the door and just knocked
on the door and I was I was actually
expecting confrontation you know then
the door just opened quietly and it was
just that your mom stood there and I
just had to tell him straight. I said
look I'm from the EDL I want to learn
about Wait, he just showed up. So you
show up at the mosque, you say, "Hey,
look, I'm from the EDL."
First thing I said was, "I'm from the
EDL." But you know, I was I had to tell
him straight because I was expecting a
fight. I was expecting him to shout and
stuff on. And he just smiled and just I
was just his whole demeanor was so calm.
It It was amazing. It was really
amazing.
Um Yeah. And and he says, "Please come
in." And and I walked in. And when I
stepped in, it was like stepping into a
different world. It was just so
peaceful. It was really, really nice.
Um, but I was still on edge a bit and
and he said, "Please come in." And he
took me into his office and we sat down
and he just began explaining stuff about
Islam. He says, "What have you heard
first of all?" And I was explaining a
few things, you know, but I was just, it
was really mindaltering. Um, I just wish
I did it many years
before. Um, yeah. and we were sat
talking and I my plan was just to tell
him I was ADL and stuff and just to
maybe talk for maybe I don't know half
an hour. I ended up being there. I think
I was there about 3 hours. I was just
mesmerized by the whole thing. Um and so
he says, "Would you like to watch us
pray?" And I thought, "Well, he seems
nice so far." "Yeah, I will." And I
walked inside into the actual the
praying room and I just had this
overwhelming feeling. I can't even
explain it to this day. It was just so
relaxed and I felt like that's where I
needed to be if that makes any sense. It
was really amazing. Um, and I watched
them prayer, you know, and he says,
"Please come back next week." And he
gave me like a sheet of paper with a few
things of and I went home and I read
them and stuff
and I was just it was amazing. And and I
went back the next week, you know, and
and he recommended a course online,
which I did. It was like a online
Islamic course. So I've actually got
certificates from that. Wow. Wow. Yeah.
And just from there it was crazy because
I wouldn't associate with Muslims.
Um after I went there for a bit, I ended
up getting a job delivering pizzas. Um
and the owner was Muslim. And this is
going to sound ridiculous, but so I
always been radicalized as a young age
that Muslims hate you. They don't like
to touch food after you and all this.
And I bought a bar of chocolate and I
says to the boss, I says, "Do you want
some?" And he said, "Yeah, snap me some
off." And in my head I'm thinking, but
Muslims don't like to touch food after
you. And all this weird old EDL stuff
start coming back to me. And I says, no,
here you can get it yourself. And he
says, no, please snap me some off. So I
snapped him some off again. And he just
ate it. So just normal stuff. What you
just consider normal in my head was just
unheard of. The Muslim like Muslims
doing this sort of stuff. It was crazy.
Um yeah. And my
whole I mean at the time I was going
through a bad bad part of me life. Um, I
was in a I ended up getting a bad drug
addiction, a really bad drug addiction.
Um,
and I was locked up in uh I was locked
up just in the cells one week and I was
like, I need to sort me life out and
stuff and I didn't know where to turn to
and stuff and I got on me knees and I
prayed the Christian way
and I got up front and I didn't feel any
different and stuff and then the next
week I got locked up exactly a week
later. So I sat in the cell and thought,
you know, I know how to pray the Islamic
way. I might give it a shot. And that
the police had said that, look at you're
getting remanded tomorrow. You're going
to court. You're getting remanded. And I
was like, okay. So for if anyone's going
to get me out of this, if there is a
God, I'm going to pray to Allah. And so
I prayed the Muslim way, the Islamic
way. And I lay back on me cell thing.
And I felt I felt, you know, I feel a
bit better now. This this felt a lot
more comfortable because at this time I
was a firm atheist. I was christened at
birth and then became a firm atheist and
then I've tried to pray the Islamic way.
So I went to court the next day
and the judge looks at all the charges I
had and he said you know you're not done
this before but you're not going to
jail. You're going to go out and these
are your conditions. And I was first
thing that came to me head was that
praying worked. I prayed to Allah and
that worked. And during my drug
addiction, I'd lost my family members.
I'd lost my daughter. I was basically
just isolated from the whole world. And
so every time I began to pray, stuff
would happen positively all the time.
I've never I've never ever had anything
like it in my life. Um I prayed that my
daughter would contact me, me daughter
contact me, I prayed I would make amends
with my father, I made amends for my
father. Every single thing I've prayed
for since has come true. I mean, and I I
decided in January this year that I
would I would finally commit to being a
full Muslim and and do my shada. And
I've never looked back. Honestly,
I I've been feel so embarrassing because
I've been filled so so much hatred over
the years. I mean, when when your
heart's full of hatred, you've got no
place for love. And it's very sad that
I've neglected that over the years. But
I'm trying to make amends now. Um all
the people who I've hurt in the past.
Um, and I was talking to the imam and I
said, "Look, I've insulted Islam in the
past. Will Allah forgive me and stuff?"
And and I've insulted Muslims and and he
says, "Yes, as long as you know your
heart's in the right place, Allah guides
who he will on the right path." And I do
feel like I'm on the right path now. I
feel I feel like this is where I belong.
And every time I go into my mosque, I'm
always made to feel welcome and everyone
shakes my hand and stuff. And a lot of
them are quite surprised that I'm from
the EDL. Um, the funny thing is I did
two protests with Tommy Wson and one of
the protests there was a village next to
my village and the old pub was getting
turned into a mosque. So back in the
days I was like everyone was up in arms
and it was in the newspaper and stuff
and there was about a thousand people um
turned out to protest against this and I
was one of
them and the the very pope that turned
into a mosque where I was outside
protesting is the very mosque I go to
today. So it's gone full circle. I've
went from outside hating it to inside
the mosque and loving it. It's
absolutely mind-blowing. Wow. Wow. So
you went from protesting from that
mosque being open to actually now
praying in that mosque. The exact same
mosque. The exact same mosque. Wow. That
is truly amazing. I want to just uh let
people know who are hearing this uh term
Allah for the first time, you might show
up on the video here where when you
translate the language Jesus spoke,
which is Aramaic, Jesus would say Allah.
This is the same God, Allah. and Arabic
and and Jews who are Arabic. Jews and
Christians who are Arabic speaking, they
also use the word Allah. So this is not
some different God. This is the creator
of the heavens and the earth. Christians
might consider him the the father in
heaven. This is the creator God
almighty, Allah. So you were praying to
the one who created Jesus, the one who
Jesus was praying to. And now things are
changing. And let's take a step
back. What did you know? And most
people, what do they why do they there's
been a such a growing popularity now
that you have people like Elon Musk who
are supporting a person like Tommy
Robinson and what is it do you think
that drives people and that are getting
that he's getting all this backing now?
That's something I can't put my finger
on. I don't I really don't know. Um see
Elon Musk is in the position where he
should know better. I mean the man's a
billionaire. He meets everybody. He
knows all different races, cultures, and
stuff. I genuinely don't know what goes
through that man's head. Why is you know
the thing with Tommy Robinson? If he
didn't just target a specific ethnicity
or specific religion and he went after
all grooming gangs, the man could be a
politician, the man would be loved by
Muslims, the man will be loved by Hindu,
by everybody. But the fact he just you
can tell he's just racist towards one
group, it's it's his downfall. And
that's what I start to notice. Um, but
regard Musk, I really I really don't
know. The man seems pretty warped to me.
I mean I mean these uh things we find
that uh you know this name Stephan
Christopher. Have you heard this name
Stephan? Have you heard this name
Stephan Christopher? Is that No. Is that
Tommy's proper name? Yeah that's his
proper name. Yeah that's his proper
name. So So when I say Stephan
Christopher that's actually aka Tommy
Robinson. I mean many people they attack
Muslims and many of these things that
they attack Muslims for have nothing to
do with Islam. So now you have Tommy
Robinson many of his we come to know
that many of the people who have been
some of his lead supporters in this
actual group they've actually been
charged and convicted of pedo
activities. Um, did you know at the time
that also people are coming out that are
talking about this drug addiction and
the misuse of donation funds, you know,
with and all this corruption? Did you
know about that? They just don't seem to
understand that Robinson's criminal
record is highly extensive and very
unpleasant. So, you know, for 20 years
he's been breaking the law. This is not
a nice guy. This is a pretty repellent
human being. He's monetized his hatred
of Islam. Uh it has warped, in my view,
all his so-called journalism, activism,
whatever he wants to call it, because
it's always skewed against Muslims. It's
never fair and balanced in any way. If
you haven't already, go ahead, guys.
Subscribe right now. Know about any of
the their um pedal convictions or stuff
like that. Um when when I did um I've
only did two protests um and my friend
my friends came along both
times. It just seemed out of control
anyway. There was no organization to it.
Um, and I remember Tommy saying, it was
a while ago now, but something about he
needed money to fund a bus, like a
double-decker bus or something he was
getting to to highlight the groom and
gangs and stuff. And everyone's like,
"Yes, yes." And a lot of people donated
loads of money. And next thing you know,
oh, I'm not getting a bus now. And no
one ever questioned where the money
went. It's strange. Like, that's one
thing that made me step back and think,
"Hold on a minute, where's that money
gone?" You know, it's obvious now he's
in it for his own personal gains. But um
I didn't know about drug addiction. I
can I can see
because when I was in the matches there
was a lot of people on drugs there. You
could clearly tell um these these like
myself just misguided um
radicalized uh and it's sad to see I
don't see the drug issue being solved
anytime soon for anything. Drugs is
right at the minute.
Uh do you think if uh people like Elon
Musk if they knew what you know now
about Muslims and Islam would still have
this
hate that we're seeing towards Muslims
and Islam? Absolutely not. I mean what
we don't what we don't what we fear and
we don't understand we instantly have a
hatred towards. It's sort of a a human
genetic thing. And it's clear people
that don't understand Islam I didn't
understand Islam and that's why I
disliked it cuz I was radicalized. If
you learn about Islam, go to a mosque
and talk to an actual imam. There's
there's no other thing but peace and
love from Islam. And I can say that from
the bottom of my heart. Learn about the
life of Prophet Muhammad, peace be upon
him.
Um I just I do think that Elon Musk just
repeats a lot of farright rhetoric um
that he doesn't I don't think he wants
to learn about Islam. I think he just
likes to criticize to keep himself
popular. That's just my personal
opinion.
I mean, do you think if he I mean, do
you think if he knew what many people
are starting to what's being uncovered
about some of the the stories that
you're saying about the bus and then the
people coming out with the cocaine
stories and all this other stuff, you
know, the misuse of the funds? Did you
think Elon Musk knows about this? And if
he if he did know about this, he would
still would he could still consider
supporting him? That's a tough question.
Um, I really don't know. I really don't
know. Surely you can't depart someone
who's you would think. You would think
he wouldn't, but you don't know what's
going on. Exactly. Yeah. I think he's
trying to drum up publicity just in the
wrong place. I don't think it would
matter. Even if he did know these facts,
to be honest, he might just he would
still probably do it just to cause
conflict. My personal opinion, it's very
shocking to see. It's very shocking to
see someone in such one of the most one
of most influential men out there, Elon
Musk, to have this kind of uh money,
this kind of status. And you would think
he would do something like yourself,
somebody who was brave, courageous, and
you just went to the mosque and you got
to the source of what you thought was
the problem that Elon Musk, I'm sure he
can knock on many uh mosques and people
would love to sit and talk with him. And
I think that conversation would go, I
mean, well, if he come and explore and
ask questions and and that's a
surprising thing. Someone like you has
the common sense to do that. Why not
him? I don't get it. Exactly. Yeah. I
mean, he's certainly got the the mental
capability to go and just have an honest
discussion at a mosque, you know, but I
don't think he wants to. I I just think
I think he's shut off from that whole
concept. He's got his beliefs and I
think he's just stuck with them. That's
my personal opinion. It's very strange
thing and very sad to see as well. Yeah.
And uh Yeah. And uh we want people to
get this to Elon Musk. We want people to
get this to uh the people who are the
Tommy Robinson supporters who are kind
of brain still I mean many who are still
brainwashed are filled with this hate to
see what happens when you take that hate
to properly get an educa educated sit
with the Muslims learn what Islam truly
is and you see how your life can change
for the better. Absolutely. I
mean when I after I learned when I was
sat with the the imam and my whole
perception changed I'll just tell you a
quick story where my friend he was also
at the EDL march and stuff and I picked
him up one day in the car and this was
after I've been to the mosque and he
knew I'd been to the mosque but he was
like ah you shouldn't go there you know
dismissive and I was like look you
really need to come with me you need to
see for yourself it's not what we've
been told so we're in the car one day
and he said you know he had his little
girl at the back and he's pushing on the
swing and he says a Muslim lady came
over with her little girl and she put
her little girl in the swing and she's
pushing her baby and he says and then
she went over and she pushed she pushed
both swings together and he says so I
got my child and quickly left and I went
and he must have expected me to start
laughing or agree with him and I pulled
the car over and I says what did you
just say and he repeated what he said
and I was just like I lost my head with
him you know I was like that is can you
imagine how that woman felt can you
imagine how some Muslims feel in the
world They already feel isolated in this
country with stuff like what ADL stuff
then Tommy Robinson says. Can you
imagine how she felt? And I was
absolutely disgusted. And I saw my old
self in him and it just sort of made me
say I will never go back to that way
again. You know, you've got when your
heart's full of hate, you've got no
time. You've got no place for love. And
it was it still makes me sad to this day
that that he actually did that to that
woman.
Um and it's sad that sadly that still
happens. there's still um Islamophobic
attacks in the UK still. Um to the
people like still in the ADL now, they
really need to just reach out to a
Muslim, go to a mosque and and just have
a genuine honest conversation and I can
guarantee you all the fears and hatred
that you've got will soon melt away and
you'll realize you that you've been lied
to and you've been radicalized like I
was.
And uh and uh
another evidence and proof when you look
at us here, you're you're a native born
in the the UK. So you're you're
European. So you're you're European,
right? Are you uh half Pakistani or No,
just ne neither am I. So I'm also
European. I'm American. And you're also
you're also now a Muslim. you. The good
news is that you actually and a Muslim
is simply one like Jesus and Moses and
Abraham and all the prophets and
messengers that God sent. There's always
the same message is one who submits his
or her will to the will of the creator
of the heavens and earth. That's the
concept. It's always been there and
that's what a Muslim is. So you're a
Muslim, I'm a Muslim, and we're living
submission to the creator, not the
creation in one word. That's summed up
with Islam. That's it. And we've
dispelled a huge myth that the majority
of Muslims are Arabs because a Muslim
can be someone from like you, from the
UK, from America, from anywhere in the
world, all over the world. Um, I had due
to my drug addiction, I went into rehab
and they all know now that I'm a Muslim.
I converted at the start of the year and
they've all been actually there's
there's been no no hatred or anything.
Everyone's very supportive. you know,
I've legally changed my first name or
I'm in the process of legally changing
my first name to Islam. Um, and I had a
um I had a friend come up to me and say,
you know, now that you're a Muslim, uh,
do you identify as black? And I was
like, like you just said yourself, Islam
is all different races and ethnicities
and cultures and stuff. Once you're
Muslim, you're a Muslim and that's it.
But, um, it's it's nice that they ask
questions. Even in rehab, they ask
questions about Islam. And I've got one
friend, um, he's just came in. He he's
suffering from addiction and he used to
be he said he didn't attend um marches
but he used to be EDL sort of views and
he wants to come to the mosque with me
next week so I'm going to take him to
the mosque next week so it's all good
this is I I can't stress for people
watching you got to get this out to
every person that has this hate this
their heart is filled with this
extreme propaganda that's filled their
mind this extremism like we have a a
beautiful example right here what
happens when you come and visit with the
Muslims to the mosque. And I want to
quote I want to I want to share with you
here. We have uh also Tommy we have um
Tommy Robinson being praised by Elon
Musk's father who says that Tommy
Robinson said father says that he was
like Nelson he's like comparing him to
Nelson Mandela at the time he was
considered a criminal at the time if
you'd said to people uh he will be the
president of South Africa one day people
would have thought you had lost your
marbles or something was wrong with you
so it's Nelson, there's a quote that I
want to I don't know if his father knows
about this quote, but it goes into what
we're talking about where Nelson
Mandela, who Elon Musk's father is
comparing Tommy Robbins to, this is like
just
incredible. It's Nelson Mandela said
that no one is born hating another
person because of the color of their
skin or his background or his religion.
People must learn to hate. And if they
can learn to hate, they can be taught to
love. For love comes more naturally to
the human heart. Then it's opposite.
What do you think about that? I totally
agree with Nelson Mandela. Um, but I
don't know how we can link Nelson
Mandela with Tommy Robson. That battles
my head. I've got no idea. Sorry. I
can't help you with that.
That is crazy.
Yeah. So you did something that was
probably unimaginable for Elon Musk, for
Tommy Robinson and the like. You didn't
become a Pakistani. You didn't become an
Arab like we just talked about. But you
took your shahada. And this is something
we invite Elon Musk to do, Tommy
Robinson to do. Everyone, everyone can
change their ways and go from be a hater
to someone who's connected with the one
God. And the shahada is what if you were
living during the time of Jesus, you
would have took you would have taken
living during the time of Moses, you
would have taken. It's testifying what's
in your your innate nature that FRA that
I bear witness that there's nothing
worthy of worship except the creator of
the heavens and earth. In Arabic, Allah
in Aramaic, Allah, the language Jesus
spoke. And if you're living during the
time of Jesus, you would say Jesus is
the messenger of God. During the time of
Moses, Moses is the messenger of God.
But now it's Muhammad peace be upon them
all who's the final messenger sent to
mankind and you took your shahada. Talk
to us about that moment. What made what
convinced you finally to step forward
and be courageous enough to to take your
shahada and accept Islam? I learned
about obviously visiting the mosque and
stuff and I I thought okay my views were
not as radical radical there. I was more
relaxed.
Um I didn't feel as much hatred towards
him for no reason. And then the more I
went, I thought, you know, this is
ridiculous as hatred. I'm holding on to
this. Um, but I never actually committed
to being a Muslim. It was just like I
knew that information. I thought, okay,
then. So during this time, my drug
addiction got worse and worse. I had no
God. I was spiritually lost basically
and I was spiritually sick. Um, and like
I say, I was repeatedly locked up. And
then when I went in the cells and I
thought, you know what, I can't keep
doing this. This is just a wasted life.
Um and how two point sorry how many
billions of Muslims in the world it's
the fastest growing religion in the
world you know two billion Muslims two
billion yeah two billion Muslims and I
thought this yeah you know I can't keep
living like this I thought I need a
complete revamp I need to change my life
for the better and of course when I was
in the cell and I prayed the Islamic way
and it worked and ever since I've prayed
it's it's worked and worked I thought
you know what rather than just do little
bits get out of jail and then just go
back to my old ways I need to stick at
this. I need to I need to submit to
Allah. So I thought, yeah, I'm going to
do it. And so
January with in front of the email, I'm
going to the mosque and stuff and and I
said it was, you know, when you stand
there and maybe I don't know, say you
get tingles in the back of your back of
your neck, your hairs on the back of
your neck stand up. And I recited the ch
and I had the tingles in the back of me
head but it went right down me back and
I was like oh I just felt amazing after
you know and and we hugged and stuff and
we prayed and I've just
gone spiritually I just I keep rising up
every time I pray I feel like I'm
getting closer to God. Um it's the best
decision I've ever made. I don't ever
regret becoming a Muslim. Not one bit.
Um my family's very supportive. H I've
got loads of Muslim friends now. The
shahada I'd recommend to anyone if they
want to change their life for the
better. Definitely do it. I' definitely
recommend it. Islam Jackson. Islam
Jackson. I'd like to congratulate you
again and hopefully this can inspire
people like Elon Musk. Hopefully the
Tommy Robinson lovers and others to
really look into Islam
truly from the Muslim perspective, not
from the sources of Islam. get to to
know us not from the hatefilled rhetoric
that you've heard from the fake news and
the people who are causing this division
between humanity and humans, but visit a
mosque. Come have some tea, have some
lunch, dinner, you'll be welcome like
this young man was. And then ask your
tough questions. Let's sit. Let's
dialogue. Let's talk. And let's see,
let's see what happens from there. And
you're a great example of that, of
courage coming to sit with Muslims and
and you see what happens from there.
Amazing. Alhamdulillah. Alhamdulillah.
May God
alhamdulillah. That's like uh for
Christians that's like hallelujah.
Praising God the most high. So may Allah
continue to bless you, preserve you.
Thank you for your time. Thank you.
Thank you. Salaala. Go to the
deanshow.com. will get you a free copy
of the Quran.