two billion people today follow this
Idol named JC those people who are
promoting it like solsman like Ben
Shapiro they have blood on your hands
you're you're actually a Massad
agent Jew is tolerated in Islamic lands
as long as he has the status of a demi
don't you dare ever criticize Islam Ben
Shiro's uh documented saying enemies
civilian casualties okay by me perfect
like gaslighting it's like it's that's
exact definition of gaslighting all
whole history of Europe is Christians
attacking Jews not Muslims attacking not
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for my next guest Dr Shadi Salam
Alum love
you when I was ready to talk about it I
would only talk to I was explaining how
much respect I have for the Fai of
Islam
the the D
show thank you for having me how are you
doing very good very good uh so for the
um audience that's not familiar with you
can you tell us a little bit about
yourself well um uh Egyptian background
uh but New Jersey born and raised um
spent 10 years outside of New Jersey
trying to study the dean and Sh both
with SH and also uh in an academic
setting I much preferred uh studying
privately with uh Scholars uh than in
the academic setting and I spent a total
of 10 years outside of New Jersey
between that and then
teaching uh at different universities
until I decided I want to go uh into the
daos spere um outside the academic
setting where we can openly be Muslim
and practice our Dean and call to it and
so uh I came back to New Jersey joined
the New Brunswick Islamic Center and
started a type of learning uh Hub or
Institute called Safina Society uh and
you can learn about it at safety.org and
we have online classes we have a live
stream and now we have a soup kitchen so
all that in conjunction with the Masjid
has provided for the community a lot of
different things to do um so I'm very
happy with our community and uh it's so
important you know to to be part of a
community in this day and
age I want to get your reaction to a
certain um who's considered an academic
an
intellectual I don't know if you ever
heard of God sad I heard the name never
watched this stuff but I heard the
name he's uh from Jewish background I
believe do you have something against
Jews no as a Muslim cleric nothing and
inherently against did your schooling as
you were coming up because you've
studied in many different places does it
did it teach you in
in your religion but it's our religion
to hate to Hate to be anti-semitic well
why don't why don't you look at like
this does a slam allow a man to marry a
Jew Jewish woman that's a good point so
he's got to love her how you going to
how you going to hate someone you can
marry and how about this they going to
have Muslim kids right they're going to
have kids that kids will be Muslim right
he's going to hate his mom right uh that
woman is going to be in the community
she's going to have sister-in-laws she's
going to have a mother-in-law you're
going to hate your daughter-in-law
you're going to hate your sister-in-law
doesn't work like this like just by um
luck of the draw of how you're born it's
by how you're
treated uh these are important points
that people really don't think about
there's this individual and he's uh he's
been on the Joe Rogan podcast he's been
around and many people are taking to
many of the things that you said I he
started popping up in my timeline does
that ever happen to you in yeah he he
started popping up in my timeline too he
okay yeah and he was being attacked
apparently so I but I didn't get the
whole picture I didn't see the whole you
know the these uh public figures are
almost like their own little reality TV
shows in themselves and they have their
own Rivals and enemies and uh so I
didn't I didn't uh ever get into that
but why don't you tell me a bit about
him and what he said yeah so he was
popping up in my timeline I seen him
before and Joe Rogan back a few years
back he was bringing on people like this
and he really had this U different view
from now I think he's changed a lot I
don't know if you know if you've heard
of Joe Rogan he's changed a lot we've
academically we brought on some imams
and others who would kind of critique
some of the things his guests were
saying and we were Point by point just
go ahead and the blunders that the
guests were making some of the
purposeful statements that are out of
cont we just academically Point by point
we uh responded to me many of these
things and then he was one of those
guests so that kind of time passed
forgot about him but then he started
popping up in my timeline and I would
see like I was like hold on what's he
doing and it seemed like he in a
sophisticated way he's bringing up
things and he's planting seeds of hate
he's like planting seeds of hate he he's
it seems like and I'll let you judge for
yourself he's trying to put seem like
Muslims are really after Jews Like
Muslims are really hate Jews he talks
about his his
experience his experiences growing up in
Lebanon or something so I'm going to
play this clip okay and then see how you
would respond to some some of this the
Palestinian Israel conflict has nothing
to do with land it's an existential
battle Palestinians are always the noble
victims the anti-Semitism on campus
that's the anti-Semitism that simply
comes from faulty education the
anti-Semitism that comes from the Middle
East is inherent to the doctrines of
that Faith the Jew is tolerated in
Islamic lands as long as he has the
status of AI don't you dare ever
criticize Islam that's islamophobic and
any land that has ever been occupied by
Islam could never revert to anybody else
so if you have diabetes it's the Jew who
caused it if your wife cheated on you
it's the Jew who put those thoughts in
her head right so if he's saying so you
familiar does it ring a bell now yeah I
mean I've seen his face before I didn't
know that this was his position um but
and I've invited him on I invited him on
to speak to people like yourself I said
come on you know you keep popping on my
timeline come and talk with us come and
talk I want to give the benit at a doubt
maybe he's I very misinformed I mean if
this was the case what about the last
thousand years I guess we weren't
practicing this our four fathers weren't
practicing Islam properly mhm because
Jews have been living in Egypt for a
long time yeah in Palestine Jerusalem in
all those areas
Nazareth uh uh in Morocco in Iraq aish
is an
Iraqi Jew who that aish yes he's a Iraqi
historian uhhuh and his whole history
was that the Iraqi Jews refused to leave
Iraq to go to Israel they didn't want to
migrate Iraqi Jews refused yeah they
didn't want to migrate they were happy
in Iraq uhhuh what he discovered and of
course he had to take it back and he he
walked it all back but he was Persona n
grada in Israel for a while because of
this he went and he discovered that
mosad agents blew up synagogues you're
you're actually a mad
agent yes blamed it on Arabs dressed up
as Arabs dressed up as Arabs is this
conspiracy theory hist this is history
this is history he became Persona NR in
Israel because of this and he had to say
oh I may have misread things and I have
whatever but look up the history of aish
is that he's an Iraqi Jew who discovered
that the Iraqi Jews did not want to
leave Iraq to move down to Israel Israel
wanted them right so the mosad then blew
up synagogues blames it on the Arabs and
say You're Not Safe come over right so
if the inherent law of Islam is that we
must hate Jews show me one verse that
says that that you must hate them no the
Quran will tell us what they've done
wrong so we don't imitate it so we don't
fall in the same trap M the same mistake
it's saying essentially the first this
first nation they made mistakes the
Christians they made these mistakes you
don't make these mistakes okay this is
the message of the Quran when the Quran
looks and says and tells you what
they've done and what they did to Moses
that wasn't right or Jesus that wasn't
right is so that you Muslim don't do
that with your law with your Prophet but
show us a verse that says go hate them
all it's childish it's like this is the
stuff that uneducated person is going to
swallow and believe right where we just
said earlier uh does not does doesn't a
Muslim Sharia allow a Muslim to marry a
Jew yes
how then he's going to marry someone
that he hates and produce a child from
her who is a Muslim is he supposed to
hate his
mom or the rules of the mother still
apply so the rules of the mother is the
mother is the top the one that you owe
your loyalty to that you owe your
goodness to in Islam whether Jewish or
Christian if you did like a Jordan
Peterson you went into psyche and stuff
I mean you got some experience uh
dealing with people and H how would you
reading people how would you read so why
what's he is this is he doing this
because he just hates and he's
projecting his hate is he doing it
because he's getting paid why would
someone who's an an academic an
intellectual he he should know this
history you're talking about is he
projecting that seems to me maybe what
it is is uh and is trying to find
himself some uh way around the reality
the reality is that you your people that
you support have inflamed these
Palestinians by oppressing them
generation after generation so there's a
1948 then there's 1968 or 69 and 67
sorry and there are many other Wars
afterwards and he said it's nothing
about the land nothing about the land
then what about the Muslim the Jews that
lived everywhere else Palestinian groups
leaders military groups saying we have
nothing against Jews we tolerate Jews we
lived with Jews thousands of years
together 300,000 people left Spain where
did they live to China Japan Australia
no they left to Turkey they left to
Algeria Tunisia Morocco Albania in the
second world war it was a small Muslim
country and they had few thousand Jews
there nazzi Germany has occupied Albania
but n single Jew was killed in Albania
you know where the Muslims were hiding
the Jews they were hiding them in mosks
in basements in in in in all types of
places and they saved all these 5,000
Jews in Albania we're going to live
together as the same as it was
everywhere as the same as Jews Liv in
Turkey Algeria Morocco in Iran till now
peacefully with hermany without any
problems in in Islamic country how about
in Turkey there were Jews Bosnia in BOS
to this day you had Jews who fled and
they flourished there in Bosnia Albania
the Bessa you heard of the Bessa that's
Islamic concept you know uh honoring
your guests taking care of you know
giving your word and they wasn't even in
France they were forging documents for
Jews particularly for the Nazis in
France we have there's documentation
that Muslim but in Jews let me ask you
this question if a group hates another
group the simplest silliest most
reductionist way of going about it is
say he hates me because of who I am mhm
right even America they sto saying Arabs
Muslims hate us for our freedoms right
when they used to say after 911 yeah you
remember that it's like you are going to
the laziest of possible Trope Poss
reduction of the matter to something
that's not believable as easily you can
find evidence against
maybe they're hating you because of
something you did to their fathers mhm
and has become transmitted now these
that nation that people they took our
homes they took this don't you think
people talk at the dinner table right
about what happened to whom like we
we're sitting in family and night in our
Masid and a man casually picks up his
phone and he says look at this we went
last summer and we found our
grandparents home and our grandparents
lived here and they were kicked out they
had to flee
on the
spot in one of these documentaries they
tell us that the Jewish uh uh the the
hagana soldier in his old age he says we
walked in the house we found nobody in
the house but the coffee the steam was
coming out of the
coffee that means people were just
living here this morning they woke up
wow and because of this
nakba they saw that were coming they
fled they didn't even pick up anything
right the hum PE a family was living
here this morning morning the the steam
was still coming out of the coffee and
they ran so these terrible Deeds that
were done are they just going to be
backspaced deleted forgotten and you're
going to now say it's not because of the
deed it's because of my identity no you
could so racism is bad right so that
mean what a flip and manipulation
complete manipulation so racism is bad
we all know that because it in in
anything that you're born with no one
can hate you for something that you're
born with no one can be against you just
some it's unfair so racism is bad does
that mean there's never going to be a
conflict between a white man and a black
man that is not a valid conflict right
so black will does that mean that uh the
black man will never ever do anything
wrong again of course he's going to
commit crimes he's going to do wrong
things whites will commit crimes do
wrong things it may be they happen to be
white happen to be black right
incidentally he's black so there's the
incidentally part of things but there's
the action that the person did that is
likely the reason for
hatred I mean if anyone with some kind
of I mean he he's got the U enough
degrees let me ask you this um the khi
Arabs the gulf Arabs are very much open
to trade and business and good relations
with Israel right they're proor they
were up to now up to almost normalized
completely right so is there something
in different about the religion of the
gulf Arab and the Palestinian yeah how
about when Anar Sadat went and made
peace Egyptian across the uh uh the ne
next country over is there anything
inherently different between the
Palestinian and the Egyptian in his
religion that one made peace and one
doesn't the Egyptian yeah the difference
was the Egyptian wasn't aggressed upon
and abused and his family home taken and
his land taken that's why it was easy
for them to make peace he he he gives
some uh some stories of growing up as a
kid they couldn't wear the Star of David
and everything was blamed on the Jews it
was an atmosphere of hate in Lebanon is
there something going on in lemonon
specifically there that would have him
and this is he's just talking about he's
narrating uh his own experiences and it
sounds a lot like um and this is going
to come off badly on some people but I'm
just asking a question all history of
Israel begins with the pograms the
pograms and the Holocaust and before the
Holocaust right Russians killing Jews
hungarians killing Jews Germans
attacking Jews all these Nation
attacking Jews right um it these nations
didn't all know each other they didn't
all plot this they didn't all plan it
but it happened that the all whole
history of Europe is Christians
attacking Jews not Muslims attacking Jew
not Muslims attacking Jews Christians
attacking Jews the history of the origin
of Israel begins there and then Theodore
Herzel came said we need a country for
ourselves and the rest is history right
but instead of just saying like the
premise here is that the
Christians were hating Jews for being
Jews not any other reason I'm saying why
do I need to swallow that
premise why couldn't there actually have
been a Justified conflict between the
two and then one went to excess right
like we can't doubt that the Christians
went to excess in their attacks on Jews
uh kicked them out killed them all MH
Etc but just because one side went to an
excess does not mean the other side also
didn't contribute to the fight a little
bit right so there could be blame on
both sides and then one side went to
excess in their hatred and their anger
so not so I know this is like in the W
culture this is is a crazy idea but it's
actually very simply factually accurate
not everyone who is a victim is 100%
blame free right so if I come here I'm
your guest and I
start you know uh acting crazy and
knocking stuff over MH I'm wrong like I
knock over this camera and it's a I
don't know how many, camera now you're a
jiu-jitsu fighter your son's a jiu-jitsu
fighter and you send me to the hospital
right who looks bad you do right yeah
but I'm also not blame free right so
just because one one side is severely
beaten down does not mean there's no
instigation here and that's all I'm
saying is that when someone like Gad
comes and say in Lebanon they did this
to us rewind the tape rewind the tape
and ask yourself what did you do to them
this is
narcissism okay uh what did I kid comes
from school nobody likes me in school
okay let's rewind the tape what did you
do to them right and we are in a culture
in Islam
all all C our culture comes summarized
in the
Quran the woman who seduced Prophet
Yousef when she comes
clean she said I'm the one who did it
and I will not make excuses for myself
because the ego commands to evil our
culture in Islam anyone who has a
successful relationship as a marriage
and a business and anything in life
takes responsibility take responsibility
oh they hate me I our mentality is if
somebody doesn't like you okay go check
if that person has issues with everybody
else if that person has issues with 30
other people don't worry about it he's
got the issues if that person gets along
with everybody but they hate you you
probably did something that's my
mentality that's how I raise my kids and
how my mentality with myself if I come
out have an issue with a person and I
find that person is has issues with
everybody I said hey man so and so me
and him got an issue he oh me too oh
guess who else him too I said okay I'm
I'm good he's the one with the issue
he's an argumentative person but if I
find everyone says him he's a great guy
and I go to the next ver he you have a
fight with him he's a great guy then I
know I did something wrong MH even if I
didn't do something wrong it was a
mistake the approach you should take to
a relationship is I'm G to put my ego
down hey what did I do wrong if I did
anything wrong I apologize
not this narcissistic view that you who
don't like me because I'm me because I'm
an Egyptian oh you don't like me because
uh I'm Brown because I'm tan because I'm
Muslim no because I'm from Jersey
no that's not how it works relationships
and anyone who's narcissistic like that
his marriage won't
work his businesses won't work nothing
is going to work my intention with even
bringing up a person like uh sad God and
what Gad uh bringing it up is not to uh
smash the guy yeah but to talk with him
and reason with him and even invite him
to talk with us I wonder if he has any
Muslim friends you know to go ahead or
or to come out and
discuss um some of these issues and
there might be some because Islam is
perfect we say this is from the creator
of the heavens and earth Muslims are
imperfect so a Muslim can make make a
mistake or Muslims right we're not
tribalists uhh our people as the prophet
sallallahu alaihi wasallam said uh he
quoting uh pre-islamic saying yes the
pre-islamic saying was wrong the
pre-islamic saying
was support your brother oppressor or
oppressed yeah so the sahaba knew this
is not right true but the prophet peace
be upon him said it in a
gathering and the sahaba said oh master
of Allah how do we support our brother
if he's the oppressor
right well the first premise here is
that a Muslim can be an oppressor we
could be wrong and the prophet then said
is by stopping him from oppressing so we
recognize a Muslim could be wrong a
Muslim can be uh racist a Muslim can all
those things as an oppressor right he
can
be a hater of Jews in the wrong right
and he could be a hater of some race in
the wrong and our job is to stop him
from that uh the B BS of Brotherhood
aren't broken because a Muslim commits a
sin the bond of Brotherhood is still
there because he's a Muslim but the
responsibility of Brotherhood is to
correct him so could a man like God sad
be totally a victim it's rationally
possible it's rationally possible that
the kids he played with in Lebanon
inherited hatred from their fathers and
their fathers did a blanket statement
we're going to hate all Jews and he
became the victim of that is that
possible 100% it's possible right it's
very possible there's no there nothing
here that's going to promote that um
Muslims are never going to make a
mistake right yeah let's touch upon one
more thing from his interview and it's
interesting these like these
relationships are being started like uh
I I believe this is um Indian
interviewer someone who's uh might be of
the H hit yeah H what is it h
Hut so you have all these strange
alliances happening to kind of gang up
to come after it's uh let's go to this
next clip is always viewed through the
lens of you know until
1948 Jews and Muslims lived in Perpetual
loving peace in that area and then these
really nasty guys from Europe that have
absolutely no link to that land called
Israel absolutely none came along and
then they took over that land stole it
and since they've been engaging in a 75
year genocide now not not a single
syllable of that is true but yet that is
the message that that is promulgated in
on every campus so it wouldn't be
surprising then that if I am a so one
point I want to make about this is that
in the um
war of
ideas uh saying something
outrageous to shift the
debate from Palestinian babies being
killed
he's now trying shifting it now to
everyone hates juice is this perfect
like gaslighting it's like it's that's
the exact definition of gaslighting and
the way to do it is to go so extreme
that it can't you can't ignore it right
yeah and that's exactly what Trump did
in his campaign he's a manipulator of
reality he has no sense of fixed Reality
by going so far off in an extreme an
idea that nobody can ignore right all
these Mexicans are a bunch of rapists
and stuff nobody can ignore it but now
what are we talking about you got
everyone on the defens of now no we're
not rapists no Mexicans are not rapists
right what he by pushing it it's almost
like the Overton window concept which is
that um it's like the law of averages
right when you when when you throw a
discussion way off course the middle now
is changed and that's what I feel that
he's doing uh and now um in the world
that is watching some of the most worst
you know deaths and injuries that are
happened to kids and and Palestinians
and hospitals and everything in that
world that we're living in and we're all
seeing this in 4k he's now coming and
holding himself to be the victim wow
right I mean you just took it way over
here and now you got the conversation
and whoever he pulls into the
conversation no matter what side you're
on he's one cuz he's pulled you away
from the ACT ual discussion that should
be happening so he's got enough degrees
he's got enough educ he knows what he's
doing he's I'm sure he knows what he's
doing and saying some absurd things like
oh my wife cheated on me it's the Jew my
it's reigning it's the Jew so taking it
so far to make somebody say no no no no
no we don't let we don't hate Jews wait
a second that should not be where our
energy is going right now our energy
should be going to the one oppressed the
most which is right now the Palestinian
yeah right and that's this is reframing
the issue by going to a an extreme that
forces you to respond I'm going to go to
the going movement along and again uh if
he accepts our invitation you or anybody
else who uh I'll talk to anybody you're
ready to talk with someone like sad huh
why not okay beautiful sad you see we're
giving you invitation come come to the
table of uh peace and understanding
we're trying to understand you trying to
understand us and that's how we can uh
learn to get along better huh uh so
there's a quote here says uh the
genocidal mentality of a lot of
zionists this is a Ben Shapiro before
the war and you give a um quote where
Ben Shiro is uh documented saying enemy
civilian casualties okay by me yeah and
then it goes on to say you go on to say
doesn't happen because the country makes
it a makes a policy a genocide happens
because all the people want it to happen
enough people want it to happen when you
have a man like Ben shapir
who has a f a big following is one of
the founders of the christian-based
conservative daily wire funded by
Christian and a Zionist all of their
people except for Candace Owens and uh
we commend her for that have been
extremely Pro Zionist Israel
cheerleading having no sense of
condemnation at all for any thing that
Israel does and if you say a single word
this is a little move that will have you
calls
anti-semitic this is you that's me let's
add that let's add to that
salsman lately uh recently I should say
who is that uh politician out of Florida
was asked elected she was elected into
some office or other yeah how many
Palestinians is
enough dead she was asked she was asked
and her answer all of them
right so a genocide doesn't happen uh
because a government says hey let's do
genocide people aren't that stupid right
to put it on paper like that uh a
genocide happens though when it becomes
Millions upon Millions upon millions of
people are totally okay with it they
totally view this the opposition as an
enemy as an animal and they totally view
the one doing it as a necessary
relationship I cannot go without this
relationship whatever ever they want I'm
going to give it to them all right and
we all have situations where sometimes
you are so like leveraged whatever the
person asks you're going to give it to
them because you're that that happens in
life and it happens in politics so it
happens a genocide happens when Millions
upon Millions upon Millions upon
millions of people are accepting of it
go under uh the comment section any time
one of these figures posts something
about the Palestinians like a inan baby
being killed it's insane look at the
comments and the inhumanity of people
right oh they probably put the baby up
uh uh put her in the line of fire right
oh they they they put their offices
underneath the hospital on purpose oh
these are alligator tears okay when
there's like blood flowing down her
face people lost their humanity and when
I click I click on the profiles to see
to get myself a micro image of who's
saying this when I click on the profile
you know what I find I find a regular
woman in Middle America somewhere the
rest of her tweets are like I baked a I
baked a pie we're going to Thanksgiving
we're going to watch a football game
blah blah blah my daughter's a
cheerleading today a regular human being
who has be her uh church or what have
you has steered her into being having
the gal
to make a comment like that under a
child that just got killed right that to
me is a big sign that this genocidal
mentality has spread far and wide right
and those people who are promoting it
like solsman like Ben Shapiro they have
blood on your hands everything that you
do that you post you're responsible for
right and if a million if it takes a 10
million people to commit a crime
right as as as ghastly and as big as a
genocide that we're seeing and probably
we haven't seen the end of it every
single one of them has some of that
blood on their hands for supporting it
right and in some cases maybe even not
speaking out against
it I want to get into uh we'll call it
the strange relationships M and we're
seeing this uh with God's side you have
this and others who are bringing on some
of these um extreme hindutva and they're
combining with them have you seen this
also yep yeah it's it's interesting you
right and then you see right now what's
happening I believe it's like 80% if I'm
not wrong 78% of zionists are actually
Christian so I want to get into I
interviewed a pastor a Christian Pastor
who kind of unpackage this for me and
then you can tell me I'm just for the
audience um I'll go through this real
quickly uh what said is that for the
first 1,800 years of history that
Christians had no concept of this
pre-tribulation this Rapture mhm uh that
became came that's prevalent today and
the first phase you had this not John
Nelson Darby in the 1830s he went out
and he got all of these strange extreme
teachings put them together and then in
the second phase you had a con man by
the name of uh Cyrus scoffield who was
um a con man he went to jail came out
never went to Seminary school or um
Christian theology school or any of
these things but he ended up getting his
DD doct Divinity he meets a man who is
connected to uh or knew uh John N and
Darby he taught him these teachings of
of um many of these the Rapture and
things that are connected to what we
have modern day that's connecting it to
um state of u the Z State what happens
then is this U person scoffield he he
ends up um meeting a person who invites
him to this Lotus Club this Lotus Club
is a high-end club uh and the person
that invites him invites him he's an
he's a a American attorney not he's an
attorney or vice pres vice president or
or president of a of a huge American
Zionist organization anyways they
connect he takes him to the UK and then
they fund they fund they connect he
connects him with the Oxford printing
press uh Oxford publishing company and
they push out a million
copies of the scoffield Bible and in the
footnotes it has many of the exegeses
you know the interpretation of certain
verses you know how it is same
if you know Rober Bobby Spencer he has
his own C so can imagine if you're
reading his interpretation is where it's
going to take you yeah even though it's
it's it's it's it's something that's um
uh of his own whs and desires so this
person he puts uh he puts these
interpretations into the Scofield in the
footnotes and then this kicks off kicks
off kicks off there's uh the late great
planet Earth sold 40 million copies it
was another series that sold like 80
million copies and one example of this
that the pastor tells me and many of
these things are not biblical they
weren't known for the first 1800 years
of Christianity so wrapping up there's
one example is that Jesus coming back
twice and Jesus will remove the
Christians take them to Heaven there'll
be seven years of tribulation then
Christ will attack then the Antichrist
will attack the the Jews in Israel and
then Jesus will come back and save the
Jews the Zion
and this is pretty much the pastors
telling me and you have people like
James White and others who are also
exposing this because they're saying
this is a Zionist doctrine that took
over the churches of America until this
day yeah what do you say about that uh
that's the result of a religious
movement that doesn't have a tradition
um it's very easy to sneak in an idea
that has no precedent and the nature of
the difference between Catholicism and
protestantism is that Catholicism has a
tradition MH like you can't just pop in
let me open a Catholic church and
interpret verses yeah and interpret the
scripture you you need to have studied
with that tradition and take it on so
that you don't bring some crazy new idea
protestantism is not like that
protestantism is a rebellion against
that tradition anyone can open the
scripture yourself and open your own
church and preach as you wish that kind
of tradition is right for Innovations
right where someone could put something
in and spread it far and wide and that's
exactly what happened with the scoffield
Bible which is now everyone not getting
educated on what this Bible is because
that's the source of Evangelical Zionism
which is the concept that if we build
the kingdom we bring back Israel as a
kingdom as a nation then Christ will
come
back in Truth uh according to many
pastors and and and and and in Christian
theology what Jesus meant was a kingdom
in your soul right Jesus says mine is
the Kingdom of Heaven not of the earth
mhm so the truth of of that Kingdom
according to their own scriptures is
that it is a spiritual Kingdom not a
kingdom made here so neither does it
have a basis in Jewish scripture as in
in Judaism only the Messiah can bring
back the Holy Land nor is it any basis
in Christian scripture because in
Christian scripture what Jesus came back
for or what Jesus called his kingdom
that he commanded his people to build
and when you build it I come back is the
kingdom in your hearts a place for God
in your heart and in your soul not a
physical land of uh with borders and and
made of brick and mortar M so it's the
the the the tradition Rebellion or
rejection of tradition of protestantism
that allowed for this scofi bab which
let's trace the money according to most
records it's Undisputed that the Ross
Childs are the one who pray paid for it
wow right this massive Zionist family
who has now their wealth is in the
trillions and who are one of the biggest
bank rollers of Israel like don't people
put two and two together they're the
biggest bank rollers of the state of
Israel they have supported it with so
much money and they're the same people
who supported the spread of this
scoffield Bible right I mean they know
the numbers they know help people
understand this so for the Layman
because most uh Christians they just
follow this they've been fed this but
now this is showing this is another lie
this is a con man part of Christian so
you can interpret a certain verse just
like islamically you then we have
Prophet Muhammad who's interpreted then
you have his companions who are
interpreted then you have the scholars
and whatnot here you have a con artist
yeah he went and in the footnotes
they're taking this John Nelson Derby
and whatever other ideas and they're
connecting this to the modern Zionist
state right now correct so now
Christians feel it's a part of their
Creed they're sinful while they're
seeing babies being blown up and instead
of you know showing mercy and love and
compassion and standing up and be a
voice for True Justice peace they feel
now now they're sinful this is part of
my Creed I have to support and force
force prophecies that are fake I was in
Texas all the churches there were more
stars of David on the churches and their
huge Billboards mega churches down the
highways of Houston
more stars of David than crosses and
more support of Israel than mention of
Jesus and it all originates from this
concept from this con man crook who
interpolated it into their religion and
that's why in Islam we have a grave
warning of who you take your religion
from and Innovation and chains of
transmission the chain of transmission
where did you get this from right well
if you break that chain of transmission
and say no anyone can interpret as they
wish because you can interpret As You
Wish write it down form a church and
convince others of it doesn't make it
true right and that's the thing about
some people have a lawyer mentality if I
can argue it and convince people it must
be true that's not the case at all right
truth is fixed truth there is a right
and wrong to most things right and in
the concept of the kingdom of Christ it
is a kingdom of the hearts in
Christianity I'm not saying it's that's
in reality or not cu in Islam we don't
have that right but in
Christianity the kingdom that Jesus is
talking about is not the land of Israel
it is a kingdom of mercy and
spirituality in your own self MH right
and that's what he was talking so it's a
metaphorical Kingdom yeah uh and it's
been then that those verses have been
used now to intend that it means
Israel and now you can see why there
this such a strange strange relationship
I was asking the pastor
and he was the one that was actually
bringing this light to me he was
explaining it um Pastor Rick and the
people watch the program that I did with
him and I asked him I said look do you
get offended when I say Jesus peace be
upon him he saids no Eddie no I mean you
know that we love Jesus we love Jes we
love his blessed mother again I said
let's get the elephant out of the room I
told them you know we don't believe he's
the literal Son of God that he's now um
God but we love him just like and we
call him what he was called to in the
Bible he was called a servant of God a
prophet of God we confirm this now we
have our our parting of the ways but all
these other things there's so many
things we do have in common you probably
have more in common with us than maybe
some of your own family members Democrat
Republican this that and the other
you're going to just chew each other up
but over here on the other side I'm want
to play this next clip and that's where
it goes into strange relationships I
want to just listen to this uh this
Rabbi and again this is not with no
vicious this VI this uh attempt to to
we'd love to get along and have peace
with everybody but this is just pointing
out something that is obvious but maybe
not so obvious for some people not
dreams of all kinds
of that had a dream all of
revelation we saw what happened with the
revelation of
Maria 2,000 years of suffering came to
the World Christian Inquisition Spain
Portugal Holocaust PS from a dream of a
prostitute who cheated on her husband
that's it from
that two billion people today follow
this Idol named
ji why one dream a lot of Dreams there's
people that live in illusion even when
they're awake not when they sleep when
they awake there so he's from Queens and
what he talk he's talking about dreams
you talking about Paul and the way he's
he was talking about in that video that
different rabbis have been having
different dreams about the Messiah
coming as a result of this war or it's
not even a war at this point because
there's only one side being smashed to
bits so he was saying oh some rabbis
said MOS is coming Messiah some rabbis
said this some so he said they all have
dreams of this right and he's saying our
religion is not based on dreams right
our religion is based on scripture
and then he said he went off on this
tangent he said look where dreams got us
okay the dream of Maria the Virgin Mary
yes and then he goes on and calls her
what he calls her that a Muslim even uh
wouldn't even accept to repeat it point
being is that you get this uh like a
sting it's like you know you know what
I'm talking and and they laughed the
audience laughed now when I uh say
something like this some inevitably a
rabbi will come and say no no no no he's
not the right belief
listen it is a fact you cannot bend
around and play games that they don't
believe Jesus to be a born purely born
child from a man from a husband and a
wife you can't get around this at the
very bare minimum he's a
bastard from saying this stuff but just
to
clarify ask any Rabbi the one who wants
to do the most gymnastics
and try to make amends with the
Christians no no no we don't say we
didn't try to kill him we didn't rat him
out to the fine okay what's his origin
is he a son of marriage because in that
case he should be Jesus Son of soand so
so and so should be known marriage as in
Islam in Christianity and Judaism is a
public contract there's no secret
marriages it's a public contract so we
know whose child is who mhm if I see a
baby walking around I should know who
takes care of him
because there is a child result of this
relationship we all have to know the
whole society Community needs to know
who's married to who right and whose kid
is whose because there's a financial
relationship unlike friendship there's
no no child's going to be born out of a
friendship so we don't need to know
right so Jesus Son of whom right at the
very least the belief about him is is
very
bad which again poses the question of EV
Evangelical
I I don't understand how are you
thinking that like how are you thinking
that the establishment of more people
who believe in that and strengthening
the nation that propagates this about
your
God like do you put two and two together
or you just use emotions that that's the
reason and that was my intention there
to point out something that's very
obvious to us and I had a guest on once
a Christian his name is Owen uh and he
was talking about was like wow I was
when I once I got through the
programming and I saw Muslims when they
say Jesus they say peace be upon them
but then we have another group of people
who are actually cursing him his mother
and we just got to hear this live so I
would say like for our Christian friends
neighbors and whatnot I mean look I mean
you're hating the people who who love
Jesus and and then now you're sending
money and supporting those who are
saying the most evil things about and
even for those people who are saying
that let's say for our Jewish
uh friends rabbis or whatnot I say come
sit with us sit with someone like
yourself and explain really who Jesus
was because they got all faulty into tap
uh interpretation thinking that you know
this thing about him being God we would
we would talk about and give the proofs
that he actually was the Messiah and
then maybe they'll switch their way also
the Muslim ends up believing the best
things about the most people yes for
example in the Bible lot Prophet
lot he's a prophet in Islam MH in
Christianity in in Judaism in the Old
Testament he goes astray he's a cfir
you're talking about uh lot lot with his
two daughters with his two daughters
Sodom and gomorra we don't accept this
he's a caffer in the Old Testament we
cannot accept that we come to defend his
honor we defend his honor and and and
and it's important this why you see in
the
Quran okay every story every mention of
the Hebrew prophets there's a reason for
it it's correcting what's false so Allah
says about L we will save him and his
followers whereas in the Bible he's
destroyed with the people of lot in
these same rabinal lectures you can hear
it go look up any rabbinical lecture on
lot he ends up betraying Abraham and
supporting Sodom and Gomorrah and they
say there were three other small cities
that are not mentioned but they five
evil cities not just two say so what
about J Jacob the worst things about
Prophet Y and he is your patriarch my
point being is not we're we have to
correct these things people are looking
for the truth Christians are looking for
the truth if you're looking for the
truth look in Islam how Islam treats all
of these Noble Messengers and Prophets
touch upon that for for a second so this
is something I'm glad you brought this
up because now we would take strong
exception to this and say no this is
something that is a fabrication this is
a slander a li it's not true it's not
true
the truth is this is where they change
the text as God Almighty is saying in
the in the Quran and and I want to also
you know make a call out to the Muslims
that we need to take up the honor of
Jesus and it's no offense to the
Christian world but you ask the most
objectively fair-minded Christian person
you haven't been able to stop the
slandering of Jesus you haven't been
able to stop
it the prophet Muhammad sallallahu
alaihi wasallam is not slandered like
this in Islam there will be severe
consequences whether lawful or unlawful
we support what's lawful by God's law
and by society's law but we can't
control some people in our umah they
will take the law in their own
hands
illegally and they will
severely harm anyone who says anything
about the prophet KN peace be upon him
knowing they're going to face a
consequence okay a law in the land law
of the land and obviously we don't
condone we don't condone it I don't
condone it but I'm warning you just like
you don't walk around certain parts of
Chicago New York New Jersey count your
money at the ATM machine you will get
robbed okay A a terrible thing will
happen to you am I condoning it no same
thing with the prophet expose yourself
to slandering the prophet in an Islamic
environment I'm warning you that people
who break the law will break the law
upon you
right this is one of the reasons
why it's protected from Allah however it
happens the prophet is not slandered
alhamdulillah in our
um no Prophet should be slandered in the
um of Islam Jesus included Europe
including Moses Jesus mes we love them
all one one time a man came and had an
Interfaith dialogue and a rabbi came and
he spoke and he said I have a funny joke
about Moses do you mind the Muslim said
yes mind you can't say those jokes about
it's just a joke it's not just a joke
he's not just a person yes he represents
Allah look at all the creation of Allah
look how big this universe when this
creator of that Universe sends you a
representative how special is he so
Europe America you have not been able to
protect Jesus although you claim to be
Christians right Christian if you're
truly seeking God won't God's people be
the ones who protect His prophets MH
like forget the books forget the
arguments just like look at the on the
ground Jesus is more respected in the
world of Islam than in the world of
Christians wow I mean I want that to
sink in say that part again Jesus and
Mary are more respected respected in the
lands of Islam in the lands of Islam the
lands of by by the Muslims by the
Muslims then they are in the lands of
the Christians wow so forget all the
arguments forget the debates let's just
look at the reality on the ground who's
worshiping God the way Jesus worshiped
God who's even superficially dressing
like Jesus dressed who is honoring Jesus
who is honoring the Virgin Mary more
than anybody else that you cannot a
Muslim Child canot Say Jesus we say say
Isa Prophet Isa peace be upon peace be
upon him if your son walked in my son
walked in and said hey I heard this
saying from Jesus who's Jesus your
friend on the street yeah you're about
to get smacked
it's right you know this in our cultures
even the non-religious people
the non-religious people say what Jesus
you have a friend on the street named
Jesus right
Prophet so they should really think
about this let's look at the Practical
reality who are God's people on the
Earth wouldn't they be the ones most
honoring to God's Representatives
talking about strange relationships now
continuing on I think um the Israeli
reporter they did uh This was um no no
actually it was a Christian Broadcasting
Network and they put a reporter in a
outfit the priest outfit I think in the
first 5 minutes he was getting spit on
recently Israeli Channel 13 reporter
Yosi Ellie went undercover as a priest
for a day dressed in a robe he walked
through the old city with Franciscan
father Alberto in the first five minutes
he was spat at five times by Orthodox
Jewish Israelis in Israel this is in the
yeah in this um in this state yes uh is
this something like if Muslims were in
charge How would how would Christians be
and Jews be treated under
the Muslim rule I mean you've seen this
with the spitting on yeah I saw those
kids spitting on the uh on the person
dressed as in in a Garb of a priest kids
adults yeah well why don't we look at
this we earlier in the program we talked
about the marriage yes so a husband
would be
obligated to have a room where his wife
can do her Jewish or Christian worship
have her books uh
and he would be obligated to facilitate
that she goes to her church right and
she goes to her synagogue now what so
see it's not all lovey doy either there
are limits what she cannot do she she's
not going to promulgate this to the kids
or publicize it in the house you have a
room to do it in right why because while
we have respect and tolerance to a
degree also we do believe in truth and
falsehood so we're not allowed to
promulgate falsehood but as a exception
for you because of the attribution of
Abraham and Jesus and in hope that we
can absorb you into our families in a
hope that you could see how Muslims live
and enter Islam so we will have this
accommodation we don't give this
accommodation to pagans yes there's no
marriage between Muslims and pagans okay
if that's what happens in the microcosm
of the Islamic home the same happens in
the nation of Muslims the country of
Muslims we say Christians where are your
churches boom boom boom here are your
churches now listen you're not building
anymore these are your churches you can
go freely no muslim can touch these
churches and an attack right nor have a
protest in front of it nor bother you
nor harass you right so it's uh it's a
balanced approach where we do recognize
and by the way this is not a man-made
law right for us to say it's balanced or
not right it's Allah's law that this is
the truth these group of people should
be given some exceptions and leniency
why because we want them in our lands
why because we want them to see Islam
and to enter Islam that's ultimately the
goal although yeah and and no no finish
what you were saying all although while
we do this there is no nothing stopping
a Muslim from inviting you to Islam
right but you don't harass them you
don't stop them from doing their worship
and Islam for now the not yet Muslim
hearing this you're pretty much calling
them to do what's in the Lord's Prayer
to submit their will to the creator of
heavens and earth not to worship
anything other than the one who Jesus
worshiped this is the most important
thing is submission in Islam and it's
submission not to humans submission to
Allah even when Islam calls for
submission to a human it's only because
God commanded It Like Son you must
submit to your father's commands right
daughter you must submit to your mom and
dad too me I must submit to the king the
government right means we can't go and
start start stealing and say he they're
not Muslim let's just steal let's run
the red lights let's do all this stuff
not allowed all let to do that right
uh in everything that every human
relationship there are superiors and
inferiors but in that lawful
relationship not in essence like nobody
is in essence Superior to anyone else
from The non- Messengers
right there amongst Muslims there's no
Superior or inferior even between Muslim
and non-muslim there is one is Superior
in that he submitted properly the other
if he submits we but we don't know the
Muslim may die outside of Islam and the
Christian may enter Islam so we can't
make a comment on the two individuals
the status though the one who submitted
to God fully and the one who submitted P
only a portion there's a difference so
this is the concept that submission to
God why wouldn't you want to you benefit
why wouldn't you want to submit do you
see how big space is like do you see
look at how vast this universe is how
wealthy is this Creator from in terms of
his creation how much has he given out
why wouldn't you want to submit to this
person if someone said come uh to this
Creator someone said to you listen Elon
mus is coming do everything he says
you're going to do it maybe he's going
to give you a little gift at the end a
check or something like that or a debit
card with $100,000 on it right uh you
submit because we benefit from the
Creator creator doesn't benefit from
us uh one thing um couple more questions
before we conclude uh when we open up
the show with this uh individual God sad
um he was mentioning their subs
servitude being a demi they always push
this term Demi Demi Demi you're just
like at the lowest you know we got the
um legal alien this is like themi worse
than that the themi it means in the your
responsibility that means they're in
your territory that means you have to
take care of them okay
meaning their their property and their
home has to be guarded it's protected
their business has to be protected they
their worship what they do has to be
preserved you you have to allow them to
continue doing that worship there is one
law against them or one thing they
cannot do you can't rule you can't
govern why because you don't believe in
the system of governance right nobody
can say I want to be a president of the
United States although I don't believe
in the Constitution right makes sense
yeah so what is the law the overarching
inspiration of the law and the letter of
the law comes from the Rel religion the
Shar okay can you equate The Ten
Commandments with Shar like the Ten
Commandments like all the Commandments
that God gave that the scholars have
looked upon and agreed upon the meaning
of their words and and and fin just a
caveat so people can you give some other
examples people think Sharia chopping
off amputation of hands it's like it's
like what does it make up one or two% of
everything and the that is of one
chapter okay nine crimes are uh penal
crimes meaning there's physical
punishment nine uh crimes sorry are are
are U physical
punishment and these nine crimes have to
be proven beyond the shadow of a doubt
and let me give you an example uh
adultery and fornication it's not even
the punishment is not actually just
adultery and fornication I'll tell you
why because what it is is actually
public destruction of morals or
destruction of the public morality why
because four people have to witness not
cuddling not no penetration trustworthy
individuals trustworthy individuals have
to Wi now what does that tell you so
Johnny Knuckles he wouldn't qualify you
not going to qualify okay right why is
that because if you do that you're
clearly almost trying to be seen mhm
you're destroying the society now any
child walks by and sees this right
you're destroying the society so this is
like action pant pork on the street on
the bench yes seeing it exactly like you
are doing this in the plain sight of
four people they saw the penetration so
it's almost like it's a strong deterent
but it's very impossible almost it's
very very difficult Islamic history what
do we have oh you can probably count it
reason being is that anyone who wants to
just fornicate it's a sin between him
and God but if he covers himself the
state can't how would we know yeah how
would we know you did it we don't know
you did it m so uh even if two people
came not enough right the four so these
things are DET are are it's not just the
crime it's also the social implication
of the crime mhm so what else in the
Sharia that I think a lot of people
would like the taxation
laws like taxation is very difficult to
justify in the Sharia to take people's
money people would love this if you gave
them a choice A or B this way God's way
or the system way all the Republicans
would love this part of it right they
they would love the would love this part
but not all the other uh some of the
other rules uh on capitalism would be
they wouldn't like the interest right
the interest also but that's if you go
to the Bible it's forbidden El from the
Bible too and also the nature of
competition MH so the way that Walmart
Amazon will gobble up and destroy the
competition is actually forbidden Islam
it's forbidden Islam let's say if I have
if you have a shop and I have a shop and
I want to do good to people I don't need
the money that much
I'm going to lower the prices so much
that the people are going to benefit
they're going to love it they're going
to get all of their household goods
really cheap and I'll give some away too
why the the the the Minister of Finance
why are you doing this right what is it
the SEC or whatever then why are you
doing this hey I want to be a nice guy I
see the people they need pots pans they
need fridges they need I want to give it
people to be happy yeah so hold on a
second not at the expense of your
partner here your your neighbor who's
selling the fridges at the actual price
they should be sold at he's going to go
out of business you're not allowed to do
that not allowed to do it uh so we have
to monitor you have to guard your even
your you're not allowed to Cutthroat
your competition in Islam that's number
one number two
taxation only for the
protection internally and externally and
anything that um is more efficient when
you tax it but you have to itemize it
like Paving the streets taking the
garbage out right it it's clearly better
for society when the government makes
one contract for the whole town and
takes care of instead of I have make a
contract you have to make a contract but
is it anything like the 30 40% not even
it's never going to be close it has to
be itemized yeah right and it's not my
business to pay to and is not lawful for
in Sharia to tax the people a certain
amount of
money and then say we'll deal with it
where it's going to go no I have to know
where it's going cuz it's my money so on
that respect that's also part of Shia
mhm guarding
competition uh in business is part of
Shia all right um personal
property sacred and Shia this is a lot
more than than what they're they they
trying to make out to be uh uh just
what's bloody and vicious yeah and it
takes that first step hopefully uh
people um who are watching now they can
get a better picture a better
perspective you we covered a lot um and
I should corre IR myself vicious in
their eyes mhm because one establishment
of the of of a okay is protection for
everybody else mhm so I'm saying in
their eyes bloody and vicious they
consider they consider that bloody and
vicious what about imprisoning somebody
and depriving a mom from a son a wife
from a husband a son from a dad and you
imprison him and did what he hangs out
with other bad people and learns the
ways right they go worse in jails they
delibery that's like martians came from
out of space and then you uh wanted to
know about um American culture society
and all you talk about is the Pino
culture exactly but here I mean family
charity prayer worshiping God uh being
just being um you got so many positive
things that you can go ahead and list
but they just focus on the The penino
Cone that's why the best thing is for
Muslims just to get to know people and
to chitchat and to talk doesn't always
have to be about serious subjects just
let them see Life as a Muslim because at
the end of the day um the way Muslims
live if they live uprightly should speak
for itself we would need to have any
debates or arguments and in a nutshell
what would you you would summarize Islam
the worship of one and only one God and
being morally upright is that it's
worship of one God and His prophets
Satan knew about God following His
prophets following His prophets honoring
them obeying them uh and obeying the
last one essentially the the last one to
have come the update you always got the
updated Satan knew about God what was
his problem Adam prophethood you got to
get Pro what is our issue with the Jews
with Jews Judaism and Christianity it's
prophethood they have a concept of God
course different concept but it's
prophethood prophit hood is so important
because that's the only way we know how
to to worship God and please him and
benefit from him you can't just make
things up on your own you can't make
things up on your own be fith you need
to follow the updated last prophet and
that's Prophet Muhammad peace and bless
Prophet Muhammad peace and blessed be
and that would that be automatically
include all the preceding prophets Jesus
Moses must automatically automatically
Jewish person cannot I'm taking I accept
Muhammad I don't accept Jesus and Mary
no you have to accept Jesus and Mary
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